By 2025, Europe may be the first place where FSD and XNGP will co-exist. Also, you're too kind to Tesla by not including auto parking in your test.

@Syvergy

3 ай бұрын

Australia has Chinese EVs as well.

@pt9845

3 ай бұрын

auto parking works great

@johnsmith-cw3wo

3 ай бұрын

@@Syvergy witch Chinese EV in Australia have FSD ? - does Tesla have FSD in Australia ?

@gkkirilov

3 ай бұрын

He also didn't include the FSD 12

@networm78

3 ай бұрын

@@gkkirilov he probably didn't include XNGP 4.5.0 as well.

Thanks, very helpful comparison. I always enjoy your content.👍

Should do Huawei FSD(especially Avatar)vs Tesla FSD, show them how proper self driving actually works.

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

Actually the finest FSD we have todat is FSD V12 from Tesla. Fully AI-based with extraordinary capabilities.

@wolfgangpreier9160

3 ай бұрын

Huawei is one of the companies that are not allowed to deliver anything outside of China. So why compare them to anyone? I do not think KZread can be watched in China.

@kamsunleong6648

3 ай бұрын

​@@wolfgangpreier9160 Of course they can. VPN.

@wolfgangpreier9160

3 ай бұрын

@@kamsunleong6648 VPN is forbidden. That means KZread is only visible to the lawbreakers in China. 1 Million? 10 Million? A insignificant number.

@byhyew

3 ай бұрын

​​@@wolfgangpreier9160I'm watching from China. You can legally solicitate free internet access in China apart from VPN, like in university campus, some government offices and businesses. Also Chinese people make about 140 million trips outside of China each year. So yeah, we do access KZread. And we all be able to access KZread if Google didn't openly disrespect the legal system in China in the PR stunt back in 2010. 😂

We need to get an update on this with V12. Great video and comprehensive comparison! Thanks

Both systems are evolving, and we can evaluate which of the two systems is better in a few years. However, in China, Huawei’s autonomous driving system may be better than xpeng’s xngp

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

Not at all, Huawei is an alternative, but XNGP will be perfect since June 2024 and be used since 2025 in flying cars, so it needs to understand things clearly and cannot rely on maps as Huawei seams to do, and needs to compare all situations togather, as it should have been made everywhere by EJFJ Positive Contextualisation since March 15th, 1996, to spare anysort of wasting and any human mistake, especially the worse mixture of them all that we name "war".... When the vehicle moves abroad, it needs to respect the local rules and give pleasure to all the vehicle in-occupants and to all others street users...

Nice comparison. A few minor points. Tesla is now providing HW4 on all it's cars now. HW4 included cameras with about 5x resolution over HW3, and the processor jumps from 144 TOPS in HW3 to 490 TOPS in HW4. I've got HW3 myself, but seems there is not yet a large difference in operation with HW4 equipped cars so your comparison is reasonable. This may change with future software. More recently (perhaps after your November test) Tesla is using the cabin camera to assist detect driver attention. I've not noticed a difference, but I also pay attention, so I've not gotten any "pay attention" notices. Nice to see multiple companies making great systems.

Very interesting video, lots of cool information. Hope you get a chance to try Tesla FSD v12 when its more public in the future.

Good job ! This is the type of review everyone has been wanting

Wheelsboii on point. Refreshing to see honest reviews

You can't just invite the fanboys without warning Ethan. They are going to swarm this place.

@user-jh6vt8vx4v

3 ай бұрын

😂That is good. Genshin become famous when Nedintdo fanboy smash a ps4

@stereoreviewx

3 ай бұрын

XPeng have clearly loaned the brand new car ,they don’t give cars for free everybody .

@wolfgangpreier9160

3 ай бұрын

If you want to compare XPeng to anything else you must deliver them outside of China. The XPeng delivered to Norway are pbviously prototypes and not finished. When will XPeng finish their cars?

I think Huawei has the best FSD system. Different brands are using it, for example Avatr.

@pt9845

3 ай бұрын

Not even close, lol.

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

Huawei is not even in the same league as Tesla. Their hardware is inferior, they rely only on mapped parts of cities and are not so widely spread. On the other hand FSD is available everywhere in N. America aside from beta 12 which is currently only available in San Francisco. But FSD beta 12 would soon be available everywhere and that would be the global standard for self driving.

@wolfgangpreier9160

3 ай бұрын

Only in China. Not very interesting for us.

@Asian_Connection

3 ай бұрын

Ha.......

@nagi-springfield93

3 ай бұрын

@@napobg6842 Your news is like 5 years old, watch a newest huawei adas online lol

very well made and clear )) thnx

Traffic condition in the States is much easier for self-driving system, should find a chance to compare them in the same city.

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

That could be because Chinese are some of the worst drivers in the world. Yet in terms of density Sna Francisco is harder than Shanghai.

@brian.z6592

3 ай бұрын

@@napobg6842 You got to be kidding me. Been to both the cities you mentioned several times, traffic density and roads's design are much better in S.F.

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

@@brian.z6592 I see the statistics buddy. S.F is a lot more densely populated and from what I see the S.F is very dynamic around the clock so it is not very fair to say that it is better. Granted Shanghai might be more dynamic on the road simply because the Chinese are ranked among the worst drivers in the world. But S.F is still very dynamic and more densely packed. People are everywhere as well.

@RobertLoPinto

3 ай бұрын

"hold my beer" - New York City driver

@brian.z6592

3 ай бұрын

@@napobg6842 O trust your data. But population density won't always reflected on road traffic. I travel between these two countries quite often before covid, trust me, Tesla FSD can't survive in major Chinese cities, unless they hire more more local Chinese engineers to make proper adaption change.

Compare Huawei Fsd with Xpeng

@charliespring

3 ай бұрын

There is no doubt that HUAWEI is the best in the self driving system

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

@@charliespring In China maybe, in the world, FSD is the best!

@frangalarza

3 ай бұрын

@@napobg6842 If by World you mean US... FSD does not exist anywhere else

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

@@frangalarza Yeah true, bad choice of words. FSD is overall a superior system. The Huawei system would obviously perform better in China because it is available there and FSD is not. The good thing is that support is coming and FSD would maybe be available in China soon

@anguianoalan100

3 ай бұрын

@@napobg6842have you seen the Huawei system? The are is able to know if its blocking the road and will move or give way if needs to

I'm more curious how they compare in poor weather conditions, where I assume the Xpeng would shine.

@MoneyMagnet119

3 ай бұрын

Under adverse weather conditions, a KZreadr in China conducted an experiment in which they stopped their vehicle after spotting pedestrians at speeds ranging from 20 km/h to 70 km/h. In this experiment, Xpeng continued driving and struck pedestrians beyond 30 km/h, while Nio reportedly did not hit pedestrians even at 70 km/h. In contrast, Li Auto's well-selling hybrid car model, the L7, collided with pedestrians even at a speed of 20 km/h.

@pt9845

3 ай бұрын

Lidar is bad in poor weather.

@MoneyMagnet119

3 ай бұрын

@@pt9845 In adverse weather conditions, the camera and the lidar each have their own strengths and weaknesses. The cameras communicate visual information well, but their performance may be degraded in rain or fog. The lidar uses lasers for distance measurements, which have less field-of-view limitations, but its accuracy may be reduced in weather conditions such as rain or snow. Therefore, most self-driving cars are designed to operate reliably in a variety of situations by combining the camera and the lidar.

@pt9845

3 ай бұрын

@@MoneyMagnet119 Cameras do all of that - rain, snow and fog. LiDar complicates and muddies the data. Humans can go their whole life without getting in an accident, with 6 less eyes and 1000% slower reaction rate. The world will soon understand when Tesla hits Level 5 soon.

@GlitterGuru

3 ай бұрын

@@MoneyMagnet119 there's short and long range radars too. Redundancy is a good thing 👍

When it compared with the two Selfdrive systems between Xpeng and FSD , I am the lucky one who has experienced both. I vote for Xpeng. By the way, Xpeng is going to hit the Euro market with free XNGP this year, wish we have the chance to see how these two brands goes in Europe

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

Very biased comment which doesn't represents the truth! FSD is superior because it not only offers similar capabilities when XNGP is actually available but it also offers throughout N. America and soon Europe.

@MoneyMagnet119

3 ай бұрын

@@napobg6842 Xpeng is a company that focuses on autonomous driving with a reliance on precise HD maps, showcasing strong performance in specific cities. While Tesla also demonstrates competence, Xpeng believes it excels in autonomous driving capabilities within specific areas. Nevertheless, in cities where HD maps are not adequately implemented, Tesla might have an advantage in autonomous driving. On a personal note, I ride a Model Y, and during inclement weather, the autonomous driving mode automatically disengages, leading to frustration. Autonomous driving is especially crucial in such conditions, and I frequently find myself expressing discontent about this situation. This holds true in my experience.

@bubuneowoo6161

2 ай бұрын

Tesla navigates by compass. You fanbois are really thick

Thank you! For once we’ve had a clear, reasoned and experienced review of these systems. I 100% agree with you about driver monitoring . People will abuse the system if they think they can get away with it.

But XNGP doesn’t reply solely on HD maps, it’s useable in areas that don’t have those maps.

@waynelewis9110

3 ай бұрын

As he stated, mapless XNGP is not available everywhere.

@someuser7501

3 ай бұрын

@@waynelewis9110 and you have to wonder why as theoretically it should work everywhere if pre-maps aren't required. How are they going to sell this all over the world if some kind of prepping is required?

@networm78

3 ай бұрын

It works everywhere, but it's only enabled in cities and roads that they've verified before. That's only the responsible thing to do.

@tesla_tap

3 ай бұрын

@@networm78 - Actually seems iresponsible to me. While roads don't change quickly, they do change - from design changes, road closures, accidents and more. What do you do when the company stops supporting old cars and/or if they go out of business? Those pre-mapped systems go out of date and become a nightmare. The only real solution is systems that are smart enough to not need pre-mapping. Tesla figured this out years ago. Seems like Xpeng has discovered it too and is switching new cars to dump pre-mapping.

@networm78

3 ай бұрын

@@tesla_tap If verifying before release is irresponsible, then what do you make of Tesla's approach? Mind you, FSD is not available in many countries, including China, for the same reason. XPeng is just being more conservative as they are not releasing their product as beta. And XPeng isn't dumping HD maps. It's one of many techniques XNGP uses to provide the best ADAS experience whenever possible. If HD maps are available, it will use it to anticipate road layouts so that it can plan and make decisions (like changing to the right lane) in advance, or when road markings or signs are not visible. If there's no HD map, it will fall back to pure vision. This is opposed to reacting only when there is a line of sight. Pure vision is incapable of anticipating what it can't see.

“Robotaxis in August. To be clear, we can do it now.”

@springer-qb4dv

10 күн бұрын

"Million robo-taxis with nobody in them by end of the next year. For sure!" - Elon Musk 2019

Elon did a deal with the Devil: Tesla got a FREE China factory built, in exchange for all the tech.

@springer-qb4dv

10 күн бұрын

indeed, CCP/Xi will take everything from Musk in the end. Billionaires like Musk are dime a dozen to CCP. Musk will get squeezed out from China when all Chinese EV makers crush Tesla, which is coming pretty soon. But Musk shouldn't mind, he seem to adore anything with "X" including Xi!

@williamwatitwa3534

5 күн бұрын

Thats shallow

Fantastic video! Great comparison.

Xpeng is already competetive and better in many comparision, especially in parking, u unfortunally aint mention that

The question is who will win in the end: Lidar + vision or pure vision. Personally I believe Lidar + vision solution. Tesla abandoned Lidar several years ago as it was too expensive. But lidar price has been dropped dramatically. Now it costs less than $1k.

@jamessmith-yk3sc

3 ай бұрын

tesla argues that different types of sensors make for more false positives and therefore more jerky driving. fsd 12 is a big step up from the 11 branch can't wait for a head to head with that.

@pt9845

3 ай бұрын

Pure vision, Lidar is a crutch, as the co-founder of Waymo says.

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

Beta 12 is the new standard, vaastly superior to everything that exists today. I hope it would come to China and show them for AI-based autonomous driving truly looks like.

@springer-qb4dv

10 күн бұрын

@@pt9845 Wrong - that quote is from Musk the infamous lidar basher. Not from Waymo

@springer-qb4dv

10 күн бұрын

Without Lidar, there is no "full self driving". Tesla "full self driving" is basically a hallucinating chatbot behind the wheel of 2 ton machine. Only Lidar can validate vision processing and without Lidar, Tesla cars are doomed to level 2 ADAS. Musk said Lidar is "fool's errand and doomed". LOL guess who just ordered thousands of Lidars from Luminar?? Musk!

Great review lots of aditional factors to take into acount like the way drivers behave and drive when not testing in the same country You should do this video with version 12 and HW version 4 i think you will feel the diference

Your best video yet

I will visit shanghai in Feb from Singapore to check out the Ev market there. Cheers.

Its about time you make an update to this video

Ah, I wish you had also compared the auto-parking capabilities. From other clips I imagine the Xpeng is able to do far far more than a Tesla.

The Tesla doesn’t have latest FSD version (12) which is a major improvement. Won’t even waste my time watching this.

Excellent work. It’s good to give the Tesla fans a look at other systems. Try MobileEye Supervision next!

14:55 the system should never deactivate without a big big big warning ABD/OR it should make the car decelerate and stop in case of no driver's reaction

+1 for Huawei FSD

Keep in mind beta means it is not a release version, but rather a test version and that means features could be still in progress (think v12 feature differences)

One error: Tesla DOES have eye monitoring now. Early model Teslas did not have an interior camera but all of them do now. It monitors your eye line and will warn you and disengage FSD if you look away too long. Also the street driving software has been completely replaced with AI software instead of programming based. I am using this and it is much more confident and handles more complex situations better than the previous version. I still need to intervene occasionally, it's still a work in progress, but much less than with previous versions.

I feel like a reasonable take on this is that with a huge amount of sensors and HD mapping it's easier to deploy self driving in a limited area. Yet, with that approach I feel like the scalability is questionable, because maps would have to be updated constantly and the sensor suite is expensive. Developing a fully synthetic driver that basically only needs Google Maps and a bunch of cameras, maybe a high res radar (which Tesla has also talked about recently) takes longer and is harder to do. But once it works the scalability is crazy good.

I think it would be nice to include a comparison within a city that it didn’t have HD maps for a more apples to apples example.

@bubuneowoo6161

2 ай бұрын

Tesla navigates by compass. You fanbois are really thick.

@SamuelMM_Mitosis

2 ай бұрын

@@bubuneowoo6161 huh? You don’t know what you are talking about. HD maps are not the same as something like google maps and are extremely expensive to maintain and not scalable with current technology. That’s exactly why these systems like Waymo only operate in a few major cities. That’s also why Tesla is trying to work with vision only.

Such comparisons are pointless to be honest. The cars need to be at the same place and the same time in order for such test to have any meaningful value. I heard that Tesla would soon spread FSD, not the code-based version but the AI-based version, across the world.

Great job 👏 ❤

The Chinese systems are much more advanced with all the different features

@napobg6842

3 ай бұрын

They why do they only exists in some parts of aa few selecteed cities? They are just not that advanced compared to FSD which is understandable considering Tesla has been in the game for a very long time and they learned a lot. They also became the very first to make a 100% AI-based FSD.

@networm78

3 ай бұрын

They are not in all cities because traffic rules and layouts vary from city to city, not because it doesn't work in the city. It's the responsible thing for XPeng to release them only when they been verified.

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

@@napobg6842 SI can comntribute to accidents, XNGP is based on EJFJ Cumulative Cleverness, but for now, they are learning their cars and neural computer systems how to drive carefully (too carefully sometime) is situations a Tesla cannot manage at all.... How will a Tesla choose between killing a cyclist or a motorcyclist? It will choose pedestrians as they will do less damages on the car! Xpeng is now storing lot of daten, and analyzibng things globally, they have begin many years after Tesla, but they are already at the level of FSD +& for security, if Tesla can one day reach such a security... And they do a new version each 3 months, Tesla counts on IA to go quicker and quicker but without cosidering human lives as they should be considered... Lot of persons have had very important accidents with Tesla, Xpeng proceed carefully, slowlier in curves, to allow very very accurate understanding to spare energy wastings and tyres damages!

I was just wondering about it today 😊 thank you, great video 😊

Love those videos. You are the only one providing those with good narration and tests.

This is exactly what people like me have against these kind of systems. If you don’t comply to the rules as stated, you lose the privilege. Now in present day that isn’t a big problem, because you can always drive the car yourself. But somewhere in the near future that might just be taken from the possibilities on the table. That means the system can exclude you from your means of transportation. Don’t say that’s far fetched, a lot of stuff that people called far fetched 10 or 15 years ago, are now common!!

Thank you for doing this comparison. The more info, the better for everyone. Please redo the comparison when FSD becomes available in China.

Very informative video

Can you test"you know who"?

Man you step up the game on your videos! This is one of the best you did so far! The topic is developing so fast that this test can and should be done regularly! So please make a video when FSD releases in China and do this test head to head

Great video

Not bad for Xpeng considering it is tiny Chinese company compared to Tesla which is in Top 10 largest in the world. In fairness to Tesla, tech companies usually have small teams and budgets on certain projects or products. These two implementations will converge in several years where Tesla will eventually have cheap LIDAR and Chinese brands with less sensors.

@petewenzel2725

3 ай бұрын

When do you think Tesla will start using LIDAR?

@pt9845

3 ай бұрын

Tesla will never use LiDar, it's garbage.

@zodiacfml

3 ай бұрын

@@petewenzel2725 when it becomes cheap enough from their perspective or once users demand more reliability/ability.

@zodiacfml

3 ай бұрын

@@pt9845 Tesla uses LIDar from time to time so it is not never. It is not garbage, only expensive and usually can't exist without Vision/cameras

@someuser7501

3 ай бұрын

@zodiacfml the G9 uses Nvidia Drive. Tesla's is all in-house

Interesting comment on. Peng going down to 40km/h at highway exits while Tesla does not. Simple answer. There is a specific traffic law in China that requires drivers to get to this limit at highway specific exits. XNGP was just tuned to this traffic law.

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

They corrected it already in Norway and Netherlands... They are improving quite each day, even if their employeees do not work on Sunday, but robots do... Robots cannot correct mistakes, if they are not EJFJ Positively Contextualized globally, worldwidely!

can XNGP be used in places for which they do not have HD maps? How many China cities are supported?

@kenion2166

3 ай бұрын

No if you drive far outside from big cities it will not work. Only in specific cities, also some streets even in the hd mapping are not supported.

@bubuneowoo6161

2 ай бұрын

Tesla navigates by compass. You fanbois are really thick

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

Yes, it works globally now, but they have HD maps in more than 246 cities since January 2024, and they are expending, very very quickly now, based on what Xpeng car perceive... They just need to be used in Europa to undertand how things work there, they can already allow normal driving, but with the same regulations for curves... Xpeng is reprogramming differently for all european countries, to allow more accurate speed management, as in Europa we do not care of wastings as chinese need to care about... They are badly accused to mistreat human beings, they use robots better than others. They are wrongly accused to copy technologies, while they realize those others did not wanted to realize (BMW Group since February 4th, 1993), and they are wrongly accused to do wastings, but they limit pollutions as much as they can, in some companies which are not badly exploited to do very very cheap and low quality products under constraints of European or American companies! China is not an actor, it is an author!

the 2018 tesla doesn't have mirror camera (at least I couldn't see it on the model you had with the bear driver) once you have say KARR like I have a 2023 MYLR and FSDb it will nag at you so much you might give up FSD so you can glance at the screen or change a station.

Can you test Huawei ADS using an Avatar 11 or 12 Car?

Did you adjust to aggressive driving? There’s an option for that

Great comparison and I learned a bunch about Xpeng's system. It is worth saying that Tesla has a cabin camera and has implemented driver monitoring. Will be great to see another comparison once FSD V12 is available to test.

Yeah you really can't compare Beta 11 to beta 12, since that would be like comparing a bicycle to a Roomba vacuum cleaner.

The Chineese would love to be able to sell their cars in North America....

@pt9845

3 ай бұрын

They would destroy every automaker except Tesla.

@user-th7wx8gy1m

3 ай бұрын

Very true and hence the reason why they are not ... ​@pt9845

did you use FSD 12? Much better than older versions

@davout5775

2 ай бұрын

Nope, he used older version of V11 in an old Tesla Model 3 with HW3, not even HW4

Tesla doing very well considering much less hardware.

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

Yes, but what you spare on hardware, you pay it on software.... And accidents are never soft, they needs to be hardly spared!!!

Xiaomi SU7 next I reckon:)

From what I have seen, Teslas FSD Beta 12.1.2 beats all the competitors easily (I guess your version was 11.x.x ?). US Cities may not be very complex to drive, but for a supercomputer it's ez enyway, no matter what city. The biggest challenge will be to train the ai so it fights for space with other road users in cities like Bangkok without being a danger to others.

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

Not at all, this is the fake publicity of Tesla which pretends this, not the reality... XNGP is better than Tesla FSD 13 now, using EJFJ Cumulative Cleverness or quite, much better than programmative AI based on what can be found on internet...

@kafiluz4317

Ай бұрын

@@EmmanuelJotterand Ok, never heard or read about EJFJ CC (seems China is more advanced than Silicon Valley then). The video of XPNG that I saw looked pretty robotic to me, like FSD V11.They don't even have a big amount of Nvidia Chips (says the market). Can you tell us how this works? By the way, FSD 13 does not exist yet and FSD 12 is not programmatically anymore.

Cool video

16:00 my wife got a strike for auto steer WITH the hands on the wheel while looking at the road the first time we used it. And even though she jiggled the wheel like crazy (because she got stressed by all the noises it made). Here in Israel(like in Europe) the system is VERY annoying and will nag you to apply force to the wheel ever 10 to 15 seconds. IMO it is very dangerous to have to apply forces to the wheel when going 90-100 km\h just to cruise an empty road. I haven't tried the autopilot yet so i don't know how much force is needed to disengage but it disengages way too easily when she puts her hands on the wheel and with potentially very dangerous repercussions (that weren't dangerous because it was an empty highway). Having to apply force "just right" to stop the nag but not to swerve into the other lane or worse, incoming traffic, is a bit stupid.

I think you should now go back and re-test with FSD beta 12.x.x... That newer version is almost a whole new code rewrite.

@davout5775

2 ай бұрын

Actually there is no code anymore

Why not including Huawei car, they are also on par with Xpeng

please make a similar video when fsd beta v12 goes public!

You should try v12 instead of v11

@springer-qb4dv

10 күн бұрын

doesn't matter. Tesla "full self driving" will always be just level 2 ADAS with hallucination

Why tf are you testing v11???

So you are basically testing last gen XNGP vs few years old Tesla FSD?

@IspanUrkut

2 ай бұрын

The Tesla FSD beta version he used was the latest available at the time of the test, November 2023. It was a few months ago.

@davout5775

2 ай бұрын

@@IspanUrkut He used 2018 Tesla Model 3 on HW3 which is basically few years old aat the time of making. Today, March 2024, it is not even remotely comparable.

Compared with Huawei's autopilot, I first heard that Xiaopeng has autopilot.😂

@agusedyanto3324

3 ай бұрын

Huawei Auto Pilot is a new player, but if it's Huawei technology then it can't be underestimated

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

Huawei uses Xpeng system in fact, they are distinct, but using what Xpeng realized since 2014, Xiaomi and BYD and all others use this Xpeng system, while americans use either the Tesla system, or as Lucid, the Xpeng system but a variant they made... I do not know if they will accept I reveal this, there cannot be many solutions to do things correctly... Tesla began very well, when they robbed the EJFJ Corporation ideas offered to BMW Group on February 4th, 1994, but they had to do sparings, and very dangerous ones!!!

Interesting

Thanks for your efforts in this video.. both systems are great, and with time will get better and better

I think the penalty system is totally wrong. These systems are proving safer than not using them, so not only are you penalizing a user but you are now making a week's worth of driving less safe. I like the idea of Xpeng making you resubmit your agreement and doing some sort of test. Also, I think with FSD is accumulating those strikes all the time, so 3 months later you might get penalized. That's actually pretty stupid logic if that's how it works. The strikes should have a limited life, say one week, so if you continuously make the errors then you get penalized, but if you infrequently make the errors then you are not penalised the same way.

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

Exacltly, but FSD cannot be autonomous at all, it is only pretendly as matchng only ADAS 2.3, rather than up to 4.2 for XNGP in 246 cities at least now...

the speed limit feature can be turn off

Why didn't you test a 2023 Telsa model Y with hardware 4 and FSD V12 if you are testing the latest Xpeng car hardware and software. A very Skewed comparison using older tech.

Hwy you also did not cover how these AI assisted driving systems do in the dark with little to no light. I work night shift and it is very dark when i drive my usual routes

11:25 Guangzhou

Not useful without Version 12. Must have been a bummer to release this just after V12 came out.

FSD V11 and V12 are not comparable.

Well i prefer lane keeping only cuz even you have FSD or whatever you need to watch them drive and make sure they don’t crash in highway so why we need FSD? We not even turn it on all the time when we in tesla car tho

@tesla_tap

3 ай бұрын

Yes, you need to pay attention in all driving modes, but not quite as much as when driving without FSD. There are so many videos of FSD preventing accidents and handling accident avoidance far better than any human. Helps to have 360 degree vision that is always looking out for you. Still legally these are level 2 systems, which means you are responsible even if lane-keeping or FSD or other systems are active.

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

This is why Xpeng exists, you can drive, but the Speng car will always show you that you drive without any danger, and will help you, whatever happens, even when flying, or jumping ;-)

At the Tesla demo at 13:20, you see the "Supercharging unavailable" message--which means someone monkeyed with the software!

The more gear you got the more you have to fix.

Homeboy is a white tiger!!

6:30 Highway test (FSD wins) 8:40 City test (XPENG wins, but some specific things FSD wins) 12:50 driver monitoring (XPENG wins, but the youtuber prefers a harsher penalties combining XPENG and FSD's penalties) 17:25 summary

hopefully you get to test and compare fsd v12 soon! that would make for an interesting video

Really? You can't wait for the version 12 🤣😂 What a waste of time.

Why do you have to allow mapless self driving in specific cities 🧐.

U didn't showcase the fsd in the Chinese car at all

Multiple systems on one car is NOT redundant, they are complementary. If cameras fail, lidar isnt reading signs or stop lights. If lidar fails, non-vision trained systems have no depth. Vision-only is the future if they can crack it.

The Tesla looks like a cheap cab next to the G9 😂, great review of the AI systems. Elon Musk fanboys coping!

@khuo0219

3 ай бұрын

You can make a car look a lot more luxurious if you don't mind losing money selling them. Xpeng has 28 billion RMB in cash and equivalents and it lost 8 billion in 2022. That means that if things stay where they are, they have 3.5 years of runway before running out of funds. I guess that is why it sold part of the company to VW.

@howcc6973

3 ай бұрын

But tesla is actually cheap car, 3 n Y🫤

@protagonist9716

3 ай бұрын

​@@khuo0219 Haha Tesla was losing money for years, much longer than Xpeng. The Chinese are in for the long haul, they will fight amongst themselves bitterly to the end and those who survive well flourish

@johnsmith-cw3wo

3 ай бұрын

@@khuo0219 COPE harder Elon Fanboy

Appreciate the effort, but apparently version 12 is a whole different can of worms compared to version 11, so this video may be moot, whatever it concludes.

Now this is what people wants to see. Do more tesla vs Xpeng! Now, just want to comment on the video. Alot of that dislike comments about xngp is set for Asian driving style. Asian people do not like going 90 miles an hour passing and exit or on ramp l.

Xpeng is way better than traditional Tesla

V11? Next!

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ok. now I guess you will need to make another video soon. and you need to rush to do it before Tesla FSD accidence get into the headline.

An informative and especially also responsible comparison, or better, review of both systems. As was clearly indicated, the circumstances under which both systems were tested just differed too much. Would be great to see follow up episodes under hopefully better comparable conditions on a regular (yearly?) basis.

Appreciate the effort to compare these systems. What really matters in the end is the pace of improvement and the scalability (cost) of these systems. I have no doubt that FSD V12 will have a Chinese version since the "rules of the road" are so different between these two countries and V12 mimics human driving. We won't see Xpeng in North America any time soon.

More EVs the better bring them to NA 😊

Correction: You failed to provide the winner!

TWO DIFFERENT FSD SYSTEMS. I BET TESLA FSD WILL WORK BETTER IN CHINA THAN BYD WILL WORK IN THE USA! Tesla FSD AS BETA SOFTWARE IS NOT THE COMPLETE VERSION, SO WE ALL KNOW THINGS WILL OCCUR, BUT BYD IS USING GEO HD MAPPING, WHICH IS NOT ACCESSIBLE EVERYWHERE! FSD IS WAY BETTER. I AND OTHERS FEEL SAFE! You can make lane changes by clicking the right or left signal! Not a fair comparison just a sided opinion!