The whole “vibe” discussion just destroyed my brain cells

@TheIceman101418

3 ай бұрын

Connor doesn't know what it means, he just like word. Monkey say thing feel good, monkey don't know how to describe. Lol

@Sharkofspace

3 ай бұрын

@@TheIceman101418 Connor is just one of those people who doesn't like to think. I don't mean that as an insult, but that's a pretty consistent thing with him. He knows when he likes the thing or doesn't like the thing, but he doesn't care enough to think about why. For example: he infamously said music is just noise despite clearly enjoying music. He's just using the word "Vibe" because he doesn't know how to articulate his feelings. It's basically the same as if someone asked him why he liked something and he responded with "I just do."

@martindang7333

3 ай бұрын

@@Sharkofspace I disagree. He is very smart and articulate and I'm sure he'd find a way to articulate his thoughts if he felt the need. The entire point of his argument is that reasoning out what makes a story good is not neccesary. What matters is what emotions/atmosphere/vibe are evoked, not pedantics about plot, story, themes etc.(these terms are very inconsistent every time they're used). In the end of the day all these concepts serve to describe the emotions art creates in us, at least in mine and prob connors view, which btw is not a simplistic view and indeed corresponds to one of the core beliefs of existentialism(existence before essence). I would say he is trying not to be overly pedantic about art, because thats what art truly is to him. He would be in great company , since most artists think intuitively about art as opposed to how academics and critics view art. That makes sense since out of the 3 he is most concerned with creative pursuits (garnt and joey are primarily critics). His view is completely valid and in no way inferior to a more analytic view of art.

@ultrapat23

3 ай бұрын

@@martindang7333 Great point. The "vibe" is like your own taste in art. Subjective and unique to you.

@Optimatum

3 ай бұрын

@@martindang7333 I agree with this. Joey and Garnt's points are that you can pinpoint a specific factor of the art style or the plot or the music that quantifies the vibe. But Connor's point is that it doesn't boil down to any one of those factors, it's your initial gut reaction to the work (the vibe) that quantifies your experience. The whole is not the sum of its parts.

“What did you like about this manga” Connor: The vibe “Okay. But what specifically” Connor: The vibe “Like the art, the story, or-“ Connor: The vibe

@Wowzival

3 ай бұрын

That's a vibe

@SaffronRice

3 ай бұрын

He’s so real for that

@KeacePeeper

3 ай бұрын

Monke activated.

@knaveofsouls6080

3 ай бұрын

Joey pointed out things on what makes a manga or anime compelling, and this guy just says vibe. He discuss about art and then when asked what's an art, he can't even explain what an art is, even on his own standards. This casual should not be in this panel.

@logicss2893

3 ай бұрын

​@@knaveofsouls6080honestly as an artist, i agree with connor it doesnt really have to mean anything, its your view of the art, when i create "art" i dont really think about what it means, its just how i feel about something.

The talk about what a vibe is and art without humans has to be simultaneously the most insightful and most frustrating conversation I have ever listened to involving these guys.

@neworecneps

3 ай бұрын

It's very "I am 14 and this is deep" territory.

@TheIceman101418

3 ай бұрын

Sometimes Connor in a nutshell. Lol

@ddayyou

3 ай бұрын

It was hilarious I wished it never ended 😂

@Personified134

3 ай бұрын

They just didn't have the right vocabulary to convey what they were trying to say, "vibes" based mood pieces are a very normal and respected style in plenty of mediums.

@ohhh_wenhasfun

3 ай бұрын

Bone in and boneless was even more frustrating

The way Connor start speaking like a cult leader the moment they started talking about THE vibe is insane

For those who don't know in the subreddit the mod said that the awards will be in the middle of may because the boys are on vacation and this ep is prerecorded

@steely4729

3 ай бұрын

Thx bro

@Atlasgaming2106

3 ай бұрын

Ahhh makes sense. Thx bro

@Jimmy-Mc

3 ай бұрын

Kind if low effort, but fine

@experimentalnub

3 ай бұрын

@@Jimmy-Mctbf Connor just finished biking so

@controlcon

3 ай бұрын

​@@Jimmy-Mcbrother they're overseas, the fk you want them to do? fly back to Japan?

I love listening to these idiots just waffling. Feels like a night out with your lads when no one makes any sense. Super grateful for this podcast, I can't say I've ever stumbled upon other content creators who capture this feeling as well :)

I love how mudan edit the podcast. The beginning of this video is so funny!

Nominating "The Vibe" for a new Trash Taste Awardw category - The Confusion Award

@kulkuljator

3 ай бұрын

Or the monkey brain award

@blank9789

3 ай бұрын

Hell nah it made perfect sense to me 😤

@Marnige

2 ай бұрын

@@blank9789 Connor isnt hard to understand, because his definition of anything is all surface level in its raw form. If a person cannot explain what they like about the anime, they will just think "I just vibe with it". But in reality, there is of course a reason, any reason that makes you vibe with a medium. Exactly why connor refers to music as beeps and boops. He's actually the definition of monke and doesnt really think deeper on topics like this.

I swear "the vibe" is a fucking all time legendary segment imo

@hysteriaval

3 ай бұрын

its just joey and garnt disagreeing with connor but actually agreeing with him without realizing it

@DDD_Tinker

3 ай бұрын

The word that Connor should've used is catharsis loll would've made the conversation much simpler lmaoo

@zacurrya9485

3 ай бұрын

Kind of sounded like Connor was just saying one piece makes him feel nothing but it's a good story

@JewJitSuSixty9

3 ай бұрын

​@hysteriaval that's literally what they did lmao every counter point they laid out against him was everything he already said or agreed with and yet they still said he was wrong 😂 like they wanted to argue for no reason. He was basically saying everyone has their own personal vibe on a subject that may affect their way of thinking

@ayyanmirza7095

3 ай бұрын

​@@JewJitSuSixty9 he was describing it like he was talking about the art style and he mentioned that like three times.

41:22 Garnt drinking week old water & the slow realization of what he's done destroyed me lmaoo

@crocoboi7936

3 ай бұрын

Yo jaxblade big fan!

This was such an enjoyable episode. Please do more anime and manga episodes. Maybe you guys can talk about specific anime and manga you've all seen? 😊

The mistake conor made with the "vibe" explanation is that he kept switching back and forth from it being a subjective thing to an objective thing. That's why Joey and Garnt were confused.

@Mellow_Yellow13

3 ай бұрын

I agree with this. Like when he said One Piece didn’t have a vibe. I wouldn’t consider it a series with strong vibes, which is what I think he was trying to say when he said its main strength was its story and world-building, it definitely has some vibes. I’d argue its vibe is the wacky humor. But anyway, I think if he had just said he didn’t really enjoy One Piece for its vibes that he would not confused them.

@TheIceman101418

3 ай бұрын

Connor doesn't know the difference between those two words, lol. Hard concepts for monkey, lol

@HapPawhere

3 ай бұрын

@@Mellow_Yellow13 He said the vibe because he got One Piece Video, so he need to keep hype it up LOL Connor can just cancel reading One Piece just like Joey did if he did not enjoy it

@AliceLycoris

3 ай бұрын

also because he kept saying The Vibe, as if its a single unchanging entity that requires a proper noun. If he said "an individual story's vibes" I think everyone would understand what he means.

@gurdimeikenskjaldi5060

3 ай бұрын

I agree. On a side I agree with him on things like they can't be quantified etc, on the other side I'm with them: he's way too much doublestandard in determining what vibes are and if there are or not. In that way one can use the term for everything and nothing :| Like: I agree with that thing about every panel in Berserk having powerful vibes, but "vibes" aren't some esoteric power, they aren't there cause the page has midichlorians or the ink was made by some mysterious isotope that emanates "vvvvvibes". The vibes are conveyed through the masterful way Miura used composition, lineart, portrayal of motion, design, etc. They aren't thing that can be quantified in numbers, but they are thing you can determine and analyze, they aren't some nebulous "VVVVVVIIIIBEEEES!" xD

"The episode they filmed 20 mins ago" as mentioned by Joey, is 196 .

@grodymakes

3 ай бұрын

It's funny cuz that's ep they talk bout Toriyama

@andromedamnn

3 ай бұрын

​@@grodymakes this guy is just lying for no reason 😭😭

@ryana5435

3 ай бұрын

@@andromedamnn you mean op? If you looked at their clothes, 196 is the episode with highest possibility and relevance

@andromedamnn

3 ай бұрын

@@ryana5435 oh no I was referring to joey

@SownJevan

3 ай бұрын

@@andromedamnn what's the lying part?

Joey was so based talking about shoujo. Yes we need more shoujo rep!!!!

@DarkTemPLar1994

3 ай бұрын

I'm surprised that no one mentioned Fruits Basket there, or that it wasn't high up on either Top rated or most popular lists. It's one of the most recognizable Shoujo manga, also outside the usual audience for the genre, and it had a big boost of popularity thanks to the new anime. Hell, last season of Fruba was even on the #1 spot for a while after it ended.

I think that conversation about the vibe is the exact vibe of this podcast, Crazy and chaotic!

When Connor's talking about "vibe", he seems to be talking about a work's tone or atmosphere and the art style that provides that. For the "art" description, me and my art professor discussed about it. "Art" is a human-made creative expression through a medium. It's why scenery or objects that are naturally created by nature rather than humans don't count as art just because it looks "beautiful".

@_ch1pset

3 ай бұрын

Strictly speaking, I think he means vibe as in, his emotional connection to a piece of work. Although, it's definitely different from how you would use the word in "good vibes" and "bad vibes", which is more about tone I think. To Connor's point, there doesn't seem to be a single definition of "vibe".

@oceanicGrimalkin

3 ай бұрын

@@_ch1pset Emotional connection can also be due to the tone/atmosphere. If that's the case, then Connor's meaning of "vibes" would be too vague. Even people are arguing about what he meant.

@samuraijosh1595

3 ай бұрын

@@_ch1pset very simple: Berserk vibes: lonely formidable warrior guts companionship of puck and his antics creepy souls and demons dark and gloomy weather (often) even if a Berserk episode was super slice of life and fillerish, you would be able to enjoy it because it has set such an immersive atomsphere. And this is what he meant when he was pointing to a random Berserk panel, it's pure unique vibes at play. Meanwhile people literally make episode lists of skippable OP filler cuz its boring lol. You can't watch OP without at least a mini story(episodic) or some small advancement in the over arching story.

@Marnige

2 ай бұрын

@@_ch1pset You cannot define what makes something a vibe, because it is subjective. But vibe is using human instinct and gut feeling to describe something, and that gut feeling of what makes something look good or feels good to you does have a basis behind it.

Clearly this episode was to give us more options for "Worst Take" and "I Made it the Fuck Up" awards.

This was definitely an all time Trash Taste episode. Arguably up there with the boneless chicken one.

I actually liked that discussion about the art and vibe. Yeah its gonna open up a big worm hole. But that's what trash taste it about. A tangent which leads to the darkest time line or a talk about completely different topic than you ever imagined. Kinda like drawing yourself a dream car and ending up a nuclear missile rocket with infinite food glitch.

I like how Garnt is so used to their BS that he just goes silent and picked up his phone when they were talking about "Bean Piss"

@ryana5435

3 ай бұрын

oh so "bean piss" is what they keep talking at the beginning and got bleeped by Mudan?

@sruto

3 ай бұрын

@@ryana5435 piss isnt even a word that youtube hates, why did he censor it lmao

@mateogarcia5978

3 ай бұрын

Better safe then sorry.

@mustard_moth

3 ай бұрын

​@@srutoIIRC, they have mentioned in previous episodes that youtube thoroughly checks first 15-20 minutes for obscene/curse words, so they try to tone down their british/australian sides for that time period

@balabanasireti

3 ай бұрын

I feel the same way when he shares his "reviews"

In an attempt to help Connor try to understand what "Vibe" is Vibe is basically STYLE. And it's not limited to art style. Style can be fashion direction, cinematography (how the panel is sliced/framed), music direction, etc etc. You, Connor, happen to like dark + cool + violent vibes, which lines up perfectly with Berserk. One Piece's vibes are silly + fun vibes. And yes, slice of life stuff ALSO HAS A VIBE. Chill vibes. Stuff like Domestic Kanojo and Kuzu no Honkai has a vibe. Angsty vibe. Yes, "Vibe" can be quantified, but not by the average laymen. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

@albertl5444

3 ай бұрын

Yes it called feelings. Connor feels happy and enjoyable when he saw something with dark, violent, cool stuff.

@yarion4774

3 ай бұрын

In my understanding, it's supposed to be any kind of underlying composition that creates atmosphere and enhances or convey underlying themes. This does not require the characters as agents of the story to do anything in particular to invoke an emotional response. My latest example would be Boy and the Heron. The movie is a very simple story for the fundamental plot. But there are so many aspects to the millions of details that create underlying themes that are hard to grasp without external context. Thus it creates a vibe that doesn't rely on the plot of the movie to move in this direction. BUT I think it's a very different thing for evefy medium due to the qualities of each medium. Anime has different dimensions such as time which makes pacing of moment to moment situations more relevant. While manga has a pacing on the bigger the scale, the flow of panels and the way how much is portrqyed in the limited pages. But a reader is the one dictating the amount of time they view each page. So every page can become a painting to observe and "vibe" with. And then there is the entire aspect of systems theory and cybernetics but that's going too deep. Media student out.

@st.lucient4755

3 ай бұрын

​@@albertl5444 Yes, he is using the word to represent "I'm into this type of stuff" But he sadly dismissed that things outside of what he likes are also Vibes. Just not his kind of vibes, I hope I explained it in an easy to understand manner

@st.lucient4755

3 ай бұрын

​@@yarion4774 Found the fellow media person lol And yes. It can be something as simple as a "pause" in certain scenes. Some movie/anime will just blaze through a convo, but then you find those shows that do dramatic pauses with excellent results and feel "Damn, that's so vibe when the music stopped as he paused before saying 'I loved you' " or something It is everything as a package, the combination of fashion, music, art style, camera work, timing, but not focused on the story/character action itself. For example, a show can be about the horrors of WW2, but if you use comedic vibe with silly cuts and upbeat BGM, you get a completely different product.

@st.lucient4755

3 ай бұрын

To anyone interested, I think the best publicly documented case of controlling the vibe to a perfect degree that you can in essence ORDER your audience to cry on cue, is Kimi No Na Wa / Your Name. Of course, it affects each person in varying degrees, but a good writer/director has always been able to quantify what to do/include in order to make the audience feel certain ways

Wake up babe new trash taste episode just dropped Also, for those who are not on reddit, they decided to delay the annual trash taste awardw because the bois have been busy. So look forward to that in a few weeks!

@ryana5435

3 ай бұрын

More in details, cuz the boys have been super busy with the Cyclethon, and they’re going to be in Australia for Dreamhack at the end of the month, so with all the travel they’re doing they didn't have enough time to get everything setup according to Alex in sub pinned post

@balabanasireti

3 ай бұрын

Cringe

@DrLigma1010

3 ай бұрын

​@@balabanasiretigonna cry?

Congrats on 200 episodes! Also, this video kept reminding me of my favorite Filthy Frank line: I'll always be one step ahead of you... cause I read the manga ~

The whole "vibe" and schrodinger's art arguments had my head spinning.

42 mins in but this has been an one of the funniest eps i've watched period. Garnt drinking weeks old water after almost moving on from the vibes conversation (instant classic) just destroyed me

Listening to a discussion about "vibe" devolving [evolving?] into a metaphysical discussion about the relation of the human mind to reality is a peak moment.

28:50 god that discussion on vibes made my day

"Vibe" is a noun that describes a distinctive feeling or quality that can be sensed. It can also refer to the character, quality, or atmosphere of a place or situation. here ya go meaning for vibe

@___________0Z0X

13 күн бұрын

Booooo!!!!!!!

200 straight weeks of non stop trash taste, almost 4 years and it's still as entertaining if not more, you gotta respect this consistency

@monkey39128

3 ай бұрын

Definitely feel like it's improved over time. Just gets funnier and funnier.

@jeremywerts7198

3 ай бұрын

🤨

@balabanasireti

3 ай бұрын

They became unoriginal and boring to me

@jjthomson2815

3 ай бұрын

Fell off hard

@memphiskash

3 ай бұрын

almost 4 years is crazy it feels like the first episode of trash taste was like 6 months ago. sadge

When I was in year 12 my art teacher said that if we ever used the word vibe when trying to describe a piece of art she would throw us out of the classroom because it is a nonsense word with no tangible meaning and I feel like that is very relevant here.

@yarion4774

3 ай бұрын

That's very fair.

@MuntahaZad

3 ай бұрын

😂😂

@AJJ129

3 ай бұрын

what is she an art nazi? policing how one ought to speak about art? yes we can't just only say vibes but vibes is a valid response

@WieldMyWord

3 ай бұрын

@@AJJ129 Uneducated way of saying different elements that melds well together.

@awaitingconfirmation8406

3 ай бұрын

​@@WieldMyWordIt's a slang... And how is it uneducated when it literally describes what you said perfectly? A "vibe" is the felling you get from the way that all the elements of the piece work together to form a product greater than the sum of it's parts. I understand if that teacher just didn't like the word for whatever reason because the generation before never likes the slang of the generation that comes after but to say that "vibe" makes no sense or is an "uneducated" way of saying something is just wrong in my opinion. The word "cool" is an uneducated way to describe something you like and think is interesting and exiting, and also, it makes no sense since the thing you are referring too is not cold. Language changes and evolves over time, abbreviations and expressions are a natural product of that.

Connor: Everything has vibe. Does one-piece has vibe? Connor: No. Only mistake was Connor "vibe" explanation is that he kept switching back and forth from it being a subjective thing to an objective thing

They're all really on edge this episode and I love it haha

Takehiko Inoue is the GOAT. 49:24 to correct Joey, Real came out AFTER Vagabond started releasing so its actually the other way around. Inoue took a hiatus from writing Vagabond to write Real instead. Inoue has this sense of responsibility in maintaining an impossible perfectionist standard in regards to Vagabond so he writes Real as a break from his burnout working on Vagabond. Also it's not in "permanant hiatus". Real's latest chapter was released this February.

@LoveYourself-318

3 ай бұрын

bro was like, this thing so good i'm gonna ruin it if I keep going

@baoweexd

3 ай бұрын

​@@LoveYourself-318Nah fr. This guys standard is crazy. I remember there was a documentary of him working on a chapter of Vagabond behind the scenes and despite it releasing as a 10/10 chapter he was very unhappy with it. So much so he slammed his manuscript on the ground.

@shamans123

3 ай бұрын

Real is so goated. It gave me a new perspective on the lives of physically disabled people

@frog6054

3 ай бұрын

Real is a real masterpiece

@uurjitdebbbaasu7314

3 ай бұрын

Inoue definitely is a perfectionist when it comes to his work but I don’t mind it since it’s his passion that keeps him going and not monetary value in selling his work which I really despise when it comes to artists and creators.

Started rewatching the oldest trash taste episodes and have been watching since they originally came out. It’s weird seeing them change so little yet so much hard to describe it’s like their vibe has evolved a little.

Them being surprised stuff like Horimiya or Pandora Hearts were popular really tells you that they only started reading manga in recent years. When I was getting into reading manga back in the early 2010s, these were the manga that were recommended to me from looking up manga recommendations so its not really that surprising that they have a lot of members on MAL.

@shirleywong9954

3 ай бұрын

that's exactly how i felt abt them getting surprised over ao haru ride😭 (shoutout to joey for reading the shoujo classics and connor mentioning the female lead thing)

@ardrensc6630

3 ай бұрын

Joey has been reading manga since childhood so I don't think that's why. Popularity of certain things change and so people just forget really, that and these just might not be the stuff they're interested in.

@VectorCross

3 ай бұрын

@@ardrensc6630 I know he has. However these manga were popular at one point for people getting into reading manga in the West. Joey reading manga since childhood doesn't mean he knows what people found popular at the time.

@ardrensc6630

3 ай бұрын

@@VectorCross Exactly. Difference in environment and interests. Was just saying I didn't think it was due to how recently they started reading :)

@VectorCross

3 ай бұрын

@@ardrensc6630 It definitely still has to do with how recent they started reading. Joey is more an exception. Him reading manga in his childhood is no different from me reading some random series in a school library. Connor and Garnt are very much new to reading manga obviously. They had never even heard of Horimiya before its anime adaption yet MAL numbers which are mainly users from the West give a good idea of what was popular back then and why the number of users are so high. My original comment was explaining why these manga were popular. If they were scouring the internet at the time for manga recommendations in the early 2010s then they wouldn't be surprised.

The vibe and art convos are Connor’s “I feel” definitions without ever digging deeper into what either term means

Land of the Lustruous (Houseki no Kuni) deserves a lot more rep. Deserves to be on this list for sure. Shame none of the boys have read it. It's something that Garnt would definitely make a video on.

@SkeetWeet4368

3 ай бұрын

a lot of manga deserve a lot more rep tbh , stories like hnk , usogui , pandora hearts aren't very popular despite the fact that they have amazing writing

@HyperKryst

3 ай бұрын

​@@SkeetWeet4368 I feel like pandora hearts got quite a bit of rep back in the day, nowadays nobody mentions it or talks about it

@robotsmasher0007

3 ай бұрын

@@HyperKrystit had a lot of traction on tiktok the last year or two, people who make videos on manga on tiktok mention it

@Eukleides89

3 ай бұрын

Houseki no Kuni’s manga is so good but god is it also just pure depression

@animusswtor4822

3 ай бұрын

can't wait for the final chapter next week, I'mma do a re-read of the entire thing from the beginning on before it drops so I can be ready to be emotionally destroyed on an astronomical level

half expected this episode to be the trash taste awards

@Nosaka-Kun9599

3 ай бұрын

Yeah same

@shuraplays214

3 ай бұрын

Awardw* But yea same

@Lampredi4

3 ай бұрын

Awardw*

@kurolore

3 ай бұрын

Yeah What Happened

@nicolepuzines-matias3353

3 ай бұрын

Sad

I think a really interesting way to adapt a manga that is intrinsically tied with its unique art (such as berserk) is through neat little additions of impact frames. In the post-wano OP adaption you get little call backs to original panels and I think berserk has the potential to take that idea to a whole different level

I loved this whole episode. It was interesting, entertaining, and I got to learn about some other manga to check out. I'd love it if you guys read some shoujo manga or read their anime adaptations and gave your opinions.

52:57 Umineko is easily one of the best stories out there and is incredibly overlooked outside of the visual novel reader community. The manga adaptation is amazing too, which is why it’s rated highly. Extremely powerful and emotional journey, highly recommended for anyone who loves a good mystery.

@Wanderer-th4tt

3 ай бұрын

How tf are you already at 1h 😭

@SkeetWeet4368

3 ай бұрын

it also has the best female character in animanga

@Ash_Wen-li

3 ай бұрын

​@@SkeetWeet4368Who? Cause imo Beato, Ange and Eva are all contenders

@SkeetWeet4368

3 ай бұрын

@@Ash_Wen-li beato is on a whole different level imo , she's easily the best female character in animanga imo . whats your opinion on bernkastel

@HyperKryst

3 ай бұрын

Everybody that starts their journey with Umineko visual novel gets impacted by it in some way or another, this shit is so insanely good

I am still a very big user of MAL. Have been for more than 14 years now. At first (when I was younger) I was actually active on the forums and clubs, but for the past 10 years I have just mostly been using it to track and discover shows. I think a lot of people tend to be like that as well.

@TraditioTresor

3 ай бұрын

same here

@UNIT0918

3 ай бұрын

I only use it to save anime I enjoyed, because hell if I'm able to remember every good anime I watch in my brain!

@kotegawab

3 ай бұрын

Mal was godlike back then to track animes that I was watching between pirate sites and apps 🙏🙏🙏 even nowadays I still use It to track the longer mangas that I read

the Vibe talk almost had me screaming at my monitor. like he uses vibe like it's a mcguffin and when I hear all I can think of is the term brain rot.

To put real words to Connors Vibe argument, I kinda agree. A vibe can be anything and anywhere, if you're feeling the feels from it. A vibe could be a cool night at a bummy 711 gas station parking lot and a vibe can also be entering the world of different stories. It's the entirety of the Atomsphere that makes up a vibe. Color, tone, story, location, weather, feeling, and all them coming together. Thats what creates people's unique environment and if you enjoy that environment, that's your vibe. The hardest part in figuring out who you are as a character is narrowing down your vibe 🤙

Joey and Garnt failed the Vibe Check.

@SquareOstrich

3 ай бұрын

Nah they were making a good point, Connor had pretty much nothing to say so he just said vibe over and over

@Caleb-zl4wk

3 ай бұрын

​@@SquareOstrichnah the sheer people in the comments who got his idea alone bear witness to the fact that isn't true

@SquareOstrich

3 ай бұрын

@@Caleb-zl4wk Numbers mean nothing, he just thought something was cool and tried to spin it into something bigger that's all

@Caleb-zl4wk

3 ай бұрын

@@SquareOstrich I disagree but like... it's all good. Mb for sounding combative in that last comment, I forgot how exhausting doing this all over a comment section was lmao

@SquareOstrich

3 ай бұрын

@@Caleb-zl4wk Dw my dude, I like your vibe

Before clicking on this, I just knew none of them had read Land of the Lustrous, and I feel both validated and saddened.

@sempiternal9114

3 ай бұрын

real

@presidentricky

3 ай бұрын

it so unfortunate since hnk is so amazing

@lewomewo3480

3 ай бұрын

I hope they get into it at some point

18:10 is that where the "you thought this was a spoiler, but its me Dio!" Came from?

Someone please replace every time Connor says "the vibe" with the vine boom sound

This episode is such a vibe man

No trash taste awards? WHYYYY 😭😭😭😭 I've prepared my suit and wine for this episode.

@swiss0.0

3 ай бұрын

comin mid may

@ryana5435

3 ай бұрын

In subreddit pinned post, Alex said “We're going to be delaying the actual episode till mid may, as the boys have been super busy with the Cyclethon, and we're going to be in Australia for Dreamhack at the end of the month! With all the travel we're doing we sadly didn't have enough time to get everything setup so just wanted to apologize and thank you for your patience 🙇‍♂️”

@NTNG13

3 ай бұрын

they fell off

@ryana5435

3 ай бұрын

@@NTNG13 ???

@niclaswerner5561

3 ай бұрын

wtf it’s episode 200 we have always expected a Trash Taste a Ward show every 50 episodes so why are you just giving us a mediocre one 😭

the last 2 episodes of solo leveling were insane. I hope they get back to it in a future episode

The best part about the whole “vibe” argument is that it started with Connor saying one piece doesn’t have a vibe, which by his own definition is just not true lmao

From how I'm understanding the vibe discussion I think Connor is thinking not only about the artstyle but also the perspectives, povs, mood settings shown through the art etc.

@nicholashammerleg

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! I got what he meant. Think of the vibe of as a place. It's not JUST the lighting. The crowd. Scenery, location, food and drink. It's the subtle combination of seemingly distinct things that make a vibe!

@Kliefer

3 ай бұрын

my Artdirector and I got an aneurysm from conners explanation. Mood, lighting, setting, povs are literally artstyle/ artdirection I kinda get what he is putting down but joey hits the nail on the head tbh

@Typhonnyx

3 ай бұрын

@@Kliefer you are going too into it while trying explaining what he meant lol it's subjective and very few intelligent humans like us and connor can comphrend what actual vibe is for us we know when we are vibing with sm shtt like flow state

@Typhonnyx

3 ай бұрын

true they didnt liked connors comment on one piece which they are simp for it and banded together to destroy connors opinion

@joshuagarcia2642

3 ай бұрын

​@Typhonnyx Whats subjective? Because quite literally all art has a "vibe" in reality Connor was just saying he liked one manga better so its a "vibe".

It pains me so much to see that two of you guys don’t know Pandora Hearts, it’s a genuinely great dark fantasy / mystery manga that you’re doing yourself a disservice with not experiencing it at least once, because that is one where everything - from beginning to end - has been planned out in complete detail and you really notice it the longer it goes and the more you read It’s my favorite story of all time

@SkeetWeet4368

3 ай бұрын

it's one of the best shonen manga around imo , unfortunately it had a trashy anime adaptation and because of that it fated into obscurity . it does get a lot of appreciation on elitist circles on tiktok though

@alyssa8167

3 ай бұрын

Yes! I've re-read it many times and it just keeps getting better as I notice things I missed previously.

@animusswtor4822

3 ай бұрын

@@alyssa8167 I got my hands on a limited box-set of 12 2-in-1 physical volumes of it with the box the style of the series at the beginning of this year when only 3 were left, and I cannot wait for my next re-read

@user-unknown1705

3 ай бұрын

Pain-dora Hurt as they called it

@jj112499

3 ай бұрын

Imagine spending that much energy and time in your life that someone else who you don’t know doesn’t like the thing you like.

Yay more manga eps these are my fav to watch 💝great vid boys

Vibe - a person's emotional state or the atmosphere of a place as communicated to and felt by others. The vibe of a piece of art is but one small part of what makes it unique. The unique thing about it is that it changes from person to person, and that a vibe takes all other pieces of a work into account. Not that it’s the end all be all.

Connor: "what the hell is Umineko?" bruh

@miksuix

3 ай бұрын

Anime podcast, but doesn't know Umineko.

@ammi5311

3 ай бұрын

Maybe don't f*cking mimics a different language pronunciation . Do works with translation

@axtrast1147

3 ай бұрын

​@@miksuixnot an anime podcast genius

@Ginto_O

3 ай бұрын

@@miksuix there are no umineko anime

@gin42069

3 ай бұрын

weeb ahh pfp

42:45 That Johan impression XD Jesus Christ Connor, I'm crying lol!

Listened to this on Spotify and needed to come here to say We NEED a supercut of this episode for every "The vibe" moment. That shit was both infuriating and hilarious.

I liked how the conversation goes

honestly, Tokyo Ghoul deserves the ranking... Yes, we all know the anime is garbage, it's pretty much the poster child of manga that got butchered when they adapted it. Hell Garnt even made a video in defense of it when he actually went and read it so it's surprising to me that he didn't really talk about or defend it here because it's so obvious that Joey and Connor haven't read it and are just basing their reactions of the memes and anime...

@Wraithettg

3 ай бұрын

I read Tokyo ghoul before watching the anime and I honestly don’t think any adaptation would have done the manga justice. It’s the same with berserk

@chetanJC2021

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I thought Garnt would defend it atleast a little bit, but I am not surprised. In his video he did say Manga was better and really good but did consider it as a Masterpiece or something near that level. For me it is a masterpiece.

@minie776

3 ай бұрын

I feel like thats the general community's opinion on Tokyo Ghoul too. That the manga could really be considered a masterpiece, even people who haven't read it know that so I was really surprised to see how they wrote it off here. At the very least they didn't even discuss what they dislike about it :/

@Kriss_941

3 ай бұрын

@@minie776 Exactly my reaction. I think the reason they didn't get into it is that it seems only Garnt has actually read the manga, and while it's hard to say based on his video alone it doesn't seem like he completely caught onto a lot of the smaller details and things that would elevate it from just a good manga to a great one. I could also be wrong here as it could just be time restrictions making him cut things down for the video, or him trying to avoid any spoilers... But he never got into things like how the characters and their personalities are represented as tarot cards and how the story mirrors the fool's journey. He never got into any of the foreshadowing and small details such as the "chin touching", Kaneki's relationship with his mom, the symbolism of his hair color, even the damn title of :re which was right in front of readers for like 80 chapters without the community catching onto what it actually meant. He did touch on some of the great points though such as the depth of characters, how morally ambiguous it can sometimes be, and how Ishida breaks the mold with his panels to really show the emotions of the characters. But despite all this it doesn't feel like he really "got" everything, at least not from just what was presented in the video. Again, it could just be to avoid spoilers, but from his video he still presents it as if Kaneki became a ghoul by accident and incompetence on the doctors parts... He doesn't really discuss some of the major differences between the anime and manga such as what actually happens post "white hair Kaneki" and he doesn't really touch on the details missed in any of the anime adaptations, such as the scene in :re where they forgot to make Haise touch his chin in the anime! Out of context it sounds like an extremely nitpicky details to complain about, but in the context of Tokyo Ghoul it's about as bad as it gets as it litterally gives the scene the opposite meaning of what it's supposed to convey!

@mtablet8313

3 ай бұрын

Well, I always have the manga to look back at. It's a masterpiece imo. Sad that some people won't give it a read based on what the adaptation showed.

I totally get what Connor means by feeling the "vibe" of a media. You can and cannot explain the specifics of the vibe. I think vibe is a very personal way of how people connect with a piece of media. Garnt's and Joey's interpretation of vibe seems to be based on more logical and rational factors (like art style or storytelling etc.) that convey the vibe of a piece of media. As Connor said, for him, the "vibe" can't be clearly defined. A show can make no sense at all but you can still connect with the show; you feel the "vibe" even though you can't really explain why you enjoy the show. It's more on an emotional basis, therefore it can be rather irrational that sometimes can't be explained in a logical way. I mean in the end it's totally subjective what gives you the vibes.

@Typhonnyx

3 ай бұрын

yup like peeing on top of a mountain

@Typhonnyx

3 ай бұрын

true they didnt liked connors comment on one piece which they are simp for it and banded together to destroy connors opinion

@einhasad7

3 ай бұрын

You are overthinking it imo, Connor was pushing it just to mess with them. Initially yeah he tried to pass it off as a real thing but he saw that the others were confused and he rolled with it and made it way bigger of a thing than he initially envisioned

@haruki5360

3 ай бұрын

Vibe is gen z slang of "Enjoyable" probably

@peacefulbystander847

3 ай бұрын

So, just another word for "personal preference" or "taste"?

This episode is a VIBE

Watching trash taste is such a vibe. Content is unimportant. Vibe is everything!

Mudan really putting in work with that intro, huh? Seriously masterful work there, on the random cup and then all those bleeps haha!

@Mellow_Yellow13

3 ай бұрын

I am so confused…aren’t they saying “piss”? How is piss considered bleep worthy but all the swears are ok?

@DrainSoldier

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@Mellow_Yellow13Because it’s early on the video. Advertisers/youtube that’s just how it works.

@ryana5435

3 ай бұрын

@@Mellow_Yellow13 maybe "bean piss" is a new thing will trigger snowflake YT demonetization bot?

@willzombieking8100

3 ай бұрын

@@Mellow_Yellow13 I believe its mainly how early in the episode it is

@HenryStudebaker

3 ай бұрын

@@willzombieking8100 Yeah, that's what I think it is, too!

Easily one of my favorite openings to an episode. Garnt drinking foul mystery liquid he found on the floor, a half-inaudible argument about coffee beans. Unhinged. I'm hyped.

this episode was such a vibe

Vibe = atmosphere thats created, how it makes you feel “comforting, nostalgic, excited etc”

I completely understood connor's view on the vibe because thats exactly how i feel. There is more to the vibe than the story. There is the setting, the mood, the character designs, the aura and so much more. Lets say one piece is drawn in miura's style. The vibe would still be different due to the character designs. Just by looking at guts and his gritty armor, you can see his dark vibe. Luffy on the other hand looks more carefree with his free flowing bright red vest, light blue jorts and slippers.

@HapPawhere

3 ай бұрын

He can just say "I dislike One Piece & like Berserk more"

@HapPawhere

3 ай бұрын

Joey asked about what Connor does not like about One Piece, but he only answer "I don't like the vibe" which is the same as i dislike One Piece in a smooth way of saying

@pass6749

3 ай бұрын

@@HapPawhere connor has said that he likes one piece tho. I mean hes still reading it and wants to continue reading. Correct me if im wrong tho.

@GuyLogen

3 ай бұрын

In the same vein, Miura's artstyle probably would not work for One Piece. It's vibes require a more cartoonish artstyle.

Here after almost a year. Still slaps 2hours clean off my sleeptime.

this is the perfect baby sired by a podcast and a youtube video, perfect for cleaning the house, please give me more

Just to add my opinion on the Vibe Discussion: I have this idea of 'charm' where you can let a story with objective faults slide because the other aspects carries it.

52:55 Umineko no Naku Koro Ni is my favorite piece of fiction ever. I highly recommend both the VN and the manga! Episode eight is the final part and totally deserves to be up there

@Drtu576

3 ай бұрын

W it is peak.

i feel like when talking about manhwa's story it kinda shows that maybe japanese mangaka having an editor helps so much in terms of how well the story is made

41:36 THE WAY GARNT LOOKED BACK AT THE CUP AFTER DRINKING IT😭😭😭😭😭

Connor's rant about vibes is so based tbh. It's like atmosphere in games, you can't exactly describe it tangebly or accurately, especially for someone who doesn't see it or care for it, but man does it elevate something to a new level when it hits the spot

@jerbjerbjerb5912

3 ай бұрын

vibes is the whole package. take out 1 element and it wouldnt be the same.

@ammi5311

3 ай бұрын

Skill issue , check your ability to orchestrate words describing abstract concept

@albertl5444

3 ай бұрын

You just define what vibes is. Vibes is what you feel toward something. Everything can be a vibes if you feel something towards it.

@balabanasireti

3 ай бұрын

Not really, it's bad and poorly explained

@balabanasireti

3 ай бұрын

​@@albertl5444 All these comments about you people saying nothing 😂

I think I get Connor’s vibes thing its just hard to describe. I agree One Piece isn’t a vibes show, but I do get the vibes from characters like Kizaru and Aokiji. And when the camera zooms out dramatically to show a ridiculously sized character standing over everyone. That shits a vibe

@royalfun1031

3 ай бұрын

Bleach

@crocoboi7936

3 ай бұрын

Yeah there are many different types of vibes one piece has lots of fun adventurous vibes and just like you say many villains feel unstoppable because of their height and design.

I'd never considered myself an annoying manga reader, but this episode made me realize that I REALLY am. I can usually brush off any comments I think are incorrect when they're talking about anime, but about manga, I felt compelled to write like 10-page essays on why they're wrong. I didn't even know I cared that much lmfao

The "VIBE" in this episode is good, favorite ep so far just really felt the "VIBE" in this one

the best out of context clip which might win a TT awardw started here at 41:19 Garnt just casually grad a cup of stale water out of nowhere and sipped it two times (the second time he might finished it) until he frowned and realized it at 41:42

I had a stop in the middle of my shower because as someone that loves literature the thing that Connor is describing as the vibe is tone! TONE. in modern times a lot of people have actually described tone as vibe probably starting from the beach boys good vibrations. But yes, tone is something you can specifically like about a piece of literature.

Watching Connor constantly contradict himself when talking about vibes was a vibe

I genuinely can’t believe Garnt and Joey couldn’t comprehend what Connor meant by vibe 💀

@anhedonia420

3 ай бұрын

Connor makes no fucking sense/contradicts himself 80% of the time

@AdamC2013

3 ай бұрын

​@@anhedonia420when?

@shadmanbashar6067

3 ай бұрын

@@anhedonia420 bro did you even watch or just spouting nonsense . Connor was right about vibe.

@haruki5360

3 ай бұрын

​@@shadmanbashar6067at one point he said vibe is combination of art, story, etc. But on other point he said he can feel the vibe with only one panel of manga

@cracuss31n52

3 ай бұрын

​​@@haruki5360 What does that contradicts? Those "vibe" Connor described can be felt through just a single panel but because that panel is a part of the story and combines it with art of course you can feel the "vibe" from one panel. It's like seeing the berserk Eclipse panel, you can appreciate it as an art piece without reading berserk but if you read berserk you can appreciate the panel more than just a sick looking art.

How Garnt went from discussing the nature of art to immediately drink of some cup that was lying around is a moment I expect to see at the best of this season of Trash Taste

Binged JoJo's in one weekend "accidentally", had saved it as I knew I'd love it so much. Reading it atm.

Vibes, etymologically speaking, come from vibration and frequency. It's a deep rabbi hole with for example that water freezes differently with different music, which is controversial. But ultimately, it's about "being on the same frequency" with something after you first "get it" and then you "vibe" with it. It's subjective and emotional, and can't really be fully explained on an intellectual level.

My sculpture teacher said it’s important to explain what you like about some thing in art but it’s completely useless to explain why you like something in art and I feel like the “ vibe “argument that happened in this episode is prime example of that

52:58 UMINEKO MENTIONED‼️‼️🗣️🗣️🗣️

@PrismaX2

3 ай бұрын

FRRRRRRR

@Drtu576

3 ай бұрын

W fr

the vibe argument deserves a special spot in the next Trash Taste Awardw

The ‘what is vibe?’ convo is a mirror of the old ‘what is pizza?’ convo.

this episode was truly a vibe

3:14 Joey: “we filmed that 20 minutes ago”. Oh so they filmed those backlog episodes back to back?

People said Lord of the Rings was unadaptable too. Then Peter Jackson did the impossible and made a movie basically the first of its kind filming all 3 back to back with just tons of budget and prep and just everything. Sure it is not a perfect adaptation of the books but it was amazing.

Can’t wait to see half of this episode turn up at the trash taste awards , ooh boy 😂

Mmm well actually, Studio Eclipse, an independent studio made up of Berserk fans, is working on a faithful adaptation of the first Berserk arc (The Black Swordsman) and they're said they are going to adapt the whole arc and no censorship. First trailer it will be released in May of this year.

This episode had quite the vibe

This whole episode was a vibe .

this episode is a vibe

Congrats on Episode 200!

Vibe is just a number of different things. It’s the visuals, the music, or even the lack of visuals and music. It could also be a moment in a story, or not. Basically anything that makes you feel a particular kind of way is a vibe. It’s similar to “atmosphere” and “tone” which can come in the form of visuals and audio, or both.