Can't believe the content the Hoover Institution produces is free. Thank you so much!

The Hoover Institute does some excellent work. And this example is no exception. Great guests. Well done. Thank you.

@zhoubaidinh403

Жыл бұрын

Always a good laugh with the Three Stooges...

Excellent conversation to listen. Brilliant scholars. Thank you to the people who bring this subject to the public for discussion.

Beautiful conversation! Many good points on Africa.

Always a delight. Thank you, gentlemen!

I absolutely loved the discussion. Thank you so much. (I am almost feeling less crazy now..) The lack of cost-benefit analysis when it comes to the climate change discussion looks, at least, suspicious. On the ‘benefits’ side ‘avoiding catastrophe’ is presented to us. When we hear the word ‘catastrophe’ we get a lot of feelings/ fears, and we stop thinking…

With all the things going on in the world I couldn't wait to hear about climate change!

an intelligent thoughtful and provocative conversation

It is time for GoodFellows to convene an episode on Africa. My sense is that the underlying issue holding that continent back is not one of food insecurity, lack of electricity, nor disease. But rather it is primarily an dearth of sound governance. I would compare it to a broken-down car; it can have its flat tires replaced, it can be repainted, everybody wanting to help can get behind and pushed it down the road a thousand miles in an attempt to get it started, but not until the engine and transmission are rebuilt by a credible mechanic will it ever run on its own.

John Cochrane 👍

Badly needed discussion. Could you imagine if something has erudite as this discussion got the views that the latest UCF fight does? Now that could make the world a better place. God Bless the Hoover Institution and all the good work done there.

Enjoyed the difference in Climate change Agenda being pushed on us and what we have in our tool box to help the poorer countries and their productivity in providing food and healthy changes we as having much to keep them from living continually in poverty. Tired of seeing this when we have so much to give to them Thanks for approaching this subject with better ideas we can grab and go

Bravo gentlemen and screw googles “context” boxes

Thank you for bringing in Bjorn to provide context and facts to an important climate discussion that is usually devoid of actionable information. I appreciate that he suggests items like distribution of 10% more mosquito nets (projected to save 200,000 lives) rather than scaremongering, and suggesting an ambiguous climate tax. It is clear that he is looking for solutions rather than personal power.

a good dose of common sense

@kyuzo9764

Жыл бұрын

Sorely needed!

Neil made a point about not confusing earthquakes with climate change . I’m afraid a lot of the young ones will conflate this .

@MrCarlGW

Жыл бұрын

Even the IPCC says there are no trends in hurricanes, typhoons, tornadoes, floods or droughts attributable to climate change. They also admit their climate models don't work. It's not a developed science. The frantic scare-mongering of politicians and the media does not have a sound foundation.

Neither climate deniers nor climate catastrophizer which I appreciate. Good show.

@sirrathersplendid4825

Жыл бұрын

Don’t worry, there’s also a slur for people in the middle of the road: luke-warmists!

Great stuff!

We need a cost benefit analysis on electric vs petrol cars too, especially in a cold state like Vermont where half the roads are dirt (which turn into mud swamps every spring) and a low, dispersed population. Almost half the people rent and up to half poor. But our progressive officials have signed us all up for the California standards asap. I think this is going to crash a lot of lives and our state economy.

@wheel-man5319

Жыл бұрын

There are places in kalifornikation that are just as rural as you describe, but sackofrottentomatos doesn't acknowledge them or their needs.

@mattcorregan4760

Жыл бұрын

There's a couple of good videos here on KZread that do the cost benefit analysis of electric vs internal combustion cars, one I saw was a Ted talk. I'll try to find them and share the link.

@JohnDoe-uk6si

Жыл бұрын

It will

@outofcompliance1639

Жыл бұрын

Petrol cars are cheaper, more powerful, and more reliable. Period, cost benefit analysis completed.

@Josh-vg2lj

Жыл бұрын

Fellow Vermonter here, agree! and the (un)"affordable heat act" is giving me a bad feeling about my bank account down the road.

Need an SBV episode. I’m sure the impacts will be more than financial if not handled correctly.

Your talking about saving lives The elites don't want that. Thank you wonderful show!!! Thank you for being upstanding human beings. Too many bad people out there.

56:56 I always love your video editing....so much fun!! 🤣

Miss McMaster

Cali should be happy lots of rain

@wheel-man5319

Жыл бұрын

Not if they can possibly blame it on human activity.... Then it's terrible.

I think the real reason HR couldn't make it is that he still hasn't recovered from the traumatic loss of his Philadelphia Eagles

@petermathieson5692

Жыл бұрын

Re: the costs vs the benefits of gov't 'investments'. Bjorn, a trillion was spent this past decade to no measurable benefit? Why assume the next trillion will produce a trillion plus in benefit?

Love en licht en ❤

Thanks

Much less than a dollar back on the dollar. Exactly Bjorn. It is NOT going to productive uses, but it IS going somewhere. It is feathering some nests. Follow the money.

Interesting conversation, nice ideas…

it's better to learn how to live with global warming rather than trying to fix it, this is too just big to be fixed, and at the same time, not worth fixing. A simple way to live with the warming is to build better communities, so people can support each others in time of crisis

Great presentation.

Great conversation guys..are prices in England's supermarkets up wholly because of Brexit? In Australia, our cost of living has sky-rocketed... Interest rates have had 10 rises over the last 6 months...

very very beautiful 🌹🌹

I need more convincing on free trade. Where I live, a former manufacturing town (and I don't mean sewing shirts - though we did that here 80 years ago), we now have people picking through garbage and living in homeless encampments. When I first moved here 50 years ago this was a vital, prosperous city. Not so much now!

I'm commenting because I'm a core Goodfellows fan. I watch all the episodes, and enjoy them all. That said, this one is missing the mark for me, and certainly not because I'm shocked or offended. Quite the opposite. I think there's been enough of hitting the easy targets: climate alarmism, exaggeration, selective explanations, etc. I appreciate the high tone of the Goodfellows discussions overall, and this one is, quite simply, not at a high tone (rather, a bunch of conservative guys getting together and enjoying a break from intellectual rigour in the echo chamber). What do I mean? I do have an agenda (quite a conservative one, I think.) Though I consider myself an environmentalist, the environmentalists won't talk to me. I view oil & gas companies positively. I think wind and solar are woefully inadequate. I favour small government, invention, basic science and entrepreneurialism in free markets. Technologically, I'm basically, "ponderomotive fusion power or go home." That is, let's aim for the best of all new technologies, if we're aiming for any at new technological ideas at all. Sure, the planet has been much warmer than this, but humans are an ice age species, and ice ages are ecologically more diverse than tropical ones. While you guys are "fiddling," picking away at the low-hanging fruit (dumb environmentalists, and there are plenty of smart ones), we are rapidly losing biodiversity --- and any number of species. I'm not a global warming alarmist. Rather, I'm an ice age advocate. I've found that I waste my time talking to the Greens (I get deleted from their groups), but, honestly, I'm getting no further listening to you. Yes, dumb environmentalists are fomenting specious arguments. Why, then, not take on the more intelligent ones (try Guy McPherson --- whom I disagree with on many points --- but he's coherent)? Who do I look up to? Heinrich Hora is my man (designing a fusion reactor that will keep the planet cool and safe, with no carbon, heat or radiation, at his HB11 Energy laboratory in Australia). I'm sorry. I'm tuning out of this talk until the discussion can be elevated to the customarily high level I expect from this cohort.

Hurricane history is sooo varied, and saharan dust such a factor . . .

WOOO!!! I missed you guys

Bjorn Lomborg - singlehandedly fighting climate change by planting a rain forest in his living room!

Politicians happy to force policies on us to "solve" a problem that doesnt exist than to try to solve REAL problems

@wheel-man5319

Жыл бұрын

Often it's a problem that the politicians created!!

@outofcompliance1639

Жыл бұрын

They can't solve problems because we wouldn't need them any more. In fact, they create more problems for more job security.

And BTW, I hope whatever is bothering Niall Ferguson is solved....he was very glum and reserved this time

I grew up in Los Angeles and when I went to college in Philadelphia in 1988, I remember my parents told me that it snowed one day in LA and they had snow on their lawn. I didn’t get snow in Philadelphia until March 1989. It gets cold here and we do get snow on occasion. Weather varies, it’s normal.

@outofcompliance1639

Жыл бұрын

Born and raised in Los Angeles area too. This year seems the rainiest ever but that is good since we have been in a drought for a couple of decades. It can't be climate change causes drought and rain. Overall the climate has not changed in the 60 years I have been in So. California.

Another scattershot policy conversation. Which politician or political party is most likely to take effective action while minimizing ineffective and wasteful action? I can't implement wise environmental and energy policies, but I can vote for those who might. (Or, I could if I didn't live in Seattle. It's just various hues of blue here, blending into wider and wider stripes of socialist pink.)

No quantification is spot on. Ironic no one is looking into how the money is being spent and what is the benefit

The relationship between climate temperature and CO2 has been known for around thirty years, based on study of ice cores in Antarctica. The cores come from glaciers two miles thick that contain ice up to 500,000 years old. Each year's snowfall for all those years contains tiny bubbles of atmosphere from when the (now) thin ice layer fell as snow. Analyzing the atmospheric bubbles in the lab shows unequivocally that atmospheric temperature increase (from the sun, there being no other possible source) precedes CO2 generation by 800 years on average. Most of the world's CO2 is dissolved in the oceans, and warming of the earth by the sun causes that gas to come out of solution and dissipate into the atmosphere. In clear language: first the earth is warmed by the sun, then CO2 comes out of the oceans. Another overriding factor is that it is widely reported that 99.75% of the annual CO2 production on planet earth comes from natural processes (see paragraph above, then add volcanoes and such), whereas man (breathing, cars, industry, farming, etc.) produces the other 0.25%. In other words, from a CO2 standpoint the earth barely knows we're here; for every pound of CO2 we produce, nature produces 399 pounds. Once these points are taken into account, everyone can relax and refocus on actual problems that we can do something about. There are plenty of those. I wish these three smart guys would focus on such problems instead of chattering about how to deal with climate alarmism, which is merely a ginned up political position.

@adrianjcox8611

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this. it's heartening. I am sadly disappointed that the group are acquiescing to the groupthink nonsense of CO2 climate change.

@JohnDoe-uk6si

Жыл бұрын

Where'd you get your facts?

@brmadden895

Жыл бұрын

The linkage between CO2 (as well as other greenhouse gases) and average temperature was first established by John Tyndall in the 1800s. The fact that warming precedes a CO2 increase in the paleoclimate record doesn't discount carbon dioxide as a climate influencer; it just discounts it as the only climate influencer. The climate system is a complex system of feedback mechanisms. Something triggers a warming trend (e.g. solar output increases, Earth's orbit changes, etc), and as the oceans warm, they release CO2 into the atmosphere which accentuates the warming trend. The same process can also happen in reverse. According to the USGS and NOAA humans emit somewhere between 60-100 more carbon than that of natural sources every year.

@sirrathersplendid4825

Жыл бұрын

Agree with everything you say. However, the recent bout of anomalous weather appears to be causing a new effect: the summer melting of ancient Arctic permafrost releasing vast amounts of methane. As you know methane is a far more efficient greenhouse gas than CO2. Fortunately, it decomposes with a half-life of 8 to 10 years, but who knows what effect it might have over the next few years.

@outofcompliance1639

Жыл бұрын

Ok stop with the true science, you are ruining the scam for money, power, and virtue signaling. There are two scenarios: 1. CO2 drives heat which means the planet burns up due to more heat means more CO2 evaporating from the ocean which means more heat and so on. or 2. CO2 does not drive heat and we have the climate we actually have driven by the sun, the motion of the earth, and perhaps a massive event like an asteroid hit or volcanoes.

I’ve got a feeling the moderator isn’t really enjoying the guests anti-climate change rhetoric. Myself on the other hand. Absolutely love the things that his guests have said.

A lot of climate policies are badly done. Translation: their costs exceed their benefits, i.e., value is destroyed, not added to, i.e., capital is allocated to destructive uses. We're made poorer.

Alarmist need to adopt some "'expotenial smoothing"

The shortages aren't "consequences of Brexit" are they? The Republic of Ireland also had shortages. As far as I know, it's still in the EU.

"How dare you" use that clip!?

Why do we assume rising co2 & rising temp will be all "bad"..co2 helps biodiversity & agriculture, warmer weather with more humidity helps agriculture..cold kills more than hot

@wheel-man5319

Жыл бұрын

Cold weather is bad for plants. Indeed plants love warm weather, that's when they grow! That's why we build greenhouses!

Our measurements of climate are arbitrary and used largely for control and maintaining global dominance.

Whilst the panel is a strong one, I get the impression that there are more climate skeptics on this panel. We need a balanced discussion. Get one or more pro-climate speakers who will provide a balanced discussion.

Planetary & solar physics? Dr John, please, discuss some geophysics properties including obliguity of the ecliptic & irradiance with Solar flux, those influencing meteorology & atmospheric dynamics in measurable methods. With respect to Milankovitch et al, those properties change & interact with greater frequency & influence, vary enough that readily influence hydrosphere & circulation cells at discernable rate & magnitude. I've criticized & considered the atmospheric river model anyway, but as fundamental approach so beware simplification & expectation, as mentioned those properties are influential mechanisms. Although, especially with accessible freshwater among resources, in many ways extracting encroaching altering imposing upon spheres are formidable matters, then there are chaotic socio-economic conditions introduced even thought resolved centuries ago?! Take your chance with surviving all that seemingly overwhelming risk, aberrant conditions, ethics & expected conduct, ... Appreciate recognizing virtuous enforcement with integrity & distinct values! So I respect Bjorn allatime in his prioritization & focus, consider he must explain the introduction with his winter😁then mentions malaria? Is it still rather remote from Sweden with climate inhibitions or potential introduced by undocumented migration? Infnerstructure of self as with infrastructure matters, are paramount, health wellness hygiene sanitation purpose preparation ... Mentioning Africa & demographics, I'd paid attention to Niger River Delta, a region of remarkable population growth that may reflect some of the matters which Dr John had inferred? Thanks for presentating these worthy aspects for reflection & action on health wealth & wellness.

When you show warming has slowed & sea rise minimal they claim "yes but extreme weather is the proof" but extreme weather is actually at a low..so what can they say to that?

No wonder HR wasn't in this one. He would have pulled you back into the middle. I welcome all views but you're leaving it key elements of the conversation. Ex. Ecological impacts of climate change on food supply. How will the world adapt to a lack of ocean borne food?

According to the climate commissars it's not a climate crisis. Its a climate Emergency!!!!!!?

The question that these gentlemen fail to ask is, "how can politicians get kick backs from funding these simple solutions". If you can't sufficiently answer that question why are you asking any questions at all? They seem to not understand the reason for the government is it grant power to the people that deserve it. Not to do anything for the people that put the governments in place. At least that's what the government seems to think.

Carbon emissions might not be a problem in the future, if there comes a new clean energy 😁

If you wish to go down this route. The US military alone emits more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than entire countries such as Portugal, Denmark.

Volcanos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zero carbon ? DUH .. problem is! - I am a carbon based life form.

The hottest year in the last ten was 2016. The global average temps since then have been LOWER, either level or DROPPING. 2022 was the LOWEST of the last 6 years. If rising CO2 is supposed to lead to increased average temperature, IT IS NOT HAPPENING. There is some OTHER FACTOR that is REDUCING GLOBAL TEMPERATURES, which is UNKNOWN, so predictions are NOT RELIABLE. Rather than WASTING OUR RESOURCES on affecting only ONE FACTOR affecting weather, we should concentrate on increasing total energy and material resources so we can adapt to ALL of the events in the next century, which will include things we cannot predict. Pandemics have been MUCH MORE devastating to life and resources than climate change could be. Holding down energy use by Africa in the name of global warming is a racist policy per se, and the consequence of international racism on that scale could have much more negative consequences than climate change.

This is depressing, South African power supply problems are not to do with a lack of investment. It used to have a totally effective grid infrastructure, the best in the continent. Since corruption, nepotism and the racist BEE (black economic empowerment) laws were introduced meaning jobs were given exclusively to blacks over white applicants regardless of their qualifications, know how and experience, the whole system is collapsing. The same with water, sanitation erc.

This is a fascinating and destructive forum. At the same time they recoil against imposing western approaches on poorer countries but force them to accept GMOs because it boosts productivity even if the people oppose it and many experts caution against it.

You guys talking about global warming while it snows in Southern California is a high alert on irony. 😂 It’s easy to dismiss record cold weather but not record warms.

@wheel-man5319

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't fit the narrative...

They always have a way to tie it in ... Global warming is melting glaciers which is reducing the weight on land which causes rebound of the rocks underneath and those changes can trigger earthquakes. So yes, global warming causes earthquakes. :)

take the plunge boys..get steve keen on and go into the economic weaknesses and his William Nordhaus critiique then I will feel informed rather than hearing two debates that don't actually touch at any point.

@stephenarscott1268

Жыл бұрын

the weaknesses of classical economics- I meant to say.

One can just hope that public opinion is shifting towards a more cynical reading of the climate "science".

Massive crop failures, eh? Yeah, caused by hysteria-driven ill-advised policies to limit the use of fertilizers.

I guess will keep talking about the climate until the bombs blow

I hope Bjorn is right. What if he is wrong?

@justinsnelling8053

Жыл бұрын

He is wrong in that he is short term focused (50 years or so) and he relies on Economic Models that are really impossible to feel certain about. When economic modelling is believed to be more robust than scientific models based off simple physics - and treated as being more "respectable" - we have a problem. What could possibly happen to tip the economic forecasts? Oil price shocks? Wars? Collapse of some banking system? Dodgy real estate mortgage lending? Demographics? Acts of terrorism? Flooding of financial centres? New Orleans sinking below the waves?

They were sent lots of mosquito nets and they sold them off as wedding dresses......lol

Facile assumptions here that we know what "growth" and "advancement" are, and that they have almost entirely to do with material wealth. Has the intellectual nightmare that Anglosphere universities have become still not persuaded the lot of you that man does not live by bread alone? How about the, far from merely sentimental, concerns about local cultural traditions going extinct altogether with economic and social disruptions? This would seem a promising mode of attacking climate alarmists' penchant for meddling all over the world, and it's entirely neglected by these men, perhaps because they approve of such meddling as long as it's done for the "right" reasons.

Shouldn't a discussion about climate change include an actual scientist specialised on climate change? The presented economic or political perspectives are surely valid and very interesting, but it all appeared a bit one-sided to me..

Niall was asked about availability of fruits and veg in the UK - then diverted to Africa - then China. Didn’t answer an important question. Rambling.

Tell me you suspect that it is HAARP charging the ionosphere and causing the polar vortex without telling me that you suspect it is HAARP charging the ionosphere and causing the polar vortex.

Climate Change : Winter (snow & ice-it gets cold) Spring (It starts to warm up and there are storms and floods) Summer (it gets hot and there is a lack of rain) Fall (it starst to get cooler & the leaves change color) Winter (snow & ice - it get cold) And that kiddies is climate change. It has been going on for millions of years. 😎

Global Warming my a..s ))

so disappointing to see the goodfellows becoming climate deniers! 🤦‍♂ back in the '90s my city had 3 months of snow in winter often up to your knees but for the last 15 years, we get a few days or no snow at all!! I'm a sailor so I follow the changes in the weather very closely and for example, summers now start a month earlier than they have 2 decades ago. There's no denying it if you have eyes you can see! so we can't talk about climate change because of the mental health of the kids who are going to suffer from it? The arguments made in this episode are terrible!

I respect Mr. Lomborg, but he seems to oversimplify computers and kids' educations. I am a roving special education substitute teacher. When students are given computer time with tutorials, there is almost always a use as a video game that is a few clicks away. Also, if they are to be working on . . .say, level 8 in a math tutorial, they know how to get down to the comfortable level 3 that doesn't demand they grow. I had to correct one student more than three times in the span of about 10 minutes in this respect, and came to realize that computers may well be best more for keeping kids occupied and out of the teacher's much needed time than for actually learning. After all, if a kid is happy playing on the computer, he is not raising cain in the classrom. It is very easy for schools to say how much money the spent on computers for kids, but still puzzle on the endemic poor performance on established metrics.

I am a big fan of this podcast, but this episode I found intellectually underwhelming. How useful can a discussion about climate without an actual climate scientist participating be?

Scaring kids with this CC BS is criminal.

THE NARRATIVE IS FAUX RELIGION.

More volatile weather events are caused by a reductions in global temperatures. Why. Because the difference in temperatures between the earths tropics and its poles directly affects air flows. If the temperature on earth was increasing then data shows that the temperature at the poles will increase at a greater rate than the equator. Thereby reducing the difference in temperature between the poles and the tropics. So if you can examine all this information at the same time then you will understand the stupidity of all this rhetoric. But there again you may not be able to understand, sorry but try shutting your flap trap for a while, it may help.

@brmadden895

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. You also have to take into account that a cooler atmosphere can't hold as much water vapor, which acts as a competing factor. There is a fair amount of research suggesting that a "slowing" of the jet stream will cause it to become wavier and take on more unusual patterns.

@bobpa123

Жыл бұрын

It's not necessary to be rude...!