Watercooling a 14900K and a 4090 in a 13 litre NAS case [part 5]
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Пікірлер: 47
@AndroidBeacshire16 күн бұрын
this is quickly turning into the goat of pc builds
@andrev5207
13 күн бұрын
I think you mean boat if he doesn’t add an expansion tank
@AndroidBeacshire
10 күн бұрын
@@andrev5207 thermal expansion is a harsh mistress
@andrev5207
10 күн бұрын
@@AndroidBeacshire Will certainly blend in beautifully with any steampunk themed decor 👍
@yeshwantkethineni3694
8 күн бұрын
this used for petricor's 5L build would be the real goat
@glynkatkin17 күн бұрын
Awesome work, a brass plaque with a logo and power button & I/O would really finish that front panel off..mayb even some washers between the mounting points, to bring it outward just a touch more for more breathability.
@joseph316417 күн бұрын
Awesome work, thanks for always sharing the whole process not just end results!
@ffwast3 күн бұрын
I like when he said "It's soldering time" and soldered all over it
@sachak17 күн бұрын
16:38 mins into the vid so far, loving the work so far. For the tap, instead of having to stick a flat head screwdriver in there, perhaps a cool idea would be to get a brass rod with a knurled grip that reaches the bottom so you could easily just grab it from the bottom and twist it open or closed with your fingers.
@VoidOperator16 күн бұрын
As far as contrasting on the front panel, I think you should cut out a Billet Labs logo out of copper and solder it to the center of that raised piece. Though I guess you probably can't solder copper to aluminum? I'm sure you could find a way around that
@pdpMorphinTime10 күн бұрын
You may want to do another pressure test after polishing. Just in case removing the extra flux creates a micro pin hole.
@pdpMorphinTime
10 күн бұрын
Oh, nvm.
@manasmittal33125 күн бұрын
Can't wait for the next part. 😮😮😮😮
@c_beau16 күн бұрын
The Dremel on that poor rug is unreal lmfao. Good thing the build looks amazing so it's worth it in the end. Edit: OML he broke out the polisher on the rug as well 😭
@BilletLabs
15 күн бұрын
It's the metalworking rug. Every workshop should have one.
@Bengt.Lueers17 күн бұрын
Awesomely detailed build as always. I really appreciate the fill port solution. I hadn't heard of this method before. I was wondering if a flat head screwdriver in a PC isn't rather dangerous. In case it slips, it might just damage something. Perhaps a hex nut screwdriver would be safer.
@BilletLabs
17 күн бұрын
The slot should be accessible enough to guide it in with the other hand, but if it's tricky to do, we might grind a hex onto the end instead.
@Bengt.Lueers
16 күн бұрын
Thanks for considering my concern, @BilletLabs!
@scpdatabase96912 күн бұрын
Are you going to do a cost analysis after the fact? I would love to know how much a prototype like this costs vs. what you would expect to be able to get it down to on a custom order. I can see quite a bit of appeal having so much power in a small package.
@BALDYMANS12316 күн бұрын
Stunning work
@dophir1716 күн бұрын
In keeping with the car theme, perhaps a mesh surrounding the front IO like an old car's front grill? Finer mesh than the wide spacing of the side bars, but not so fine that it's actually a filter, but that way you can also center the billet labs logo like a car maker's medallion. Do the mesh in a brass color and it will pop and provide contrast for whatever color the IO/logo will be
@mgut1715 күн бұрын
for the front panel i would go with 2 usb 3.0 and a type c and they are vertical and maybe some rgb light back of the 2nd plate you added
@EcoAcid
10 күн бұрын
The customer who ordered this system doesn't seem like the type to appreciate RGB..
@BALDYMANS12316 күн бұрын
cut the hole bigger. leaving a 5mm outside edge and copy the bars around to the sides
@ikskr221916 күн бұрын
SO good
@keibohow6916 күн бұрын
I think you will have to open up the top of the case! I am going to be honest with you lose the case and keep it open frame. Also if you go down the case rought open up the back plate behind the front panel. also this might be handy Hycote Extreme Heat Clear Spray Paint 400ml
@lo0nyk16 күн бұрын
just WOW!
@Fincher12317 күн бұрын
Hey yo! U need a Valve! So u can do it like JazTwocents did show us, with a Vacuum pump. But i dont build it so do how u like to do it.... tralalaaaa Edit: I have written the comment after 1 min watchtime. But u can hace a T Fitting in it with a PC Drain valve to screw on when needed and when not needed they get the plug on it. So iam at 5:03 lets see your solution =) Why dont go with the right radiator t Fitting in the block rather then around? you can use the other opening...
@Laundry_Hamper17 күн бұрын
Spicy toaster 🌶
@andrev520713 күн бұрын
With all that rigid copper pipe and no air in the system something is going to break or burst as soon as it heats up. I think the weakest link will be the aluminium radiator tubes. Why every automotive coolant system has an expansion tank.
@andrev5207
13 күн бұрын
The amount of pressure created as the water expands will pop one of the welds guarenteed or even pop the seal on the pump. Please add a stagnant leg somewhere half full of air. I would even put a pin size hole in the cap.
@BilletLabs
12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. There will always be a little bit of air left in the radiators, so this is unlikely to be an issue. If it does get over-pressurised, water will leak through one of the o-rings long before blowing any solder joints, and we'll catch that during testing before sending to the customer, and we'll fix it at that point. But from experience (we've built a few reservoir-less loops with copper) it's unlikely to cause any problems in practise. All the other parts expand slightly with heat as well, and all parts, especially radiators, have some flex in them which will reduce internal pressure. But as we said, we'll test it thoroughly before sending it out.
@Sadnlove6 күн бұрын
The sliding telescopic unions, who makes them?
@BilletLabs
5 күн бұрын
We do! billetlabs.com/products/straight-telescopic-rotary-fitting-male-male
@Spreadie17 күн бұрын
A lot of radiators have G1/4" ports on both sides of the end tanks - was that not an option for this size rad? You could stand the rig on it's end and use the rad as a reservoir, when filling. I've probably missed something obvious, so feel free to make me look stupid. It's okay, I can take it. ;o)
@BilletLabs
16 күн бұрын
There's very little option for 184mm rads, and none of them have additional ports unfortunately. Even if there were, the reservoir must be directly above the pump to ensure there are no air bubbles. We could fill it from the rad, and the water would eventually trickle down to the pump, but there's no certainty there isn't a large air gap on the way there that might kill the pump when it reaches it. Everything is made harder by not being able to see the coolant as well. Thanks for the question ✌
@DutchHollandLowz17 күн бұрын
love it but flip the fan directions. please tried to send info. wont let me comment. Counter flow heat exchanger vs parallel
@BilletLabs
17 күн бұрын
Why? If we're missing something we'd love to know.
@DutchHollandLowz
17 күн бұрын
@BilletLabs in a loop, you want the hottest watter to hit the hottest air and the coldest water to hit the coldest air. That gives you the largest average temp delta. Gives you the best chance to cool the liquid to room temp. If you do, the hottest water gets the coldest air. Like you have it now, the second rad is adding very little benefit. You should try to plumb with a soft line and do thermal testing first.
@BilletLabs
17 күн бұрын
@@DutchHollandLowz Do you have a source / data for this info? Our current knowledge is that this is a loop order thing, which makes no difference over the whole loop. Would love to learn more if we're wrong though.
@DutchHollandLowz
16 күн бұрын
@@BilletLabs I cant seem to post links in comments. you'll need to look at counter flow heat exchangers VS parallel flow. counter-flow is better and what i think you should flip to.
@BilletLabs
15 күн бұрын
@@DutchHollandLowz Interesting! Thanks for this. Our thinking was that the larger rads should be operating at the highest efficiency and should therefore get the cold air. We researched it at the time and found that there was no information available, but like with most loop-order things, it was probably only a negligible difference anyway. We'll test it in future on another build I'm sure ✌
@hellhoun8915 күн бұрын
Sorry to say this but 14900ks have been showing up 50% failure rates in server configs. I hope this doesnt happen to this build or you can always do a AMD build also.. I wouldnt mind watching that one too kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXV5lrCQn9yzis4.html&ab_channel=GamersNexus
@katinmengodrago191216 күн бұрын
Don't remember where i heard it, but KZread algorithm hates numbering videos. If it's correct, you should avoid it and it might increase your views. If that doesn't work, you can always write 'you won't believe '.
@BilletLabs
15 күн бұрын
A couple of people have said this now. We are now testing this as you can probably see. Thanks!
Пікірлер: 47
this is quickly turning into the goat of pc builds
@andrev5207
13 күн бұрын
I think you mean boat if he doesn’t add an expansion tank
@AndroidBeacshire
10 күн бұрын
@@andrev5207 thermal expansion is a harsh mistress
@andrev5207
10 күн бұрын
@@AndroidBeacshire Will certainly blend in beautifully with any steampunk themed decor 👍
@yeshwantkethineni3694
8 күн бұрын
this used for petricor's 5L build would be the real goat
Awesome work, a brass plaque with a logo and power button & I/O would really finish that front panel off..mayb even some washers between the mounting points, to bring it outward just a touch more for more breathability.
Awesome work, thanks for always sharing the whole process not just end results!
I like when he said "It's soldering time" and soldered all over it
16:38 mins into the vid so far, loving the work so far. For the tap, instead of having to stick a flat head screwdriver in there, perhaps a cool idea would be to get a brass rod with a knurled grip that reaches the bottom so you could easily just grab it from the bottom and twist it open or closed with your fingers.
As far as contrasting on the front panel, I think you should cut out a Billet Labs logo out of copper and solder it to the center of that raised piece. Though I guess you probably can't solder copper to aluminum? I'm sure you could find a way around that
You may want to do another pressure test after polishing. Just in case removing the extra flux creates a micro pin hole.
@pdpMorphinTime
10 күн бұрын
Oh, nvm.
Can't wait for the next part. 😮😮😮😮
The Dremel on that poor rug is unreal lmfao. Good thing the build looks amazing so it's worth it in the end. Edit: OML he broke out the polisher on the rug as well 😭
@BilletLabs
15 күн бұрын
It's the metalworking rug. Every workshop should have one.
Awesomely detailed build as always. I really appreciate the fill port solution. I hadn't heard of this method before. I was wondering if a flat head screwdriver in a PC isn't rather dangerous. In case it slips, it might just damage something. Perhaps a hex nut screwdriver would be safer.
@BilletLabs
17 күн бұрын
The slot should be accessible enough to guide it in with the other hand, but if it's tricky to do, we might grind a hex onto the end instead.
@Bengt.Lueers
16 күн бұрын
Thanks for considering my concern, @BilletLabs!
Are you going to do a cost analysis after the fact? I would love to know how much a prototype like this costs vs. what you would expect to be able to get it down to on a custom order. I can see quite a bit of appeal having so much power in a small package.
Stunning work
In keeping with the car theme, perhaps a mesh surrounding the front IO like an old car's front grill? Finer mesh than the wide spacing of the side bars, but not so fine that it's actually a filter, but that way you can also center the billet labs logo like a car maker's medallion. Do the mesh in a brass color and it will pop and provide contrast for whatever color the IO/logo will be
for the front panel i would go with 2 usb 3.0 and a type c and they are vertical and maybe some rgb light back of the 2nd plate you added
@EcoAcid
10 күн бұрын
The customer who ordered this system doesn't seem like the type to appreciate RGB..
cut the hole bigger. leaving a 5mm outside edge and copy the bars around to the sides
SO good
I think you will have to open up the top of the case! I am going to be honest with you lose the case and keep it open frame. Also if you go down the case rought open up the back plate behind the front panel. also this might be handy Hycote Extreme Heat Clear Spray Paint 400ml
just WOW!
Hey yo! U need a Valve! So u can do it like JazTwocents did show us, with a Vacuum pump. But i dont build it so do how u like to do it.... tralalaaaa Edit: I have written the comment after 1 min watchtime. But u can hace a T Fitting in it with a PC Drain valve to screw on when needed and when not needed they get the plug on it. So iam at 5:03 lets see your solution =) Why dont go with the right radiator t Fitting in the block rather then around? you can use the other opening...
Spicy toaster 🌶
With all that rigid copper pipe and no air in the system something is going to break or burst as soon as it heats up. I think the weakest link will be the aluminium radiator tubes. Why every automotive coolant system has an expansion tank.
@andrev5207
13 күн бұрын
The amount of pressure created as the water expands will pop one of the welds guarenteed or even pop the seal on the pump. Please add a stagnant leg somewhere half full of air. I would even put a pin size hole in the cap.
@BilletLabs
12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. There will always be a little bit of air left in the radiators, so this is unlikely to be an issue. If it does get over-pressurised, water will leak through one of the o-rings long before blowing any solder joints, and we'll catch that during testing before sending to the customer, and we'll fix it at that point. But from experience (we've built a few reservoir-less loops with copper) it's unlikely to cause any problems in practise. All the other parts expand slightly with heat as well, and all parts, especially radiators, have some flex in them which will reduce internal pressure. But as we said, we'll test it thoroughly before sending it out.
The sliding telescopic unions, who makes them?
@BilletLabs
5 күн бұрын
We do! billetlabs.com/products/straight-telescopic-rotary-fitting-male-male
A lot of radiators have G1/4" ports on both sides of the end tanks - was that not an option for this size rad? You could stand the rig on it's end and use the rad as a reservoir, when filling. I've probably missed something obvious, so feel free to make me look stupid. It's okay, I can take it. ;o)
@BilletLabs
16 күн бұрын
There's very little option for 184mm rads, and none of them have additional ports unfortunately. Even if there were, the reservoir must be directly above the pump to ensure there are no air bubbles. We could fill it from the rad, and the water would eventually trickle down to the pump, but there's no certainty there isn't a large air gap on the way there that might kill the pump when it reaches it. Everything is made harder by not being able to see the coolant as well. Thanks for the question ✌
love it but flip the fan directions. please tried to send info. wont let me comment. Counter flow heat exchanger vs parallel
@BilletLabs
17 күн бұрын
Why? If we're missing something we'd love to know.
@DutchHollandLowz
17 күн бұрын
@BilletLabs in a loop, you want the hottest watter to hit the hottest air and the coldest water to hit the coldest air. That gives you the largest average temp delta. Gives you the best chance to cool the liquid to room temp. If you do, the hottest water gets the coldest air. Like you have it now, the second rad is adding very little benefit. You should try to plumb with a soft line and do thermal testing first.
@BilletLabs
17 күн бұрын
@@DutchHollandLowz Do you have a source / data for this info? Our current knowledge is that this is a loop order thing, which makes no difference over the whole loop. Would love to learn more if we're wrong though.
@DutchHollandLowz
16 күн бұрын
@@BilletLabs I cant seem to post links in comments. you'll need to look at counter flow heat exchangers VS parallel flow. counter-flow is better and what i think you should flip to.
@BilletLabs
15 күн бұрын
@@DutchHollandLowz Interesting! Thanks for this. Our thinking was that the larger rads should be operating at the highest efficiency and should therefore get the cold air. We researched it at the time and found that there was no information available, but like with most loop-order things, it was probably only a negligible difference anyway. We'll test it in future on another build I'm sure ✌
Sorry to say this but 14900ks have been showing up 50% failure rates in server configs. I hope this doesnt happen to this build or you can always do a AMD build also.. I wouldnt mind watching that one too kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXV5lrCQn9yzis4.html&ab_channel=GamersNexus
Don't remember where i heard it, but KZread algorithm hates numbering videos. If it's correct, you should avoid it and it might increase your views. If that doesn't work, you can always write 'you won't believe '.
@BilletLabs
15 күн бұрын
A couple of people have said this now. We are now testing this as you can probably see. Thanks!