Great video. My one big takeaway is how wonderful it is to see a father and son working together and enjoying their time together. Continue the journey and relish the time together.

@inequil1026

5 жыл бұрын

I am with you. Thought the same. Kind of curious who the third person is that does the camera. The second son, the Mom, camera man for hire...?

@Muskar2

5 жыл бұрын

@@inequil1026 definitely a dude 22:01

@JBoy340a

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And I can see as a parent I can see the pride in a father when his son teaches him something new. Very nice dynamics between them!

@felixnuwahid9879

5 жыл бұрын

Precious relationship

@JDMHaze

5 жыл бұрын

thats his sonn!!!!???

You have a new Leaf that undoubtedly allows you to connect your phone via bluetooth. Why are you holding your phone? Grrr.

@Prodigious1One

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, force of habit.

@AutumnWind92

2 жыл бұрын

We call that "boomer moment"

@Silver_A11

2 жыл бұрын

It's to let other drivers they are having a very important call and everyone should know.

@boboyalonzo2209

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@thefifthdoctor6780

Жыл бұрын

What in the generation x have we here….

I really like how you put this video together. It is very well made and I enjoyed it pretty much. But: You two are really biased towards the Tesla as you keep constantly bashing the Leaf. If something goes well for the Tesla it's by design but with the Nissan it's always luck? I think Nissan doesn't get enough credit for the fact that they're the best traditional car manufacturer when it comes to electric vehicles. Especially this current version shows that a well made compact EV doesn't have to look weird or cost much to be very good.

@Driver8takeabreak

3 жыл бұрын

and Nissan has been making the Leaf for over 10 years. And they're actually somewhat affordable. The comment in the beginning about how the Leaf didn't normally regen is not accurate.

I've come to notice, on my leaf, that the e-pedal uses a lot of the friction brake to brake consistently. I opted to not using the e-pedal mode and just using the b mode instead of the d mode and play with the brake pedal for maximum re-gen. I use to see a bunch a brake dust with e-pedal mode. I rarely see it now.

@pigknickers2975

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was shocked to discover this. Don't use it at all. B mode ECO is my style of driving for years now.

That old thunderbird at the gas station though what a time hop. 11:50

@Intrepid175a

5 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking! :-)

@ShukenFlash

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Was just going to comment on that. Love those old Thunderbirds from the first few years

@louisbarningham

5 жыл бұрын

Wow she's a beauty

@Diveson

5 жыл бұрын

Oh wow. I went back to check. What a beaut!

Good review. Lane change is part of enhanced autopilot. If you only have autopilot it will steer, accelerate and brake, but you have to buy the enhanced or full self driving for the other features.

Great entertaining video -- enjoyed! But leads to a misleading conclusion. They assume that by charging each car to 236 miles of range and comparing their range at the end of the drive they will be able to determine which car is more efficient. When the range totals are nearly the same at the end of the trip they conclude that each car provides the same efficiency. However, this is a flawed way of comparing efficiencies because using range estimate to determine efficiency is circular. The computer in each car derives the range estimate of each car by estimating the efficiency of the car (based on a number of factors) and multiplying that by the energy left in the battery ( mi/kWh * kWh = mi). For that reason you cannot use the comparison of the estimated ranges of each vehicle as a way of comparing their efficiencies because the estimated range takes into account the assumed efficiency of each vehicle. All they are really doing in this video is comparing the difference of how each vehicle estimates range on a hilly drive. Which is useful to know as range estimate is based on the assumption of driving on flat ground. If you really want to compare the efficiencies of each car based on this drive you have to use the percent of battery left in each car as compared to each cars total battery size, and use that to determine how much energy each car used on the drive. Based on what they said in this video the model 3 used 37 kWh and the Leaf used 44 kWh. Making the model 3 more efficient, which is what is expected based on the EPA ratings of each car. For highway driving (which is what most of their drive was) the Leaf has an EPA MPGe rating of 94, while the Model 3 has a rating of 112. Meaning the model 3 is rated to be 16% more efficient at highway driving. On their drive the model 3 used 7 less kWh of energy than the Leaf, meaning it was 16% more efficient. So really what you can conclude based on their test is that the model 3 is 16% more efficient at highway driving, which is exactly what you would expect based on the EPA ratings of each vehicle.

@markwicklander6837

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, they should have measured how much energy it took to charge each car. However, that would have made Tesla look good which isn't what they want to do

@michaelakamatsu

5 жыл бұрын

It looked as though the Leaf was carrying about 100 pounds more driver.

@projectixj9868

4 жыл бұрын

Boom. Way to bust that myth wide-open, Tom. These bozos just got served.

@ITILII

4 жыл бұрын

Logical...flawlessly logical - Spock

@dutchdna

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelakamatsu Lol. That hurt

Fun fact that aluminium power unit in the Nissan Leaf and several other components are made in Australia. Somewhere hidden on it is a tiny Kangaroo, a little nod to where it is made.

I really like these real world, fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants reviews.

@blancomusic

5 жыл бұрын

Josh Lambert I agree ☝️ !!!

@Chilukar

5 жыл бұрын

Would be great to see the comparison between the Model 3 and the Kona 64Kw. By all accounts they are pretty close efficiency wise.

@WeBackTesla

5 жыл бұрын

We have a standard range plus that we plan to do some real world range tests. We have one round trip with no charging stations along the way. What other data would be good to present during these tests?

You guys should do a long EV road trip like the ones you’ve done with SUVs from CA to CO!

I'm personally of the opinion that MPGe is a stupid metric. I think mi/kWh, kWh/100mi and Wh/mi are much more meaningful metrics for EVs

@natehill8069

4 жыл бұрын

MPGe blows. Only the govt could labor mightily and come up with such a loser. Its like if they came out with a new coin today that was 1/5 of a penny. Id rather have the screen in my Volt be blank than have MPGe. And Id LOVE to have that Tesla consumption graph. But not enough to put up with EVERY function being ONLY via the display. When GM calculates gas MPG (if I happen to use gas) it includes the miles on electricity in the calculation for mpG, so it gives some bizarre number, like 220 MPG, thats pretty much as useless as MPGe. As if electricity didnt cost anything and didnt have to be injected into the car somehow (time cost). And this last week they installed an update that REMOVED my daily e/g breakdown graph. Thanks GM, did Ford give you the idea to help me like that?

@PP-qj1ez

4 жыл бұрын

MPGe exists for a simple reason that the hybrids came before pure EVs! How do you wanna rate efficiency of hybrid car? Gasoline engine 30 MPG and the electric motor 30 kWh/100mi?

@PP-qj1ez

4 жыл бұрын

Dad - Hey Tommy, do you wanna drag race? Tommy - Ummmm, ok Dad. (In Mind: I hope he remembers which car he's in)

@Shaker626

4 жыл бұрын

How about something more useful? Like maybe km/kWh.

@Scoopta

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shaker626 nah, km is useless, might as well measure distance in potatoes at that point =P.

Americans have awful lane discipline... When you are not overtaking move back to the cruising lane! This is why traffic is formed.

@eric170B

5 жыл бұрын

Read same the message and all replies below :)

@ManCatCheese

5 жыл бұрын

Well for me in Australia you can't go over the speed limit to overtake someone. At the same time you can only be in the right hand lane (Australia remember) if you're overtaking

@xensored03

5 жыл бұрын

at lease not Chinese driving......

@Ishaq_Vally

5 жыл бұрын

@@ManCatCheese It doesn't matter if you can't go over the speed limit or not. If you're not overtaking, get out of the fast lane.

@ManCatCheese

5 жыл бұрын

@@Ishaq_Vally yes... That's what i said did you even read the comment?

You have AP, not EAP or FSD, it’s only auto steering within its lane it won’t change lanes for you

@geo5106

5 жыл бұрын

This comment is correct as I have AP. Just to further clarify for you TFL, EAP (Enhanced Auto Pilot) was not an option for you during time of purchase. To get the full features such as lane changes, navigate to destination, and parking assist you'll need the FSD (Full Self Driving)

@ColeBender

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he has EAP not just regular AP because they hadn't changed everything when they bought the car.

@sjumper1522

5 жыл бұрын

I have found that pressing the turn signal stalk to the first position will not Auto lane change. Pressing the turn signal stalk with more pressure so that it gets to the second position causes the Auto lane change.

@louicoleman2910

5 жыл бұрын

Cole Bender he said he bought Autopilot at $3000, which is the basic AP

@ColeBender

5 жыл бұрын

@@louicoleman2910 gotcha. Yeah so he doesn't have lane changing or NOA.

I love that this channel is open to changes, and not just dismissive of EVs. I honestly don't understand why more people aren't excited about what EVs can do. Giving up loud engine sounds for insane acceleration seems like trading fake exhilleration for real exhilleration, and comparing performance EVs to performance cars, they are way cheaper. While EVs might be more expensive up front, the truth is that even right now today, the cost to own over a 79 month period for a moderately priced EV is still much cheaper than an affordable ICE vehicle. The average US price for a new car is $36,000 and 24 MPG average. The equivalent budget for price parity on an EV including cost of ownership over a 79 month period is $46,000 without any tax incentives!

@topsecretmx5142

5 жыл бұрын

Erik Garcia you said it yourself you’re giving up engine sound which myself included people love. The EV’s also don’t have the convenience of filling the tank in a couple of minutes but they’re getting there. Also EV’s don’t look great yet. I’m sure they will in the future but Tesla’s etc are not great looking cars.

@Kferler

5 жыл бұрын

@@topsecretmx5142 exactly, I get they are electric but do all EVs need a futuristic look??

@WeBackTesla

5 жыл бұрын

Kferler Tesla’s designs are functional, not just futuristic. Not sure about the other companies design decisions though. The looks of the model 3 didn’t intrigue us at first but it definitely has grown on us.

@Kferler

5 жыл бұрын

@@WeBackTesla I am talking about the outside of the car, they cant change that??

@dalegardner5493

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kferler Not while maintaining a 0.23 coefficient of drag.

I’ve been looking for a very detailed channel on vehicles! You take your time and don’t talk a mile a minute, very down to earth! Love it! Tesla is beautiful!!

@thefifthdoctor6780

Жыл бұрын

Tesla is ugly

I couldn't care less about the"miles remaining" on your return to the shop. I want to know "kWh consumed" for each car during the trip.

@Zerinsakech

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the kWh consumed infor would be great, but we can just look up the MPGe for either vehicle and see which one's more efficient on paper. The fascinating thing to me is that both have very similar MPGe in the real world, even though the Tesla model 3's "should" be higher.

@keithmcdonnell4485

5 жыл бұрын

@@Zerinsakech I think the Tesla most likely DID get significantly better energy consumption, but that was not shown in the data they provided. Anyone who drives an EV knows that the guess-o-meter (range estimator) is virtually useless under changing conditions. Tesla with route plan range estimate is accurate, but every other manufacturers range estimate is based on energy consumption recent history.

@onedankind8168

4 жыл бұрын

@@keithmcdonnell4485 Well even the tesla one was way off with that. Because it predicted he would be 2% less battery when reaching destination. He was lower than that.

I love how the pro pilot is 10 seconds, so about the same as having a car with a good alignment. I have enjoyed this channel and your reviews for quite some time now. Thus is a total REAL WORLD channel. I love how all of the TFL crew are honest. They all let the facts speak for themselves, and all try to be as unbiased as possible, but will respectfully state if they have a different opinion. Keep up the excellent work!

@JimmysTractor

5 жыл бұрын

If there are no lines painted, propilot cuts off. Also cuts off when a turn lane opens up and the line goes out. I got my 18 leaf last month 5/19 with pro pilot for 25,300 and will be 17,800(36,855 sticker) after tax credit.

Have an electrician install a NEMA 14-50 outlet 240v with a 50 amp circuit breaker. This install should only run about $200+. Do not mention anything Tesla or they will quote you much higher. This should allow you to charge at 90% in only 4+ hours or around 35mi per hour compared to the 2-3mi per hour you guys are getting now.

@IronmanV5

5 жыл бұрын

Plus they can use it for other purposes later like for a welder, etc.

@doug3964

5 жыл бұрын

Or, have that electrician run a 3 phase, 240v, 100 amp line and hook up the Tesla Wall charger to it. That could charge the car, from dead empty, in less than 2 hours....prob closer to 1.

@jaeeboom

5 жыл бұрын

@@doug3964 Overkill for most people and can get very costly. That's only practical on a household that have multiple Teslas and daisy chained Wall Chargers.

@Uvatron

5 жыл бұрын

On board charger maxes out at 48 amps 11.5kw on the long range model with wall charger. A 60amp breaker is all that is needed.

@tonyc6996

5 жыл бұрын

@@doug3964 sorry Doug but this is incorrect. 48A is there most the Model 3 can charge at if not at a supercharger

15:00 "we're doing the speed limit... " GET OUT OF THE GORRAM PASSING LANE!!!

@LizHellsing

5 жыл бұрын

That is exactly what I was thinking haha

@mememe5231

5 жыл бұрын

As someone has to pass them on the right! Can’t stand inconsiderate people on the road!

@daver787

5 жыл бұрын

Relax, Jayne.

@a2cryss

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, they were speeding a lot. The shot of the Tesla screen show Speed limit and actual speed and they were always over. 20:40 doing 46 in a 35 zone. But also, you should not have people passing on the right.

@qanononabong8491

5 жыл бұрын

Typical Coloradan drivers. They are probably originally from Kalifornia and have further infected Boulder.

Did almost this same trip this weekend in my hybrid. It was nuts watching the mpg drop from 40.1 to 34.1 on the way up and then return to 40.2 when we got back home. Very cool comparison video. Keep edutaining us!

On this trip my phone battery went from 41% to 0%

@Haien82

5 жыл бұрын

No regeneration on the rewind? 🤔

@realneontv

5 жыл бұрын

daviesakiller mine went from 12 to 2 on battery saver

@realneontv

5 жыл бұрын

Now 1.... gotta find a charger!

@hollymolly518

5 жыл бұрын

40% battery for half an hour video lol wdf

@alphaomega9650

5 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure how you lost 41% battery, my iPad mini 4 lost maybe 4%

The hump in the leaf contains the battery isolation contact which is why the hump has a plastic panel on it which you lifted up and then pull the contact out. so when work on the high voltage system or carry out panel repair that may require welding etc or in a emergency you can easily disconnect the battery

@Sir......

5 жыл бұрын

too bad they couldn't have located that under the center console or somewhere out of the way....

@MsSomeonenew

5 жыл бұрын

And they just had to put it exactly where it will be in the way for all eternity.

@matthunkovic3036

4 жыл бұрын

It is located there for EMS and ease of access.

Fantastic video, this is an important comparison test to have made and I'm glad you guys took several steps to make the comparison as even as possible based on several factors. Impressive that the two came out as being effectively tied!

This is one of your best videos. I like you doing fun things like this! Very entertaining, and informative. I love learning about electric cars. Thank you.

Thanks for the video guys. I have mixed feedback on this. The bottom line is yes, if one is looking at a full battery electric vehicle, then go with the biggest battery your budget will allow, even though the majority of the typical daily driving is well covered by any BEV with a 35kWh pack size or higher. Yes for longer trips, a bigger battery pack is gold. However, with that goes increased cost. And in your comparison, for the money spent on each vehicle, I would say the Leaf did pretty good against the Model 3. Yes they are both from the ground up BEVs with of course many differences. Those differences are reflected in the pricing. The Tesla costs more and you should get better performance out of it given what it is. For battery management, Tesla is king right now with what I think is the best BMS on the planet by far. No one in that sense can touch them. That being said, the Leaf and Model 3 tend to go after different markets. Nissan is not trying to compete with BMW, Mercedes, Audi and the like where Tesla is (it's a premium brand according to Elon!). Therefore the metrics for these markets are different and as such that is reflected in the design and offerings. Hence why the Leaf does not have a Frunk and looks more like a traditional ICE vehicle. That is on purpose from Nissan as they want to compete with the Toyota Corollas, Honda Civics, and the like - to get into more mainstream markets with a value-priced all-around good BEV. The Leaf does not have to be top in any category, but just be a decent all-around everyday car. Tesla is built on performance, style, design, technology and that is the type of owners they are targeting. And in your remarks about ProPilot and AutoPilot, remember that Nissan's system is based just on a single camera and single radar. Tesla as multiple cameras, radar and sensors so it should perform much much better. However, ProPilot is really really good for what it is and I don't get the "ponging" at all my 2018 Leaf SL 40kWH, and I've been driving it for almost a year now! I did a highway video of PP last fall and it performed admirably. So even though they in some cases may be similarly priced (Model 3 SR+ RWD with no other options vs. Leaf SV Plus or SL Plus), they still IMO go after different markets. And those markets are not to compete with one another, but to compete and displace ICEVs - as the end result it to put more Zero Emission Vehicles on the road and less tailpipes! While I appreciate the video and "testing", its safe to say that both vehicles performed very well with the more expensive ($10k+ more), more powerful, more heavy and with more battery - the Model 3 ending up with basically the same final range left as the Leaf. To me, I would say the Leaf came out on top as it has the smaller battery and passive thermal management! The take away here is that BEVs can perform very well in all situations and it is important for longer journeys to understand range and driving characteristics to a point, as well as charging infrastructures, etc. However, for the majority of use cases, people can just get in them and drive them. Come back to a home charger, plug in and the next day repeat without any worry. You can't refuel your ICEV at home! BEVs are becoming more mainstream for the simple fact that they in most circumstances can replace an ICEV and provide a better driving, maintenance and ownership experience. More manufacturers are cranking out and will provide even more choice year after year as this industry is rocketing up in scale. Tesla is not the only player anymore (remember Nissan came out with the Leaf before the Model S and the Leaf was targeted at a more mainstream market since day 1 - just technology pricing at that time made them very cost-prohibitive versus ICEV). We are still not at cost parity today, but hopefully should achieve that within my prediction of 5-7 years, but I really really hope it is sooner.

@DonLandis

5 жыл бұрын

Nice reply but you missed one point that bothered me in the "real world" test. The Leaf was handicapped in it's range test as they intentionally did not activate the ECO mode. If we are testing the range performance then both cars should have used it's best technology to create best range. If the test was performance in a drag race, then both cars should be run in the high performance mode. The jack-rabbit start in the video was no surprise Tesla with the more powerful drive train won but I don't drive that way so don't need a drag racing car. Therefore we really don't know what the Leaf would have ended up with in range remaining. I decided to buy the standard 2019 Leaf SL as my second car which is primarily used for short about town errands. I didn't need the range greater than 150 miles as my longest one way trip is only 60 miles and I have a free DC charging station at the destination if I need to recharge. Nissan Leaf has FREE DC charging. For touring, I have a Honda Accord Hybrid Touring car that can get 700 miles on a tank of gas. It's been cross country twice and a great touring car. The cost of the Leaf SL was considerably less than the Model 3 and after I decided I just don't need that range, the money saved was considerable. One day I may replace the Honda Hybrid with a Tesla if they are still in business, but I will see what all EV's offer then in a couple years. I really want much faster charging with traveling for long multi day trips. Tesla is making progress in that direction that I don't see from other car companies. If I only had one car, the Tesla long range model would be it. The proper tool for the job.

@EVRevolution

5 жыл бұрын

DonLandis Hi yes good point as well re eco mode. I too drive all the time in eco.

@stellarrat

4 жыл бұрын

While they may be similar right now, my guess is that the Leaf battery will show serious range loss after a couple years. The battery life in my Leaf was awful and I don't live in a hot part of the country (OR.) I didn't do much fast charging either. In six years I lost very close to 30% of my range. On the other hand, there are bunches of original 2012 Model S's out there with 90% range still.

Quit hogging the left lane!!!!

@fnsonicrick

5 жыл бұрын

Omg thankyou. I cringed watching cars have to go around them.

@jakeswegle690

5 жыл бұрын

@@fnsonicrick Same.. At least they got over eventually

@deronny2212

5 жыл бұрын

Isn't that common in the States? Keep your lane principle?

@nougatbitz

5 жыл бұрын

Don't Americans overtake on the right regularity to the point where you can get the impression it's legal?

@jordangibsonrl

5 жыл бұрын

@@nougatbitz Yes, because nobody moves over. You simply cannot get past slow moving traffic reliably in the passing lane.

Has hands free calling in the car, doesn't use it. Uses speaker phone but still feels the need to hold the phone to his face. Good job the son is more sensible.

@catchlite5196

4 жыл бұрын

evilution yeah, find it kinda stupid too. It is illegal here and you will get a big fine for it.

@moabman6803

4 жыл бұрын

Ya holding a phone almost distracts a driver as much as staring at a big flat screen figuring out what selection to make.

Great video, nothing beats real world chair gripping tests. A similar test with the Kona EV v model 3 would be awesome!

Also FYI, you can just press the button on the charge cable to open the tesla's charge port, same button you use to unlock it when you unplug.

Have you checked if it is turned on? Auto-Lange Change (ALC) must be enabled in Controls -> Settings -> Driver Assistance

@nbrown73

5 жыл бұрын

Lane change is no longer available without FSD (Full Self Driving) being purchased in addition to AP (Autopilot). A few months ago Tesla stopped offering EAP (Enhanced Autopilot), which DOES offer lane change and summon capabilities. Your Model 3 has temp tags so is new and likely has only AP and not EAP. To better differentiate things, those with EAP kept their features because EAP was a higher price than AP is offered for now. As a result, they moved the key features like auto lane change, NoAP (Nav on Autopilot) and summon (moving the car with no one in it using the phone app) into the FSD set of features.

@chowner

5 жыл бұрын

They did not get Full Self-Driving Capability

@nbrown73

5 жыл бұрын

@@chowner not from the video. He mentions AP only and has a destination plotted, but only the sides of the lanes are blue and no option for Nav on AP shows. Nav on AP is a FSD or EAP feature, not having that show in the UI means this only has AP enabled un software. When using Nav on AP, the lanes side blue lines merge into a single line under the car in the center of the lane, which is what is required for turn signal lane changes.

@chowner

5 жыл бұрын

@@nbrown73 sorry I fogot the word not. Yes they only paid for AP not full self driving and that's why the turn signal lane changes are unavailable

My take away was that for a huge price difference, i could get the same range.

@carllos25

2 жыл бұрын

better tech, better range 10k more lol. I'll keep my leaf, because I can't afford the Tesla. Gotta be honest.

This was perfect for me. I live in Littleton and have been thinking about getting one of these. Biggest worry was driving up to A-Basin which is right down the other side of Loveland pass.

We have a BMW i3 in the family and as a tech guy, let me give you a couple of tips... #1: To best measure efficiency, forget the often inaccurate range meters. Instead, reset your trip computer before the start and just compare the Wh/mile figure. #2: To get Autopilot to change lanes: Settings -> Controls -> Autopilot -> Automatic Lane Change -> ON (it might have been moved in the recent software update, but the setting definitely exists) #3: As much as some people keep saying that all electric cars are the same, I recommend watching this video (a teardown of BMW i3 vs Chevy Bolt vs Tesla Model 3 - shows how far ahead Tesla is with electronics design): kzread.info/dash/bejne/opupmM-ke73dfso.html Thanks for these videos though. Very interesting. Keep it up!

@DarcersTech

5 жыл бұрын

@UC9KsskFsyJQiSXi016bot4w That's really inconvenient then. Especially because you have to turn off AP every time you want to overtake. I read somewhere that Auto Lane change (initiated by the driver) is included even in the basic Autopilot though. (Also, their Model 3 is a 2018 which should have the old EAP.)

Awesome video guys. The haters are going to give you crap about comparing the two and how it's not the same thing and blah blah blah. Truth is, this is EXACTLY what people want to see. You guys covered all the bases and showed a perfect amount of info. My parents mountain house is 88mi from my house, and takes 2 charging stops in my gen 1 Leaf to get there. If I leave the mountain house with 100%, I don't have to stop at all coming back. My Leaf has about 80mi of range.

Wow this is an AWESOME comparison. Thanks for this.

Awesome job! We need way more real world test videos like this to show all the kinds of trips to visit family and friends and what to expect.

I love the energy graphs in the Tesla. They make trips anxiety-free. My leaf was nerve-wracking going over mountains.

@Driver8takeabreak

3 жыл бұрын

Leaf Spy?

Nissan is the only dealer that will take the 5000 off the top of the price of the car for the CO credit and you just sign it over to them that is a HUGE boon for them

Holding the phone while driving. 😂😂. Don’t do that downunder

@thespiceislife2082

4 жыл бұрын

Or in California. Don’t the cars have hands free via Bluetooth?

Shouldn't you have charged the cars to the same amount of kWh. Charging them to the same amount of projected miles - I mean : what does that even show. Anyway loved the video - lots of fun

@Xyphren

5 жыл бұрын

na. Charging losses can be up to 10% so you don't really know how much your getting actually to the battery and it also depends on State of charge. Battery voltage would have been the best for Range matching.

@user-vg9rg2yw5w

5 жыл бұрын

How can then the say that tesla has better battery technology

@Gert_Adam

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-vg9rg2yw5w Tesla has better battery technology and a better electric motor. This is a fact proved many times, but you are right, this video proved nothing.

@MacXpert74

5 жыл бұрын

I guess it gives a insight to how close both cars are to their stated range indication. Not to much of a difference there in the end, although the Tesla is more accurate throughout.

@eurovisie2010

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, did I miss it,.. or.. How many kwh's was used.. Not how many miles.. How many kwh's.. The cars were set to the same milage.. But not how much kwh's.. I'm not into this stuff..

Drooling over that Model 3 right now!

@cocochanel9291

5 жыл бұрын

It is the best car I have ever owned.

@vincentrobinette1507

5 жыл бұрын

@@cocochanel9291 For the difference in sticker price, the Tesla is definitely a lot more car for the money. Well worth the difference in price.

It was interesting to see that Tesla takes elevation into consideration when calculating future battery consumption.

@FutureSystem738

5 жыл бұрын

Frank Ng Tesla has the smarts! No surprises really, Tesla for the win 👍

@akk8480

5 жыл бұрын

Height, speed limits and tempersture. And adjust the estimation on the fly if the estimation is consistently off. Rarely off by more than 1 %

@martintran602

5 жыл бұрын

And it takes into account your driving habit, too. On my long road trip, it knows that I like to do 75+ mph so it calculates range based on that, not on some ideal value. Then it tells me that if I want to reach destination I'd have to drive under 70mph or 60mph at times.

@davidradzieta6458

2 жыл бұрын

The Leaf did that too thats why the range dropped so much going uphill and when he came back down he got the a leaf miles back because he was going downhill. Interesting to know the 56kwh Leaf and Tesla have the same range x235 miles.

At the end when they're charging the cars: On the Tesla you can open the charge port by pressing the top of the charge connector. You don't need to push on the charge door to open it. You can also open it from the control panel inside the car. Also, apparently they are charging on 120v plugs. On 240v plugs neither vehicle should take more than 6-8 hours to charge.

@morriec9868

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Given the anti-EV propaganda, this isn't helpful to reinforce this impression in others without at least mentioning that there are 2 faster ways to charge either.

This was a great review,..I am impressed,...with both cars. Well done you two!

Wow, you guys need to install 60 amp breaker's. That recharge time is pretty long. Great review keep up the good work love the electric car videos

@TeslaRoger

5 жыл бұрын

Model 3 supports 80amp speeds to get 46miles/hr of charging speed. Takes ~5 hours to get to 90%

@alessandro-on9zz

5 жыл бұрын

until the plug literally melts. I live in Europe and the same charger is using 240 volts. therefore faster but I did install a 7.3 kw wallbox. it is way faster @@larryspiller15

@doug3964

5 жыл бұрын

Nah...3 phase, 240v, 100 amp line and hook up the Tesla Wall charger(s) to it. You can daisy chain the wall chargers for multiple cars, and they talk to each other to maximize charging. Only thing faster is a Super Charger.

@tesladude2822

5 жыл бұрын

@@larryspiller15 I barely drive my Tesla (not every day), but still installed NEMA 14-50 outlet. It is not just faster charging, but a lot more effective.

@ronaldmail00

5 жыл бұрын

roman could probably get a business incentives on a charger.

Tip: Also don’t need to push the cover on the charging port, the charging dongle has a button, press that and the port will open.

See that’s why I love you guys. I haven’t even finished watching the entire video, but I already like the premise.

I have new 40kWh Leaf (150miles) and when I drive from Denver to Loveland Pass I have 25-30% on top and then I can go back to Denver

@jeffssmith1

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this information. It is very useful (I also live in the Denver area).

I think the Nissan did great. For $37K (minus $7,500 tax credit) you get 200+AER in a five door roomy vehicle. There are charge points throughout the route so, no range anxiety. Great to see options - the more options the better

@keydivermr3558

5 жыл бұрын

Without Thermal Management, I'm NEVER going back to a Leaf. 2 batteries in 4 years of Florida heat. It might work in Colorado, but until Nissan can make a battery pack that lasts 300,000 to 500,000 miles like Teslas they aren't even close. Tesla promises that next year's battery tech will be 1,000,000 miles. Fortunately, after the second battery was down 10% in

@AustinMichael

5 жыл бұрын

​@Leopold misleading statement and honestly wrong in regards to the model 3. For many of the old cars you would be correct but only in regards to the actual cell which used the 18650 form factor. As for the model 3 it uses a Tesla designed 20700 battery which is their intellectual property, Panasonic produces said battery but they did not create it.

@riggald9864

4 жыл бұрын

@Leopold They do own proprietry chemistry, which they get Panasonic to manufacture into cells.

@stellarrat

4 жыл бұрын

@@riggald9864 - How the battery pack is balanced and managed makes a big difference as well. Tesla's battery "success" is not just the type of individual cells that are in the pack. That is definitely Tesla's doing.

@alexmanojlovic768

4 жыл бұрын

@@AustinMichael and Leopold, Tesla cells manufactured by Panasonic are 2170, not 20700/21700 to distinctify them from everyone else's 21700... And the specific chemistry is Tesla's. IIRC a direct result of their research partnership with Jeff Dahn and team at Dalhousie University. Panasonic's (Sanyo's) own cells that they sell to other customers are 21700, not Tesla 2170....

Oh the early days of charging via a 110v outlet... A dryer outlet in the garage will be your best friend.

@anthonyc1883

5 жыл бұрын

Aussie2u I use a 110v outlet in my garage with no problem....but my car is a Prius Prime with only a 25-mile battery pack!! lol

@kenbob1071

5 жыл бұрын

I'll try the 110v. I work from home so it will be parked in one spot for 20+ hours.

@aussie2uGA

5 жыл бұрын

Ken Bob From what I remember, the Model 3 can add 4mph on a standard 110v 15amp circuit. It worked as long as you didn’t need to go anywhere else too soon ;). It drastically improves though when you install that Level 2 240v wall charger.

@tonyc6996

5 жыл бұрын

@@aussie2uGA I get 5mph charge on 110v 15A. Car sees 12A when charging which is proper -20%. Even with winter driving I have been able to get by with 110v for the last 4 months. 220v is much better, but not easy for me to do in my garage

I like in the Leaf it shows on the right side of the screen how if you were to turn off climate control you can gain a mile or two range. I’ve always been curious about how much the air conditioner would affect mileage. Especially down here in Texas. I’d love to see y’all do a summer video focused on the air conditioners affecting mileage.

Best part of the video “Hey wanna do a drag race?” “NO!” 😆

Get a 50 amp nema 14-50 dryer outlet installed in your garage so you can charge faster. That 24 hour charge time you got is brutal.

@tonyc6996

5 жыл бұрын

@@capn2289 been changing my model 3 for the last 4 months on 110v without about issue whatsoever. I plug it in when I get home and by the time I leave the next day I've recouped enough more than enough

@tonyc6996

5 жыл бұрын

@@capn2289 you plug it in every time you get home and never think about it? You're putting way more "thought"into it than there is

@tonyc6996

5 жыл бұрын

@Sagan Unit how much efficiency am I saving if it costs me $3500 to get 220v into my garage

@tonyc6996

5 жыл бұрын

@Sagan Unit thanks for your reply. My service and panel are fine 160A service. My problem is I have a driveway between my house and garage. To do a clean setup I'd have to bust out the concrete, run my power to a subpanel and the re pour a section of the driveway. For most it is not this much. But at 10% I'll stay using 110v. I'm considering putting a 220V outlet on the back of the house and running the cord under the garage door, but this will bother me to no end. I have to challenge your comments. I live in NY and we saw 20F temperatures most of the winner and my model 3 charged on 110v at 5mph range consistently all winter long. I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but I own one and have no issues with 110v charging at a reduced rate at cold temperatures. I simply plug my car in when I get home after driving it when its warm. Rarely do I drive enough in the winter for it to ever reach fully warmed temperature though so even when the battery is cold it charges. The Model 3 doesn't have a battery heater for the new 2170 cells

@tonyc6996

5 жыл бұрын

@Sagan Unit -4 - 22F are arctic temperatures and far from common. Battery life is significantly reduced at the temperatures I live in. At your temperatures the car would be useless. The little bit the battery warms up is quickly reduced when you park the car to go in a store or work etc...if it were that cold I'd not consider one

The only time I bring a wall charger with me is never in my e-Golf... You don't need it. You stop at a public charger that charges 4-20X faster. 😉

I love this series so far. Good job, guys

Excellent review - The two guys are very, very good. Many thanks......all the way from London !

Gents...one of the best real-world reviews I've seen in a long time...nicely done!

Fantastic video fellas. Pretty sure I have watched every single one of your uploads for the last 6 years

@TFLcar

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Very much appreciated!

What amazes me about the Leaf is that a lot of people still buy it instead of getting a Model 3. Amazing.

@douglasalanthompson

4 жыл бұрын

Its a heck of a lot cheaper for essentially the same utility value. At least until their Federal credits run out.

@sking2173

4 жыл бұрын

@@douglasalanthompson -- good point, but I'll still take the Tesla ...

@douglasalanthompson

4 жыл бұрын

Bolt Can be had for upper 20’s as well and with better range, just not nearly as cool.

One of the most informative videos ever considering range anxiety is a factor for someone that has never experienced an electric vehicle

You have to have enhanced auto pilot on your Tesla in order for you to have auto lane change

@benjam47

5 жыл бұрын

It used to be called Enhanced Auto Pilot. They have since eliminated the term EAP. Now, standard Autopilot is included, and Full Self Driving is an upgrade, which is necessary to get Auto Lane Change (as well as Navigate on Autopilot, Summon, and Auto Park)

Tesla changed all of the prices on model 3 now and Autopilot is included in the price now. In case you all hadn't heard yet. They basically added most of the AP price to the base price of the car.

@Countcho

5 жыл бұрын

But theyre not even making base model 3’s yet

@waynerussell6401

5 жыл бұрын

@@Countcho Yes they are and being shipped. $35000 model through a phone call or via showrooms. electrek.co/2019/03/06/tesla-standard-model-3-production/

As a Leaf driver, I can tell you that the Leaf's guessometer is very very conservative. I can't tell you how often I set a route and the Leaf starts screaming "you may not reach destination" but I make it with 20 miles to spare. The Leaf is also actually a slightly bigger car in the cabin than the Model 3 and it stands much taller, offering better visibility. The Tesla wins on all other regards, but you pay a price for it. If you commute 130 miles/ 200km a day everyday, the Tesla is the better choice, but perhaps an even better choice would be to move or find a job closer to home, because no amount of savings on gas can make up your lost time. If you only commute 65 miles/100km a day, and do the occasional road trip, the 40Kwh Leaf is the way to go. If you are a salesman driving all over the place, an electric car is not for you. IMO in terms of utility vs. price, the Leaf is a utility vehicle while the Tesla is a toy. Might as well fork out some extra and buy yourself a Porsche or even a Ferrari. Tesla is creating a speculative demand by forcing drivers to forfeit both their time and money, adapting their life to the vehicle rather than adapting the vehicle to their lives. As for Autopilot, it's a death trap, it promotes driver complacency. Soon, accident rates will rise and regulation is going to become tough.

Americans don't keep right except to pass? So much driving in the left lane for no apparent reason.

@classicjag76

5 жыл бұрын

No, they don't. They're way too arrogant, selfish, and consumed with everything else to have any regard for anything else around them.

@classicjag76

5 жыл бұрын

@UCwrUneb7F6jFxfUPTy_AZpQ how did I read his question wrong? He asked why Americans drive in the left lane when the right lane is open. I gave him the answer. Apparently you're one of the people who sit in the left lane blocking faster traffic, who then have to go to the right lane to go around you which is dangerous for everyone. I'll check for you reply when I wake up from my nap.

@benjam47

5 жыл бұрын

On some highways in some states, the left lane is a passing lane by law, there are signs and it's enforced. But that's the exception and not the rule.

@Jaymac720

5 жыл бұрын

The thing is, in most areas with highways, there’s a lot of traffic so you need to use every lane. People then apply that thinking to every form of highway driving. On i10 in New Orleans, no lane is ever clear. If people kept out of the left lane, traffic would back up really quick and then you’d need to use the left lane either way

@stellarrat

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I don't think the police in the US enforce the left lane rules much. It is in the driver's manual in most or all states here. I will say that our traffic jams would probably be worse if no one used the left in some supercrowded cities though. You'd effectively lose 25-50% of your road capacity.

Should always rely on % and never on mileage left

@akk8480

5 жыл бұрын

On a Tesla you can.. Miles left is calculated directly from kWh left.

@mYsTiCfAc3

5 жыл бұрын

@@akk8480 what if you drive conservative(or on the flat) for the first half of the battery then drive like a jerk(or uphill) for the second without a gps route. I don't own a tesla but im sure the number will be wrong just like the leaf

@maxant4285

5 жыл бұрын

It's not any different from gasoline cars.

@akk8480

5 жыл бұрын

@@mYsTiCfAc3 The "miles" left shown is just a way of displaying how much energy (kWh) there is left in the battery. The car has an estimate in kWh, lets say 74 kWh. By dividing this by 0.252 kWh you get 294. Which is the milage you will get if you drive with a consumption of 252Wh/mile.

@benjam47

5 жыл бұрын

The other responses are correct, on the Tesla, whether you choose to show remaining range as a percentage or as miles, you are looking at the same information. The remaining miles is a simple math calculation based on the percentage. Now, whether you will actually get those number of miles is based on your driving habits, but that is somewhat mitigated by regenerative braking. Unless you are driving like a fool, the mileage number will be close to reality.

informative and well presented by intelligent, pleasant 'every-day' guys :) - wish I could afford a Tesla...the Leaf has jumped forward from previous model

I have several dreams of owning a tesla for the last 4 years but still cant afford it :(

@khoavinh

5 жыл бұрын

don't worry man, someday you will

@cobaltBlu72

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry indeed. Very soon people won't be able to afford fossil cars anymore.

@firmbeliever3847

4 жыл бұрын

just wait till they fix all the bugs. its really expensive to repair once the warranty runs out. dont worry im in the same boat :(

@robertbennett2796

4 жыл бұрын

The model 3 the base model about 35,000 depending on tax credit and other factors and performance and or extended range goes up to 44,000 plus taxes and any other incentives added and other options if u choose

I love this video series. Thanks for doing it! It was an interesting comparison but it isn't much different than the same comparison between a 1 ton dually and a Prius. The number of miles remaining or % fuel remaining at the end of a trip is not an indicator of efficiency. I think the best way would be to measure the kilowatt hours being used when you recharge both cars at the end of the trip.

Based on their mileage and starting/ending percentages here are their respective (rough) efficiency numbers: 3.5 miles/kWh for the Leaf and 4.3 miles/kWh for the Tesla

@summertyme5748

5 жыл бұрын

Glad more folks are catching on to miles per Kilowatt this is the correct way to measure efficiency: www.greencarreports.com/news/1082737_electric-car-efficiency-forget-mpge-it-should-be-miles-kwh It’s so simple too, and allows you to make easy comparisons of cost per mile between electric and gas.

@akk8480

5 жыл бұрын

@@summertyme5748Or the orher way around. The car gives you Wh/mile on the screen . ( Who cares about gasoline consumption 😉)

@robb1165

5 жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to have a meter on the power cord to find out if the car gauges are accurate.

@ChrisParayno

5 жыл бұрын

Simple, AWD vs FWD.

@MarkAbele

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisParayno Yep, definitely. That combined with much better coefficient of drag.

The new "autopilot" doesn't do lane change. The old "Enhanced Autopilot" or new "Full Self Driving" do lane change.

@TimFSpears

5 жыл бұрын

Actually it does. Make sure you fully engage the indicator (not just the light tap). It will first verify the dashed lan line on the road and no cars interfering, then it will show a dashed blow lane line on the display, change lane, and then clear the indicator automatically.

@benjam47

5 жыл бұрын

@@TimFSpears Autopilot does not include lane changes, you must have "Enhanced Autopilot" or "Full Self Driving". It's right on Tesla's website (edited for brevity): Autopilot: Enables your car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically for other vehicles and pedestrians within its lane. Full Self-Driving Capability: Includes Auto Lane Change

This has got to be my favorite video clip of your channel!

I have been a Leaf driver for 7 years and just upgraded to the Leaf Plus. My only negative comment is the failure to use ECO mode. If you are optimizing both vehicles, it should be best configuration. You have decided to compare apples to oranges. Other than that, keeping the two together the whole trip kept speeds and acceleration pretty much identical. Overall great job. Side note: I drive in the Greater Washington DC Metropolitan Area, occasionally going up to Baltimore and down to Richmond. The Leaf Plus provides more than enough range for round trip both ways.

@jeffolson4731

4 жыл бұрын

If the Leaf had used ECO mode then the Model 3 should have been allowed to use Chill mode. The simple fact is the Leaf used more power for the same trip with neither car programmed to their energy efficient mode.

@matthunkovic3036

4 жыл бұрын

The Leaf is more functional in ECO ePedal than the Chill mode. I personally think they stacked this test toward Tesla. The heaviest driver in the Leaf and no ECO mode?

The model 3 has an ECO MODE it's called CHILL MODE definitely makes a big difference.

@oystein8371

5 жыл бұрын

Not quite. It's called range mode. Chill mode does nothing but limit the "throttle response".

@theluckydogvlogs1549

5 жыл бұрын

oystein8371 range mode is only available in the model s or model x. The model 3 doesn’t have a range mode

@oystein8371

5 жыл бұрын

@@theluckydogvlogs1549 ok. But still. Chill mode does not help on range.

@diablowlk

5 жыл бұрын

@@oystein8371 I have a model 3 and have tested both, there is a difference. Call it whatever you want

@oystein8371

5 жыл бұрын

@@diablowlk this has been tested many times and the effect from chill mode is exactly the same as if you just drove economically. I have model x 100d, and it's the same there.

Great test guys but the drivers stayed the same and only the videographer switched from one car to another, since DAD is heavier than Tommy... approximately (50lb) switching drivers was necessary as well, but overall great work, love you guys!

i would rather have a car that looks and feels more traditional with the benefit of being a all electric car, even if it has less performance

Love the real world testing. Can’t wait to see how the winter impacts these cars. Oh, and Roman, doesn’t the Leaf have a hands-free mode for the phone? We want you around for years more of great TFL!

Check if auto Lane change I'd enabled and also used the full turn signal. It seemed you were using the light push vs full push signal. You want to use full push for continuous signal and give it time.

Great video, guys! Real world and interesting comparison. Both cars actually did better than expected, quite amazing considering the difficult mountain conditions. Where's your 240v charger? Should only take 7-8 hours to charge so in the morning you're good to go for a full day of driving again.

8-bit sound track portion was great! Father-son combo is always a pleasure. I've got a power wagon and don't care about teslas lol but love watching your reviews

7:38 Old LEAF overtaking... :)

When you enter a trip in navigate on the tesla. In will tell you the percentage of the battery on arrival, if you drag the list down it will tell the round trip percentage.

Just realized how close yall are coming to 1 million subscribers

@seanmitchell3782

5 жыл бұрын

blitz5894 I think the Tesla is helping.

If the Model 3 had the same tires as the Leaf it would have won hands down. The Bridgestone Ecopia tires the Leaf comes with are much better for range than the sportier tires the Model 3 uses. I put the Model 3's Michelin MXM4 on my Leaf and immediately lost about 10% of my range.

Cheapest *used* Tesla 3 available in the UK: £22,500 ($29,447). Cheapest used 62kwh Leaf in UK: £11,995 ($15,698). Nearly double the price.. Good thing about the Leaf is that the range always gives you spare when it reaches zero; it's hard to run completely out of battery unless you're really trying! I also love the front charging port - really easy to use those short tethered cables at public charging stations.

Win for BEV's as both more or less got their rated range.

Why are you using level 1 charging? You might as well hookup a stationary bike and start peddling to recharge that thing! Owners will have setup a proper 240v charging system, 110v is ridiculous, 24hrs, jesus christ...

@anthonyc1883

5 жыл бұрын

mitchell dushesne True, but I'm guessing it's all they have right now in that garage. As the almost-brand new owners of the Tesla, I'm sure they will soon have the proper 240V circuit installed.

@MrMduchesne23

5 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyc1883 would have thought they would have prepped the garage since they were planning on purchasing one.

@thedopplereffect00

5 жыл бұрын

I think it would be a great video for them to do installing a L2 charger

Thank you for the most honest reviews on KZread ✅

Super real world, love these types of vids

Hi Tommy, There is a function in the navagation setting that says "Auto Lane Change".

Yea you're not exceeding the speed limit but you are driving in the left lane forcing people to go around you. Move to the right ugh

@alexwilsonpottery3733

5 жыл бұрын

Rick Rotary, so thats 24 arseholes who believe speed LIMITS are only advisory. Got it.

@fnsonicrick

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexwilsonpottery3733 no just one who thinks speed limits have anything to do with "slower traffic to the right"

@christophergrove4876

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexwilsonpottery3733 I agree. It is just self-righteous of ppl who say to 'move over so that I can go faster than the legal limit'.

Great video, good analysis by both of you, loved it.Thanks

this remind me coming to Denver in 2019. Colorado road trips are very scenic and I recommend everyone to go there at least once driving the mountains on the back road. SUV is a must

You need to buy the full self driving package if you want to change lanes ($7000 after delivery, $5000 at purchase) Autopilot only works in the lane you’re currently in

@jjanovsky1983

5 жыл бұрын

They bought an inventory car that likely was a few months old - in which case they got EAP (which is between current basic AP and FSD in terms of features)

@JoshDocea

5 жыл бұрын

@Centurion1973 Earlier in the video he stated he paid $3000 for autopilot. Advanced auto pilot was never that price so more than likely he got regular autopilot. Even thought the car was made earlier, Tesla likely resold the car with autopilot and full self driving with the new pricing that came out earlier this year.

@NukePooch1

5 жыл бұрын

Full self driving package doesn't currently exist. People who bought it are paying for something that may or may not come out in the future.

@dvwatts

5 жыл бұрын

N Pooch There is no may, it will.

@NukePooch1

5 жыл бұрын

@@dvwatts The technology that exists on current Teslas is not nearly good enough for full-self-driving. There is no LIDAR on these cars. Perhaps (but probably not) there will be some sort of way to retrofit the proper technology to current cars to be able to fulfill what people paid for. More thank likely, those that paid the cash, lost the money, and will see nothing (or very little that isn't true-self-driving capability) for it.

What was the Watt Hours per mile used by each of the cars? This is really their MPG.

@gertahnstrom784

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I also missed a final Wh/mi calculation for both of the cars of this trip.

@dexteradams4725

5 жыл бұрын

James Windland V. V.

@unclemarksdiyauto

5 жыл бұрын

James Windland, if my math is right, Tesla uses .29kw/mile and leaf uses .32kw / mile...

@Muskar2

5 жыл бұрын

@@unclemarksdiyauto 29kWh/100mi = 0.29kWh/mile = 290Wh/mile

@douglas685

5 жыл бұрын

@@unclemarksdiyauto Kind of amazing the Tesla is so efficient, considering the Tesla is much heavier and larger than the Leaf, and built to a more premium (heavy) quality where the leaf is more economical (lighter) in it's build.

The LEAF engineers may have designed from the ground up but they were still influenced by ICE design paradigms, whereas the Tesla engineers truly designed an EV from the ground up beginning with no such preconceptions; classic "in the box" versus "out of the box" thinking.

Fun video, do get a 240 Volt outlet, like the ones used by electric cloth dryers or electric ovens for your EV cars. You don't need a Tesla brand home charger 'outlet', just get a 1450 NEMA outlet, if you are near your electric panel box, it's less than $200 worth of cables , the NEMA 1450 outlet and extras. Charging using a regular outlet is super slow.

Don't you believe in hands free phone calls in car called Bluetooth

@leightonmann

5 жыл бұрын

THIS.

@Digidi4

5 жыл бұрын

you don't need to shift gears in an ev so you can hold a phone in your hand

@leightonmann

5 жыл бұрын

@@Digidi4 nope

This test seems useless. The Nissan Leaf adjusts the estimated range depending on driving style over the last 10 miles or so. The Tesla does not.. it uses a fixed value to calculate remaining range. This basically means, that the Leaf on the downhill run, gains a lot of estimated range, because the consumption is low. Sorry guys.. this test shows nothing.

@Pantimoto

5 жыл бұрын

When they got back they had the same battery %

@Andthorup

5 жыл бұрын

@@Pantimoto The battery is not the same size. Furthermore the Leaf does not have a linear curve for the showing of battery percentage. So unfortunately this does not give a good answer either

That was really fun! I was right there with you on the range anxiety, but that charge time... So, 110V? Still, pretty amazing tech. That was a great test and I'm really surprised the leaf did that well. How about comfort? Pretty close on that too? F

Good vid, quite enjoyable and informative. 👍