We tried the ERP 2.0 on-board unit
We had an ERP 2.0 on-board unit installed to try it out. Here's how it went and what you can expect as the second generation of Singapore's electronic road pricing system is rolled out.
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The big ass screen creates a blindspot on your right when turning left. Good job LTA.
@jovenang7811
3 ай бұрын
The screen is optional
@LonganLee
3 ай бұрын
I think most would clap and support
@ysngngys7753
3 ай бұрын
@@jovenang7811 When u sell your car, will buyer be so friendly to waive?
@jovenang7811
3 ай бұрын
@@ysngngys7753 you already choose to buy a car so no point complaining
@cyc8971
3 ай бұрын
then why design it in the first place and include it as part of the OBU package when its "optional".@@jovenang7811
processing unit at passenger side, haha. Can CNA interview the genius designer who comes up with such a fantastic design
@alvinmah6148
2 ай бұрын
I hope this is not a compliment
One step forward, five steps back. What a monstrosity compared to the current system!
Who was SO DUMB to place the CEPAS Card on the Passenger's side ? Expect more Accidents to Happen when Driver's Kalang Kabut to insert the Card
@yen7315
3 ай бұрын
Think we can choose a more convenient spot to install
@kklim2779
3 ай бұрын
Gotta dismantle this crap to replace my cabin filter!
@tangt4860
3 ай бұрын
Never seen a dumber design. See how she is pretending very hard not to struggle to stretch her hands to insert it - wonder how many takes were wasted to capture her trying to insert it in.
@glenn84
3 ай бұрын
can steal it easily if another passenger sits in front
@sayyamzahid505
3 ай бұрын
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I think we are going backwards.
LTA make something laughable and force it down everyone’s throat. This is an embarrassment. LTA, this is SimplyGo all over again. When are you going to learn?
@auburnnation7214
3 ай бұрын
The best is OYK saying 'we paid, suck it up' in that post when it was first announced. You know who to vote for.
@2annec97
2 ай бұрын
Except the drivers community is not as huge as train commuters. In short, they won't listen and will force it down our throat.
@TheSunMoon
2 ай бұрын
Next election will tell about the citizens' sentiments.😅
So poorly designed, did LTA receive bribery for choosing this design?
@user-hr7dj1hl8t
Ай бұрын
CPIB like not working leh or so we still have CPIB or Bo Liao 😅
it's 2024, come on la this kind of design is primary school standard
@AlvinSays
3 ай бұрын
LTA employed probably primary kids to lead this project
@TheSunMoon
2 ай бұрын
Must be tender for this project was opened to "wonderful" candidates😅
Make sure LTA don’t screw up like the MRT payment system again, then ask us to reinstate back the old erp system, and need $40m to maintain the old system.
@tangt4860
3 ай бұрын
Matter of time but they will push all the costs of their utter failure for Singaporeans and car owners to pay.
@TheSunMoon
2 ай бұрын
Citizens pay for the incompetence of agencies. Nothing new..😅
@wilsonlimweisheng
2 ай бұрын
Already screwed up
🐔la… how to reach over there to put in the card… brainless design
@glenn84
3 ай бұрын
Even she is struggling to reach it.
LTA should provide GIRO service so that we do not have to pay credit card or debit card service providers for a fee to top up.
what if the carpark gantry requires you to remove the cash card to manually insert/tap? Need to bend down and to retrieve the card under the passenger compartment while stopping at a slope(typical CP setting)... Are these typical factors considered?
Dumb and dumber: LTA edition. Sit in office too long to not know this it not viable, but enforcing it anyway.
lol well done LTA. people like to go forward in thinking and future proof. LTA is going backwards. Problem 1: 1 erp unit become 3 units. waste of ALOT of space in car Problem 2: Unable to install processing unit on driver side or specific areas to facilitate insert of cash card. How are you going to insert cash card during an emergency? if driving a car model like this vid, where the processing unit is installed at the passenger side, how are u gonna insert a cash card on time? value aside, what if cash card requires a re-insertion due to some problem? how? Problem 3: The display unit is so big n obstructive. obstructs your view so much, how not to be not distracted? The scholar who designed this... i hope you are proud of your design/product, cos its absolutely backwards n garbo. ever heard of KISS? (keep it simple & stupid) THIS IS NOT SIMPLE AND STUPID.
@AlvinSays
3 ай бұрын
the scholar who designed this and the one approving it should be publicly shamed man
congratufinglations to whoever proposed and signed off on this
@efgerfgergferg6749
3 ай бұрын
All collect their 'A' grades and rotated to other departments
@tangt4860
3 ай бұрын
Those people are going to get extra civil serpents bonuses, public service medals and of course have tea in Ridout - not the McDonald's one hor.
@torrhthc4103
3 ай бұрын
N they justify themselves to have pay matching to Mnc ceo with this kind of std. just look at sph and u know their standard, might not even get into apple as a toilet cleaner
CNA purposely use the biggest car to show how small the display is.
Nothing is seamless as we see fm the demo . This is the worse we could imagine as drivers in the road daily . Totally unacceptable
@auburnnation7214
3 ай бұрын
She was also struggling putting the cashcard in despite trying to make it seem great. lol
Wow, so troublesome to insert the card if installed at the passenger side.
@huangyongting160
3 ай бұрын
Can use debit/credit card I guess less complain?
@vivazhy
3 ай бұрын
what out pulling out card to use parking coupons? such a hassle. @@huangyongting160
@fidelcatsro6948
3 ай бұрын
Extra stretching workout for driver😂😂
@gordonng701
3 ай бұрын
@@huangyongting160credit card only for ERP. How to insert cards to pay for parking?
@alvinmah6148
2 ай бұрын
Whoever designed and approved this 😨
The placement of the unit for the CEPAS is SO EMBARRASSING! We now have to stretch out our arms so far away or go to the passenger seat just to input our card, WHAT???!!!
Can someone explain, if I am given a complimentary ticket for parking, it is so hard to take the CEPAS card out temporarily, so that the charges is not deducted fm my store value. How ah!
@UncleJunyu
3 ай бұрын
I also asked the same question, see point 11. www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/newsroom/2024/3/news-releases/on-board_unit_installation_extended.html
@plong2097
3 ай бұрын
And short people like me the hand cannot reach the passenger side, will have to go to passenger side, remove the card, go thru gantry with complimentary pass, then what? Stop pass the gantry, come out from the car and put back the cash card at the passenger side? OMG, kena horn upside down!
@LuqmanLuqman-sb8lo
2 ай бұрын
Same for entering malaysia. Need to take card to pay the fees leh. This is not a smart move from lta.
Try drive to JB custom and then u have to reach so far away to take out and put back your cash card. 😂😂
Thought LTA is only SimplyGOng, now its SimplyKongkum!
Asking on behalf of people with belly, how do we bend over to put the CEPAS card
@tangt4860
3 ай бұрын
Josephine will teach you -she is the expert on small spaces.
@glenn84
3 ай бұрын
They want us to forget about it. Sign up automatic top up and hope we forget
@ryanchan7169
3 ай бұрын
if hv female passenger how? I bend or she bend, against the law? hee
Screen with suction cup, sooner or later will drop and rubber harden in our weather. IU unit might as well install in back boot!😂😂😂 U-turn might need another hundred millions to rectify just like the Simply Gos Tan.
@cobaltpica
3 ай бұрын
They just raise the GST again lor!
OMG...can't LTA made it smaller in size? CEPAS card and Antenna can be integrated as one complete unit????Touch screen display on the center console area.
didn't know that when you just touch the screen, $40 becomes $26. $14 just to touch the screen! Dang!
This is such outdated hardware. Can't believe we as drivers are being forced to adopt this outdated system. Waiting for complaints of obstructed forward view from drivers who also mount their handphones to the windscreen, or complaints about the touchscreen falling off when parked in hot sun, or passenger accidentally kicking the processing unit.
@tangt4860
3 ай бұрын
Not until a sizeable number of drivers and pedestrians have been killed by this horrible design.
How do i pay toll at land checkpoints? Dont i have to remove the cashcard?
Soon LTA will make u buy and maintain your own car and u have to pay rent via distance based charges just like owning your own taxi! Brilliant business model! Way to go!
@nicklee7002
3 ай бұрын
Soon every driver is just like a taxi driver; however the difference is taxi driver can earn money.
@infinitelight465
3 ай бұрын
@@nicklee7002 , u can too as Grab driver and Temasek as a shareholder will thank you for your contribution!
@mitsubishilancer727
3 ай бұрын
Yes. U become ur own tqxi driver taxi ur way come
She can't even insert the cash card easily
still wonder who designed and who approved and who vetted this
TOUCH Screen WAY Too BIG n BAD Placement; with More Silver Zones and Roads Narrowing Suddenly, Expect more cars to Mount these Kerbs Potentially Puncturing the Tyres
why the card unit not mounted at the driver side? Why need a additional card where it can designed to merge with the touch screen unit?
1:03 3 hours? This cost borne by govt ya, so coffer as long manhour as possible? Who is going to pay if solar film is ripped during the replacement process? 1:45 Try this while one is driving. Blue tent waiting. 2:00 What's that pic for? Panel test? And thanks for adding a 3rd clock to the vehicle for triangulation. 2:25 From a dangerous driver perspective, don't u see that this pc of crackpot hinders ur A pillar even if its not turned on? 2:40 Haha. What a joke...What's the point then? 3:18 Why not under the driver's side? Dun tell me drivers emit a lot of heat? 4:10 Head-in...duh
my car already have a clock on the dash board, a clock on the infotainment system, and a clock in the middle of the car, and now will have another clock - guess i can use them as World Clock - New York, London, Beijing and Tokyo ..... nice!!!
Thank you CNA. It’s a bulky display which may be distracting….
So we ALL buy cars that at a minimum cost the same as an S-class Mercedes overseas, and you ask us to install that lousy touchscreen? Looks like technology from 25 years ago. And the fact they say that smartphone connectivity is still being worked on shows they didn't think things through.
i don't get it which genius designed the cash card device so fkn far LOL. the host isn't even convincing T_T totally struggling to reach it
My gosh. Did they open tender for the design and solution? 😮
@tangt4860
3 ай бұрын
Does corruption need a reason?
@rizal_masriz_isaac
3 ай бұрын
Do you think it is "open" tender ???
This reporter has good upbringing. So honest👀
if dun wan touchscreen, why that card slot cannot put in same position?
despite the negative feedback, it is still implemented anyway.....LOL
Looks like LTA never consulted a Human Factor Expert when designing this. The cashcard placement is the most unergonomic thing I have ever seen.
Superb design! Excellent 3 sophisticated thingy to replace current 1 simple unit. Well done elites! keep it up 😆
@TheSunMoon
2 ай бұрын
Well done in getting the change of public sentiments😂 nxt election will show
Ok whoever designed the cepas accessibility location may have a third tentacle sticking out the left side of their waist to easily access the card at will, but for the rest of us, we just need a simple location in front for our human limbs to easily reach the card so that we can pull it out to topup the thing so you can hopefully get better paid to hire better "engineers" for the sake of our country's future.
CNA should ask the LTA smart officer why bike only need 1 component but car needs 3. If bike can have the reader, GPS and processing in 1 housing, I dont see why we cannot use the same system. I understand bike has no touchscreen and it will be physically bigger if there is one. Let the people choose which one they prefer. Installing the processing at the passenger side is a super retarded method.
why bike is only single unit and car must be two unit?
Did they do mockup in all types of vehicles first before going ahead????
What's the system called? RETRO?
@tangt4860
3 ай бұрын
No just Lau Yah.
Still don't understand why there's a need for something so bulky when there is already a system that deducts directly from your account. Why can't we push for card less payment system when there is already a system available. Can we call for an interview of the designers and the person who approved this? What is their thought process behind this whole system? Is it just bulky because of the system that makes it calculate based on the distance travelled that they will be using in the future?
Terrible. Which smart innovative nation goes backwards and calls it a win?
Waste $$$$$, guess who pay? More taxes n fines from motorists !!!😂
Will we be notified by LTA on when our unit is to be installed? How soon will this be?
@fidelcatsro6948
3 ай бұрын
Jun onwards
This one can check your speed which is connected to base stations island wide
WHO IS THE CHAMPION THAT CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA???
So many so many questions. So this obu number replace the iu number. So is it similar operation for registered car into condo or sentosa, tested? I don’t mind the touch screen, looks cute, could have been smaller, the card thing, I wonder where is a good place for that. No good answer, so many people take out the card for complimentary pass, or tap to flash pay, looks undoable in everybody’s opinion. Why not link the system with simplygo on the phone? And then have the phone scan barcodes for complimentary pass. Seems quite logical. Maybe ideas for 3.0.
The most feared system that makes you pay and pay is here. ERP2 uses gps to get your position so there is no need for ERP gantry anymore. So in long run, you will lost sense of which road is chargable and just pay whenever the systems say its ERP infront. Or worst, they can charge those who drive more and makes transportation and delivery more expensive. It can also technically detect speeding and issue summons! No need speed camera anymore..
Wow ... remember to slot in your card before driving into gantry ... Ehh ... GOV & Stupid LTA didnt do 100% check before implement this??? There are some carpark with is semi-auto ... means i need to pull out the card and tap at the exit panel ... Wahh .... really need to stretch here & there ahh ?? What abt when you get complimentary coupon?? Still need to remove the card out
Who remove the existing ERP 1.0 gadget ?
Good Job LTA! Might as well go back to the good old days of buying coupons for parking and for entering CBD.
LOL THAT CASHCARD SLOT
Just fantastic. Install the prince of the power of the air in thy ride. You guys be vexed already. Indeed, pun as intended. Woe to all of yous Molochians.
Its worse now. Last time you only need to do 1 step which is to slot your card into the IU. Now u need slot your card into the processing unit but at a location which is not convenient + an additional screen that is blocking your view. 😢 Now the front passenger have to do their part to slot the card for the driver to pay for ERP 😂😂😂
Walau…….. then only words that I can think so when I saw the new OBU😅
With the number of cars that need to install - why LTA cannot custom build a single PCB with GPS and cepas functionality. My phone can do both and it is smaller and lighter, and without an internal battery, it can surely fit in the shell of current OBU. Then drop the touch screen because that is totally unnecessary in the first place. Then driver don't have to reach over to insert card. Safety first. If need internal battery, coin cell for reduced functionality should be enough as well. LTA has the mass, so why need 3 components for such simple requirement?
Wahhhh cash card slot under the dashboard 10 miles away from driver
what's the reason for having such a big touchscreen just to show time and how much you have in your cash card??
@ysngngys7753
2 ай бұрын
Not to mention, u get to keep the screen even if u opt out.
as the presenter said, the display is optional information can be view via app on mobile phone, owner can opt for payment that deduct from your credit card if you worry that cepas card ran out of credit. but does hope erp3.0 can be cleaner and more sleek.
I am surprised why it still needs a Cash card. The solution should be using IU unique number to deduct the charges, and collect total bill at month end. Is it this was not done cos collecting at point of use means cash is moved daily faster?
This is super backwards.... waste of space, cash card slot is so FAR away from the driver. And a waste of time to get it installed.
I thought all these unnecessary “upgrade” only happen in Malaysia 😅
can sign up auto cash card top up and install all 3 units in the car boot? display obstructs driver view
If it is a hassle to use the CEPAS card and there is backend payment services available, why not just phase out the card reader?
Shows the type of scholars LTA are recruiting! Top notch!
it's looks like a case of the ERP 2.0 designer doesn't actually drive cars in Singapore... and LTA asking media to produce these PSA stories to save the situation.
The government is teaching us stupid 😅
We already have signposts and speed cameras telling us what's ahead. We dont need extra bulky device in car to tell us all that. I dont see any benefit other than govt now has ability to track every single vehicle. Recall Tracetogether incident..
and refresher course on how to drive as well would be good!!
why cant the cars just use the same motorbike all in 1 version? save cost and materials and standardised across all vehicles also........
Why can’t the card reader be attached to the bottom right of windscreen next to the antenna ???
SpeeeF happy can track your exact spot. Got camera can see inside too ....
LTA partner with skillsfuture now enable every retrenched sinkie car owner to become taxi and grab drivers to display trip fare next time.
What is the purpose of this new gadget vs the current one????
@fidelcatsro6948
3 ай бұрын
You can view colorful pictures on it like tv screen, last time cant do that😂😂😂
CEPAS card =/ Cashcard or Nets FlashPay card?
The stupid thing is, the card slot is at the passenger side. Is should be at the driver side for easy removal of card. For taxi grab drivers is too Risk for the card got stolen by unreasonable passengers. To whom design this unit on the passenger side is just to get promoted. Good planning LTA
I just got notice to fix it, but I must pay. I thought it free
So the purpose of the ERP is to make driving your vehicle more expensive?
So no longer need to pay roadtax right?
Lta probably never thought of thiefs stealing the card lol
They block the view on the riders screen on motorcycles 😅
@fidelcatsro6948
3 ай бұрын
Its ok we watching tik tok most of the time anyway
just wondering who owns the company or companies that produced the 3 units - sure is making lots of money i suppose. was there a real tender for it? hmmm .... interesting and all that money paid and we get a system that looks like a poly final year project at best.
fantastic singapore gets to enjoy the 'driverless ERP ' system
At the passenger side location shown, the device could rip the flesh of the leg(s) of the person sitting there. Was this designed by an engineer? Wonder which school he went to?
come on CNA, the experience looked so bad! the way she had to stretch to put in the card. The design of the OBU and touch screen display. this is as intrusive as it gets!
LTA first was Simply Go now this. Oh wait PMD also.
Despite the negative feedback, LTA still going ahead with it. Is someone getting bribed to roll it out?
The designs of this OBU are set apart in different position , the work of a non driver who know how to design / how could the driver be stretching all over the place to perform a function besides the dashboard must not have obstruction like accessories blocking driver’s view . V poor
Why dont we follow Japan. (The hv alot of toll like on highway entrance) Their card system is faster and the card slot is hidden . Takes up kesser space ***050424 after watching the vid.. Haizz its like a step forward but 2 steps back Itnwas indeed kinda hidden, close enuf. But wth the display takes up space. I rather install a dedicated satellite GPS if liddis , Garmin or smt...
@torrhthc4103
3 ай бұрын
Because ST engineering or the company that design it is not japan level in terms of tech. N japan is already behind korea, no wonder elon thinks pap is not worth the effort talking too.
@jianxiongRaven
3 ай бұрын
@@torrhthc4103 after watching the vid.. Haizz its like a step forward but 2 steps back Itnwas indeed kinda hidden, close enuf. But wth the display takes up space. I rather install a dedicated satellite GPS if liddis , Garmin or smt...
COE is already so high which should be revised or scraped.. LTA should fellow HDB successful BTO balloting system. This is FAIR to the public if owning a car. Is this NEW changes benefit motorist or additional restriction for publicof buying new car ?. I think LTA should not add more restriction.
what the heck is the benefit of the new one then?