I was out shooting with my son the other day and told him that out of a million shots I take, 99% are rubbish. He responded with, "That means you've taken 10,000 good shots". That cheered me up a bit.

@NigelDanson

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ha ha

@dbb8448

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classic

@JohnDrummondPhoto

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I don't know about your son's photography, but he'll make a great statistician. 😉😂

@brittonredline7072

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That's beautiful! I have a VERY long way to go!😁

Since I've been doing landscape photography for 45 years now I thought I'd offer my two cents. Even before I started doing photography, I loved being in the mountains. I sometimes tell people that photography gives me something to do instead of just standing there staring at the scenery. So, the first thing is that you have to love being out in nature. The second thing is that if you want to get the best photos, you have to be at the best places at the best times. I always say that this is one of the many reasons that I'm not a professional photographer. I've never been willing or able to get up at 4:00am to get a photo at 6:00am. But, if like me you do photography for the sheer joy of it, then you know your limitations and don't expect to get the best photos. Third, you don't need the latest and greatest equipment to get great photos. But, equipment does have to serve your needs and not limit what you are trying to do. Fourth, I would suggest learning from other photographers whose work you admire and respect, whether it be from social media, tours, books, or photographs. And finally, get out there and shoot. Nothing can replace hands on experience. If anyone reads this, I hope you have at least as much enjoyment as I've had over all these years doing landscape photography.

@CaleBorde

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This is one of the reasons that I started recently. I currently use a used T7 and some budget lenses, because if I can get the same joy with under $500 of camera gear, that others may end up spending well over $1000 to get, I'm happy.

Love the idea of a podcast, sort of a "round table" of landscape photogs discussing all things photography

The 4th tip hit home with me. I would go to a National Park and compare my photos with those in the gift shop. Very disappointing. One must realize someone has taken more time to get the perfect shot. They may have waited a whole year to get the right conditions. They may have taken hundreds of photos of the same scene to pick the best. As a hobbyist, it is more about the memory of being there rather than having a product to sell. I enjoy your cooperative videos. You all have wonderful perspectives on the same subject.

I love the format of this video. Four world class photographers answering questions with simple to understand responses. Please continue to take questions from your viewers. I found great value in the answers. Also, whether or not you get 5000 likes, please do the podcast. I believe it will be a hit and offers your viewers another avenue to hear your views on photography!

Yes, come to Canada! Every province and territory has amazing landscapes!

If you only enjoy fishing when you catch a big fish, few anglers would continue with it. Enjoy the time out with your camera. Exactly what James said.

The best advice I received was "learn what your camera's buttons and dials do." Followed closely by challenge yourself to use only one lens for a few weeks. Learn what you can accomplish with that lens.

So refreshing video, almost as having a cup of coffee chatting with professionals about realistic cases and photography challenges. 👍🏻

My brother a retired photojournalist-editor for Dallas Times Herald gave me the same advice as his cub photographers. Get out in the morning and the evening and take pictures!

That was incredibly enjoyable.

Would LOVE to see future podcasts Nigel.

Absolutely, I would enjoy watching a few videos of Nigel finding compositions in Denmark... I would definitely learn out of the process of walking into an environment that requires more work to pull out compositions. As it was shared by James, it is easier to let the environment, light, and weather do the heavy lifting. Perhaps, a lens challenge would be interesting. Kudos to all 4 of you.

I'd love another podcast to listen to while biking... make it happen guys!!

Great meeting with great photographers!

Birkenstocks and socks rock

I've wanted you guys to do a Q&A for ages!!! Amazing.

as time goes by, you're photography journey you spend together and shared with, will be remembered forever. Great conversation btw.

Really enjoyed James’ thoughts on instagram reels.

I say YES to a podcast from Nigel.

This was such a good talk to listen to, thanks. I started shooting on a nikon d50 a friend gave me with a kit lens a battery and a memory card (no manual) about 15 years ago. I was so confused as to what all the buttons did and constantly took bad photos. I genuinely thought at the time maybe there was something wrong with the camera as every image I took was blurry. The nikon d80 came out a few months later so I bought that and read the manual. I know this sounds like the most simple thing ever, but read your manual if you've never used a dslr before. I honesty can't put into words how much my photography improved from that one thing. the second thing that improved my photography the most changing to manual mode, not because manual mode is the best, but because it made me think about every setting and how they harmonise together. I had shot in AP mode for about 4 years because it was simple and I learned more in 1 month of using manual mode than in 4 years of AP mode.

Nice to see Mads appreciates quality sandals :)

The holy trinity (plus Rick) talking all things photography. "It doesn't get much better than this!" How did 40 minutes go so quickly? Really great to watch & listen. Covered a lot of what I feel while out shooting, and as usual so inspirational. Thanks guys

A podcast like this would be fantastic.

This is great 👌

a podcast sounds amazing, I would definitely listen to it

Thanks, chaps. I enjoyed listening to this discussion.

sorry, the video ended and skipped to the next where i put the comment about the book. It is here. Great video!

"It will cost you your hobby." Truer words were never spoken. I went the route many years ago of trying to earn some (not even most) of my income from my photography and it was soul-sucking. I don't know how you guys do it. I hated the deadlines, and the marketing, and the selling. I just wanted to take pictures. It is much harder than it looks to make a living from something you love.

I'm loving these series of videos. The comradery between you all really comes through. And yes, Nigel you need to go to Denmark and do a series with Mads there. It would be great to see.

That painting vs photography idea sounds interesting!

Really enjoying the chat between the 4 of you. So hope there are more to come.

Ventusky is the name of the app mentioned at about 8:35 for those wondering. Took me a bit to find it

Hope to see more of this!

This is a dynamic video and gave me lots to think about. I really liked it and hope you all do another one soon.

I really appreciate you all sharing your honest knowledge. Looking forward to a similar podcast or a next video on a specific subject of photography.

PERFECT TIMING !!! a huge thank you to all of you. really enjoy seeing all of you together

Thank you Nigel for another interesting and informative KZread video. I found what James said at the end of your discussion very interesting. He mentioned that it’s very important to build a story around our photos. He said we need to communicate what it is about our photos that people should care about. I’d love to see in a future KZread video with you or James elaborating in more detail on what is meant by that. I think that would be very interesting. Thanks again for sharing so much helpful information.

This is a great addition to your vlogs Nigel, and would like to see more midweek content like this, as it is a great point of reference to keep returning to.

If you do get to the west coast some places you would like would be Haida Gwaii an island on the coast of BC Canada, also Tofino on Vancouver Island. The Pacific Coast in Oregonn USA and Northern California, and the Giant Red Woods also in Northern California

What a brilliant idea! I l really enjoyed watching this different video, with the casual chit-chat, bouncing ideas around the four of you. What a refreshing, original way of discussing all things photography! Thanks guys!

Great to see my favourite photographers in one room having a chat and discussing real photography issues. The insight you all have as professionals is invaluable to us hobbyists and I certainly learn an awful lot from your videos and appreciate the efforts that go into your content. Would love to see more conversations in the future. All the best from NZ

This was a refreshing new way for you to deliver content and i loved it. It was nice to reflect back on how far my photography has come with some of your comments and also to realise that my photo journey is unique to me and I can do it however I like :-). Would love more videos in this chatting style

Excellent chat, guys. There were a few points that I found very reassuring that I may actually be on the right track!

Enjoyed that. Without a doubt there is a market for a good podcast like this. Make it happen!

Great show. I have for a while watched you all separate. To see you all working together, powerful.

Thanks for a most enjoyable, interesting & informative video!

Looking forward to you Vs Mads in Denmark! 🇩🇰👍😁😆😂🥳 Of course the others are I'm sure most welcome to join also... 😉

Really enjoyed the video guys. I wouldn't consider myself a novice but it was really great to be reminded of & recognise the elements you talk about. The key for me is , as mentioned, enjoying the craft and the pursuit not the end result but obviously getting a great shot does ease the pain of a wet morning. But the best tip, as you all said, is local knowledge & knowing where to go depending on the conditions & once you find compositions keep returning in all weathers, seasons, times of day & one day you just happen to be there to witness a magic moment & if you lucky get a photo too that's all you need to keep the joy & feed the passion. Cheers.

You guys are great

This was so enjoyable to watch and what a perfect setting to do it. The main thing I got out of this discussion was how your approaches to landscape photography and philosophies on photographing landscapes are very similar in many regards yet there are plenty of subtle yet important differences among you. The lesson? Learn from the masters but follow your own vision.

Hi Nigel, reading your News Letter, I saw your woodland ebook and bought it immediately. It‘s so awesome and a great guide in addition to your videos. Until now I had the amazing ebooks of Mads. I appreciate your collaboration with Mads, James and Rick. The videos are funny, instructive and always made my day. 👏🖖👍

Great video and very informative. Awesome advice from 4 great artist. Should have that format of Q/A video every few months.

You need a fire place and a couple of beers for this composition to be epic 😉

Brilliant Talk. Really enjoyed this. Deffo need more of these. Really interesting to listen about you process and ideas.

This is excellent. I loved watching this. I would watch more of this type of content as it is made available. Thanks guys.

I enjoy all (plural) of your videos, but I think this has been one of the ones I've got most out of. Definitely a thumbs up from me for the format.

That was an excellent discussion. Thanks to the 4 of you for doing this. I look forward to seeing more discussion.

i really like this video and think you gave a lot of solid information out of this!

Cheers from flat Texas… Denmark sounds great 😊😁👍🏻…. If I had to pay my bills with my photography it would change the whole journey for me…

these meetup-videos are very inspiring keep them up :)

Thanks for the great chatting... really likes it and as you can see I was not alone, you are way over 5K, so looking forward to podcasts that I can listen to while editing my pictures ;-)

I'd listen to this podcast!

Brilliant content. I picked up that no-one mentioned selling to stock photo libraries, magazines, tourist boards, tv...and James did include talking about stock in at least one vlog

Wonderful format for some great information. I love hearing from the different perspectives.

@NigelDanson

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Glad you enjoyed it!

Best video for ages - loved it

@NigelDanson

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Glad you enjoyed it

Hello guys. Really enjoyed the video and there are so many things I could add, but there is one thing that I think is of paramount importance. James mentioned it in a video not long ago and it's very true (for me)! I no longer go armed with a camera to take photos. I go to interesting place and take my camera with me i.e; my intent is to enjoy what I'm doing and seeing, and if I happen to come back with some quality images ...well, that's just a bonus. Lift the weight off your shoulders to have captured stunning shots, because it rarely happens.

Do the next one in a pub with some frothy beers and a roaring fire. Good stuff, thanks!

Great video, guys! I like the podcast idea. Thanks

My tip for a beginner that will hook them for the rest of their career, Fill the frame with what you love and leave out the rest. That will teach you the most important skill, Composition. Plus look at the photographers that you respect, don't copy but learn from their process. It will be your Swiss Army knife. You can get O.C.D about this, but this is about getting out and practice, practice, practice!

Thanks

Great video. It was both entertaining and informative. My tip would be to watch a lot of KZreads on photography in general. Over the years, I have watched many hundreds of videos on everything from gear reviews, to camera functions, to lighting, to composition and all types of photography. Following photographers like you, I have learned everything I know about photography and I am so thankful for it. You guys are such a valuable resource!! My other top tip would be, once you have that knowledge tucked away, the more often you get your butt out of bed before sunrise and go hunting for your subject of choice, the "luckier" you will be at getting great results. You know what I am talking about 🙂

Really useful and encouraging discussion...gathered a lot of crumbs from your table!!😁

That was a fantastic video fellows So enjoyable so valuable and so inspiring Thankyou for taking the time to make it Nigel I really hope you get 5000 likes because I’d love a podcast All the very best to you all 😊😊😊

I didn’t have time to watch this video, so I listened to it on headphones, while walking around doing my job, just like a Podcast. 👍👍. so looking forward to a series of podcasts, please guys 👍👍

@NigelDanson

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Cool - did that work ok?

@andyakehurst

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@@NigelDanson yes it did, I didn’t think I would learn anything without seeing pictures, but I think with the right Q&As, I think it would work well as a podcast. Q&As with different photographers with different genres, Pros and Hobbyists, would be good. Keep up the good work. 👍👍👍

Great video - certainly agree about shooting in all weather, but did have a chuckle as was it the next day that Nigel’s tripod blew over and the lens smashed, while Mad’s on the challenge video said his camera got drowned and stopped working!

Great video Nigel! As an artist who is trying to learn photography, I look forward to your collaboration with your artist friend!

I would love it if you came to Denmark too Nigel! I'm an English expat living in DK since 1997. Tell Mads to take you to Cold Hawaii on the West Coast of Jutland. It's not that boring even if it is fairly flat....!!! Really enjoyed this chit chat too! :)

Really enjoyed this, more of the same please lads .

This has been a great and useful discussion. I really hope you proceed with the podcast idea. Thanks for considering it. I really enjoyed the woodlands book as well.

Come to Denmark, Nigel! 😁👍🇩🇰

LEGENDS :)

👋👋👋👋Awesome video. I watched this video thinking these 4 individuals can fill a good size library with the knowledge and experience you each possess and I would visit it a lot to learn from you all. You're podcast bound my friend.

I think the two biggest themes here are just getting out and shooting (and worry less about gear) and then what you do when you get back (your post processing) which depending on the file format you choose (RAW or OOC JPEG) is equally important (extremely important if you shoot RAW as the image must be processed; obviously with JPEG it's optional whether you want to process it further or not). One way someone suggested to me when I was starting out was the shoot RAW+JPEG and if I wanted to use the JPEGs that was fine, but still try to learn how to recreate them from the RAW files using post processing and that helped me. Of course probably taking an in-depth course at some point about Lightroom, Photoshop and/or post processing is helpful too, as there are different workflows, but some workflow elements are common in many people's workflow that it just becomes "best practices".

This was a great couch session Nigel, Mads, Rick, James. Thank you. I prefer to watch a conversation. Maybe you could do a video with each of you on screen talking, rather than it being just audio like a podcast which I find boring due to my lack of attention span. :)

Great video - really enjoyed the format. Would be really good if you all did visit Mads in Denmark and do a video from there.

Time to go out everyday is a luxury, doing photography next to a 40 h work week can sometimes be challenging.

great advice guys, and remember take an apple, sit down breathe in the air and keep shooting.

I would like to share my money making story with you. I sent a picture to be framed at a specialist picture framing store and whilst it was leaning against the wall in the shop. A lady customer saw it and bought the whole product .(after the store manager gave me a ring and recommended a price!) My first picture sold when I wasn't even thinking about it! Result ! Which backs up the saying " if you like it? Someone else will too!" The photo was a sunrise over the River Severn in Shrewsbury!

Get out with camera often, to learn your camera inside out, find some software and learn it back to front, watch videos made by all of these guys in the video, my biggest cost is petrol for the car. Go out in all sorts of weather and times of day - there is no weather you shouldn't go out in, weather changes all the time. Going to epic locations does not guarantee great shots , shoot often in you local area for practice

Hello guys, thanks for this friendly video ! always good to spend some time with you, at least with Nigel and Mads…that I know well. But will visit also channels of Rick and james that I didn’t know. I’m turning 50, French, in the seed business….. and took my first photo with my brand new camera (Lumix G80) in March 21. Honorable mention in some awards in 21 and 22. This year my first exhibition in a restaurant !!. But well this is because all of you, the people of youtube that give advices that allowed me to learn and I continue to learn again for PS, Lr, Light, composition etc…… I’ll switch certainly for Fuji XT-4 this year……..money is also a reason as I know the profile of the Z series and A7… as well…. 😊 again because of some photographer videos….. so I would recommend beginner to just follow right people, like me for landscape photography !! Funny after only 1 year and a half doing that as a hobby how I look the world differently, how I would only take photo when light is going up or down…..or in street in the middle of the day in summer in Italy or as mentioned by rick, the tricks that I see in movies and art of the director of photography……well a full exciting new life. I don’t have the income to go to workshops as you do….but well, now I might go in Danemark this year and studied the possibilities to flight to feroe…. But as mentioned earlier by Mads so many places out of the well known magical places where magic is present as well. So well, THANKS a lot for all of what you guys are sharing, it is really valuable!!! Cheers.

My dream location Heard island , an australian island between africa and australia old whaling location now protected volcano on the main island last people that got to go there was about 6 years + ago . Bucket list stuff .

James is the boy 👌🏻 Great talk all round though.

@Mr.G.Williams

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You are the man Nigel 🤣

One the very first question I did expect James to answer don't waste money on getting a tripod... :-)

@iKeto_gal

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lol😄

@stevemozzie6497

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Totally agree. You can miss SO much if you're faffing around with a tripod.

That room looks cold

I'm so glad you guys exposed the unspoken underbelly of photography footwear. So brave to show it for 40 min! Kidding of course. Cheers for these collaboration sessions, I'm fascinated and hang on every word. I particularly liked the 'what are you doing to improve your photography' question, a question that will never have a final answer. Thanks boys.

Behind on your vids Nigel so apologies...been out shooting a lot! For me the 2 things that hit home hard are firstly what you said about shooting photos you like yourself and if others do as well then that's a nice bonus. The other was what James said about losing your hobby when turning it into your job. For me I use photography as a way to escape the pressures of work so whilst I'd love to make some money from it I'd hate to have the pressure to turn out Videos (and Instareels - James went way up in my admiration for that!😂😂) you guys must feel. I think there is an opening for another f4 group now the other one have broken up😉

Got to say Denmark is far from a boring country and i foud this out before i started doing photography! i want to go back now to shoot the place

I like finding parallels between photography and music (although I’m useless at both). A wonderful guitar player, Jerry Donahue, said in a video that he picked up a bit here and a bit there from different guitarists and merged them with his own preferences (like double string bends) to create his own style. Books like ‘Zen Guitar’ will talk about process rather than outcome. And not losing instinct during the editing process (that’s Rob Reed saying how he’d got into the habit of watching the computer screen rather than listening while editing - a bit like editing by histogram rather than concentrating on the image itself). OK. Who’s going to ‘pinch the idea’ of making a video with a musician!!??

Love all of your work, and watch all the time. Disappointed that Mads thought post processing was so incredibly important. Most amateur photographers don’t have this as an important step, mostly I try and take good photos. Really appreciate your advise but thinking about how to make a photo better, later, is never a consideration for me when taking the photo. But apparently it is supposed to be.