Unpaid internships also remove the ability for many highly qualified people to apply because some people don’t have money saved or parents who support them. They should be illegal. They often get around this with stipends which when broken down on an hourly basis are often well below minimum wage. It’s definitely messed up.

@potato1084

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Fr it might as well be slavery 😂 They talk about all the “benefits” but often it doesn’t help much.

Can we please talk about the healthcare equivalent of this? I did three years of UNPAID schooling to become a CRNA and was not allowed to work AND had a 160k tuition. I ended up in huge debt and it feels like I can never get ahead.

@pri.sci.lla.

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Woah that’s wild. I do think you will be able to catch up because if I’m not mistaken, CRNAs make six figures right?

@thatjillgirl

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Yep. Same thing in pharmacy school. I had a paid intern job outside of school, but we also had to complete hundreds of hours of unpaid interning throughout the course of school. The fourth year was entirely unpaid interning (clinical experience), and our tuition costs were actually higher that year because the school had to pay the people who took us on as interns. It's a pretty weird and aggravating system. Like to an extent, I can understand it not being paid work, but it's a little tougher to swallow when you look at how much you are paying to be there.

Living outside of the US where unpaid internships are illegal where I live, it's mind boggling something this exploitive still exists.

@kylieshaye6562

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There's a ton of things still going on in America that are ming boggling

@TheMntnG

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@@kylieshaye6562 why do you stay there?

@findingagain

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@@TheMntnG Who being impacted by these things has the money to pick up and move abroad??? Exploitation continues because they give exploitable people no other option in order to keep them in those positions.

@TheMntnG

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@@findingagain it doesnt cost to move abroad

@nonotmitch

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@@TheMntnG do u expect people to swim over there or what 💀💀

And, in the US, a really big chunk of the people you see going through any kind of med school or becoming teachers HAVE to take on an unpaid internship (more so, pay to be in their unpaid internship) in order to become certified. I don't think it'd be extending too much to say this contributes to the shortages we're seeing in these fields.... (Anecdotally, another intersection comes into play too. I had to drop out of my teaching program because working 8+ hours, unpaid, and then having to also work to pay my bills put me within an inch of my life due to my disability, literally. My mentor teacher knew another prospective teacher who also had to leave because of its impact on their disability....)

@sabrinalindsey3194

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this is the exact same for my degree in Music Therapy. a 6 month internship is required to graduate and almost all are unpaid. I got “lucky” with one that paid an embarrassingly small lump sum for 1,040 hours total of work. thankfully I was still able to live with my parents but between having to pay tuition for the semester to be enrolled in the internship, gas, and car maintenance, I literally paid so much to work for 6 months just so I could graduate. I got my diploma in the mail the other day and just had to laugh cause I’m too fucking burned out to even use my degree.

I did an unpaid internship for a few months, only because I was still able to live at home. I ended up spending all the money I had saved prior, just to pay for insurance and gas (right after the recession when it was over $4 a gallon) was over 1.5 hours one way because nothing was closer. If it wasn't a small business in my industry, I never would have accepted being unpaid.

I was fortunate that I was able to do unpaid internships for one summer, but I actually used it towards college credit to waive a class. It still didn't pay the bills, but credit hours at NYU weren't cheap either. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@TheMntnG

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why not do paid work and vote to make unpaid work illegal?

Internships are mandatory in some universities to finish some undergraduate course here in Brazil. However, unpaid internship is not a thing here. No matter if you work 20h/week or 30h/week, you will receive salary and they subsidies the bus/train/subway fee. If you work on private companies, the benefits can be extended to healthy insurance and meal ticket. I can't wrap my head around the idea of unpaid internship on the US. Such a rich country.

This also occurs in healthcare though it’s a little different because for some fields it’s a requirement, which sucks even more. I’m in the middle of my dietetic internship which is a full year during which I am paying on average about $10 an hour to work for free. Training is very necessary in this field, but the fact that only 1 in about every 100 dietetic internships are funded, and likely even less with a living wage, is insane. I plan to get into the field and heavily advocate for this policy to change. It causes a massive and inexcusable diversity vacuum, and in a helping field, it’s just unbelievable to me that it’s the status quo.

@designyourfoodspace

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Yes yes yes to this. I was in the same boat 10 years ago when I did my dietetic internship. Not to mention many of the preceptors treat you like a burden.

You're telling me that Anne Hathaway wasn't even *paying* Robert DeNiro? That's an outrage!

I think they're great for students in college who are looking to intern but constantly get rejected from paid work

Yes- unpaid internship is exploitative, and let me offer an observation: international students in the US normally have a hard time getting internships because of work visa and many employers are reluctant to hire them. Many students offer to work for free so they can get experience to apply for full time. Many of these students, though have their family support, are not wealthy. Just so you know 💕

Needs to be illegal.

Another reason why people take unpaid internships is for experience and don’t want to say anything because most internships are unpaid so it’s probably best to work with what you got

Unpaid internship - paying for the right to generate wealth for other people.

Unpaid internships are only legal if the intern is the one benefiting. Spending one day photocopying a project you're a part of, fine. Running copies and answering phones every day for everyone else, you have a claim.

Learn the skills on your own. Lie on your resume.

It is a privilege to live with your parents and get support that way, but it isn't a rich people thing, its common around the world, however it is not common in American

To be clear, I think it's wild to say it's unfair that someone else has more money. Sure, if their parents are rich, they didn't do anything to create that situation, but their parents did. There is nothing we can change about the situation, even taking a single penny from the wealthy kid, that would be more fair. It's not equal, but I don't see how that means it's automatically unfair, and I think the difference is more than just a linguistic footnote.

Happy a.i taking the jobs

What do y'all think about unpaid internships for non-profit organizations?

when entry level jobs require couple of years of experience.😟

Barely people, somehow legal, unpaid intern

Unpaid internships might seem unfair until you realize that organizations will either offer an intern the chance to network, learn, and try out the working environment for no pay, or they just won't! So, would you rather get some experience or none? Source: I used to run my organization's intern program and when we changed our rules that interns needed to be offered a stipend, we went from taking on 20+ interns per year to 1-2. And no, our unpaid interns were not exploited. They were taken care of and given lots of leaway to try out different projects and learn from many different employees. They didn't fetch coffee, they learned and we spent loads of time nurturing their goals. Then all that went away because reality is that budgets are tight and there was no money for stipends.