We NEED to Have a REAL Discussion About the Bahrain GP | Recap and Reaction | F1

Well Max Verstappen and Red Bull cleaned the floor with the rest of the field at the Bahrain Grand Prix. And everyone is going to be upset that Red Bull is dominant still. But I am more upset that the other teams, of F1, didn't show up to the 2024 season more prepared. Join me in the Bahrain GP recap, and listen to my reaction on the problem that Formula 1 faces if the other teams don't figure it out.
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  • @stanhoppe2232
    @stanhoppe22323 ай бұрын

    I am a Max Verstappen fan, but I get your frustration. The thing about F1 is that when there are new regulations for the car and a team hits the sweetspot like Redbull did in this era and Mercedes did the previous one, it’s very difficult to stop that. Because teams automatically start copying the best car. And the thing is that once you start copying a concept that isn’t originally yours, it’s extremely difficult to keep developing it to something better. Let alone creating something better than the team that made the original concept. This is what you see with Perez. But there’s just one other factor in this matter. It’s Max himself. He has the rare talent of setting up the car and having extremely fast pace while managing tires. He is faster than 90% of the field whilst managing than they are pushing. His raw talent for the sport is something that is amazing but can also be frustrating sometimes. It’s just the way it is. Try to see the beauty of his driving skills and talent.

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    Interesting. Because in an American sport like the NFL, it is a copycat league as well. Like if I have a great offensive scheme that gets the most out of the particular players I have, then the next season a lot of other teams try to find similar players with similar skillsets. But like you said you just can copy the scheme. You have to innovate it as well. And the team that innovates the scheme they copied, tends to be the best competitor against the reigning champ. And it is usually close amongst the top 5 teams in the league. So my frustrations aren't with Red Bull or Verstappen. Its really with the opposing teams, that I have been told are also good (Ferrari, Mercedes, and McLaren). So with all the knowledge of racing from Hamilton and Wolff, and Vasseur with the talents of Leclerc, and the prestige that both those teams have, they can't find the engineers to replicate and innovate. That's why I am frustrated. I was sold a bill of goods, mainly by Ferrari, and they showed up unable to have their #1 driver's car set to his liking... at P2 starting grid. It's only the first race, long season. Maybe I was asking too much from the teams not named Red Bull, and with some more exposure to the sport I'll find the patterns better. But that's why I created the channel, to share the experience of the newer fan, and not just some expert that thinks his words are important. I appreciate your comment for sure though!!

  • @krpp
    @krpp3 ай бұрын

    I think the problem with F1 right now is that the engineering side isn't as competitive, and driver skill doesn't matter as much as the car itself right now. I'm no Max hater by any means, but even ignoring him the races don't feel as competitive. Placement seems to be by what team you're on more than anything.

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    I was wondering that too. Cuz I’m not saying it’s easy. But I mean engineering and laws of physics have been known for awhile. So it does surprise me that engineers in the sport aren’t closer together when it comes to designing and producing performance. Idk. I think I’m still to new to the sport to start criticizing engineers at this point.

  • @krpp

    @krpp

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheDeltaF1 On the contrary, things like fluid dynamics and material science are very complicated and breakthroughs are very rare. F1 enforces the rule that innovations like this cannot be patented, to avoid one team having monopoly over specific tech. But this tech isn't revealed publicly either. Other teams have to work with reverse engineering publicly available data to figure this out. Which is also really hard to do. I think the sport could benefit from having teams just make their R&D for the year public after every season.

  • @LBCuracao
    @LBCuracao3 ай бұрын

    Dutch Max fan here. Believe me when I say; I like seeing max win, but not by a country mile. I had hoped for Merc and Ferrari to really step it up and bring it to max. Or to see Checo back in form and challenging max to the end. Nope! Just 2023 pt 2. I’m not mad at max or RB, it’s all the other teams that can’t seem to be bothered to compete at the front. I’m just gonna ignore everything RB this year and make it more enjoyable for myself. I’m also going to the Miami and Spa races so still hoping for some action at the front. Good video dude, good enjoyable rant!

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your support. I don’t hate Max or Red Bull either. At least not because they are good. I don’t like them cuz I’m a Ferrari fan. I’m with you. I’m upset that it seemed like no one else stepped up to the challenge. But it has been brought to my attention that it’s only the first race. And Jeddah is significantly different. And let some of the season play out. Maybe Mercedes and Ferrari step up as the season progresses. Maybe the RB20 isn’t as reliable. Lots of things can happen. Super jealous that you’re going to Miami. I know it’s not the best or most exciting track. But it’s my track in my time zone. So I support it and get super excited for it.

  • @LBCuracao

    @LBCuracao

    3 ай бұрын

    We’re all Ferarri fan according to Vettel lol. But yea I get what you’re saying. I do suspect that Max and the RB20 are on point this year, the team seems to be doing ok despite current situation, but that gap at the end was double what it was last year. I hope to see the other teams do waaaay better in Jeddah otherwise Max may just make it a clean sweep this year. I’d love to see Alonso get his 33rd win, Lando his first and so on while Max gets the title but who is it even possible with Max almost never having an off day. Someone is gonna have to make the sacrifice and punt Max in turn one or something. Again I say this as a massive Max fan 😂 Yea I’m super excited for the races (and broke) Miami wasn’t my first choice but my dad really wanted to go for some reason. Spa I’m going solo and posting up in the bushes hehehe. Still looking for someone to join me though.

  • @bsylvester713
    @bsylvester7133 ай бұрын

    You see, you're not a true fan, you're just a Max hater. I have been watching Formula 1 since black and white television. F1 is all about dominance and true fans appreciate the dominance. McLaren won almost every race in the 1980s, Williams won almost every race in the 1990s, Ferrari won almost every race in the 2000s and Mercedes won almost every race in the 2010s. We sat there and enjoyed appreciating the brilliance of the drivers and the teams. THEY DESERVED TO DOMINATE BECAUSE THEY WERE THE BEST. Formula 1 is definitely not about close racing and entertainment. It's about appreciating brilliance. The Bahrain Grand Prix was absolutely enthralling. I sat there being amazed by Max Verstappen and his abilities lap after lap, corner after corner. He is the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time and anyone who doesn't agree is a hater. He will always be the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time until someone else starts winning, and then THEY will be the greater Formula 1 driver of all time and anyone who doesn't agree will be a hater. Hopefully this clears up Formula 1 for a newcomer like you 😉🤐😉

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    I never said I hate Max. I tried to get across, and maybe failed, that I’m disappointed with the 9, and particularly 4, other teams that showed up this year unprepared. And your knowledge and wisdom of the sport is admired, and I got a glimpse of that in the last race in Saudi Arabia. Learned to enjoy the racing outside of the front pack. Unfortunately, Formula 1 doesn’t care about your true love of Motorsport. They care about money, and particularly about the new money of the new fans in the new regions they are trying to grow. Like America and the Middle East. And to win those fans over, you need more 2021-like seasons than the other decades prior. I don’t have the answer. But I do know, as I’m growing to learn to love Formula 1, the majority of new fans don’t want Drive to Survive and fancy locations only. Those will bring ppl in. BUT if one team or one driver is dominating the sport, the viewers will turn it off. I totally understand your perspective, I feel that way about American football. I love my team whether they win the championship or only 2 games. But big picture, the leagues and organizations care about money. And the same old same old viewer base isn’t getting it done. So they need to get new viewers to spend their money, and Red Bull’s and Max’s dominance will not warrant those results. I appreciate you tuning in, and your perspective, because what you say, I’m starting to learn more recently. BUT I would say things would be a bit more entertaining if the top of the standing was a bit more tight throughout an entire season.

  • @bsylvester713

    @bsylvester713

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh no dude, I was just screwing with you. "I have been watching Formula 1 since black and white television" come on... 🤣😂 People like you really should watch FORMULA 2 and you can clearly see the difference in the quality of racing. There is no contest. It is far far far more intriguing, interesting and exciting than F1 these days. This season (2024) has been especially spectacular so far. If you have only watched since 2021 then you really are lucky. On F1TV they have archived a lot of the old seasons. Go and watch 2010 and 2012... the 2021 season has nothing on that. Don't spoil it for yourself by going onto wikipedia and seeing the results! Also, you may need to search the internet, but seek out some old classic 'wet' races. The 1996 Spanish Grand Prix, the 2000 European Grand Prix and the 1997 Monaco Grand Prix come to mind. It'll make you laugh next time they flow a red flag for a few spots of rain...

  • @reinier123
    @reinier1233 ай бұрын

    Teams definitely improved quite a bit compared to 2023. If you look at the Bahrain GP qualifying difference 2023 vs 2024 the results are pretty impressive. McLaren -1.767 RB -1.271 Williams -1.240 Haas -0.958 Mercedes -0.855 Ferrari -0.835 Aston Martin -0.794 Stake F1 -0.687 Red Bull -0.529 Alpine -0.121 However this didn't change the order dramatically. Even though Red Bull have more development and windtunnel constraints they still managed to maintain their lead while changing concepts. Others had to correct a faulty concept and went more in the RB19 direction. Perhaps they weren't able to do everything they wanted yet because of budget cap restraints and had to pick and choose. I'm convinced this race was not a template for the season, especially because Red Bull is quite weak comparatively on qualifying which means Max will qualify out of place and will have to make his way through the field. But he will most definitely be champion again, the combination of car and driver is just too good. I'm Dutch and a Max fan but of course everybody wants to see closer racing at the front end. I truly think the field is a bit closer, all though this race didn't really show it, so let's wait some more races. 👍🏻

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    Those numbers are definitely encouraging. Unfortunately, we saw last year, that 1 lap results didn't translate to race day very well. May be a Ferrari problem exclusively. But I just fear that when cars are fast, in decent conditions, on fresh softs, for one lap you are still not going to be able to compete with Red Bull for the full course of the race. Again, like having your P2 driver with catastrophic braking issues. Like a Mercedes, with overheating issues. I understand the real deal is different from testing. But I would have thought some of the issues we heard of on the track would have been resolved prior to race day. But I do appreciate this comment, because it gives some encouragement for Saudi Arabia. Especially because that track is pretty different than Bahrain. And I expect Verstappen to win, but I would like him to have to work for the win a little bit ya know? lol May I ask where you compiled that data? I am a very analytical and numbers driven individual. So I feel like if I could get some access to some more in-depth statistics I could come to better conclusions in the future. Thanks again for your support, and insight!

  • @reinier123

    @reinier123

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheDeltaF1 sorry, wrote a long reply with links but the comment got deleted. Guess YT won't let you post anything these days.

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    No worries. Appreciate the efforts 🙂

  • @1encognito
    @1encognito3 ай бұрын

    Whilst I get your take, the sport has always gone through periods of dominance by teams and drivers, its normal. Look at any league anywhere in the world and you will find stand out performers who deliver on a consistent basis. You said you yourself, it appears Red Bull are the only ones to take this championship stuff seriously. So why punish the team thats putting in the effort? I get we want to see competitive racing, but cutting teams and drivers down to bring the performance of other teams up, is just ludicrous. You may not have been here but were were having these same discussions years back during the "Get in there Lewis Era". As a racing fan, keep it pure. Red bull came into F1 as outsiders, they honed their philosophy and look what that got them with Seb and now Max. Red Bull championed pushing the limits and being the best on strategy when they didn't have the best machine, they took risks. Where is that attitude from the others?

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    Like I have said in other comments, I am not mad at Red Bull or Verstappen. It's not their fault they are miles ahead of the field. I watched my favorite NFL football team lose the Super Bowl this year. But the difference is they came into the season knowing the Chiefs are the gold standard. They fell short, but they left me, the fan, saying "You guys put everything out there, and did your best." And I feel like there are 9 other teams in F1 that just didn't take the offseason serious. I don't know why, I am not a team manager. I was just expecting a bit more push from the opposition, and I didn't see it. Only the first race, maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised as the season progresses. Just hard to believe that when I saw those time differences after the race

  • @hoolyh3270
    @hoolyh32703 ай бұрын

    here we got another fan from 2021......

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m not sure what that implies. I’m out here learning about the sport as any newer fan is. And if this has been the F1 experience for years, or decades, then the sport will struggle with growth. Especially in America. We don’t mind dominance. We are the home of the likes of Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. We know what greatness is. BUT we also don’t want the second best team not even being close to the competing. Predictable outcomes make it boring.

  • @julianpeschar1801

    @julianpeschar1801

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheDeltaF1 you can complain all you want but its not redbulls job to slow down or the FIA's job to purposefully handicap redbull to the point that they dont win anymore. Other teams just need to be better. It took until the last year of the last regulations + costcap breaches + an amazingly talented driver + a lot of luck to beat hamilton when he was the most dominant driver. 2017-2020 were all the same as it is now, 1 team dominating. Not as hard is now but still. F1 is a constuctor/car building sport first and foremost, and if teams build bad cars then they will lose. Cant blame redbull for having a good car. from the 2000's onwards 11 seasons where won by a 20 point margin or less, so more then half the seasons since 2000 were as boring as they are now, its a part of the sport. That makes those close seasons also way more fun to watch imo.

  • @thelonelyphish

    @thelonelyphish

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@julianpeschar1801you say that but the FIA made plenty of reactive rule changes to curb Mercedes, you remember DAS?

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree. That's why is said its a Ferrari, Mercedes, etc. problem. Not Red Bull's. And my frustration come down to the fact that Red Bull didn't suddenly just become great. The mopped the floor with the competition last year. So you would think if you're an F1 Team, especially a Ferrari or Mercedes, you'd be better... or at least promising in closing the gap. Unfortunately, I didn't see that leap at Bahrain.

  • @TheDeltaF1

    @TheDeltaF1

    3 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, I am new to this sport and missed the Mercedes Era. But I was curious how involved a the FIA and F1 in general gets if the gap gets too large. For instance, in the NFL there ever evolving and weird rules like veteran minimums in salaries, and obviously the worst team the previous season gets first selection at getting the best college player. I know that's not exactly 1 to 1. But just saying there are rules in place that prevent a team from just winning every game, every year, but 28+ points. That's why when we see a dynasty team in American sports, its something to behold, because it isn't supposed to happen. And if you are a fan of the worst team, you go into every season with hope.