You Dear Sir You will go down in history as one of those individuals who along w common sense n compassion and Godliness your Legacy will be remembered as a hero to chronic pain patients n Doctors!!!! Thank you for bringing back humanity into healthcare system we have lost it completely

I am a chronic pain patient who can NOT get appropriate treatment for my pain. Doctors push and referr me off to someone else, refusing to prescribe me opioids because of all of this. I am suicidal. My quality of life is ZERO. I work my part time job and I do nothing else. I can’t clean. I can’t shower. I can’t cook. I can’t sleep. Doctors refuse to help me. I’m literally at my wits end. There’s nothing else for me to try at this point.

Oh, without Rx Opiods (I have medical records from major Traumas) people tend to treat themselves. This leads often to illicit versions that often cost less, but are not necessarily clean, like a medically prescribes version. The "opioid crisis " is a cruel joke, and it is killing people. Facts. Brian

@irenehansen9366

4 жыл бұрын

I would like to add Alcohol abuse to the harmful substance people to turn to for some sort of relief of the anxiety that is caused by not having your meds.

@timmer9lives

4 жыл бұрын

Irene and Karen...you are both so correct. Why can’t those at the DEA and CDC see that. It’s pretty damned obvious that cutting off a pain patient from obtaining his or her needed RX will only force them to self medicate. It’s not rocket science.

@saradavidson3054

4 жыл бұрын

@@timmer9lives They know it! They don't care!

@tastyrecipesonabudget1689

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY

Thank you Dr. Stefan Kertesz for this video. It is rather frightening to see that when people get into a certain mindset, that bad things can happen. I pray that our healthcare system will stand up to what is right. Chronic pain patients are being “ forced into believing that pain meds are not helpful”, so the Avalanche effect is happening Nationwide.. The suicide rate is up, while the prescribing rates of Opioid pain meds are down. We are being “silenced” , and the outcome has been abandonment, disruption of the Doctor/ Patient relationship,,, and total fear of living in horrific pain. Who will help fix this? That is the million dollar question. Sincerely, Kathleen Clark, RN ( Retired).

This shameful, unforgivable issue will go down in US history as one of the greatest injustices intentionally done to a community of innocent citizens in addition to the Native and African Americans. We have only begun to see the devastation and repercussions. The question needing answered is WHY not one individual or agency in the legal community will step up and publicly demand an end to this madness!!! There are so many layers to this tragedy. Clearly the rights of millions are being violated and there is no end in sight!

@klarity1111

3 жыл бұрын

I am optimistic and believe the tide is going to turn soon. The AMA is on the side of us pain patients.

I could write a book about my personal opioid crisis. Mine was created by the CDC, state bureaucrats and patient-abandoning doctors. For 3 years, I was on a rather low dose of opioids for my chronic pancreatitis. I lived a quality life, had a few good work clients, traveled, and was present for my children. May 2019, my pain doctor abruptly abandoned me over pressure from the state department of health to weed out pain patients. No referral was given. Better yet, no pain management groups here even prescribe opioids as an option, even if nothing else works. Keep in mind, the only evidence based treatment for my severe pancreatic pain is to have my pancreas removed, become a brittle diabetic and possibly die from the surgery. I tried the pain group's non narcotic treatments and procedures. They made a load of money off of me, delivering expensive treatments not known to help pancreatic pain. Finally, after 5 months, I found a new primary doctor who would prescribe an opioid, but 1/2 the dose I was on. I nearly committed suicide over this pain, wanted to every day. My family believed the media hype and think no one, including me, should ever be on these drugs. I lost all of my clients as I couldn't focus on anything but the severe pain. I could barely parent. I felt isolated, abandoned, ostracized. ..for having chronic pancreatitis pain. Now, the new doctor is pushing suboxone, saying it helps severe pain...a lie with no proof it is even close to effective as opioid pain meds. Doctors today will do anything to make chronic pain patients out to be addicts, drug seekers, and liars of the intensity of pain we suffer. I am in a depression still traumatized by my doctor abandoning me and leaving me in both severe pain and withdrawal. I submitted a 17 page complaint against him to the Office of Professional Medical Conduct. That was 5 months ago and I feel they've swept my complaint under the rug. We are the medical throwaways. No one cares if we kill ourselves. I think the medical profession WANTS us to die so they don't have to deal with us.

@lisaschooler9992

Жыл бұрын

I know your post is years old, I hope things got better for you. It’s absolutely dreadful what has been done.

@rob7476

5 ай бұрын

@brookeshow This process just started for me 2 days ago. I am at my wits end. Could we talk?

My wife was denied opioids after surgery several times recently. Get insurance denied post-op opioids because they were "unable to establish medical necessity" Those overdoses aren't just illegal opioids, they're illegal opioids plus other drugs AND alcohol Prescribing didn't cause this problem

Thank you for this video....it needs to go viral

@cathieh.7225

3 жыл бұрын

Hear hear

Thank you Dr. ! I'm 53 with CRPS for 25 years and several other spinal and ther diagnosis involving severe pain. I was force weaned after 18 years on my two Opioid Rx meds. which were still giving me my life. Now I cannot even go to pt, Epidural injections, mammos, . They knew I was standing on the Cliff's Edge but took them away anyways and said keep your appt. in eight weeks from now ! My life is filled with tears daily but I'm fighting. How could they

@carolbenack5960

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly people without severe medical issues will tell you change your diet etc. Please educate everyone. No one is immune to the possiblilty of an accident happening . Your life can change in the blink of an eye !

Wow! I am in tears! This was very powerful! Every doctor, the CDC, DEA Pharmacy and AMA needs to watch this and not just hear it, but *_listen_* to it. I am so close to suicide. There is nothing for me to live for. I am left with no quality of life. I am a burden to my children and to myself. Either way, I'm gonna die....if not from kidney & liver failure, then by my own hand. Personally at this point - I don't even care if I don't wake up tomorrow. I've been taking copious amounts of OTC pain relievers trying to get control of my pain to no avail. What's the point of living when you don't have a life? 🤷🏼‍♀️

@jakeb6703

3 жыл бұрын

I hope your going to see this reply, and life has improved in someway since the original comment, I'm a 21year old and cant really under stand what your going through. I can say you are not a burden to those around you. a good friend of mine died last year, and changed everyone's life around him. Many people wish the best for you, myself and your kids included. best wishes through the powers of the internet.

Dear Dr. Kertesz, Thank you, so much, for doing all (and more) of the research necessary for this presentation. I’m a grad student, and one of my two current classes is a Heath Law, Quality and Compliance class. While challenging, I simply adore it. Mainly because we needed to study about the ACA and the HVBP, HCAHPS, and HAC programs. While I was a positive supporter in 2010, I am not today. My reason is the same as yours. Essentially, patients are human beings, not metrics. The example you gave earlier (elderly patient in hospital for one diagnosis, probably has dementia, or is not aware that there are no carpets in the room) falls and fractures the femoral neck, or another bone. I know that is a HAC event, which requires immediate investigation and (essentially) trial and execution by committee. And yet, someone with a valid diagnosis of pain (metastatic bone cancer, previous trauma with a patient that now has nerve injuries with sequela, severe arthritis not amenable to joint replacement, maybe d/t rheumatoid arthritis). These patients should qualify for long term pain management. What the CDC, and AHRQ are overlooking is the fact that a patient will eventually build up a tolerance. Further, we are speaking of patients with valid aged, documented, diagnoses. These are not drug seeking people (for the most part). And, these are probably not people with a history of drug abuse. They need the medication. It should not be reduced. The opioid crisis, as well as the CDC and AHRQ, need to focus their attention to the people who illegally abuse these drugs. Or, people who do have a valid pain diagnosis, but sell their meds because they can no longer work. Many loopholes need to be closed, but it should not start with patients on pain meds for valid reason. I can see you’re an empathetic person, but where is the empathy amongst the rest of the medical community??

@meganleslie9069

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sammysmys I think they meant a well documented case, not someone saying "My back hurts" for the first time. I don't think it was in reference to the person's actual chronological age.

@lisadionne5834

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you .I have Poly nueropathy .Oppcipitical Nueralgia ,That is treated with injections .I have 5 more painful conditions and I have been tortured by the medical community the last time I went to the emergency room they laughed at me and told me to leave I'm walking with a cane and they laughed at me and said I was looking for drugs thank you so much because you will be a professional and you will understand what we go through and you have a hot and you're intelligent please tell your friends what's going on thank you for helping us thank you and thank the doctor and just think anyone who helps us as pain patients nowadays

For every report there are ten unreported episodes of suicides related to abrupt cessation of pain meds and chronic pain

Speaking from a former pharmacy tech., & interacting with customers who are clearling needing help. I can tell you first hand that yes some of the physicians perscribing opioids only care about the profit not the human condition of their patients. TY for explaining this man made genocide & being morally responsible for your actions.

So refreshing to hear "common sense" Seems there is a shortage of that today. Thank you for this post. I hope it doesnt fall on deaf ears. My high dosage of pain medicine has been cut to a crumb. I usually end up having to go to the streets to make up for extra meds I had to take leaving me a week short most times.If I survive and live till end of yr, Im writing the drugs bought off the streets off of my taxes. They after all pushed me to do this. Thank you again for video

@lorenrobertson8039

4 жыл бұрын

@Glen Surles I have used Kava Kava for break through pain after my pain med. dosage was cut...I am suffering a great deal. The other day I asked since it has come out that it is harmful to people to cut their pain med.'s, can I have my original dosage back? No! He said that the main Dr. was going to continue to stick close to the gov. guidelines. Sad...

@jessicam3543

3 жыл бұрын

@Glen Surles I tried that route. I quit all my pain meds in the hope of only using kratom and being able to be released from this crazy carousel of forced tapers, discrimination, stigma and hoop jumping to get what meds I was allowed. It didn't work. Thankfully I chose to do this before 2016 and was able to get back most of my meds. I still use kratom to supplement my meds, but there is no way kratom alone is strong enough for my pain. Kratom is an excellent choice for some people, but it doesn't work for everyone. It's wonderful it helped you and I'm very happy you were able to find relief with it.

Great talk Ted! I signed that letter and for a few days, I thought it got their attention but now it has been forgotten :-(

I have 2 family members addicted to high levels of opioids. I take a half pill of Norco several times a day to help my pain. It helps so much. My doctor (afraid of opioid over prescription) put me on non-narcotic topomax and cymbalta and I was bed ridden for 9 months. I still haven't recovered from the damage done to my brain and body by those non-narcotic meds. Norcos are so much more affective and so much less harmful for treating severe fibromyalgia. I'm sure that's not the only condition it helps.

@poetflows

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone's conditions and situations, are different. But good for you.

@workinonleavintheliv

4 жыл бұрын

Locked Up Lucy THIS!

@dennisshivers5986

4 жыл бұрын

what works for one doesnt necessarily work for another..Im glad your medicine helps you

@MrKongatthegates

4 жыл бұрын

You want drugs for your fake disease?

@poetflows

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrKongatthegates No we want you to troll elsewhere~

The medical management of pain should aim at reducing suffering and improving function. This requires TIME spent with the sufferers and no-one seems to want to pay/resource that

Finale someone who makes sense! I was appalled when I accompanied my 66 year old father to his pain doctor after he was shifted from one clinic to another he was then told his prescription was being cut in half he asked why the doctor told him because I’m more worried about the Dea then I am about you! I was stunned and this I might add was while my father was going through chemo and that oncologist wouldn’t prescribe him any comfort drugs ... he finale had to give up chemo after 3 treatments because it was to i bearable for him .. he passed away a few mo the later.. I’m angry at the government for getting in the way of doctors ability to treat their patients individually! Now that they control that they are going after women’s reproductive decisions and their doctor is.. it’s all about power and control ..

@robindudley7658

4 жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to you!

@timmer9lives

4 жыл бұрын

Shocking..... but I can beat that. Doctor went ballistic on me because I told him I can’t function if I take gabapentin daily. He absolutely lost it and says.... I don’t want to treat you anymore.... get out. I guess he forgot about that oath he took...DO NO HARM.

@pandora-is-here

3 жыл бұрын

Omgosh... 💔 my heart breaks to hear this. My deepest condolences.

@jacquiemcevoy4509

3 жыл бұрын

Dora Summerz thank you ❤️

@lisadionne5834

2 жыл бұрын

So Sorry .It's so horrible that your dad has to suffer like that .So so Sorry

So glad I was there to see this live! Definitely one of the most important Tedx Talks out there. Thank you Dr. Kertesz!

@rightthewrong6050

4 жыл бұрын

Cool.. Where did this take place?

@dennisdegroot7490

4 жыл бұрын

I Don't see a reason to be optimistic about his talk. I agree with him, But he isn't talking about natural opportunities like: cannabis, mdma, dmt and especially pcilocybine. The real problem he isn't talking about is that Big pharmaceutical companies making lots of money and people dying in the process. The American people created this problem themselves. Look at the rest of the world.

@annefuqua

4 жыл бұрын

dennis de groot I’m glad you understand this is a problem. The options you mentioned aren’t effective or available for or appropriate for everyone now. Research and new treatments down the road are extremely important. We just need to take care of patients who are suffering right now too. Cannabis did nothing for me. The others are interesting but not readily available for patients like me. We are here now - often being left to suffer needlessly, sometimes so much we can no longer go on. Our deaths need to count too.

@annefuqua

4 жыл бұрын

Right the Wrong Birmingham, Alabama

@katvtay

4 жыл бұрын

dennis de groot Picture a chemotherapy drug that is being withheld from patients in need of it, and a doctor was discussing all of the politics, red tape, and poor understanding that was keeping this chemo drug held up. Would you be saying, “that’s all well and good, but that oncologist didn’t talk about natural opportunities like cannabis, acupuncture, biofeedback, etc?” Yeeaahh. There is a time and a place to make the case for other treatment modalities, but this TedTalk wasn’t about that, and you should understand the importance of prioritizing the subject matter. Opioids are being withheld from people who benefitted from them and did not respond to other treatments. You’re implying these same patients can just smoke a bowl or take some K. Other treatments should be more readily available, but that’s for another TedTalk. Sometimes, all that works for someone is opioid analgesics, which means many have been left with nothing.

This is a big deal. As someone who works in a methadone clinic, I can’t even begin to tell you the number of people who were prescribed opioids for chronic pain (irresponsibly and recklessly at times) by their doctors, became dependent on them, were rapidly dropped by their doctors due to the very reasons brought up in this video, and started seeking illicit opioids as a results. We need more love, compassion, and genuine concern for the well being of others in our medical and political systems. This new metric is a very important step in that.

@9879SigmundS

4 жыл бұрын

Just Love, Man, government involvement is the fault. In the 80s and 90s the feds were pushing opioids. Now, the feds threaten doctors. Don’t trust government.

@McMomfaceplustwo

3 жыл бұрын

Many times patients need those high doses and then get dropped. Their doses and treatment gets labeled reckless and their need for pain relief labeled addiction. I know of some from patient groups who have to go to methadone clinics bc it's the only medicine available to them for pain treatment.

If only I had a doctor as ethical as this man . I am only receiving a small amount of hydrocodone and my pain is getting worse. Around 4 years ago, the doctor at the pain clinic I go to told me that he could never increase my dosage no matter what. So about a year and a half ago my back pain got worse and now in addition to that my feet are painful and swollen making it difficult to walk , When I tell my pain doctor about this, he completely goes blank and ignores me. What is going on makes you feel suicide is the only thing you can do to escape the awful situation of your pain and you becoming a liability.

@jaceconverse6337

Жыл бұрын

Well I can reply to my own comment here. So this guy has the right ideas but don't ask him for help to find a doctor like him or ask him to be your doctor. I have gotten so desperate that I emailed Kertesz and asked him if there were any doctors in my area that shared his opinions on pain treatment. I was thinking if he answered me with a no, I'd ask him if I moved to Birmingham , would it be possible for him to accept me as a patient. He never even replied at all. So yeah he has great ideas as long as you don't bother him . If you contact him, he does not even have the courtesy to reply.

I think the medical establishment needs to think outside the box and stop reacting to fear. I speak with clients every day who take pain medication but are not getting the dose that removes the pain.

@MrNicoJac

4 жыл бұрын

It's even debatable if "removing the pain" is the right goal. There are undoubtedly conditions where the pain goes later than the mind. Oversimplified: the only way to not feel pain can require being drugged into a half-conscious state. Just goes to show how terribly complicated pain can be.

@dennisshivers5986

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrNicoJac When i was on my high dosage for 25 yrs I could function be able to contribute and never once was I in a "half conscious state"

@DonnaRatliff1

4 жыл бұрын

@MrNikoJac No one always expects to be completely out of pain but have it reduced to a level to be able to function & have some quality of life. There were many patients who held jobs, had mortgages and children but now they're not able to work much less get out of bed now. They've lost their homes because the other spouse if one exists can't afford everything in their own pay. And btw, patients on long term opiate- pain medication therapy even at high doses are not high at all and certainly are not half knocked out. You must have been over medicated. You should have either been switched to a different med or found a dose where you could function without feeling that way. Or possibly you were just taking too much on your own. I'd be interested to hear how your managing your pain now? Or possibly you don't have pain anymore. Just wanted to state some facts that many people have been mislead by watching MSM for the past several years.

@dennisshivers5986

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrNicoJac I dont expect my pain to go away completely. I just want to be able to function and contribute like I was for 25 yrs on a high dosage.Never got "high" never ran out of meds b4 I never had to increase dosage..It can be done! Im proof!!

@MDAdams72668

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrNicoJac I as a chronic pain patient agree You have to INDIVIDUALLY balance the pros and cons like any med. For me to be pain-free I would be a zombie however when I had my medications in the appropriate "high doses" I was able to care for myself, exercise, garden on good days and sleep most nights. I was not zombified and regained muscle mass, cardiovascular health, slept well many nights, and wasn't looking forward to death. In the 2 yrs since I was cut back to an ineffectual arbitrary dose I have become chair/bedridden, never sleep well, have lost all my strength, have high BP, and my cortisol levels are through the roof the pain is killing me(literally).

you would think the metric to be counted was "number of patients helped" but no its "number of pills" The question is why??

One of the best and real "truth" Tedtalks. Thank you and continue your work!

Don't let this fade! Keep sharing 💛✌

You landed everything perfectly from so many different perspectives. Thank you so much for your outreach to the professionals and the patients to shine a light on something that has gone so far south that there is fear on both sides of the line these days. Terribly sad, but fixable.

I can only say that the epidemic has caused it to be difficult for almost everyone to receive medicine for pain. I am one of them. The government only cares for the bottom line. The individual does not count in these matters anymore.

Thank you Dr. Kertesz ! I am one of thousands being FORCED Off my pain medicine!

"How will we know when the prescription number is low enough?" No one should be fabricating a metric on this issue to create policy (to further their careers). We should maximize individual autonomy and force individuals to accept personal responsibility for their risks - equal access to legal drugs in a marketplace. Picking a metric for success by averaging individuals is immoral (for more than one reason). The emphasis on a metric at all is immoral. The emphasis related to pain and addiction, when we know very little about qualia, should be maximizing individual autonomy and forcing people to accept personal responsibility for the risks they take. Social justice outrage and the push to "DO SOMETHING!" has resulted in the elevation of science above explanation. Science is an error correction tool that can be used to falsify bad parts of ideas. It doesn't serve as proof that any theory is true. It enables us to weigh explanations. Equal opportunity to access legal technology is what we should be aiming to achieve with rulemaking policy - not an equal outcome championed by social justice activists who want to "save every last person...because...the CHILDREN!" Both major political parties are supporting an ineffective, overreaching, wasteful bureaucracy and "recovery" nonprofit industry which presents self-help and woo medicine in place of safely manufactured medicine that has existed since the beginning of recorded human history. Terrible ideas about science, economics, and governing are causing preventable suffering, suicides, and overdoses every day. This is a genocide of disabled, injured veterans, and elderly Americans. Our most vulnerable citizens have been essentially labeled lepers by leaders on both the left and right who support false authority. For reasons related to both ignorance and corruption, many people want an even larger bureaucracy enforcing collective authority and socialized healthcare - without the ability to buy effective medicine in a fair marketplace.

@alicelascaux7222

4 жыл бұрын

Yowza, love how you literally spelled this out in no uncertain terms. Clear & concise. But Lordy, it's chock full of common sense!! Who of those in power is brave enough to take this and run?!? ... Hullo?!?

@brookeshow

4 жыл бұрын

Very well said. The problem is illegal drugs. What's there to figure out? The US takes the lazy easy safe way...go after doctors and patients, not drug dealers and distributors. The CDC lied for years, reporting all OD deaths were prescription drugs...because they refused to separate illicit fentanyl from prescribed. They got their numbers just in time for the states' pharma lawsuits. They still don't record OD deaths accurately. I mean, how difficult is it to search a dead person's prescription records? Zero opioid prescription equals zero death caused by a prescription.

@alicelascaux7222

4 жыл бұрын

@@brookeshow The CDC lies. Period. Can't trust them. Or the FDA. or the USDA or the FBI Or the CIA Or the NSA... Or the DoD None of them. for me the lay of the land is crystal clear

@MDAdams72668

4 жыл бұрын

Nail meet hammer

@gaylea.griffin9733

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a senior citizen on disability. I’m a legacy patient being made to force taper. It was to fast of a taper for my makeup. Can’t sleep blood pressure is up seriously etc. I truly feel like the Drs etc are killing me. I’ve never abused and followed Drs rules. Hopefully people will try to do something to the millions of seniors being treated unfairly and unethically. I’ve lost my faith in Drs. This has been a nightmare. Ty for summing it up.

Thank you for this video! I need pain killers, I have chronic pain. I have tried medical marijuana and I don’t like to be high. I have tried many things. But my doctor asked me not to come back, they sent a registered letter telling me to find another doctor.

@unkelfaka6216

4 жыл бұрын

Kratom

@yokyu2lea

4 жыл бұрын

Try alternative therapies, healing veggies and fruits, acupuncture, exercises, etc.

@barb7124

4 жыл бұрын

@@yokyu2lea if you cannot work and are on SSDI you cant afford good food and alternative therapies.

@opalightorro375

4 жыл бұрын

Look into the benefits of Kratom, try it for yourself. Check out videos " I am kratom" many testimonials.

FYI, my father-in-law was killed by taking NSAIDS. He had been told they weren’t the best thing for him and was prescribed and opioid. But he had a terrible fear of them so never took them.

Addiction is still a mystery to us because we unfortunately spent billions on the war against drugs instead of spending that money to actually help people quit it

@GlobalFreeLiving

4 жыл бұрын

The war on drugs was planned by the CIA.. 100% intentional. The Opioid crisis is 100% planned and intentional. The FDA makes us sick... intentional. Scientist told the FDA not to sell artificial sugar to the public... it caused horrible illnesses... the FDA ignored the scientist and put it on the market. It's all about money.

@Littlebit894

4 жыл бұрын

@@GlobalFreeLiving 👍👍👍...100% accurate and the true pain patients are committing suicide. While big brother is taking care of us...what a horrible joke....trying to survive with all this help is killing us...sad state of humanity...

@LifeVersity

4 жыл бұрын

@@GlobalFreeLiving I agree completely! just checked out your channel btw. Nice of you to provide services for those in need. chk out r/selfsufficancy on reddit all about getting off the grid

@birdman12311

4 жыл бұрын

Portugal figured it out!!

@kellyhoward6941

4 жыл бұрын

@@birdman12311 so true! Reading the stats of what happened there after they decriminalized everything is just mind-blowing.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

"Picking a metric for success it crucial for doing good in the world - but you have to pick the right one". Call out the deceptive logic of this prescription control that pays no mind to whether people live or die, it's the logic of the body count. too true.

Thank you .It's horrible WE are treated so badly

You know... I'm so happy I found TedX Talks. This channel always offers such great information. Also, you make it so easy for anyone to understand, which means your reaching more people. That's wonderful! Thank you! ♥

Thank you so much for this lecture! I am a victim of the CDC guidelines. There is no more "First do no Harm" in the Hippocratic oath. Again thank you!

Don’t settle for good enough; don’t settle for getting by. Get your passion back and go after the destiny that belongs to you.

@darryldingleberry5422

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

That was a brilliant presentation. Clearly stated, logically correct. Correct me if I am wrong, he said, a metric that was measured with the intent of doing good for the people inadvertently resulted in detriment for the people. Fortunately this is now recognised at the highest level and the detriment can be stopped, giving the good intent a chance to succeed.

@nenadjuric8824

4 жыл бұрын

correct

Excellent talk, but two years later and things have only become worse for Chronic Pain Patients

I am a chronic pain patient. Major cervical trauma result of a car accident (not my fault). In the past 6 years I've undergone 5 major spinal surgeries. I can't begin to describe how much it's affected me. I'm currently in the process of receiving treatment from dignitas in Switzerland as I've reached an impasse in which I can no longer sustain the daily torture I endure. And honestly knowing full well it's all a joke to the drs who can prescribe life saving meds who use algorithms and percentages to designate addicts like narxcare, it's not worth continuing to even try to find someone to help. But as I may lose my life to this bullsh*t I can only pray that someday soon, the taboo talks of opioid use for chronic pain reach the mainstream. And others are spared. I'm 40 and my life is over. I've done the best I could and fought as hard as I could.

My pain doctors reduced my medications drastically and repeated to get me down to the government guidelines and continued after knowing i was having cardiac issues as a result. I had at least 3 heart attacks damaging 1/3 of my heart with scarring and ischemia and it was all caused by uncontrolled pain and doctors ignorance and lack of care. Its been 3 years and i am still going downhill hill but im not even 40 yet! They have taken my life from me and wont even acknowledge it.

I can't believe what I am hearing, and yet I know it's true. I trust this man's knowledge. Surely there's some place we can go to report this or join in the fight, does anyone know?

@alexandradb465

4 жыл бұрын

Find Don't Punish the Pain Rally on FB. there are also several other groups on Facebook that you can join. Thank you for asking. Chronic pain patients number 40 + million Americans, and millions more world wide.

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

Please, join us! Chronic pain patients saw this coming from the very beginning and we were entirely ignored when we spoke up. We have been stigmatized right along with the medications that we take to provide us physical function and therefore, provide quality of life! We NEED people to speak up. This isn't just about us, though. It's about the future of healthcare. Its about knowing that if you or someone that you love need to proper pain control, that it is indeed there for you. This is absolutely about human lives. Almost every day, I see where someone else has given up the fight. I see patients being miserably undertreated in hospitals. It's so surreal and heartbreaking. We need more support to turn this thing around before it continues to destroy the lives of the "unintended victims".

@McMomfaceplustwo

3 жыл бұрын

His words are all too true.

Getting my meds taken away drove me to try the fake fentanyl for relief. I almost died. Thanks for looking out for me. I fought my way out of opioid use and now just stay in bed waiting to die.

@aylbdrmadison1051

4 жыл бұрын

I hope that you get some healing soon. ^-^

GOD BLESS YOU!!!

God bless you and thank U

I have nerve damage in my head ,I also have Poly nueropathy .Plus 5 more painful conditions .I was treated so badly. I went to the emergency room three times because I was having bouts of occipital neuralgia I did not know what it was they put me in a hallway with a bunch of drug addicts didn't put a cap on me and laughed at me and the nurse said two words the doctor just asked me to leave I've had I've had so many more incidents of being treated so poorly my doctor called me a faker then when the reports came in he apologized this is a harsh of pain patients we are being tortured and killed off slowly thank you your nightmares are true this is happening daily I was a healthy woman who and 6 miles a day you never know when this can happen to you and this is got to stop this is torture of American pain patients thank you so much Dr 🙏 ♥

Legalisation and Regulation

THANK YOU !!

Health care is a public service, to run that public service for private profit is the error.

Physical labor and life hurts it's painful getting older .It's only a problem when you deny people what they need and want. I don't understand why humans love to hate. Its as if many want to make others suffer. For millennia opioids have existed yet only once has it made history in China yet the past 80 years we see so many country's outlaws and dictate drugs .alcohol included. Its not that it's something new it's just that more have had more access.

Thanks for that

Great one! thanks. with respects, Prakash

Dr Kertesz ; THANKS 🙏🏼 SOO MUCH !! WE ALL KNOW THIS IS TRUE !!! WHAT CAN WE DO ???? Please tell me ???!! I’m dying out here !!!! Cannot use both my arms without sufficient pain meds !!

yet, a patient just told me yesterday that her daughter had her wisdom teeth removed. the surgeon prescribed the kid 30 vicodin ES!!! when the mom said she only wanted 3-4 the doctor wouldnt change the script and said to basically take the 30 script or nothing!!!!!

@McMomfaceplustwo

3 жыл бұрын

This is extraordinarily rare I'm the past many years. I had all my teeth removed for dentures and was offered 3 Tylenol 3.

@urbanothepopeofdeath

3 жыл бұрын

@@McMomfaceplustwo well having teeth removed to place full dentures usually means the remaining teeth PROBABLY had little bone support hence making the extractions much easier on both the doctor and patient. But it is true that the Rx I had described is fortunately becoming the minority.

@McMomfaceplustwo

3 жыл бұрын

@@urbanothepopeofdeath Unfortunately that was not the case. The teeth were just problems bc of immune disorder and connective tissue disorder. There were dozens of stitches afterwards. Prescriptions for painful incurable confit are also hard to come by. People in rare instances that get offered more than they need can take what they need and either put the rest in a safe for if they need it in the future or turn it in to the Pharm or police station. Patients not given enough have no options. I’ve spent my whole life in pain and was able to go through gradschool bc of adequate treatment. When the crackdown on scripts started, my pain was unmanaged and I had to leave my career and the workforce. I’ve gone through some patient advocate training and there are so many horror stories and sadly deaths from both suicide and heart attack related to under treated pain.

@urbanothepopeofdeath

3 жыл бұрын

@@McMomfaceplustwo I capitalized "probably" for a reason. And I was shocked about this story of mine as well. I had to retire from dentistry because of the pain I endure everyday. Getting the necessary medicine is like jumping thru hoops. It is a terrible situation I agree and those who actually dont abuse the system are the ones who are paying the price.

Very interesting and inspiring.

My insurance won't even pay for my pain meds I have to pay out of pocket every month and the doctors are afraid to prescribe ones that work to control the pain because of this

Let’s start by getting treatments like massage and acupuncture covered by all insurance. Give us real options.

@nikkibb1998

4 жыл бұрын

That would help some but not all. It's never did anything for me

@angelique707

4 жыл бұрын

Nicole Bradley which one massage or acupuncture? The point is there are options that can help, but insurance funnels us into the offices of whoever lobbies them. It’s a rigged game. Same with psychedelics. Give us options and we’ll be able to find what works for us as individuals.

@MrKongatthegates

4 жыл бұрын

They dont have science to back them up. Waste of money.

@angelique707

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Lee there’s plenty of science and research around the world. We don’t fund this kind of research here because lobbyist. Research here is a joke.

@forgetmeplease1414

4 жыл бұрын

For someone like me with fibromyalgia... A misunderstood and mislabeled disease... It's proven to be a neurological autoimmune disease with real inflammation... Our mitochondria don't produce energy. We actually need treatment for mitochondrial myopathy... A cocktail of strong supplements injected by IV... Not what insurance covers which are antidepressants or epileptic medicine... None of which addresses what is actually wrong with us. So yes... There needs to be a huge door opened where treatment can't be discriminated by insurance or government regulations. Healthcare is not a one size fits all.

Include letters from state medical boards populated by anti opiate zealots.

@ScooterClues

2 жыл бұрын

You're spot on, and this needs investigated - because it still is a crime in progress, Andrew Kolodny, Jane Ballantyne had a, front row seat at the CDC, and Anna Lemke and many others at PROP should be ashamed of ANY association with PROP!

I consume morphine daily for pain.

Where is the Letter please, from the many providers and insurers to CDC?

Undertreated chronic pain can make a person toss that idea around.

Me encantó más videos genial 🌏 🎶 🌠

We need the focus of the prison system to be on rehabilitation

Yes. I’ve been in practice as an internist (PCP), then hospitalist, now Medical Director of Care Management at my hospital in the Pacific Northwest. The horror of the realization that my practice habit as a PCP during the marketing of OxyContin leading patients that I might have seen to illicit drug use and potential death by overdose, or suicide driven by withdrawal is frankly overwhelming to me as a physician whose entire professional purpose is to help patients. We have started an aggressive Opioid Program which is Suboxone-based through our ED, and for medical inpatients applying to all patients identified as chronic narcotic dependent, both elicit and by prescription. It is a multidisciplinary team of of addiction specialists combined with extensive outpatient follow-up, and we have been very successful helping these folks. One of my goals in my current role is to engage as many inpatient providers as I can to become certified and skilled in the use of Suboxone, whether they use the skill themselves or defer to our Opioid Program for consultation. The barrier I unfortunately face all too often is resistance from providers themselves who somehow feel that this training is not important for their practice. Which is wrong. Thank you for the talk. I will forward it to my Medical Staff and use your points in a Grand Rounds I’m giving next quarter when we reveal our metrics regarding what we consider extraordinarily positive results in which we have transitioned willing patients to Suboxone and significantly reduced repeat ED visits, hospital readmissions, Length of Stay, and most importantly, outpatient continuity medical care of patients who are not overdosing or committing suicide. Than you again for the talk and for speaking out.

@unkelfaka6216

4 жыл бұрын

Its harder to get off subs than opioids. Its all the same. Legal herion.

@katvtay

4 жыл бұрын

Clinicians having an ability to prescribe Buprenorphine is very important. However, it is disturbing that the new thing-despite evidence-is to get 100% of patients on LTOT to switch to Buprenorphine. Buprenorphine should be reserved for those with OUD or for those who are not being well managed on increasingly higher doses of other opioids. This push to put all LTOT patients on it? Absolute insanity. Shame on anyone for pushing this.

@kellyhoward6941

4 жыл бұрын

You sound like a person with a conscience, which is good, but I hate to burst your bubble...suboxone/buprenorphine abuse is about the biggest growth addiction in the country. It's not a miracle cure, doesn't do much for most people's pain, & if someone is determined to get high, they're going to do it no matter what.

Literally the issue i am facing as a patient that plays by the rules!

Hello from Casablanca

I wish we dealt with the crack epidemic 30 years ago. Addiction is a sickness, not a crime

""Zamericanenglish"" is the best channel for any one want or think to learn English easy and fun and without getting bored .("this advice is for the Arab people)" 👌👌

@smartyacin9021

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. That's right 100%

@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733

4 жыл бұрын

Amine Belalia Relevance?

@poetflows

4 жыл бұрын

That is not the DISCUSSION here. You are on a totally different subject 😳

CIERRA BRIANNA OTTO 9/24/96 to 10/27/2019

@aylbdrmadison1051

4 жыл бұрын

Rest in peace Cierra.

@melaniebiglake8258

4 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry for your loss..

@McMomfaceplustwo

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope there's something after where the pain is gone.

Whoever sees this I hope you follow your dreams! Mine is to be a successful guitar KZreadr.

Kratom and legalize all drugs.

@eleanorkacik1583

4 жыл бұрын

Please know kratom isn’t 4 every1!

@unkelfaka6216

4 жыл бұрын

@@eleanorkacik1583 Please explain why?

@nikkibb1998

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Kratom doesn't help my pain. Neither does cannabis.

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

@@unkelfaka6216 It does not work to control pain for everyone, much like the way that marijuana doesn't work for everyone. There are a variety of pain medications out there, slightly different formulas and such, because no one is suited for everyone. We all have different "builds". Some people lack the necessary enzyme to even metabolize certain things. That may be the case with Kratom. Of course, we might know for sure if they would approve study in the US. Kratom does work for me. I am grateful for that. But really, people need to have access to different forms of pain management, because everyone's needs and biological makeup is different.

@unkelfaka6216

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThisAlphaWolf Oh I get it. Thanks for that. Legalize growing your own poppies. Legalize all drugs. Pain management clinics that will help get off medication also. Natural is the best.

FDA legally prescribed opioids--antianxiety--antidepressants--antipsychotics etc. causes suicidal/homicidal tendencies and ideation by Dr.Ann Blake Tracy---

What can you do if you don’t want opioid pain killer’s, is medical marijuana the answer ? I quit smoking marijuana 7 months ago but the pain is greater, can’t take the pain , what do you advice me to do.?

@garyslater685

4 жыл бұрын

Cherry health center maybe?

@Srverde25

4 жыл бұрын

Try kratom. It helps me quite a bit. Not as effective as opioids but better than nothing.

@opalightorro375

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, try kratom. It helped my husband and my 65 yr old mother in law.

Gonna tell my kids this was Bob Saget

I want to learn English,pelease is there anyone who can help me?

So if you're on pain pills you're considered a liability... Perfect... To be honest if that was their plan all along I would not be surprised.

Good talk but the guy said you need a dr's prescription to get opioids... opioids include things like Kratom that don't need a prescription. Kind of odd he included a seemingly misinformed statement like that

@jamesec1949

4 жыл бұрын

Jack Wright Kratom is not an opioid.

@rluc3634

4 жыл бұрын

Kratom doesn’t work for everyone n everyone’s pain

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

Kratom works on SOME of the same receptors in the brain, as opioids do. That's where the misinformation is. It is not made from an opium poppy or synthesized to be chemically similar. It very much is it's own plant. By all means, fact check my statements.

@barb7124

4 жыл бұрын

Kratom is not an opioid. Keep talking like that and you'll get it banned.

@jackwright3996

4 жыл бұрын

All of you are able to use youtube but not google wonderful lmaooo

Does anyone know why people usually want to commit suicide when being weaned off this medication? I understand it most likely happens for people that take strong opioids (street drugs), but is it the same for patients that take prescription medications, i.e, hydrocodone? Please advise.

@katemarie6962

4 жыл бұрын

They want to die because being in severe, unrelenting pain makes you want to die. Imagined being physically tortured forever. Zero quality of life.

@rightthewrong6050

4 жыл бұрын

@@katemarie6962 ... Thank you Kate. ♥

@rightthewrong6050

4 жыл бұрын

@@viracocha .. Thank you..

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

Kate Mills is spot on. Some of us feel like we have severe, acute injuries every day of our lives and know that they will never get better, never go away (which makes them 'chronic'). No cures. In some people, it's a lot like being sentenced to death, to have your medication taken away. Because that's exactly what it is. You will be confined to your home and life will pass you by, because you hurt too badly and there is nothing that you can do about it. There is a surefire way out. I want to make clear here, that this is the POTENTIAL thought process of a pain patient. It was my thought process, as well. Emphasis on the 'was'. Fortunately for me, Kratom picked up where the medication left off. It doesn't work for everyone, granted. But it did work for me. Matter of fact it probably literally saved my life. Although it works for me, I can't afford to treat myself every day. This is why we need to restore access to ADEQUATE pain management, for ALL patients. If your mmj works well enough for you, fantastic! If you can afford to buy it or Kratom all of the time and no longer want to be on pharmaceuticals, good for you! I'm happy for you. But for people like me, where Kratom works but doesn't control some types of pain as well as medications did, I would choose to go back onto the medications in a heartbeat. Because I deserve to have a life too.

@barb7124

4 жыл бұрын

Opioids numb emotional and physical pain. The pain comes back full force plus withdrawal. If you make it thru detox, your brain is still unable to make it's own feel good chemicals as opiates put the brains natural painkillers to sleep. It is call post acute withdrawal. It is the worst emotional agony where the only relief is drugs or suicide.

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ressemble trop à françois hollande

"Just say no. What's so hard about that?" ~Dave Chapelle

Il a géchan François Hollande 😅

Hlw

people will always have problems so they will always get high. can't you create a synthetic endorphin that's not harmful or addicting so they can still get their "healthy" fix?

@McMomfaceplustwo

3 жыл бұрын

And people also need these meds for pain control, not to get high. Those needing pain relief and those needing endorphiy shouy both be treated compassionately.

@debmckinley815

3 жыл бұрын

There's already natural plants that are very effective for depression, addiction and suicide prevention. Unfortunately our government has made it a schedule 1 narcotic so scientist had to stop clinical trials. They have recently resumed and 60% of those with intractable depression were no longer clinically depressed after a single dose and No one is able to become addicted by using it! Fortunately Oregon had been bold enough to make it available to clinics for treatment! I'm speaking of course of psilocybin and other psychotropics like MDMA, soon to be FDA approved for treatment of PTSD. we just need to use what we have and stop being a bunch of prudish "Christian" hypocrites!

The nature of addiction is insanity. Analysation is at best unproductive what is needed is effective rehabilitation

Second comment. 🎯

Try alternative therapies, healing veggies and fruits, acupuncture, exercises, magnets, stones, etc.

@alexandradb465

4 жыл бұрын

Those treatments are not covered by insurance and most people can't afford the cost out of pocket. You're talking about thousands of dollars a year but no one has. What happened to quality of life? I have to choose between cooking dinner for my family or taking a shower and getting dressed. I have to choose between doing a load of laundry and dusting the house; forget about vacuuming, I can't do that anymore. I get massage therapy but I'm lucky that we can afford it, our insurance will not cover it. I don't ask for the pain to completely go away I asked for it to be held at a manageable level. Additionally, all those alternatives that you listed don't work for everyone... even if they can afford to get them.

@rluc3634

4 жыл бұрын

Lol Those things don’t work on diseases these are diseases inside the body that a fruit laying on your body a stone acupuncture a needle going in your skin will not touch these are diseases

@barb7124

4 жыл бұрын

People that cant get out of bed dont have that kind of money.

@yokyu2lea

4 жыл бұрын

@@KniDonovan Hmmm, how can you be so convinced you need a prescription for a medicine, if you don't even know what causes your pain? Have you tried to heal yourself as a hole (mind and body) and checked your environment that it is not toxic? Maybe you just have an allergie to something and you don't know it. I used to have pain in my hands, and I got prescribed some medicine that did not help. And after many years trying things, I discovered it was just an allergy to lactose, sugar, flour and cereals, plus a deficiency of vitamin D and B.

@timmer9lives

4 жыл бұрын

Alternative therapies like acupuncture can help. I went to an acupuncture doctor trained with a degree from Beijing University of Chinese Medicine. He was a Chinese immigrant and was the real deal. That said... it was expensive and did not relieve pain at the same level as pain Rx’s . At the same time I was getting acupuncture I also went to a deep tissue massage therapist twice weekly. Between those two therapies I was spending thousands of dollars yearly and not as active nor as pain free as opioid treatment from a licensed neurologist. I know and understand pain and do everything in my power to manage it responsibly. As do most verifiable pain patients with chronic pain.

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The only measurement "we need" is the one that shows the benefits to society from the subtraction of its worst elements. :)

@thronton123

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, more deaths as he just stated

@archenema6792

4 жыл бұрын

@@thronton123 Mother Nature loves her brood by allowing her sister, Natural Selection, to take those who would only make them weaker. It is cruel, but it is also necessary.

@kellyhoward6941

4 жыл бұрын

So, are you going to get to decide who the "worst elements" are? My first vote for worst element is Andrew Kolodny, unindicted murderer.

Just smoke natural home grown weed for your pain.

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't work for everyone. Wish it did.

@barb7124

4 жыл бұрын

Medical mj sent me into schizo psychosis. It doesnt work for everyone.

@silverhairdemon

4 жыл бұрын

@@barb7124 Yeah true, not everyone is the same...sorry to hear... I heard Falun Gong or dafa might work . The Chinese government is very fearful of that spiritual practice . And people that do that practice everyday become healthy. You may like to take a closer look into that, good luck.

@angelique707

4 жыл бұрын

Alpha Wolf it doesn’t have to work for everyone. But it’s an option and that’s what we need. More options. They’re cutting back on opioids but what are they replacing it with? More drugs made by big pharm companies for more profit.

NOT TRUE!!! Hope to GOD you don’t still believe this!

Just say no ,what's so hard about that.

@DutchieThePitty

Жыл бұрын

In a perfect world maybe that would apply...but not everyone thinks the same.. people who struggle with addiction cannot deal with nor process mental & emotional pain....

Lock those junkies and doctors up and throw away the key

@scottgoodson5132

4 жыл бұрын

If you had chronic, severe pain, I bet you’d change your tune. Patients in pain management are not junkies!

@regantlew15

4 жыл бұрын

@@scottgoodson5132 I think the only people that should be excluded from punishment are those people that have chronic pain. There are a lot of people using the drugs to get high and those people along with the doctors that over prescribe for $$$ and not the wellbeing of their patients should be locked up.

@regantlew15

4 жыл бұрын

@@viracocha no sh!t sherlock , u dont say lol

@katvtay

4 жыл бұрын

regantlew15 Except it’s not true. Most people prescribed it for legitimate medical purpose do not “get high.” That’s another false narrative that conflates recreational users who smoke or inject an illicit narcotic with actual patients prescribed pharmaceutical narcotics.

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

@@viracocha Incorrect. If you are opioid naive, perhaps, but chronic pain patients do not get "high" off of their medications. The medication does what it was designed to do and that is to quell pain. They have the POTENTIAL and unfortunate side effect of euphoria IF a person is to take them in a way that is not in line with taking them for pain alone. Which would be as directed. What is that called when you take them in a way that isn't "as directed" you ask? OPIOID ABUSE. There is your answer. You're welcome.

This guy is exactly why the general public thinks that doctors paid off by drug companies. More opioids, more opioids!

@thronton123

4 жыл бұрын

Your the problem, you refuse to see the truth, the facts right in front of you, its people like you that are inflicting the harms, and causing more deaths in both the addicts and people in pain.

@pandora-is-here

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Everyone is called a Pharma shill if they go against mainstream media propaganda.I will hope that if you get crushed in a car accident you’ll be fine with Tylenol.

Do not use drugs.

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

Do NOT develop pain.

@chris86simon

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, dont get sick 4head!

@ThisAlphaWolf

4 жыл бұрын

@@yourmastergggg4402 Oh goody. Another genius.