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@emmanthegoat

Ай бұрын

Tracy o ya 😎🔥 but the luffy part in the beginning 😐

@user-ex5bp4bc1g

Ай бұрын

I don't understand why yall hate bleach

@FortniteChamp69

Ай бұрын

Female cast for One Piece instead of Bleach thats crazy what has Nami done compared to Senjumaru compared to Yoruichi shes just for comedy she hasnt done shit im at episdoe 1k and Bleach has Better Villains than naruto and One Piece Yhwach and Aizen are the top vilains we cant count the Akatsuki as main villains theyre like the Espada and Sternritters

@FortniteChamp69

Ай бұрын

One Piece Character Designs suck Naruto and Bleach are way better

@ffgnikhilgaming9621

19 күн бұрын

@@FortniteChamp69 yeah in whole conversation he was only saying One Piece to every point, like in power scaling its, Bleach Naruto Luffy And it's objectively correct, but they started downplaying Madara that even characters like Whitebeard could beat him, which is totally wrong.

I know most of these come down to preference at the end of the day. But as a Bleach fan, I appreciate you Rob debating that Bleach have the better villains. I feel theirs been more Bleach love sprinkled in from the first time I discovered your channel, so that's always appreciated. I will say, I do hope one day you find someone who's a huge Bleach fan as you are a OP fan to come on your channel to really take a stance on some of these type of topics. Best side cast, best female characters? Bleach wasnt even in the discussion, like damn. Even if Bleach still isn't chosen at the end, this is when I wish someone who really rocks with Bleach like that was on here, so they can throw some knowledge down to give an educated debate.

@lazy_muken

Ай бұрын

Nah, fr tho

@simonchen7452

Ай бұрын

Actual gud take

@Hattori_864

Ай бұрын

Bleach fire fr, and definitely has one of the greatest influences on new gen anime, but while I can debatably give it best side cast, I can't give it best female cast

@AbelFrost

Ай бұрын

@Hattori_864 That's fair man, I respect it. Should be a head to head with OP and Bleach on that topic, Naruto shouldn't even be in the conversation 😂..But my point is, at the very least, it should have been debated because Bleach got a hell of a lot of females in the cast, whether you looking at how strong they are, usefulness, or fan service (waifu material) Bleach got that in the bag for discussion.

@AntiMage99

Ай бұрын

Im surprised they gave best transformation to naruto even tho bleach is way ahead on that department.

Reiatsu is much more than just Ki. The whole powersystem of how a shinigami's shikai and bankai relates to their own personality and the masks we wear versus the release of all of my being. and how deeply it connects to the shinigami soul. And thats just the shinigami part

@CurryMuncher444

18 күн бұрын

Literally, they all just didn’t even talk about it. Imo it’s one of the best power systems.

I SWEAR IF EVERYONE OF THEM READ BLEACH LIKE THEY READ ONE PIECE BLEACH WOULD BE TOP 2 FOR THEM We really don’t deserve Kubo man Shonen Showdown the only one who understood a little bit of bleach

@KuraiCelestial

Ай бұрын

Tired of Bleach being slept on, it’s so goated

@Sanoy1010

Ай бұрын

i don't think its people's problem that they do not read bleach. its bleach problem that they are so inconsistent with the anime that people lost all their motive to read it.. if it was as consistent as one piece with its anime it would have motivated people more for reading manga.....

@acedragneellegacy1408

Ай бұрын

@@Sanoy1010 i get your point of view and not gonna lie, the bleach anime before tybwa was butchered with fillers but most of the people i know and seen on social media who decided to read bleach till the tybw and then watch the anime actually realizes how deep and how well crafted the story actually is

@acedragneellegacy1408

Ай бұрын

@@Sanoy1010 and for KZread channels which specifically talk about anime, you’d expect that they at least read all of the big 3 and not just “I watched it when i was young no need to watch or read the manga”

@KuraiCelestial

Ай бұрын

@@Sanoy1010 I would not be calling the One Piece anime consistent 💀, also, that’s just working on a new season, that’s not inconsistency, especially considering the TYBW anime has been made better than the manga

Yall wrong with the face of influence, it was stated by gege that his series was influenced by bleach same thing with demon slayer. With JJK for example cursed spirits being similar to hollows, gojo being similar in personailty to kisuke (although looks similar to kakashi), Gege stated also that Todo is inspired by Kenpachi and there are many other stuff. For Demon slayer the Hashira being similar to the idea of Captains in bleach, and to kill demons by a special metal sword is similar to killing hollows with the Zanpaktous etc.. many more stuff also such as Balck Clover having the Captians idea, for example Nozel is similar to Byakuya, Jack the reaper to Noitora (espada no.5), the whole plot twist with Julius which is a carbon copy of Aizens. I think that bleach is really the most influential out of the big 3.

@simonchen7452

Ай бұрын

💯 brudda know ball unlike some haters 😭

@Muhammad_marij

Ай бұрын

There’s also aot, mikasa is just a more tougher Rukia in terms of character design

@neko-arcsburner5010

Ай бұрын

they just loving hating on bleach bro

@SamuelRondreigz4720

Ай бұрын

PREACH

@Elen_aru

Ай бұрын

Plot twist with Julius was foreshadowed from first arc Bleach is most influential, no doubt here Even Asta becoming swordsman was inspired by it I think

To help with bleach being the face of influence you can look at yuji, todo, and gojo and say they're pretty much exactly like ichigo, kenpachi, and kisuke, then the theme of human group slaying monsters, that is bleach's exact base, other examples of it is chainsaw man, attack on titan, and demon slayer. The gotei 13 of demon slayer is the demon slayer corps and the hashira is like the captains. And after watching how influential bleach is it turns out that bleach inspired the writer of my hero to draw and create his own zanpakuto.

@denobiskenechi1682

Ай бұрын

Please tell me how csm,mha and aot are inspired by bleach Bro bleach fans always trying to claim any new popular shounen anime. Soon they'll say undead unlock, blue lock and horimiya are inspired by bleach

@Songoku-dm4nd

Ай бұрын

bruh dragonball is infleunce

@za-ir5ni

Ай бұрын

You're literally just taking basic concepts and trying to find a similarity to something in Bleach and claiming that it's therefore an influence. For one, you're straight up lying about CSM since Fujimoto said his influences were western movies and anime like FLCL and Jin Roh. Same goes for AOT and Demon Slayer where the writers never brought up Bleach. Nice try

@za-ir5ni

Ай бұрын

​@beastxdddMost of those writers never mentioned Bleach you liar.

@frosty37

Ай бұрын

Naruto influenced: Demon slayer KaguraBachi JJK MHA

Bleach had to be discussed in transformations. The espada' resureccion forms go crazy, even though naruto is my no.1 anime

W video as always bro! 👑 Tsukishima is an underrated villain from Bleach also who deserves more flowers! He broke Ichigo down with finesse 🔥

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

Yoo what’s up bro! Yeah Bleach villains are tough

@Blankseeker

Ай бұрын

Yo I love your videos

@yotheyfighting922

Ай бұрын

Ginjo is literally better

@307nishchay8

5 күн бұрын

​@@yotheyfighting922 ginjo was fine..but my uncle tsukishima literally made ichigo beg and cry lmao. It was the first time ichigo felt that lonely and abandoned. It was scary af for me.

@yotheyfighting922

5 күн бұрын

@@307nishchay8 I agree. Tsukishima was a badass but Ginjo was the reason all of this occurred in the first place

they underestimate Bleach too much, it's clear from the creator of Black Clover himself who said that the captains were inspired by Gotei 13, the problematic relationship between the brothers in Black Clover was also inspired by Rukia and Byakuya, even the author himself said that he was one of Bleach's lovers. Previously, not only that, Jujutsu Kaisen started from a domain similar to Bankai Tosen, Gojo's power was similar in concept to Streinreitter W, even JJK scenes came from Bleach, and the author also said that he made comics inspired by Bleach, not only that Kimetsu No Yaiba also said the same thing, so yes, Bleach is acknowledged by many new gen authors as their inspiration, just try reading their interviews

@Yo42169

Ай бұрын

And also the fact that Gege made Gojo while trying to create a Kenpachi clone

@WieldMyWord

Ай бұрын

Not only that, but even League of legends took the word "shunpo" and implemented it as an ability for Katarina (one of the main promotion character of the game) in the game, the franchise had even big influence outside of anime. These guys are smoking so high on biases its not even funny.

@sharebear421

Ай бұрын

Black clover is mid though. Bleach is undoubtedly one of the goats

@ChrisMS0815

25 күн бұрын

When I first started watching Black Clover instantly got Bleach vibes from it. Where did he get Naruto from? Because Asta yells like an idiot like Naruto?

i think bleach is the most influential. black clover for example was inspired by it

@sharebear421

Ай бұрын

Black clover is mid, bleach has inspired better series

@solomongrey5339

Ай бұрын

​@@sharebear421 how so? it's not really lacking in anything is it? good arcs, good progression, character development, good art which even improved with time, good female cast.

@sharebear421

Ай бұрын

@@solomongrey5339 characters are extremely one note and usually flat out cringe with yuno being probably the worst deuteragonist in battle shonen, it feels very Disney like with super low stakes/outcomes. MC is suuuuper generic and cliche and quite annoying even in the English dub. Most of the cast outside of the black bulls are non existent or get little to do. Villains are probably some of the most under developed and feel very cookie cutter. Art is great but the power system is pretty basic and feels very reminiscent of fairy tail mixed with zatch bell. I wouldn’t say a good female cast either, alot of tropes and most are pretty basic or boring. Idk it’s not a bad series but it’s not very good either, just very middling/average. Reminds me alot of fairy tail

@darthkage2163

19 күн бұрын

​@@sharebear421mate you clearly not intelligent enough to get past the surface level of the story of the characters, clear example of this is saying asta is annoying because if you had any concept of human emotions and fears you would easily understand why asta is loud in the earlier part of the series it's a defence mechanism against not only everyone around him constantly talking down to him for being a no magic peasant but also against is own self doubts he shouts to silence those self doubts and once he realised people believe in him and is dream he shouts less you clear don't know what you talking about every take you given just shows your lack of intelligence

The disrespect to Bleach in the "things the big 3 does the best" take. Homie really said Madara had more swag than Aizen? Dude who got outsmarted and defeated by Zetsu? Villains, Art, Character Designs, MC, Transformations, and strongest should all go to Bleach imo. It's always sad to see how many people either haven't read Bleach or just disrespect it because it's the least popular. Also, Tracey is half correct about his influence take. The JJK author cited both Naruto and Bleach as heavy influences. There's also more mangaka that I've seen say Bleach heavily influenced their show.

@hihello-sk5ql

Ай бұрын

Ok, Aizen's amazing, thing is, aside from Aizen, who do you got?, did you forgot about pain? the guy who literally made Naruto questioned his own ideals? his cycle of hate speech alone has more depth it's still being talked about to this day, Hell, it's a disrespect to pain to say Madara was a better villain than him, sure, he's cooler, thats the only thing he got over pain, Depth, Dynamics to the MC, Ideals, Pain quite literally is the best villain in the big 3

@micah459

Ай бұрын

@@hihello-sk5ql Tsukishima, Yhwach, Grimmjow, Ulquiorra, etc. If you think the only good villain in Bleach is Aizen, then you clearly haven't watched/read the series. Pain is cool and better than Madara but he still got talk-no-jutsu by Naruto

@anthonyhaye2385

Ай бұрын

Tokinada clears all Naruto villians​@@hihello-sk5ql

@The.King.In.Black.

Ай бұрын

How is ichigo a better mc than luffy?

@hihello-sk5ql

Ай бұрын

@@micah459 grimjow isn't even a main villain dude's more like a katakuri villain, who df cares about tsukishima? Not to mention he appeared in the worst arc from bleach

these guys generally hurt my head

me as a bleach fan *sees another bleach downplay* *sips coffee* nothing new

@DeafeatedSamuelB

Ай бұрын

Right there with you brother

@tusk2358

13 күн бұрын

Ngl my heart is aching rn ❤

Bleach has Influenced way more new gen anime, the creators themselves have come out and stated this multiple times

@do7685

Ай бұрын

Kinda tuff too compare because honestly almost any shonen after 2014 has a LOT of tropes from the big 3 e.g. MHA, Black clover, JJK, those are some obvious ones

@KhalidAbdelgader

Ай бұрын

​@do7685 nah it's easy when you have those many authors saying bleach and not naruto or one piece

@WieldMyWord

Ай бұрын

@@do7685 JJK is almost the same as bleach, some of the plot twist are almost directly how it was in Bleach. Hollows and cursed spirit is very alike if you read the early bleach chapters in how supernatural the setting was. Even the Mai Zenin vs Maki Zenin had almost the same conclusion as Yoruichi vs Soifon battle, Mai crying in the end and asking why Maki left her is almost one to one in how it happened in Bleach. As for mha and BC they have less inspiration but the authors have said bleach was an inspiration in their career, so..

@sharebear421

Ай бұрын

@@KhalidAbdelgaderjust because an author mentions bleach as an imposition doesn’t meant it’s the only one they were inspired by lol most authors aren’t gonna make a list of everything they were inspired by

12:12 Main character: one piece Deuteragonist: naruto Side cast: one piece Female cast: Bleach Villians: bleach Fights: bleach Plot/story: naruto Art: bleach Transformation: one piece/bleach Character design: bleach Emotional impact: one piece Power system: one piece Anime: naruto Manga: one piece Strongest: bleach World building: one piece

@mincilimcisaacmaseko2452

Ай бұрын

Fights deffs Naruto

@solomongrey5339

Ай бұрын

I'd give the fights to Naruto since they're more complex and aren't always linear and clear like in bleach plot maybe should go to one piece since it never deviates from the goal of become the pirate king power system should go to bleach since it's far more complex and it's shown a lot of variety: shinigami with zanpaktou, shunpo, kido, spirit tech, hollowification; hollows with evolution, resurrection, hierro and sonido; quincy with reishi absorption, arrows, vollstanding, shrift, blut vene and arterie; fullbringers with object's soul manipulation, fullbring.

@user-qp5do7zh6w

Ай бұрын

​@@mincilimcisaacmaseko2452 Pls SEE Blood War or Fights un Manga...

@user-qp5do7zh6w

Ай бұрын

Power System One Piece, Literal Haki is the most Shit Oda CREATED,sorry But athis go To Bleach, Shikai, Bankai, Reiatsu,Self Deployment, Zanpakutou NAME, Race and Origin Bro....Wtf OP

Most definitely want another one of these. Tracy and Shonen Showdown isn’t what I expected to see to see today, but I’m all here for it. Definitely a collab that I thought I wouldn’t get😁

So much Naruto and One Piece meatriding going on 😂😂

@sharebear421

Ай бұрын

Rob shows love to all series, even though one piece is his favorite. The gabe dude he has on sometimes is a hater though and naruto/dbz stan

One piece- best protagonist, best plot and best world building Naruto- best fights, best deuteragonist, best deaths and best antagonists Bleach-best character designs, best osts, best villain, best side characters, best female cast, best plot twist, best power system, best animation and best elevated source material if we include tybw arc

@primeboi242

Ай бұрын

Yea naruto is the weakest out of big 3, my favourite is blech

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

Not mad at it but I would change some things

@superelite5133

Ай бұрын

Bleach so goated

@jayanmazumder359

Ай бұрын

Best pacing and deuteragonist goes to naruto and power system is naruto but I could see bleach too, one piece takes animation cus it’s been the most consistent

@kristopherwillis8075

Ай бұрын

I like this 😌

yo rob, just wanna say thankyou for reading all the comments all the time, we really appreciate that :)

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

No doubt! Thanks for always watching and showing love!

@Lucifer-pc6jg

Ай бұрын

​@@ShonenShowdown yo Rob I'm kinda confused on something. I hope you see this. Why are stands highly rated but not quirks ? I don't think there's a big difference. Both are based on luck unless I'm missing something.

@Mathis-pr3dm

Ай бұрын

@@Lucifer-pc6jg i think stands are just more broken, look at time stop and giorno stands for example

@Lucifer-pc6jg

Ай бұрын

@@Mathis-pr3dm yeah but broken doesn't mean better tho. The same logic applies here there's nothing someone with a shitty stand can do against someone with a broken stand

I like how Tracy is the only unbiased one of the three

They try so hard not to say Bleach lmao, to me it just proves how truly underrated Bleach is because I believe it's the best outta the big 3 but you see so many anime/manga channels barely mentioning it

@Swagjutsusolosfiction

Ай бұрын

Because it's not the best in the big three😂😂that's why

@simonchen7452

Ай бұрын

Tru, but rob at least trying to

@prynce.

Ай бұрын

@@Swagjutsusolosfiction oh it is

@yaJA._.

Ай бұрын

@@prynce.what makes it the best to you

@prynce.

Ай бұрын

@@yaJA._. everything from the characters, world building, character designs, the lore, the symbolism, the art, what more do you want?

The power is always fascinating. It really inspired me to think of my own for a manga series I'm working on.

Legendary Collaboration Fr

bleach gettin slept on consistently

I feel like this video is really good when you collab with people.

Podcast on memes and things ppl post about anime. Great stuff, it doesn’t get realer than this

They forget espada, full bring, bankai, volstandich transformation.

Rob tryna give some love to bleach is really nice, appreciate it.

Bleach underrated as always.

Regardless on how much I agree this was really fun to watch. Man you gotta love how everything changes when someone brings up luffy vs naruto😂, you can litteraly feel the air change and the pressire rising ahahaha

Love the collab, yall damn near the big 3

New here and I love this channel already! ❤️❤️

How is my man saying JJK is influenced by Naruto like wth Domain Expansions are LITERALLY Bankai on smaller scales. Gege Akutami himself said he's inspired by Bleach. If you remember Gojo getting sealed and you coinside it with Aizen getting sealed, it's similar af

@Swagjutsusolosfiction

Ай бұрын

Gege also stated he based gojos character off a naruto side character named tobito tobitake, he based megumi and yujis relationship of Naruto and Sasukes, and that gojo ain't on kakashis lvl. He also stated he was inspired by dragon ball and yuyu Hakusho along with hunter x hunter

13:14 No way you hit the sad music when he started talking about naruto 😭

You can't seal him since 12:04 he can control his soul to get out of the seal that's binding him and domain expansion won't work since he can regenerate the damage and he can fight even if his brain is fried

The Bleach disrespect

@The.King.In.Black.

Ай бұрын

Not disrespect, just personal preference You can think bleach is better, i can think one piece is better

@Johnny24-dl3ig

9 күн бұрын

A s it should. The worst of the big 3 btw

@kyng_spade

9 күн бұрын

@@Johnny24-dl3ig Bleach > Naruto

@Johnny24-dl3ig

9 күн бұрын

@@kyng_spade Nope

@kyng_spade

9 күн бұрын

@@Johnny24-dl3ig OG Naruto was peak but Shippuden just didn't capture the feel of the original

y’all did bleach dirty bro 😭 bleach has the best villains,OST,art,transformations (debatable asf) and VERY hot take but MC too.

@Nagoto_Uzumaki

Ай бұрын

Naruto has the better villian, ost. I agree transformation is debatable, but other than Ichigo transformation, I think rest aren’t that good tbh (I’m an anime only btw for Bleach)

Bleach directly is stated to have inspired Gege with JJK. Iirc it also inspired Black Clover and a few others. Also has tons of other great villains. Almost no one in the other series is as sinister as Tsukishima with how he messed with the MC on a personal level. Ginjo being a what if version of Ichigo, Grimmjow bringing out Ichigo's true self and eve Ulqiorra being a morale battle for Ichigo.

Madara manipulated the whole world thinking he was alive the whole time. And madara doesn't need to hallucinate anyone to do it.

@kelvinallen9327

Ай бұрын

That was obito. And he needed a "mask" to do it 👍

@XxDream_CasterxX

Ай бұрын

@@kelvinallen9327 all in madara's plan not obito's

@micah459

Ай бұрын

Who also got outsmarted and killed by Zetsu?

@kavonuhidk-yq3er

Ай бұрын

Aizen typing

@neko-arcsburner5010

Ай бұрын

didn’t he get tricked and killed by obito? ☠️☠️☠️ couldn’t be aizen lmaoo

Wsg Rob I've been pretty early lately it's been good to see you

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

What’s up?! You really early haha

@THEMilesMorales

Ай бұрын

@@ShonenShowdown I've been chilling man wbu

This was a STELLAR collab. Tracy and Jared clashing with each other was very entertaining with Rob as the mediator, with a bit of sneaky spices to throw into the mix. Loved it overall

Black clover was more inspired by bleach I thought

@mufeezsyed2664

Ай бұрын

It is because the author himself said so. The reason why naruto fans feel that bc copies naruto because both the shows have japanese lore in it ( amaterasu or susanoo these are just the Japanese gods in general) and when bc author uses it naruto fans take the credit 😂

@WieldMyWord

Ай бұрын

@@mufeezsyed2664 lol that is crazy, then naruto copied Pokemon since one pokemon there is called Ninetales and its inspired by the mythical being taken from Chinese mythology. 🤣

Tracy was wild for that father joke😂

I've seen a lot of comments about bleach. I've watched the anime but haven't read the manga. This is the time for the anime to shine when it comes back. It better make quite the impression.

Crazy how undead unluck is over 200 chapter yet people know so little about it. Andy with every negator ability would be insanely busted

I'm not gonna lie they did Ichigo with every Bankai dirty. That's Ichigo with existence erasure, immortality, making everyone fight each other while thinking he;s their ally, control of the color black plus a 10 times boost per Bankai, he is definitely a match for Goku.

18:54 wow.. even after naruto finished in 2017, they still think naruto has the best fight compare to the other two big 3 ... now that is something..

@WieldMyWord

Ай бұрын

yeah its kinda wild considering after JJK and demon slayer, the animation expectation is much higher than it has ever been. Even the high points of the animation in naruto are common animation today.

What you said about quirks same can be for devil fruit there are lots of useless devil fruit out there. One thing I like about quirks how technical they are.

@WieldMyWord

Ай бұрын

devil fruits are just like pokemon, fire beats grass and water beats fire, its a fine power system but its very basic and broken once the logia types became a thing and Oda realized it was an stupid idea and went with haki to neglect everything.

Bruh the hate on Bleach was insane.... Character design, transformations its Bleach easily, not just on the Big 3 but Bleach is undeniably Top 3 best character design in any shonen.

@do7685

Ай бұрын

Easily is a strong word, but i definitelyhear you. The resureccion forms and character designs go hard

@jaswanthvardireddy2243

Ай бұрын

Problem is they aren’t very important to a good story

@do7685

Ай бұрын

@@jaswanthvardireddy2243 Lowkey true, but character design in bleach is definitley underrated. The arrancar resureccion's go hard

@jaswanthvardireddy2243

Ай бұрын

@@do7685 I wouldn’t say underrated, because they definitely deserve the praise because a lot of character designs go very hard

@ChrisMS0815

25 күн бұрын

One Piece looks too goofy to me to win character designs, Bleach has the best character designs easily.

A lot of the new gen series are inspired by bleach. Also I feel many anime fans forget too easily of the story of bleach. They barely remember anything outside of the first two major acts. You see influence of bleach especially in JJK. yuji and ichigo are literally similar in their goals to protect others, and are thrust into it after getting given power (sukuna/rukia). Plus they both aren’t fully human. Demon slayer is basically bleach but set in a different time period, and chainsaw man has similarities with the devils in comparison to hollows. Similar with curses too.

This one bouta be good

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

Yessir!!

@idk._.636

Ай бұрын

@@ShonenShowdownCbr made a new article "top 10 strongest anime characters kaiju no.8 could beat" is crazy u need to make a video about it

Ngl I would be lying if I said yall aren’t biased but overall great vid tbh

The end was so funny😂

Love how only tracey luaghed when he brought up his dad

W video brooo!

I can not stand by as they continue to speak the utter lie that Black Clover is more inspired by Naruto. Black Clover has 3 main inspirations, Dragon Ball, Bleach, and Berserk with Yu yu hakusho thrown in.

Ichigo with every bankai might actually WIN in a battle like this, since every bankai gets a 10x stat amp, which might actually close the gap between Ichigo, and Goku statwise, and since I believe Ichigo goes up to start of DBS before it's game over, and Adult Ichigo being needed to go further in the DB verse... it's not TOO much of a stretch for the gap to close in this one specific instance. In addition to all the absurd hax all Bankai have. If Ichigo doesn't win...he's at least EASILY second place, almost every single bankai is just so fucking broken, and Ichigo is easily the most powerful person presented in this picture behind Goku normally in the first place.

As some caught up to the Manga of Undead Unluck, Andy has become even more OP. Here are some major spoilers, The dude has mastered a soul manipulation technique and now can fight with his soul even if his body is captured/immobile and directly attack opponents souls. He was chilling on Sun(Fire slowed his regeneration in early series) for Billions of years while using his soul technique to hold back 10 of the strongest UMA/rules in the series(including death,luck,change etc.). He can create copies and send his copy to Earth from Sun to fight a villain. The panel of Andy sitting on the Sun goes really really hard. One of the best.He is certainly very strong and unkillable unless we talk really OP characters.

@anirule6833

Ай бұрын

Goddamn it. It seems like the only way to really kill Andy besides sealing is some other ability to completely negate/destroy his. Or use hakai from dragon ball.

@shauryadeshwal7368

Ай бұрын

@@anirule6833 The only way to kill him is to have higher level of Reality Warping powers that can take away his Undead ability or Just override it. Also, he can easily adapt to the technique that does not kill him instantly.

@spark3238

Ай бұрын

lucius can erase him from the timeline. any otsusuki can teleport him to an empty dimension.

@shauryadeshwal7368

Ай бұрын

@@spark3238 He is currently 1 v 10 against the Master Rules that include Rule of Death,Luck,Time,Change,Soul etc. If the embodiment of Time cannot kill him or the death itself, then I doubt Lucious's time Magic will work.

@spark3238

Ай бұрын

@@shauryadeshwal7368 Lucius can remove him from timeline it will be like he was never born. I doubt Andy can negate that

If I had to send a new gen characters after Andy I would send Shiki from Edens Zero. What's he gonna do against someone who can send him to space?

@baz9910

Ай бұрын

Spoilers Andys currently been sat on the sun for about 4.6 billion years so you need more than that

@DeadHaremGuy

Ай бұрын

@@baz9910 Ok, So Shinra would probably be a better choice good to know.

the bleach disrespect is crazy

@simonchen7452

Ай бұрын

That’s wut I’m saying

@cmack1889

Ай бұрын

can always count on it 😂

@neko-arcsburner5010

Ай бұрын

them putting naruto transformations over bleach is insane. the bias is so clear

@za-ir5ni

Ай бұрын

It's deserved. Stay mad.

@neko-arcsburner5010

Ай бұрын

@@za-ir5ni literally has the best anime adaption what are you on about

Rob organize part 4 asap

Gojo, Kenjaku, and Sukuna jumping him. Gojo is popping his domain. Andy gonna be stuck. and they gonna use the prison realm

Andy has never been erased completely no piece left

The Haki gas is crazy. There's no individuality to Haki. Everyone's Haki does basically the same thing. And that thing 99% of the time is just hit Harder. If you're lucky it's a little bit of precog. Precog + Hit Harder is literally all of Haki, and those are both things that exist in every power system to some extent.

@TheWildCard2k

Ай бұрын

That's majority of power system the difference is that it depends on on the characters using it and the mindset of said characters and the level of strenth that they face throughout there journey haki is a physical proof of how strong a characters grow and you can't train your haki you can only get it stronger by extreme diffs fights and haki bloom

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

Currently it looks like there’s much more stuff to explore when it comes to Haki. Shanks was shown to kill future sight. Then, there are different applications of Ryuo and conquerors that are showing each chapter

@cjcj4861

Ай бұрын

​@@ShonenShowdownyeah good content but I choose Hunter x Hunter everybody down play their characters that's why I choose it it's about time for you guys to start respecting Hunter x Hunter is now does anime / manga series coming back

@cjcj4861

Ай бұрын

​@@ShonenShowdownyeah good content but I choose Hunter x Hunter everybody down play their characters that's why I choose it it's about time for you guys to start respecting Hunter x Hunter is now does anime / manga series coming back

@gandalfissus

Ай бұрын

Facts

18:46 yall forgot about tokinada

When we going to stop giving Naruto credit for something that was inspired by Bleach, the author of JJK literally stated in a interview the JJK is inspired by Bleach, that Todo was inspired by Kenpachi but somehow we keep giving Naruto credit….. even the captains from Black Clover were inspired by the captains from Bleach…. Bleach has inspired a lot more New Gen anime than Naruto has, it’s just how these anime’s present them it looks like Naruto….. even Gojo was inspired by Urahara not Kakashi.

Love the TYBW fights but ngl old bleach fight were better. The Tybw fight in the manga made em seems a lot longer than what we actually got there wasn't much back and forth like with the espadas. Once the captains got stronger it was easy for them ngl. Yhwach and the royal guard were the only ones who really seem like threats.

The Best: Alchemy, Nen, Stands. Great: Reiryoku, Cursed Energy, Devil Fruits/Haki (they're way too interrelated to consider separately, and you can't appreciate their brilliance until you grok that), Mana. Good: Quirks, Fear, Magic, Magical Power, Limiter, Chakra. Okay: Pokemon, Breathing Style, Ki. Mid: Titan Shifting, Ignition. I confess, I really don't give the Admirals much credit. Garp and Sengoku are the only ones to really stand out as impressive to me. But the really important thing is that Teach has that whack perversion of the Will of D going on. That's what truly makes him endgame, not any powerscaling. I dunno, dattebayo/believe it might give bankai a run for its money. I'm still gonna take bankai as the most iconic though. It's not just JJK that can seal Andy. Cosmic Garou's time manipulation can erase him as well, for example. Imma give Bleach the villains and transformations, and One Piece the emotional impact. Naruto takes deuteragonist by virtue of the category being created for it. I could quibble on some other points, but there aren't any hills I'll die on. Again, I'm not gonna die on any hills here. You really need to be careful with your definitions. Goku's base power level and accompanying hax resistance puts him on another level, but what really lets him solo is his speed. Saitama's combination of power and speed puts him as runner up, followed by Ichigo and Naruto (with Shibai BS).

Love the vids Rob keep up the great work. I do feel like Bleach ain't getting enough love tho like tybw by itself has better animation and art than anything I've seen in Naruto or One Piece, and Bleach's sound design is really unmatched, Outside of just Aizen and Ywach villains like Ulquiorra and Grimmjow were both amazing and flushed out in their own right, I definetly feel their character designs are the best(that's really just personal opinion this is very subjective), and the female cast for Bleach was so underrated its insane on both the hero and villain side.

@simonchen7452

Ай бұрын

Truuuuu. Also bleach fasho got most influence on new gen of the big 3.

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

I did try to bring up Grimmjow too, trust haha

@hypergogeta13

Ай бұрын

@@ShonenShowdown I did peep that lol, much love man your vids been getting me through my junior year of hs fr

@hypergogeta13

Ай бұрын

@@simonchen7452 I forgot to mention that but yea fs

@Swagjutsusolosfiction

Ай бұрын

Calling the women underrated is crazy. When people say orhime solos both one piece and Naruto. They say bleach has the best women in the best and some of the best in anime. That's not underrated in the slightest

Okay my hot take about Blackbeard, I don't think he's the final villain. I think he both literally and figuratively drowns in his own ambition. They said that during the time skip he's been going around collecting devil fruits and selecting the perfect fruits for his crew. I think there's some kind of obstacle to get to Laughtale and that's the reason Shanks crew can all swim and when Teach hits it he isn't going to have one person on his crew who can swim. I think he's going to drown because of his unquenchable thirst for power.

Honestly the only power system I think it's mid is the one from Shaman king. None can become stronger unless they die and revive or reincarnate, which is very inconvenient.

I would put stands down on the power system listem, the rules are too inconsistent sometimes.

I feel like anos sinbad and all the powerful characters don’t appear in these videos and I feel like those would be more funnier debates

I feel like andy beats gojo, even when hit by his domain bc 1) Andy can probably regenerate his brain (if it would contribute to his death) 2) Andy is shown to move without using his brain (he has soul manipulation) 3) Even if he is immobilized whats gojo gonna do to him he can't die Andy can (probably) bypass infinity by using astral projection or some other soul shenanigans Andy is many times faster than light (his finger can travel from the sun to the earth in minutes) Idk abt andy's strength feats but he is very versatile and basically has unlimited blood manipulation.

In MHA, we've known that having a bad quirk isn't the be-all and end-all for a character. Mirio literally exists and shows us that.

Problem with Andy is that from what I know, he negates anything that he considers as death. So even when he gets completely erased and he consideres this as dying, he negates it. I might be wrong tho so don't take my word for it.

@royalfun1031

Ай бұрын

Makes sense

@royalfun1031

Ай бұрын

Willpower

Putting Haki in 'Ok'-tier as a system is outrageous. 🤯

for villains how was the most hyped up person in naruto defeated by a fucking asspull kaguya

I dont see sabo fighting blackbeard properly cause the revs have their goals on the god knights gorosei and now imu. Sabo wouldnt do an ace and potentially fumble the main mission for some quick revenge

One piece the only anime that can make me cry over a ship.

Quickly reminder, what Mihawk said about Luffy, Tsunade said the same about Naruto in the og series

One Rasengan Uzuhiko and Andy is done, also Boruto can technically seal him or bring him to another dimension

Hey what’s up Rob!?😎

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

Yoo what’s up!

26:36 they too scared to add all stands🤣It would be so unfair if the did

23:13 bro luffy can just imagine he will win and its over

yall had to show that clip 19:47

It’s crazy it feels like your cohosts are bleach haters and it started when they said reiatsu should be knocked down but said nothing about chakra which💀

I think bleach influences the most new gens however good vid overall

@Swagjutsusolosfiction

Ай бұрын

It only inspired black clover, demon slayer, and jjk. Naruto inspired kagurabachi, jjk, blue exorcist, and a few more underrated anime that I don't feel like typing

@naughtyNuGetzz23

20 күн бұрын

@@Swagjutsusolosfictionman said bleach only inspired 3 insanely massive series 💀 bleach won that bro let it go

Not trynna sound bias here, but Ichigo with every bankai is crazy OP. He can literally freeze existence, and with his speed he wouldn't get speed blitzt easily. That is only 1 of 100s of bankai. And there are also a lot of new gen anime inspired by bleach. Not saying the other 2 didn't influence any new gen, but if we look at new gen authors and what they have said, we can come to an conclusion that Bleach inspired many of them. Some authors have even admitted that their main inspiration was Bleach. Still an AMAZING video ❤❤❤ keep up your vids. Much love

In the end I feel like Ichigo wins it, Raw power no Goku has it but like every bankai is crazy, Like Shinji's Bankai just makes it bs and combine it with Hirofude Ichimonji, Benihime Aratame, Katen Kyokutsu Karamtsu Shinju, Ichigo's True Bankai, Zanka No Tachi and pther solid support bankai and stuff Ichigo's got far too much hax he wins I mean Goku is the only one in debate otherwise everybody else just kill each other by Shinji's Bankai usage.

ichigo with every bankai would definitely win, shinji's bankai alone, ichigo can just watch them fight each other and can the last one standing survive the surface of the sun if their power/name was changed to an ant or mosquito? They really be sleeping on bleach

The big 3 are goated and forever will be. My personal preference is one piece > bleach > naruto but all 3 are 10/10

On an emotional level I feel that Naruto is the greatest.

Mate i gotta say, i think some of your takes are terrible but i fkn love this channel

@ShonenShowdown

Ай бұрын

That’s what it’s all about haha!! Some days we’ll agree and some we won’t

Bro sabo deadass says he holds no grudges for what happened to ace so saying sabo hates akainu more than luffy does is crazy

tbh i expected it to be just a debate between naruto and one one piece bleach is just its own thing ad thats what i like about it that y its my fave in the big three and aizen over madara every time of the day

@Swagjutsusolosfiction

Ай бұрын

Yhwach is better. Aizen is boring, he has no character development and just one of the middest characters and is only liked because he manipulated everyone and you didn't see it coming, and for stoping ichigo theme song. While Madara has a bad voice, badass quotes, abilities, design(but aizen is better looking) and he actually killed the main 2 most important characters in the show plus was made too strong that the main protagonist even after getting a bs god lvl power up still stood no chance. But pain and yhwach are still better than both

@JohnSmith-wr4rp

Ай бұрын

@@Swagjutsusolosfiction my opinion is different from yours i like the quincy king but i still prefer aizen

@Itwassimplyapartofmyplan

Ай бұрын

@@Swagjutsusolosfiction how is yhwach better than aizen yhwach didn't even have character development aizen has mastered a whole lot of kido his shikai is op design is clean and had good quotes plus manipulation villains are just op as hell

@jaswanthvardireddy2243

Ай бұрын

@@Itwassimplyapartofmyplanaizen has no development either

@Itwassimplyapartofmyplan

Ай бұрын

@@jaswanthvardireddy2243 yeah but shows u can be a good villain without a back story

26:40 1. Ichigo every bankai 2. Goku every ki attack 3. Saitama every ability 4. Naruto every jutsu 5. Fairytale every magic 6. Asta every magic(if he can still use anti magic) 7. Luffy every df 8. Deku every quirk 9. Yuji every cursed technique 10. Andy every negetor ability 11. Yusuke every sprit attack 12. Ed unlimited philosopher stone

@jackmakila3776

Ай бұрын

Goku its not even close

@KuraiCelestial

Ай бұрын

@@jackmakila3776ichigo’s haxes could win

@dragonrulerbaby7926

Ай бұрын

why andy that low?

@furryfloofer8742

Ай бұрын

@@jackmakila3776 Each bankai has a 10x stat multiplier, it might actually close the stat gap between Ichigo, and Goku, in addition to just how broken all bankai are in general.. Ichigo was easily the most powerful fighter outside Goku in a normal fight anyway, and goes up to start of DBS before needing adult Ichigo to go further.

Bleach is arguably most inspiring in big 3 but it inspired mangakas they are not dumb as some shonen kids who didn't even understand bleach writing ☠️ Bleach and hxh clears in Inspiring and influence

As an Undead Unluck manga reader there are many character in new gen shonen that could beat Andy, although most of the ones I know are Black Clover characters because that's the new gen I know most about. Ngl Anime Sundays is dead wrong about Bleach antagonists but i can't really explain their character without going into manga spoilers sooooooooo.

10:00 if they said Victhor instead of Andy it’s a different story