4th exit spiral roundabout kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoqq1LdthKrPkdo.html

Useful but it's ridiculous how late the road planners leave it to let you know which lane to be in. I'm sure the road planners are either on something or not taking something they're supposed to be taking

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

You are spot on

@ericgraham7026

Жыл бұрын

I agree entirely. I think that all road design and signage should include at least one professional driver and at least one advanced driver on the panel. We might then get more sensible road layouts.

@KILLER.KNIGHT

10 ай бұрын

@@ericgraham7026What’s the difference between the two exactly?

@KILLER.KNIGHT

10 ай бұрын

@@BobsieWobsie I luckily have 20/15 vision.

@hybridangel3403

6 ай бұрын

@@ericgraham7026 they just need to be sensible.

I'm preparing to travel through Scotland for three weeks and this has been the best videos to get familiar with roundabouts and UK road signs that I've seen. Thanks for making such a helpful video!

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and safe driving

I have dyslexia and dyspraxia and this stuff just blows my mind. I think it's the biggest obstacle left between me and passing. 😩

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

It takes lots of learners time to understand these types off roundabouts. Good luck

@wallstreettrapper2066

3 жыл бұрын

Me too bro I have adhd

@Zacksleeps

2 жыл бұрын

@@wallstreettrapper2066 I have what I believe to be undiagnosed adhd and quit learning about 10 years ago. Tempted to try again but only now realised that there seems to be a link with finding driving hard and adhd! I get so damn confused lol. My instructor said i had great control of the car and put me in for tests, but on each test, i'd get super confused and do something dangerous and get a serious/major driving fault/failure

@blueninjanoname7338

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zacksleeps Pretty sure I am the same, undiagnosed adhd. But you may also have an instructor who isn't great at explaining them to you. Mine doesn't do much in lessons.

Thank you so much for this, I’ve learnt so much about how big roundabouts work. I get really nervous driving on roundabouts

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I sometimes struggle with Lane discipline but this is sooo helpful! Thank you!

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Super helpful thanks so much!

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to help

This really helped me. Thank you a million ❤❤❤❤

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words. Safe driving

Thank You sooo much sir !!!! It really did help to understand so much better🙏🏻

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Safe driving

This way is much easier than in Spain. If everyone follows the indication signs before roundabouts and place the vehicle in the correct lane, it will work nicely. Be careful if you drive in Spain cause drivers don't care about the position before entering roundabouts, so they leave them from whichever lane!! Thank you for these driving lessons!!

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that tip

Very helpful video Big Thanks for sharing

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

Very lovey video I was looking for about spiral roundabouts examples

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

At 3.45 you’re in the right lane of two to enter the roundabout for the third exit. When you enter the roundabout there are 3 lanes. You go to the right most lane hugging the round about (which is obviously correct) There are no guide lines sending you to that lane and none of the signs in the lead up tell you to go into that one. As a new driver how would I know that lane is for me and not say the middle of the 3 lanes?

Very informative video mate. I just have a few questions about roundabouts. Now, what if for example there a lot of traffic & you're not able to see any road marking signs before choosing a lane due to heavy traffic plus you're not familiar with the area, plus all the road sinage on side of the road is blocked from view by HGV lorries, how are drivers supposed to know which lane to choose? I know practice makes it easier, & knowing your route before driving is essential, also what if drivers need to travel when visibility is low for instance at night, or what if the road sinage is blocked from view by branches from trees which i have seen quite often around London, especially on small dual carraigeways, also some sinage such as road markings on lanes is hardly even visable due to wear & tear from cars driving over it so many times, i have seen this quite a lot on Londons roads quite often too. Having said all this, how do people expect new drivers to pass their tests on UK's terrible roads with terrible road sinage & sometimes low visibiility due to heavy traffic, or being obscured by branches or road markings faded due to wear & tear, let alone having to do tests on the roads with the most impatient drivers on the roads? Couse, it depends which city you're in, i'm bang in the centre of London, one of the most hated roads to drive around in. I know for certain that road signage position in the UK isn't the greatest, it could be done better by placing them in better positions, i've driven down some roads where road signs didn't even make any sense at all.

Very useful thank you very much

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

Your content is invaluable

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Safe driving

Very informative thanks

@JamesTravis

3 ай бұрын

Safe driving

This really has helped thankyou for another video got my test in less than a month wish me luck 🙏 🙂

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

Best of luck!

@pukkazpenny

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis thankyou 😁

Very informative and helpful, but at 10:10 I shat my breeches when the strings kicked in

What would make this video perfect is if your voice over instructions explained when you signal. As I'm still a bit confused on signalling right when turning right on there big spiral roundabouts 👍

I love your videos so much they are really helpful, I cant wait to start my intensive course haven't driven since September so your videos are really useful 😊

@samanthawebb2139

3 жыл бұрын

My test is booked but apparently its the harder test route near me and apparently there's no marks on the roundabouts which is worrying, as the roundabouts was always something I didn't like.

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

Happy you enjoy the videos. Good luck with the test and lessons when they start. Safe driving

@YorkWhippet

Жыл бұрын

@@samanthawebb2139 How did you get on with the test?

I live near this roundabout! Done lots of learning practice on it 😂

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Excellent. You will know that at the moment the lane markings are different because of the road closure for Bow Brickhill. Safe driving

@sunshining3697

Жыл бұрын

You're lucky i live near like this round about ,but my instructor shows me at the last minute, he took over ring road,😞😞

Thanks for info on taking 4th exit.. 😁

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

No problem. Safe driving

Hi Travis Can you please create some videos on redmoor roundabout? From different angles please, and mostly for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th exits. There are not many videos on complex roundabouts or the ones where a lane is to be changed quickly and at the right time.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

I was going to record one this week, but I am waiting till they move the traffic cones. As soon as it is clear I will record one.

I have a question here. @5:30 ...as we approach the second lane....i can see the second lane road markings are spiralling into the first lane when you pass the first exit....I question is if we are supposed to follow the road markings ( dotted lines) why did you rather following the dotted lines shifted to the second lane....? This is my first question. My 2 query is if you have followed the dotted lines after passing the first exit...it would have guided you into the 3rd exit....am i right in this? Please clarify. My 3 Rd query is are we supposed to follow the dotted lines guiding us into the correct lane or is it after passing each exit should we look for the road signs....in short are we supposed to follow the dotted lines or the directions/locations mentioned on the road after each exit ?? .

I try my best to be in the right lane in advance. I do wish there were more white arrows on the roads where I live. Some local roundabouts, I've had to learn off by heart.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

It does become tricky if white arrows are worn

Thank you for sharing this. Video you don’t get this from all instructors.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words.

When changing lane in 4:21 into the outer lane right after the second exit - would that work any different on same design roundabout but without traffic lights system? Does traffic light change anything in terms of maneuvering on the roundabout? I see lots of similarly designed roundabouts with new lane division/choice after each exit but without traffic lights. Could you position yourself like that (approaching from the right turn lane) on the bend with second exit even with no traffic light on roundabout?

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

The traffic lights makes it easier. That should be the same lane changing with or without lights as long as the lanes and signs do.

At 2:55 you mention nothing about signaling left to leave the roundabout at exit 2. Also, at 7:04 although the lane has only an arrow pointing forward, are you signaling right because you plan to go right or not signaling because of some reason? Could you explain please? Thankyou.

7:59 Are you supposed to indicate left as you continue in to this exit lane?

Great video :) although how come at 3.30 it shows two lanes and it tells you to stick to the right however at 4.06 there is 3 lanes to choose from?

@stephencourtney324

8 ай бұрын

I also don’t understand this

Hi Travis and everyone else, do you signal at all on these types of roundabouts? Of course when changing lanes, but what about when on approach or when exiting?

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

Yes if you are going left or right

@SB-ew3bk

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis Okay, thanks Travis :)

Hi Travis.. Are the roundabout marking on 4:57 incorrect? If i look at the lane marking on the middle lane it pushes you out into the left-hand lane on the spiral roundabout and not into the middle land. Am i missing something?

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

The middle lane entrance is dual purpose. If you are going ahead you would come across to the left. If you are going right you would stay in the middle longer till you pass the second exit then come across to the left.

When you're exiting 4th exit and you can't move into left hand lane and the arrow on the road in the middle lane only points right, can you still exit from the middle lane? I'm talking about the Birchanger Green Roundabout, Bishops Stortford that has been altered in recent years.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

It is hard to say without seeing a picture of the lanes and lane markings

@MsOtisRegrets1

Жыл бұрын

My own guess is that it is as the slip road to the M11 has two lanes on it but I could be wrong. This particular roundabout has been altered over the years making it a 'double' roundabout with an outside 'circle' as well as an inner roundabout. It's off putting.@@JamesTravis

Just rewrote this as it was a bit long winded - confused regarding the roundabout at 4.00. you are in the right of 2 lanes going to Bedford. as you hit the roundabout there is a left lane 1st exit going off, but then all of a sudden there' is 3 lanes. seeing as the 3rd exit is more or less straight ahead I would have thought the middle lane was the best option but then cars from the left lane were going into it - who has priority for the middle of 3 lanes lane when you are coming off a 2 lane road onto a 3 lane roundabout?

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

As you pass the first exit, the middle and left lane both go left only onto A5 south only. As you are passing the second exit you move across to either the middle or to the left. I tend to opt for the middle because you will get cars in your left blind spot not turning off to the A5 south and going straight on.

@sico6246

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis many thanks for your reply. The only thing if I'm correct is that there were no signs except for the markings on the road which you cant see until you pass the first exit. when you were entering the roundabout all I could see were 3 lanes. is it just a case if you're in the wrong lane of just signaling and moving over asap?

if you don't know how to navigate the roundabouts, they can be a hell of a headache .........., especially in London where there's not much time to check where you're going as the traffic is horrendous and everybody tries to jump in front of you, motorcycles, bicycles, people and other cars ............. is simple hell going into traffic roundabouts in London.

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

It can be difficult in London

Hello Travis, I have a question to ask. At 4:05, Silver cab and then black suv are crossing their lanes. Is it correct?

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

They should of gone to the left lane on the roundabout.

@wathsalaheenkende5563

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis Thanks so much for the reply. If you don't mind can I ask you another question please? At 5:07, if we are in the middle lane, after we enter to the roundabout we need to postion our car into the first lane right? Instead of that why we are going to the middle lane? I don't know where I'm struggling. Apologies if it's a stupid question to ask.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

The sign on approach said use middle lane. If the sign was not there, then I might consider using right lane

Do we need to indicate right for 3rd exit (heading to Bedford)? 3:51 or no indication at all

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

No, because it’s straight on

@Dtigernumber1

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis ok now I got it. Thank you 😊

What happens if it’s too busy to get over to the other lane to exit ? Do you carry on going around or stop and wait to be let into the lane?

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

If you cannot cross over to your next lane on your left because of some unforeseen reason. Then you could either take the next exit or check to go to the right lane and go round again.

Hi Travis at 9:16 why did you change lane to your left too early? was not your lane meant to keep you on the right side of the road when you exit the roundabout? I thought this was part of lane discipline to not change lane while on the roundabout.. please clarify. Thank you in advance

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct that I could of stayed in that lane and come off in the right. But if the left lane was clear I moved across to make it easier for me after I came off the roundabout. If it was busy in the left I would of stayed in the lane and come off in the right, then I would of moved over to the left when it was safe to do so. Hope that helps explain my reasoning

@vashstampede360

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis Thank you so much, all the best Sir!

very helpfull as i cant do roundabouts easy.i really struggle .your volume is very low on this video.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Happy the video helped. Safe driving

At 5.25, you did not follow the road markings at all, and somehow you ended up on the correct lane? Literally no lines led you to the middle lane, but that was the correct thing to do. I am so confused. I thought no matter what, you have to follow your lines. I have a full driving license, but basically I am just driving around basic and practiced routes, I am not going anywhere near a big roundabout or motorway. Can you tell me a basic rule please, what to do at these ones? Do I have to follow the lines on my left or right? I

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, on the approach to the roundabout at 4:43 the roundabout sign says Fenny Stratford is the 3rd exit, as we get to the roundabout 4:54 the signs on the right say for Fenny Startford enter and use the middle lane. The signs are telling me what to do.

@projectreturnofthemac6625

3 жыл бұрын

I understand your confusion Vivien. The way the short dashed lines coming from our entry to the roundabout are painted make it appear that you can either take the first exit or stay on the roundabout in what is now lane 1. Maybe it is clearer when actually sat in the car but in the video it doesn’t look like you have the option of both lane 1 and 2 on the roundabout from the middle lane at the lights based on the dashed lines. Sorry I haven’t actually answered your question!

@christophermiller1685

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis this confuses me too Travis. I understand the signs tell you to go to Fenny Stratford but the dashed lines on the middle lane guide you to the left hand lane after the 1st exit? Do you just ignore these then 😭 I feel like the more videos I watch on these the more confused I get.

@aidanmullan6642

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis it seems the sign contradicts the road markings in this case

can you tell me about indicating on spiral roundabouts please

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

What would you like to know?

@jamielittlewood3607

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis do you need to indicate as you leave the round about as I saw a few people indicating when they were to the right of you leaving the roundabout but is this correct. Thanks

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@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

5:22 - Very, very confusing: the lines direct you towards a *different* lane (the far left-hand lane), but you cross *over* that lane boundary into the middle lane. Seems muddled to me - either the lane markings or the destination directions.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

They do take a lot of practice

My insurance company says that if you are in three lane roundabout and are in left lane with big arrows pointing to left and Road number written on it,you can ignore this and drive on,putting other vehicles in danger,it will be their fault if you hit them.

Seems easier, but have you got videos of spiral roundabouts without traffic lights?

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, check out this playlist kzread.info/head/PLhk312x91yigCdSMxhbAh0ZD7pAXhoJKR

Everything is perfect. But can you please tell us about the singals. If we are going 3rd exit on a spiral roundabout do we need to signal or no?

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

If the 3rd exit is to your right on the approach, then signal right. If the 3rd exit is ahead or to your left on the approach, then don’t signal.

@jhewitthunt

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis but what if your turning right, but using the left of 2 lanes that both go right? Would you still indicate right when in the left lane? Thanks

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhewitthunt yes

@jhewitthunt

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTravis nice simple and quick reply. Thanks!

These spirals are a nightmare. This video confirms we all need a PhD in spirology to understand them.

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

That’s funny

I have a question how can you identify a spiral roundabout

Great video but the background music is too distracting.

@JamesTravis

8 ай бұрын

Sorry about that

Not all spirals have lights tho and I cant just pause In real time to see what lane I should be in when I'm already checking my mirrors and worrying about signal and braking to the roundabout, like it's really helpful video but you saying use the lights to help you plan, and im like bruh mine dont have them I have to a million different things to make sure I'm safe

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

My channel playlist on spiral roundabouts has other ones with no lights on. Thanks for watching

I think I need to slow down when it comes to the sign I kept messing up with this oh god

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with your driving lessons

Thumbs-up from me. My Internet was down

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Phil.

Do you think driving lessons will be allowed by March?

@JamesTravis

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I don’t know. If I had to guess, end March April at earliest

Not all roundabouts have this much clear marking

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Yoiu are correct

There's something I would like to share with you. You have made a number of unnecessary lane changes, apparently without applying MSMPSL. This would be a test fail in my mind. 5:01 Starting correctly in the middle lane. This lane then leads to the left lane after the 1st exit. 5:28 Lane change into the middle lane, which is not where your markings direct you. No MSMPSL. 6:02 Another lane change from the middle lane into left lane. No MSMPSL. This is the lane that the spiral would have led you to if you'd followed it - so both of your changes were entirely unnecessary and laden with risk to other road users. Your mistake appears to be that you are following the lane markings for 'FEN'. These markings are not just for those who have entered the roundabout where you did, but are also for others who have entered at different points and who are being led along a different route through the roundabout.

@SilverBullet2345

2 жыл бұрын

7:04 he does it again. He's reading the signs and assuming it applies to the roundabout itself, but they only have information for the lane to position in on approach to the roundabout. Once on the roundabout you must follow the dashed lines.

@zoezebra4013

Жыл бұрын

yet another example of screwed up road markings on a roundabout. yes, he should've followed the dotted line, but it should've taken him to FEN lane. Driving correctly he would need to leave roundabout earlier. what a mess...

Good video but could really do without the background music whilst trying to concentrate on the video

@JamesTravis

2 жыл бұрын

On my next roundabout video which comes out this Monday, there is no background music.

All good. But now imagine its busy and none of the markings on the road are visible... And its dark... And google maps isnt as helpful because you don't have a phone cradle because amazon hasnt delivered it yet... I prefer old roundabouts because of this. 2 lanes. exit on the left lane. Pick any exit. On your way. So much better for wayfinding.

@JamesTravis

5 ай бұрын

Yes old style roundabout is ok

Could you please make your videos a bit louder?

@JamesTravis

Жыл бұрын

Ok thanks

Sounds too low when you speak

6:37