Totally agree brother! About the music I believe every dancer would want an actually diverse playlist that compliments each styles. The judging system would be better if they have two experience judges and the third judge is the vote of the crowd. Bottom line, still grateful to experience this, definitely a challenging space which help me grow regardless and congratulations again for the brother The Crown.

@metalspalace

2 жыл бұрын

You were amazing bro ! Your skill is undeniable so keep growing. Can’t wait to lab soon when you come back

@ryu1014

2 жыл бұрын

The humbleness in defeat will take you your glory. 🙏🏽💯

@nelsonta00

Жыл бұрын

I just watched all/most of your rounds in redbull and you did really well. Song does play a role in how you can express your style and I'd have to say you demonstrated really well what you can do when you were up against Toyin and J-Noy. edit: Your set in Promiscuous girl was bopping too. Looking forward to your next redbull/turf competition. Do you do other competitions?

I don't agree with audience judging AT ALLLLLLL. All you have to do is bring all your homies and you win every battle

@Fuegoaries

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly bro theirs an event out here ina states called round of flamez they did that once as well the crowd had to judge so niggas dead brought Dey homies and it was GG’s

@makesmartTROYces

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fuegoaries FUCK ☠☠☠☠ Out were you live?

@blacklion2432

2 жыл бұрын

seen this a lot in the dance scene. When it's left to the crowd the most popular dancer will always win. a batter system is having 5 Judges or more.

@GenesisRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

You make a valid point. It'd be best for all dance battles to just stick to the traditional 3 judges as usual.

That's why I like the French dance scene so much more, I started out just being a Les Twins fan but that was a gateway into a lot of the French competitions and I feel like I learned so much over the years watching them.

@terrihunt1471

Жыл бұрын

The twins will keep me forever. But gettin out is great.

Didn’t even realize that was the finals😅 Homie you said it all, the only solution I see is the BTM route and really teach people it’s more than twerking that gets you props.

Yeah, it's a competition where the winner is determined by the best crowd pleaser. And sure, having high skill can help pleasing the crowd, but not all skill weighs the same and a lot of high level skill (like different rhythms in the groove) is not something you (generally) just understand. The ones watching/judging would need to learn what to look for. I am not sure what I feel about the event in terms of being a good or bad thing. But in terms of pure techinque it does judge a more limited set of skills than is usually judged with a judge panel of seasoned dancers.

Let someone play some damn “Tap In” at a battle. I PROMISE you. I will NOT dance. I might even walk off 😂

After watching The Crown vs Son Lam, I agree with what was said in the video. It seems that in the dance battle, it was not determined by how well the person danced, but how they were able to get the audience on their side. I felt like Son Lam won the first two rounds, but because of how hyped up the crowd was in Round 3 by The Crown, they all voted for him, maybe the winner should have been determined by judges like SYTYCD or something. Also, if these Red Bull people really want the dancers to dance their style, then they should make better song choices to accommodate their dancing styles.

Forget about the crowd, most american DANCERS are just as tonedeaf, you can have someone on Kefton's level lose to a Fikshun because they are impressed that he did a split. No offense to Fik, he's just an example I expect everyone to know. A better but less known example would be like Oakland turf dancers doing their bone breaks and tuts off beat but getting mad love solely on the moves, separate from their ear and connection with the music. I don't know how we will close the divide but it begins potentially with Red Bull encouraging interstate/countrywide battles because it isn't until a dancer on that higher level pulls up and opens people's eyes up to all the details that they take for granted that things will begin to change. We need that Fik vs Rubix battle lol.

@Fuegoaries

2 жыл бұрын

😂 istg them dam bone break moves off beat be gmt

@heni63

2 жыл бұрын

I like Fik, not watching much but his body control ist so cool

@b1slee267

2 жыл бұрын

Most is a bold statement.

@ConscientiousZombie

2 жыл бұрын

Could’ve used anybody but you chose kefton. I think that you’re just generalizing American dancers to what you see online, the issue is more about America’s obsession with commercialism and wrapping everything up in a pretty bow for everybody to indulge in disregarding how much substance is taking out in the process. They’re a lot of underground dancers that would give European dancers a run for their money Trust, I would definitely say Europe is really good at highlighting actual/underground dancers than America for sure.

@Fuegoaries

2 жыл бұрын

@@ConscientiousZombie you have a great point buh he is not entirely wrong though I wouldn’t use the word most I would Jus say some or here & there as I’m in the dance scene here & met many dancers buh I can’t speak for the entire US. So yea some are like that buh clearly not all we have some hitters for sure so ya point is right on the money💯

The fact that you HAVE to feed into the crowd takes away individuality from the dancer and like you said throws skill out the window

@Fuegoaries

2 жыл бұрын

Alex the cage don’t care bout none of that 🤣 he would dead show up to redbull dancing his own way not giving af

@Solo-xq5or

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fuegoaries Hell yeah looking like he not even trying but fucking shit up 😂

@snagc4b427

2 жыл бұрын

100 % this. Like you're pretty much looking to impress more than to express, and that's problematic as hell

@Fuegoaries

2 жыл бұрын

@@snagc4b427 say it again so the world can hear 💯

@TheOnlyDarias

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fuegoaries he literally did and I think made it to finals

I don't think Red Bull is the problem as opposed to the symptom. Red Bull has done wonders for the BBoy community and if they could do even half of that for all styles it would change lives, strengthen and broaden the community which is a higher priority than getting everyone in line. The biggest thing Red Bull can change or improve with the format is playlists/djs. Better songs mean better rounds and less goofy stuff, I mean sometimes the dancers are basically put in the corner by the DJ, I know this one time Beast was given country music to dance to at one of these events.

@makesmartTROYces

2 жыл бұрын

That's the point tho, they play eclectic music to force the dancers to dance their style no matter what. That's what I'm guessing it's like "no matter what we play *dance your style"*

@Fuegoaries

2 жыл бұрын

Country music is bonkers 🤣

@vfxswagg1337

2 жыл бұрын

@@makesmartTROYces That concept only makes sense for like 1 round though. Like he said, you're not going to get the true feeling and understanding of a style with some random ass mainstream radio music.

@GenesisRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@makesmartTROYces Thats very wack though, theres some really dope songs they could dance to and they pick Fergie and country music? I get what you're saying though, the concept is still just eh to me.

@ryu1014

2 жыл бұрын

I am guessing, sometimes the dj just fucks it up. Red bull might not even know what track out spinning. Just the operations.

0:17 give this man an Oscar

bro I love hearing yo opinion thank you for sharing with us doc

4:29 no sir, that's Natilie Furtado🔥🔥😂

Bro your intros are the best 😂😂😂

I agree so much ...... good run down. I think this all the time. About the music, skill and show men ship. You got it. It took you a minute to wrap your head and sink the thought but you got there.

THANKS FOR COMING UP LIKE THIS AND EXPLAINING TO THE CASUALS. RED BULL MEANS BUSINESS. AND DANCING TOO. 🤣 BULLOCKS!!

They basically took the concept of BC One. But the catch is they dance to commercial music and and the crowd judges

I agree

100% truth! Agree for sure! 🔥 For real they should start changing this thing….

Fik shun finna run this competition

@makesmartTROYces

2 жыл бұрын

He's competing?

Ur intros always get me cackling out loud

Agree 100% with you. First guy was real nice though

The music be so trash there’s plenty of hiphop remix’s where you’d still know the original song and sometimes be better than the OG song 😂

You can't just go grab a regular club / radio DJ with no knowledge of our art and just give him free reign.

I understand sticking to one style but My outlook on dance really isn’t the style or if u wanna mix it it’s if u mix it RIGHTT and remix moves the righttt maybe come up with moves in a better pattern or sequence to better parts of the music that’s where it fits I think. I mix styles too but I’m not limited to all-styles I can separate them if I want… I just feel like I can be more creative and express the abstractness in my brain more when I dance and use multiple of the technique from my other styles to tell the story instead of one. (Adhd)

@T3MP0

2 жыл бұрын

I just think it’s important to be versatile and not stick to one because of the fact that dancers are wanted/needed in different avenues and demonstrating different styles could get u to stand out and be noticed more but like I said I fell it has to be a certain level to do all style

They played Blink 182 "All the Small Things" during one of the pre-finals battles the night before

Most people who pay to go to RB are prob interested in dance and have some knowledge. I wouldn’t say the audience does not know anything.

There's a saying Less is More

9:37 I’m dead 🤣🤣🤣

The fact that this ant even only redbull either buh multiple events out here I bin to that don’t represent skill, even the way you interpret music goes over these ppl heads if you not beat killing. The music choice for that first round was crazy 🤣 ant no way, even the dj’s ant valid. But a lot of it is like commercial run etc and the hype, the dance there is for the audience or things that you can only digest on a certain level, rather than the real skillful level. But they gon do wha Dey gotta do fuq it. I rather participate in shi where Niggas know skill in this dance shi 💯 rather den the crowd judge or people who Jus ant that far in the dance shi.

4:00 again we look at each other gang. 😂😂😂

3:35 why we look at each other at the same time gang 😭😭😭😂😂😂

To be fair... The stuff DJ's play at many dance battles are normally songs that no one listens to. Outside of practicing, most dancers (in the NC scene at least) don't listen to that kind of music. They listen to mainstream/indie stuff. Not the underground stuff played in battles. So it's cool to get to battle to music you actually listen to.

The thumbnail bruh💀💀💀

I already know wha metal gotta say cause I be thinking the same thing so before I watch the vid crown is ma boi w for da win lmao buh GG’s

I agree it's a different animal 😊.

Yeah.. that’s twerkin shiii 😒

Love it , just can ever wrap my head round the DJ for redbull they need to play some good tracks and not these songs

Red Bull is a hit or miss. I like what they do in the dance community but they need better DJs for better music. I don't like this whole concept of trying to put on a "challenging" song for the sake of having a dancer challenged by the music. Put music that fits their style and let these dancers do their thing. Their challenge should be their opponent not the choice of music.

Big fax red bull isn’t about skill at all

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Robbery?

Sonlam should have won.

strange comp