Excellent demonstration on how to play Waylon’s strategy with a smaller bankroll. I especially enjoyed you using Waylon’s expressions when rolling. I hope one day I will have the courage to increase my bankroll. It’s plain to see that a larger bankroll is the key to more wins. Thanks for the video.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Not a matter of courage, just a matter of having the extra cash. Larger bankrolls will come with time.

@ascent_engine

11 ай бұрын

A larger bankroll is the key to exposing yourself to the house edge for a longer period of time, and hence the key to more losses over time, not wins. When you're already up to high levels on the ladder and 7's are hitting you're going to get decimated.

Thanks for the video brother and the shout out! Simple yet very effective strategy ! One of my favorite

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Anytime. I really didn’t think it would be effective at this level of bankroll but it works.

Good video Mike... I think a great tool for the bankroll builder... appreciate your efforts

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Good Idea! Already filmed this weeks bankroll builder, but I will definitely use it for next weeks now that I know it can work.

I enjoy your camera setup and your explanation. You've earned a subscriber!🎉

@OnPointCraps

3 ай бұрын

Well thank you very much. I am glad you enjoy. I hope I can help you out.

This is one of my favorite Waylon's crap strategies.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

I really like it too as long as you have the bankroll to cover it.

Hello Mike,,,liked this video..thanks. I just made my very first KZread video myself. Lots to learn but it was fun and plan on making more. Thanks again for your hard work on giving great content.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Yo. This is a fun way to spread knowledge and improve your game.

Love it! Please always do the ATS for following along… This could work well on a Bubble Craps machine

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

It does very well on bubble craps. Thanks for the comment.

@frankschwartz673

Жыл бұрын

Works better for me on a live table here at Ameristar KC because their bubble craps machine spits out an ungodly amount 7’s. So many you could just hop the 7’s and make money

Good job and I have seen Waylon roll out this strategy, I like it.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It seems to be very effective.

@marcusbmarc

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Waylon also did a ladder strategy 4/10/7 with more units on the don't pass. First with 2 units on the DP one unit each on the 4/10. Then he did one with 3 units on the DP and one each on the 4/10 which was better when the 7 was hitting because you still profited.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcusbmarc yes, he has several variants and they all work pretty well.

@rogerhunter109

2 жыл бұрын

One of the variant I tried was hopping big red for 15 on the come out safe my bank several times

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogerhunter109 I typically don’t hedge bets but that one seem sound

Another good Waylon money maker is laying the four for $100 and buying the ten for $25. When the four wins it stays the same but if it loses you ladder a $100 unit and ladders down $100 when the four wins. When the ten loses it ladders up one $25 unit and when it wins you ladder down $25. This is real money maker. I tested it out on my home crap table with a $5,000 bankroll and won $3,160.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

I don't know that I have seen that one. I will have to look for it. Thanks for the info.

love low br good strats.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. That is one of the goals of this channel. I try to cater to the new player and/or low bankroll player.

Mike, I rolled this out today, profited $343. But there were some pucker up moments, like 120 on each

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely gets scary. But they you win twice and your back in it.

Waylon, do you ever on WGS, place a field bet as a hedge on the come out? Would love to see you live. I live in Mobile!

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

I am not Waylon, so I can’t answer this. I will ask next time I see him in chat.

@knowledgeableone8110

Жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Awe....So sorry.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

@@knowledgeableone8110 No problem

Have you tried this adding a field bet. My computer craps seems to like it.

@OnPointCraps

2 ай бұрын

I have not. Do you ladder the field as well? What level bet in the field?

I played this on a 10.00 bubble craps won 79 on 500 bankroll.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Nice win.

Note that when you take the other buy bet down they give you back the $1

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Vince. I thought so. Sometimes I remember it. I think this is why a lot of KZreadrs ignore the vig. I try to do it to show actual costs and payouts. Thanks for the feedback.

You are not taking BACK the vig when changing the bet. For instance, hitting the 10 at $30 = $60 win, but then laddering back down to $20... yes pay the vig on the 10, but you've already paid it for the 4. Shouldn't have to pay it again.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It always confuses me. Especially when I am trying to keep track of everything else.

Why do you lay the first bet instead of buying all the time.

@OnPointCraps

6 ай бұрын

I am not sure exactly what you mean. I Place the first bet at the $10 level. It is not cost effective to buy it at the low level. You will still pay a $1 Vig. $10 pays $18. If you buy it, it will pay $19. Some casinos won’t even accept buys at that level since the Vig is actually 50 cents. (20% of bet). I hope that makes sense. Thanks for the comment.

anybody know how to calculate the bankroll you need when you are planning to do ladder strategies? I can't seem to find a formula.

@OnPointCraps

8 ай бұрын

I don’t really know that there is a strategy. From watching most videos it is about a 50:1 ratio. If you are starting with $100 bets, you need at least $5000. Theoretically on a $10 you would need $500.

@NohandleJ

8 ай бұрын

@@OnPointCraps I see. Thank you!

Howdy and well done. BUT...I am pretty sure you are doing vig wrong. Say you are on $30 level...you paid $1 each for the bets on 4 and 10. (correct). 10 hits and pays $60, now you ladder down both bets to $20. You only need to buy the 10 (as it is now a "new" bet" . The 4 was just sitting there. NO need to pay again for that! NOW, lets say the 10 hits again. You get $40 and ladder down to $10 level. At this point the house OWES YOU a buck as you pulled down the buy on the 4 and now make a place bet. Vig is tricky and upfront vig is rude and tricky. Don't let the house rob you anymore than they already are ;)

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

You may be right. Vig is tricky and MD makes you pay up front. I will look more into it. Thanks for the advice.

@tommydean7267

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps The vig is attached to the bet. If you pull down a buy (or a lay for that matter) you get the vig back as well. It is also that fact that makes each vig payable to the individual bet. If you bought the 10 for $60 it would cost you $3. But buying the 10 for $30 and the 4 for $30 only costs 2. Tricky ;)

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommydean7267 that makes sense but didn’t

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommydean7267 oh yeah, I forgot about that. Total bet combined determines vig and not individual buys. Fortunately it doesn’t affect the play that much, but like you said don’t give the casino more than their share.

@tommydean7267

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps No. Each bet should be evaluated for vig on it's own. Hence my example. If you buy the 4 and 10 for $30 each you should pay 1 buck per bet. (although here in Australia they charge 50 cents per $10 so moot point) If they combined the bets and charged you $3, what would happen when you pulled down just ONE of the bets? The vig is on the bet and you get the vig back if you pull it down unresolved. That is all I am getting at ;)

1:1 martingale with a vig. Like betting banker on baccarat

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Very similar. I think it is about as close to 1:1 as you can get in craps. Thanks for the comment.

A win is a win !!!!!

@OnPointCraps

9 ай бұрын

Exactly! That’s how I look at it. Anytime you can walk away from the casino with a little extra money in your pocket is a good day.

Be honest with me … how much does KZread pay you at your current level ? I will like, share, and subscribe and try this on Bubble Craps

@OnPointCraps

9 ай бұрын

It depends on the month. Typically it is between $40 and $50 a month.

I wonder which would make more money, someone playing the Ladder 6 & 8 OR someone playing the Ladder 4 & 10?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Well you just gave me some video content. I will give you credit for the question. Look for the video in the near future.

I would do the opposite, place the 4 & 10 if 7 out don't double, just keep placing same amt., after a hit then press once, twice, whatever your comfort level is,

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Pressing wins is a another possible strategy. This one doesn’t double the bet but increases or decreases one betting unit depending on loss or win. It seems to work, give it a go and see what you think.

@e1369e

2 жыл бұрын

I would let the dice dictate; I've seen many margintale systems in the end your last bet you lose is your biggest, I'd rather leave with my highest bet won

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@e1369e fair enough. This isn’t a true martingale however, since you don’t double the bet.

Dang, that's a cheap tip.

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

😂 true. But anything is better than nothing.

Over paying gig

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

You mean the Vig? I still have issues with how that pays out when going up and down the ladder. Unfortunately I have to rely on dealers to get it right.