Just note: All these nerfs aren't final and changes to the nerf are still possible. discord.gg/Hbawugtdds

I’m excited for the bow buffs can’t wait to try them out (I only fight bots)

@StupidestStorm

Жыл бұрын

lets goo!!! respected bow user

@owengeorge4322

Жыл бұрын

Nah nah nah how's getting buffed. My conj build can do if I'm correct 740 damage plus bleed and I'm a conj like that's two much damage lol

@hemandhaid3422

Жыл бұрын

​@@owengeorge4322 let me guess, acid or poison conjurer?

@pillrat

Жыл бұрын

@@hemandhaid3422 nah arrow rain does huge damage, it’s probably like shadow conj or something else with high dmg

@owengeorge4322

Жыл бұрын

@@hemandhaid3422 nope

People who abuse Vindicator vs People who use Vindicator

I remember using vindicator when it only had one ability, the aoe was literally massive than you think. Also shield buff, We block, parry, DODGE.

@atahan1222

Жыл бұрын

Block parry dodge

Genuinely thank you so much for crediting me, your amazing! Also what are the odds? Your video was uploaded on my birthday.

Stormcaller is going to be pretty good if bows get buffed. At the moment, stormcaller only has one saving grace and that is Storm of Arrows. Storm of Arrows hit the target 5 times instead of the default Rain of Arrows’ 3 (which makes it deal like 350 damage if all 5 hit LOL) If Quickdraw gets a buff, all bows will be like 50% more better and they’ll feel more worth using.

@KennyThai-pd9fk

Жыл бұрын

and storm of arrows is so fun and enchant with swift and u got a calvus shredder

@xxnightwolfxx6358

Жыл бұрын

i use that bow as a magma conjur

i like how crystal warlock is still being overlooked :/

@StupidestStorm

Жыл бұрын

in the same balance notes crystal warlock got nerfed, i'm currently working on a video discussing it

And this is why It's good to have profiles for every build. So that your gameplay isn't negatively affected by buffs and nerfs.

I can’t be the only one who didn’t use vindicator purely so that I wouldn’t get affected by its inevitable nerf while other warriors will

Lmao the leaderboards are gonna change so much from these weapon nerfs

Basically, vetex nerfing all weapon builds, while magic ones like WARLOCK its still broken with 700 damage per smash on a crystal iron leg, at this point make pulsar op and turn everyone in mage like WOM

@StupidestStorm

Жыл бұрын

well... techincally they did actually nerf warlock and crystal interactions specifically

@extox102

Жыл бұрын

@@StupidestStorm where did you find this info

@StupidestStorm

Жыл бұрын

@@extox102 found in the Combat Balance doc i linked in description

@Professional_Narcissist

Жыл бұрын

Crystal iron leg is getting heavily nerfed, as well as ice ironleg getting a decent nerf too.

@arandomuseronyt6245

Жыл бұрын

You could’ve at least read the doc before commenting this

The American build is boutta be meta.

I honestly don't see the katana and scimitar changes as nerfs but more as buffs (more range is better because they're basically impossible to miss due to hitscan). Vindicator is gonna be pretty mid due to its insane endlag but I understand why it needs a nerf.

@aRandomWaffle

Жыл бұрын

theres also gonna be change where attack speed now affects endlag by 50%

I hate this. I just started to improve in my warrior file and this. I hate vetex for this.thus. Edit : they needed beast instinct aoe which was a main part of my build now I was forced to rove it cuz of its reduce in aoe. And now vindicator as well? Well make it more common now since they nerfing it so much. What's the point of it being rare if it is not strong?

@sim2769

Жыл бұрын

I'm just gonna say this, beast instinct suuuucks for pvp

The game is moving in a direction where your success relies on actual aiming instead of just looking in that direction casting/using a skill and hitting 80% of the time. This is needed if pvp is supposed to be in the game despite it being a “pve” game. Its a good reason why i stopped playing too, people rely so much on AoE’s because of how stupid strong they are. It made pvp so boring and tedious it became more of a “who spams aoe’s the most” rather than a competition of skill.

wait triesta now gives the charred effect.. damn wait that might actually make my terrable build a fire conjurer kinda good hmm

@jet_set8648

Жыл бұрын

You’ll need to wait for the next level cap. I’m not sure it’s possible to have Triasta’s abilities on a Conjurer right now.

@aguy6500

Жыл бұрын

@@jet_set8648 its not you need max weapons for the attacks but im a hollow knight fan i have been waiting for a game for years so i can wait

@btheflyingxbox

Жыл бұрын

fire conjurer isn't terrible! you just get no bleeding and 5% bonus damage on burning opponents (mountain wind goated!!!) and uhh a wee bit less damage

Between the mage nerf last update and the weapon nerfs next update till spirit weapons are added combats styles maybe the only not nerfed set up by the time nimbus sea drops

good 150 wep - 100 magic conjurers make me sick by the amount of times I've seen them.

The vindicator and Trista users are gonna start crying LOL, here comes the rise of the Conjurers and the increase of the value of reset portions

@aPeasant

Жыл бұрын

Aren't conjurers also hurt by the nerf ? At least the scimitars nerf is going to affect them

@L_ightninng

Жыл бұрын

The katana and scimitars nerf will be a bit of a hit but there is always stuff like greataxe, great sword and other things for conjurers

@aPeasant

Жыл бұрын

@@L_ightninng and I guess warriors still have the ravenna greatsword

@CrossFirePlayz

Жыл бұрын

@@aPeasant Not really, The scimitars have been made a longer tp move, making it easy movement and the kai sbare is already pretty good. and my kit i just use scimitars sunken sword and storm caller and pretty much does nothing negative

@CrossFirePlayz

Жыл бұрын

@@L_ightninng people should start using the storm caller, It's really op if you understand how to use it

Me being a warrior I am shaken.

@Noober_0

Жыл бұрын

Unrelated but do boss/miniboss drop weapons have higher damage than non boss drops?

@hemandhaid3422

Жыл бұрын

​@@Noober_0 probably yeah, look at kai saber, it's basically a katana but a saber and red. I didn't get a katana in my warrior file but I think it deal more damage. I'm probably wrong

@pillrat

Жыл бұрын

@@Noober_0 yeah cause they’re higher quality

@Noober_0

Жыл бұрын

@pilles936 iron and old weapons have the same base damage at max level Since iron weapons dont have their third skills yet theyre badically exactly the same as old and rusty weapons so i prob shoulda went 100 wep and 150 mag conjurer for the aura and imbue damage

@pillrat

Жыл бұрын

@@Noober_0 the higher quality weapons have more speed and aoe, pretty sure they’ve got more damage as well but idk, it might be bugged

Bro now my lord elius cosplay its even less good at pvp 💀

Weapons: Already weak as hell and gets bodied by really just anything else, the musket aside (which is one of the more overpowered weapons) Warriors and Conjurers: Already low in population due to the weakness of weapons Vetex: "Okay, but have you seen these patch notes"

@davidhower7095

Жыл бұрын

Conjurer is literally the most popular class????

@shironhel7184

Жыл бұрын

​​@@davidhower7095 Its rather not because of its good, but because people like when sword + magic

@Noober_0

Жыл бұрын

I want my main file to be able to use its magic but since its a light base and metal awakening i decided to use my stat reset for going 130 wep 120 mag conjurer

@chisome1777

Жыл бұрын

Weapons are op though

@OdinJrthesecond

Жыл бұрын

@@chisome1777 The only weapon I will admit is OP is the musket. That shit hurts for all the range it has. In spite of that, to my knowledge, it wasn't nerfed.

Good I’m gonna get general Argos weapons for my general argos bulid

I feel like I have more of a chance now against weapon builds as a warlock

Oh hell no I need to become warlock now please help I don't know how to make interchange potion

@L_ightninng

Жыл бұрын

Reset potions won't exist for a while, even when the potion brewing update comes it is likely that you need to go into the dark sea to get the ingredients

As a Knight, this would not affected me that much since the only weapon I have that has been nerfed are the dual scimitars. I just use the TP Ability for free damage and for mobility, I consider this as a Win.

That stat reset button lookin real nice…

It seems that iron leg warlords didn’t get affected heavily, since I can just go for power instead of intensity

Me who uses all Elius weapons: well... I got the bow...

Fellow Warriors and conjurers, we're gonna die.

Cause if u look at warlords nerfs it can be fixed with some attack size and power.

petetion to get a wind buff and heres why: 1. its the only magic in the game without staus effects. Its base dmg is low enough to nerf every single imbue on fs in the game. and it isnt even the 2nd fastest magic in the game

@sahirattri6467

Жыл бұрын

It has knockback, big aoe and a higher than average speed

@arcticcube

Жыл бұрын

@@sahirattri6467 i see your point but uh you barely get any knockback unless 257 intensity although i guess ur right on aoe and speed

@sahirattri6467

Жыл бұрын

@@arcticcube Atleast wind has some synergy with ice and snow I guess

ok come on vetex do you just want everyone ti go back to mage and have the pulsar that has a good aoe?

@extox102

Жыл бұрын

Warrior deserved that nerf now strength needs a nerf too

@leaviathan2879

Жыл бұрын

​@@extox102bro which is going to be da meta spirit weapons????

@aguy6500

Жыл бұрын

@@extox102 if it keeps going like that everyone will have just a little bit of aoe and little to no damage the vindicator i understand tho but why the other ones

@extox102

Жыл бұрын

@@aguy6500 nah mages are in a good spot rn and warrior is going to be too, everyone just wants to be meta cause they have 0 skill

@jamclone

Жыл бұрын

@@aguy6500 if something has high aoe, the only way of balancing it is by reducing its damage. Slow speed is just not enough, it will get abused to death

Upside tho, Katana's will have slightly far range and that's what matter to me.

Everyone switching when the meta changes again

explosion great sword needs a bigger nerf ngl

I'm more so saddened by the possibility of attack speed REDUCING the distance of crash, what's the point of agility increasing distance if attack speed reduces it (ain't nobody wanna miss a crash and slowly fly a mile)

@btheflyingxbox

Жыл бұрын

attack speed doesn't reduce the distance, it reduces the TIME it takes to reach max distance.

@shadowjgaming6502

Жыл бұрын

@@btheflyingxbox The balance document used for this video has 'attack speed now reduces crash/spiraling fury distance' marked as critical priority

@shadowjgaming6502

Жыл бұрын

@@sosillyjames Nah it's just bugged currently (attack speed is meant to give no distance after a nerf) and the two possibilities is either the bug will be fixed AND it reduces distance or this is used to fix the bug (doubt)

@btheflyingxbox

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowjgaming6502 Ah, i guess i misread the documents. Sorry about that.

looks like ill finally have to pickup my elius bow

Man the nerfs were on the weapons I use the most... (Scimitars of Storm and Vindicator) as a warrior 😢

@OP_LOLER

Жыл бұрын

guess its time to use commoder kais blade

@capybara_ofc

Жыл бұрын

@@OP_LOLER No because I'm a part of the grand Navy 😭

@capybara_ofc

Жыл бұрын

@@OP_LOLER Atleast I have Elius bow

@OP_LOLER

Жыл бұрын

@@capybara_ofc i sacrificed my honor to get the sword so shall you

@capybara_ofc

Жыл бұрын

@@OP_LOLER will do

Warlords just sitting here with way bigger AoE than Warriors yet still comes out clean somehow.

@Rororandd

Жыл бұрын

Everyone likes Warlords

@chisome1777

Жыл бұрын

Strength weapons are getting speed nerfs btw

@jovicamateric7756

Жыл бұрын

To be fair warlords are slow af and don't do as much damage.

Op nvm this is way I should watch

Me being conjurer for drip purposes: There is a nerf? Barely feel a thing tho.

Warlord weapons should get nerfed as well, i believe.

I'm gonna become an gunslinger now

Now a nerf to air stalling and ironleg will restore balance Also remove model blocking, add a proper clash system

@chisome1777

Жыл бұрын

Why would iron leg need to get nerfed, its slow ash and has less range than every other fighting style

@tehnoobleader7673

Жыл бұрын

@@chisome1777 because the aoe and damage is unnecessarily massive Hell I fought a friend with earth ironleg and his crash hit me while I'm at the max T jump height, and he aimed at the ground Not only this, he can cover up his mobility issues by dashes Now here's the best part, bro does 230 dmg per move with 1900 hp, he has 47 power, I have 78 on my mage slot and I do 189 dmg I'm the one with 30 more power yet he does 40 higher damage than me while also having 400 more hp

@chisome1777

Жыл бұрын

@@tehnoobleader7673 Its earth iron leg. Hes using a heavy magic on a heavy fighting style making it way slower but more damage. Earth is also tied for the biggest aoe in the game. Its not iron leg that needs a nerf as a whole, crash's aoe when you smash from the air needs a nerf. Also iron leg's stats are near the same as metal, this means the damage multiplier is one of the highest in game. It'll do more damage than yours depending on your magic

@tehnoobleader7673

Жыл бұрын

@@chisome1777 it's not slow at all, it actually takes the same or even lower time to hit than the faster styles like thermo The aoe is insanely massive and his damage multiplier is a whopping 1.1x Earth as a magic alone is not even that good but pair it with the strongest style and u get the new metal mage And again, it's smash not crash that gets bigger if u use it from the air

@chisome1777

Жыл бұрын

@@tehnoobleader7673 The difference in speed is the end lag, start up, and range on moves. Ik this since im a berserker. Thermo has way less start up and end lag on moves and has way more range on crash and shot. Its getting nerfed damage wise next upd anyways since two way synergies wont exist anymore. Currently iron leg gets buffed from bleeding as well as earth so it stacks but now only the synergy with the highest damage buff will work while the other doesnt activate.

Deserved, now all we need left is a nerf for fighting style based builds

@bowldawg4394

Жыл бұрын

fighting styles are fine what

@Professional_Narcissist

Жыл бұрын

Bro we can barely hit you, while you can hit us from the otherside of the arena. Its your fault for coming so close to us :P

@hemandhaid3422

Жыл бұрын

​@@Professional_Narcissist the smash move when you are up in the air:

@Foxeeeeeeee

Жыл бұрын

fr last time I played (easter event) berserkers were everywhere spamming their giant aoe attacks that u couldn't even dodge doing like half ur hp while having almost 3k hp because of focus

@pillrat

Жыл бұрын

Warlock synergies and imbues are getting big nerfs and thermo is also getting big nerfs

Hm..yes lets nerf warrior weapons to shit the community will love it for sure Me a warrior main: Hol'up let me get my shotgun right quick.

Warlock nerf would be dope

@StupidestStorm

Жыл бұрын

crystal warlock got nerfed also

@Alex-xk1cl

Жыл бұрын

@@StupidestStorm not enough

@leaviathan2879

Жыл бұрын

​@@StupidestStormwhat about explo-thermo cuh

@anonymous3091

Жыл бұрын

​@@leaviathan2879 explo thermo is not as bad as other builds.

@Professional_Narcissist

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymous3091 Yeah no... explo-thermo can do as much as 400+ damage with shots.

They should just nerf warlord and warlock because they do some insane damage

Although this update is a but unfortunate since I'm a warrior main it ain't really all that bad I never use the vindicator or triasta cuz tbh they're not fun nor are they reliable since their damage is kinda mediocre imo the scimitars side hitbox nerf ain't a big deal since that hit box was never that big in the first place this is a W update imo since it'll make warrior a more skill based class rather than w/e that brain dead AOE trash was

@qraive

Жыл бұрын

i saw a guy idk if he was cheating but his vindicator did like 400 damage per hit

@errebusaether

Жыл бұрын

@@qraive How much was his hp?

@qraive

Жыл бұрын

@@errebusaether he had like 1.3k maybe more

@errebusaether

Жыл бұрын

@@qraive Damn, what the hell!? That much hp and damage..? The most damage I dealt was 235 with a vindicator. 💀 while my hp is 1.4k. You sure you didn’t mistaken it? I don’t think a vindicator is supposed to deal that much dmg otherwise mages would’ve been smoked with that build.

@qraive

Жыл бұрын

@@errebusaether i just check he had 1584 max hp even crazier i got a recording of him

My gun?!1!1!1!?

If this happen ima go warlord.

They are all pretty fair changes, in turn other lesser uses weapons are getting buffed to encourage more variety. Warrior will be completely fine after these nerfs especially when you take into account the dmg boosts warriors will be getting for their awakenings.

This just verified that I should go warlord. I was warrior since the start of arcane odyssey and it's been bad for pvp since the start. I almost won against a warlord of the sea after the warrior buffs but he literally just ran away spamming jumps and crashes. What's the point of being a warrior if the mobility is such trash that these kids can effortlessly air stall and fly away from you. Like these kids can legit just run and spam jumps and even if I catch them and tag them I just fall below them as they run away on top of buildings and mountains. It's such a joke. I can't believe even the warlords of the sea are trash at pvp unless they gank and run like wtf.

@ColdGrim

Жыл бұрын

I know some warlords of the sea may be actually good at pvp but from what I've seen everyone with a high bounty plays like a scared child. If they can't deal 500 dmg before you can counter attack they run.

@tehnoobleader7673

Жыл бұрын

That's not because Ur a warrior that's just brain-dead fs mobility combined with the poison dagger The only ppl who can effectively counter it are fighting style users

@ColdGrim

Жыл бұрын

@@tehnoobleader7673 Lol he wasn't even using dagger he was a berserker. Warrior has no air jumps to keep height while berserker does. It's far harder to hit someone when they can literally just climb away from you and the only thing you have are instant dashes with endlag.

@tehnoobleader7673

Жыл бұрын

@@ColdGrim u can use grabs to go up too Yes your options are lower but Ur fighting a build that's the most toxic and cancerous thing to ever exist

@ColdGrim

Жыл бұрын

@@tehnoobleader7673 I know I tried my hardest but it doesn't come down to skill in this game anymore. These kids just abuse every cheap trick they have. Kind of pathetic when the top players don't even have enough skill to win without no skill plays.

well atleast i have a mage slot

Weapons are already far weaker than magic and styles so not much changes

NOOO NOT THE VINDICATOR!!

@coolcaleb171

Жыл бұрын

YESSSS THE VINDICATOR

Not the etheral flash pls no

AND I JUST MADE A WARRIOR BUILD BRUH

gunner gaminger

Sorry wrong warlocks

But they aint nerfing beserker 💀

@CrimsonRoblox

Жыл бұрын

Ikr warlock as well since it's like berserker too but can imbue magic

@tehnoobleader7673

Жыл бұрын

Fr

😈

In this patch warlords and beserkers got no nerfs so go abuse them

@leaviathan2879

Жыл бұрын

What about warlock crystallized got nerfed or somein but what about explo-thermo or somein

@qraive

Жыл бұрын

@@leaviathan2879 he means warlods not warlocks...

schimitars: nerf me : uses it anyways