Watch This Before You Buy A Motorola Talkabout or Garmin Rino GPS Radio.

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1) Yes, we know you need to hold the radios in the same orientation (we tried multiple angles off camera).
2) Yes, we know this isn't apples to apples.
3) Yes, we know the Garmin model is older.
If you're trying to poke holes in the test, we've probably considered it. This was just a quick and dirty distance test with two different radios.
Rusty and Chris test the claims of Motorola and Garmin FRS / GMRS radios by communicating from mountain peak to mountain peak with them.
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0:00:43 Explaining FRS GMRS Test
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  • @Equip2Endure
    @Equip2Endure3 жыл бұрын

    Anyone ever have to rely on FRS or GMRS comms in an emergency?

  • @lucycruz9123

    @lucycruz9123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Persons equipped with GMRS radios are often involved in emergency search and rescue, by the way that Garmin Rino is used a lot because of the GPS map.

  • @user-pn3th7gr1x

    @user-pn3th7gr1x

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes sir ran out of toilet paper while I was taking a shit radioed my wife to bring me toilet paper …..emergency averted

  • @drw1926

    @drw1926

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-pn3th7gr1x 😆😆

  • @LAGARTIJOcabezon

    @LAGARTIJOcabezon

    Жыл бұрын

    Chicken Band still reliable 🙃

  • @doingtimeforsixty9

    @doingtimeforsixty9

    Жыл бұрын

    living out of cell sevice and doing a lot of cross country mtb, we use these radios all the time just incase we crash

  • @poppasmurf63
    @poppasmurf63 Жыл бұрын

    Part of your comms problem is polarization. Close range not too bad but when your pushing the distance it can affect performance. Keep your antenna vertical when xmiting.

  • @DReynolds5294
    @DReynolds52943 жыл бұрын

    Alright. Just thought I should post this. When you guys took over this channel, I was very hesitant about watching the videos. However, after watching them now - I'm glad you guys picked up where Adam left off. You're doing a great job. Keep up the great work!

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Dale! Glad you’re liking the vids! -Rusty

  • @frankkodrack6762
    @frankkodrack67622 жыл бұрын

    I bought a pair of Motorola t800 to try and replace my Garmin. My rino is old and beat up. And I carry the phone anyway. keeping my hunting partners aware of my location was the most important feature for me. The Motorola app was not easy or quick to use and failed to work through 1/4 mile of flat wooded swamp. The Garmin started failing around 3 miles.

  • @thomasnappo6309
    @thomasnappo6309 Жыл бұрын

    This us what people want to see..a Real field Test..thx guys

  • @HarryHamsterChannel

    @HarryHamsterChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    In a real field! Talking off a mountain is like rolling a marble downhill and saying it rolls so far because it's a really good marble.

  • @JohnBorgJacob
    @JohnBorgJacob2 жыл бұрын

    Only video where you have tested with real world distance, awesome

  • @aquilafasciata5781

    @aquilafasciata5781

    Жыл бұрын

    I would argue that having two people on opposite mountains isn’t so real world. If they were in a neighborhood or a dense forest they would be lucky to get a signal at 2 miles.

  • @gopherstate777
    @gopherstate7772 жыл бұрын

    I like the Rusty & Chris tag team. Keep up the good work and keep this team together!

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's the plan! -Rusty

  • @RKingis
    @RKingis Жыл бұрын

    Good real world test. Most people hold their radios in such positions.

  • @BrianPhillipsRC
    @BrianPhillipsRC2 жыл бұрын

    @ 2:00 - Can I use the Bluetooth feature to just emulate the PTT feature and listen and talk on a motorcycle helmet with bluetooth?

  • @stihl888
    @stihl8882 жыл бұрын

    Awesome review guys, just what i was looking for!

  • @hansangb
    @hansangb2 жыл бұрын

    Was debating which one to get. I think it's clear. Motorola FTW

  • @williamb9060
    @williamb9060 Жыл бұрын

    I have the Midland GTX 1000 and the BTech GMRS. The nice thing about the BTech is you can change the antenna. I would like to see a comparison test against the BTech with a Nagoya antenna

  • @danielcate9409
    @danielcate9409 Жыл бұрын

    Just goes to show you Motorola solutions is the king when it comes to two way communication. I use there business radios and they have the best range capability I’ve seen in a 5 watt handheld.

  • @michaelmurphy7241
    @michaelmurphy724110 ай бұрын

    Thank you guys so much for this video i was on my way out the country and needed a good radio for entering another country bro thank you again GOD Bless

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    Be care using them in other countries, as you could end up interfering with businesses, or services like police, or fire.

  • @bulldogbrower6732
    @bulldogbrower67322 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, thank you, thank you ! Finally someone tested the Garmin against another radio. We have been telling Garmin for years that the antenna set up is not making it. I wish they would put a standard SMA connector on top and move the GPS antenna. Users could choose which after market antenna works best. Cobra has applied to the FCC to make a radio that sends the GPS burst with a transmission. I hope they are successful. I hope you guys get to test them. Radioddity, and Retevis are making some very nicely priced GMRS radios. I hope that they incorporate the GPS mapping in one of their future radios.

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    2 жыл бұрын

    Roger that. Glad you appreciated it! -Rusty

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    2 жыл бұрын

    FRS can't have removable antennas, so you would need a GMRS license.

  • @jayjones9051
    @jayjones90512 жыл бұрын

    I just bought the blue Motorola T800, haven’t tried the texting yet but glad those 2 guys tested it for me, gonna try a higher wattage to text

  • @Beth-El

    @Beth-El

    2 жыл бұрын

    How much were they when you brought them, now they are going for 89-100 dollars

  • @stfuplsok

    @stfuplsok

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Beth-El *bought

  • @tommydyo6606
    @tommydyo660610 ай бұрын

    Just wanted to say THANK YOU for this info!

  • @charlespalmerii4299
    @charlespalmerii4299 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for the video! question do you think the Motorloa can be paried to a Helmet intercom system such as a Uclear ?

  • @SDClassicCarCenter
    @SDClassicCarCenter2 жыл бұрын

    We bought the T801's and hoping to try them out in the mountains between our cabin and our friend's cabin. They are a mile away. In city the range was bad and did not communicate. 35 mile range is a bit overzealous.

  • @donalderickson-si8ww

    @donalderickson-si8ww

    3 ай бұрын

    I do that on G M R S all day long

  • @albertkc2007
    @albertkc2007 Жыл бұрын

    Keeping our Rino 110’s just for pinging each other’s locations within 1 mile of the hunt zone but getting this Motorola for the better coms range.

  • @carlubambi5541
    @carlubambi5541 Жыл бұрын

    Where can you get the t800 or t801 for $40 ?????

  • @davidoswald9275
    @davidoswald9275 Жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine and I did 6 miles from my home in Layton, Ut to Fernwood Park above Layton with texting. We're trying to incorporate the T800s in our area emcomm. It will happen as the people using them learn how to use them. With a cell phone connected via bluetooth to the T800, and connected to a hotspot and a Ubiquiti node via AREDN text from one app and be copied and pasted onto the other. AREDN is a ham radio service.

  • @captainconner4060
    @captainconner40603 жыл бұрын

    Anything with a fixed, non removable antenna will have extremely limited range. Also UHF is very poor for mountain and wooded terrain. VHF it's more suited for that. UHF is great for dealing with walls and city like areas.

  • @usarmyprepper
    @usarmyprepper2 жыл бұрын

    Been looking into the rockytalkies. Do you guys have any experience with those? Seem to have the best overall reviews for Emergencies and out in the woods.

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, @That 11b guy! Don’t have any experience with those. If they look good try ‘em out and let us know what you think. -Rusty

  • @pdub422
    @pdub422 Жыл бұрын

    Where did you get the T800's for $30 each?!?

  • @StormUSA
    @StormUSA2 жыл бұрын

    01:40 lmao... Good overall info thanks guys!

  • @shaunteckno
    @shaunteckno Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! I’m very interested in two way radios. Have you tried two way radios from Cobra? Again, great video!

  • @newscout
    @newscout2 жыл бұрын

    privacy code is like noise cancellation in headsets, right?

  • @Liam-ql7tr
    @Liam-ql7tr Жыл бұрын

    Nice to know…. Curious if the dedicated ham radio on walkie talkie frequency worked well at that distance

  • @aquilafasciata5781

    @aquilafasciata5781

    Жыл бұрын

    They work much better generally speaking. Look at Summits on the Air. That’s essentially what they are doing, and some people with HTs (handie talkies) have been able to hit people at 20+ miles. Ham radios can also attach WAY better antennas, so they could’ve used a directional antenna to improve things drastically

  • @jdog9025
    @jdog90252 жыл бұрын

    Did the Garmin show your locations on the map

  • @tiny11231
    @tiny112313 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I own 5 Garmin Rinos, for hiking groups. BTW your mics are picking up your thumps and bangs of the table your on. I’m guessing the mic arms are attached to the table. Keep up the great videos. 👍🏼

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it. Have you compared the Rinos to anything else or are you content with them? -Rusty

  • @tiny11231

    @tiny11231

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Equip2Endure I did not compare them with anything else. I love the rinos for all of the other features, track back, photo tagging, text messaging to other rinos it’s has so many features. I own the newer 755t models. I believe 16 miles was pushing it for both radios, but the Motorola really shined in the communication department.

  • @morganw02
    @morganw023 жыл бұрын

    Like the material, not a fan of the left/right audio channels though..

  • @jdog9025
    @jdog90252 жыл бұрын

    You guys said about trying to text on the Motorola @ .5watt and it didn't work, then ya said it may have worked on 2 watt. So if your going to do a review WHY would ya do it half assed? Why didn't ya try it on 2watt? Why didn't ya tell or show people if the Garmin showed your location on the map? And lastly why do ya hold the radio like a gangster? Hold the damn thing straight up & down

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those are crippled on purpose by Motorola. The T4xx series can do close to 2 watts with alkaline batteries.

  • @stfuplsok

    @stfuplsok

    Жыл бұрын

    J dog you're* going

  • @RKingis
    @RKingis2 жыл бұрын

    FRS, and GMRS share all 22 channels.

  • @thebugg333
    @thebugg333 Жыл бұрын

    Im sure that 2 radios with different tones key up, you will hear the other radio or conversation because all the tone does is break the squelch to all it to hear the frequency...think of it as a stop and go light...everyone can see it but only those who are supposed to go at that time and tone can...but you can crash into someone else already going. The other issue when testing is that on the left side, you are by a bunch of trees and the other one was all clear of them....then you kept changing the HT's from vertical to horizontal reducing the effectiveness of the radio as if you guys are using cell phones. If I had mountains in my area without trees I would buy a pair to show the difference when you have trees, and rotate your radios when transmitting and receiving.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    The stronger signal usually wins.

  • @eater9one
    @eater9one2 жыл бұрын

    moto t800 it is. im not going to be using it for that far distance so event better.

  • @generic53
    @generic533 жыл бұрын

    I would have liked to have seen a test in an URBAN setting.

  • @JoseGarcia-gm2wp

    @JoseGarcia-gm2wp

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @HUNtastic1

    @HUNtastic1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've seen another review. They made it to almost 0.5 miles. I'm not joking, I think it was 0.42 miles.

  • @fav6587
    @fav65872 жыл бұрын

    No licence required using ham radio in an emergency situation

  • @jplacido9999

    @jplacido9999

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. But if you don't have some training, you won't be able to use it, at least to radioamateurs (you have to pray that someone answers your calls). If you use ham radios on ham frequencies with your friends, you'll probably be jammed by someone not happy with that. Altough, if a ham notices that you are in trouble, he'll try to help you. It goes with the activity.

  • @Hapfletcher
    @Hapfletcher Жыл бұрын

    what about Bluetooth to ear buds or in my case I use Bluetooth hearing aids is there a unit that will connect to Non brand ear buds ??

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    With the app, for the Talkabouts,

  • @wilfredprins9718
    @wilfredprins9718 Жыл бұрын

    With the Motorola, will every mobile receive the txt if they have a way to specify the phone/person ?

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    All need the same capable models, and the app.

  • @joeschnell5695
    @joeschnell5695 Жыл бұрын

    Channels 8-14 (frs) will always be 1/2 watt and cannot be changed to a higher power level due to FCC regulations. On higher powered mobile radios, those same channels (8-14) will be receive only or non-exsistent.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    I think it's because the repeater inputs for GMRS are sandwiched in there.

  • @joeschnell5695

    @joeschnell5695

    22 күн бұрын

    @@RKingis channels 8-14 are close but not dead on. The gmrs repeater channels share same Simplex receive operation with channels 15-22 but when you transmit into a repeater, you’re transmitting exactly 5mhz higher than the receive frequency. And fyi channels 8-14 are narrow band while rest of channels are wide band. When you have a chance, look at the gmrs frequency chart and you’ll see.

  • @joeschnell5695

    @joeschnell5695

    22 күн бұрын

    @@RKingis channels 8-14 are close but not dead on. The gmrs repeater channels share same Simplex receive operation with channels 15-22 but when you transmit into a repeater, you’re transmitting exactly 5mhz higher than the receive frequency. And fyi channels 8-14 are narrow band while rest of channels are wide band. If you haven’t done so already, look at the gmrs frequency chart and you’ll see.

  • @BryanKirch
    @BryanKirch4 ай бұрын

    Yeah when shtf happens the fcc will be out enforcing radio usage so be careful out there

  • @shawntilton9170
    @shawntilton9170 Жыл бұрын

    Just get the Technican license from your local ham radio club. It's very easy. You just need to have basic knowledge of electronics, and remember the FCC guidelines and regulations. It gets harder, when you go for the General license. I paid $10 and easily got a 10 year license.

  • @noniespam
    @noniespam2 жыл бұрын

    Rusty do you copy? You should hold your radio with the antenna vertical while trying to receive signals.

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Rick! Lima Carlie. This video doesn’t show it but the radio was held in several orientations. None worked well. Understand that they are supposed to be held vertically.

  • @noniespam

    @noniespam

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Equip2Endure Good to know, thanks. I remember from my CB days vertical is a must.

  • @AngelGuzman-ij7pl
    @AngelGuzman-ij7pl2 жыл бұрын

    Did you say they were 30 dollars ?

  • @adrianengland4563
    @adrianengland4563 Жыл бұрын

    Any radio with a decent range requires a licence. The "basic" Amateur radio licence is easy to take and pass.

  • @davidtibbitts4009
    @davidtibbitts4009 Жыл бұрын

    Getting a lot of feedback from your phones. While you're talking on both. It's like when you phone a radio station and they tell listeners to turn down their volume of the radio.

  • @truesonic669
    @truesonic669 Жыл бұрын

    Game changer

  • @nycboxing8359
    @nycboxing83592 жыл бұрын

    Volume on you mics are off dude on the left is too loud or dude on the right is too low.

  • @dwain415
    @dwain415 Жыл бұрын

    I am curious, say you have a 5 watt radio, and it is required to have a license to use, why does it matter if it is in an emergency, disaster, etc and you really need help or report an emergency?

  • @chublez

    @chublez

    Жыл бұрын

    When they say emergency they don't mean ww3. They literally mean anything you'd call 911 for more or less and radio happens to be the only option available to you go ahead and use it. Generally if you're using the emergency clause in good faith you're not going to get in big trouble especially if the radio you have is pretty programed for appropriate HAM/GMRS stuff. Step on the military or other critical infustructure for anything short of life and death and you'll probably have a bad day. HAM tech is honestly easy to get if you're interested in preparedness coms, don't just assume you can't. Might even find a non emergency use format like texting you fam from the trail using aprs where your cell phone doesn't work to say yer running late but okay.

  • @rogersmith4926
    @rogersmith4926 Жыл бұрын

    maybe you should hold the Radio Antenna vertical and not horizontal, it makes a huge difference

  • @SINESTERSERPENTSIXXX
    @SINESTERSERPENTSIXXX Жыл бұрын

    if your looking for range go with wouxun 2meter with 10w power.

  • @rhyoliteaquacade
    @rhyoliteaquacade Жыл бұрын

    Consumer grade GMRS and FRS radios have an inherent weakness that is not apparent to the general public. The receivers, though very sensitive are not very well protected against signals well off channel. In an environment like where you were testing, there are other radio systems, most fairly high power in the UHF band, broadcasters in VHF and UHF bands. A Commercial radio like the police and fire services use, have additional filtering in the receiver, after the antenna, which block signals which are out of band. These undesired signals 'sap" the gain of the receiver and reduce the effective sensitivity. If tested in a lab, the radios will produce sensitivity and power output to suggest a 16 or 32 mile range, but in reality, it is a fraction. You might do this test again in a truly desolate location and have better results. However if you are line of sight with any radio or TV transmission towers, chances are the radios will again falter. I use surplus commercial public safety (police) radios which were designed for an urban environment (and cost many thousands of dollars new) and have had great results.

  • @johnroberts6695
    @johnroberts6695 Жыл бұрын

    Hmmm. You can use ham radios w/o a license. Not legally, but if you use them while camping or other outings, the FCC isn't going to do squat. If you're going to use a repeater, that's different. Repeater owners require users to be licensed or you can't play with their ball. I was going to get licensed myself, but no one's on the repeater in my area. I leave my radio on for hours and though it covers a wide area, no one is online.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    It is a self policing community.

  • @fotograf121
    @fotograf121 Жыл бұрын

    Content seams good. but using headphones and having audio jumping right and left over and over i sugest you rework that. You can have it a bit but now it is like ping pong

  • @5ChG
    @5ChG2 жыл бұрын

    What!!??? really? garmin so frkn overpriced....Very useful video GUYS!!

  • @Adamdaj
    @Adamdaj Жыл бұрын

    If I understand neither one of radios are repeater capable, right? That Garmin looks like a great tool to have, but in a real scenario, you're not going to get the range as advertised.

  • @ALAPINO
    @ALAPINO Жыл бұрын

    In my opinion, the take away from all of this is no matter what you have make sure you have a system, and make sure that system works for your needs when you need it. No point spending $100000 on Harris military comms gear if it doesn't fit your needs at all. As much as I sometimes malign Motorola at their consumer product level having FRS radios of any sort is far better than shouting or two cans on a string.

  • @thomasnappo6309

    @thomasnappo6309

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said...lol

  • @whiskeyriver4322
    @whiskeyriver43227 ай бұрын

    This vid is two years old. I wonder if anything has changed. I was considering a Rino 750t or 755t, but there aren't many reviews at all on either; and this vid is the only one that actually tests the radio. I think I'll just hold off until I can get more info. Six to eight hundred bucks is a lot of dough. I'm surprised there aren't more options out there with the GPS/Maps/Comms combo

  • @The_Infinite_Beatles
    @The_Infinite_BeatlesАй бұрын

    where can you find a Motorola T800 for USD 30?

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    Ebay perhaps.

  • @christopherwalsh7700
    @christopherwalsh77002 жыл бұрын

    A license isn’t required for amateur radio frequencies in an emergency.

  • @JeffLeites

    @JeffLeites

    Жыл бұрын

    I would say that depends on how an emergency is defined. Life and death, yes... a flat tire... no.

  • @christopherwalsh7700

    @christopherwalsh7700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffLeites are you licensed?

  • @JeffLeites

    @JeffLeites

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christopherwalsh7700 I got my first ham license (novice) at 13 in 1961. I haven't been active in a long time but got my extra class license a few years ago just to check if off my bucket list. I also got a GMRS license when the fee was reduced. I only use it in a car club for group rides. Mostly I use a pair of FRS radios for "where you at" calls to my wife when we go shopping. 😁

  • @mozerman88
    @mozerman885 ай бұрын

    Did Motorola stop making these, or is there an updated radio?

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    T802/T803 NOW.

  • @stevenjeffrey2270
    @stevenjeffrey2270 Жыл бұрын

    I’m curious..! In the event of a natural disaster Whis worried about a license??

  • @ashleywynn4923
    @ashleywynn49232 жыл бұрын

    70$ for the license and rumor they dropping it down to 35$, no test, it’s no different than a fishing licenses but good for 10yrs.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    2 жыл бұрын

    And your family members are covered under your license.

  • @rianboy9863
    @rianboy98639 ай бұрын

    for gmrs 16 miles is too far. it will work at 3 miles. I think with the distance you tried using Rino, it's good enough. because what we need is short-range radio communication, especially in the forest. too many barriers...

  • @Simpliant
    @Simpliant Жыл бұрын

    Did nobody figure out to put audio for both microphones center channel..... post production fail.

  • @SKYGUY1
    @SKYGUY1 Жыл бұрын

    The Garmin is TWO (2) watts on FMRS and 1/2 watt (that's point 5 - .5 - 5 tenths of a watt) on FRS, rather than FIVE watts according to the title overlay at 2:24 mins.

  • @bulldogbrower6732

    @bulldogbrower6732

    3 ай бұрын

    The Garmin Rino is a 5 watt radio on channels 1-7 and 15-22 if you select the 5 watt setting. All FRS and GMRS radios are limited to 1/2 watts on channels 8-14.

  • @VicGreenBitcoin
    @VicGreenBitcoin Жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video FRS/GMRS vs PMR radio?

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    Жыл бұрын

    PMR446 is ham radio in the US.

  • @VicGreenBitcoin

    @VicGreenBitcoin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RKingis what is your point? :-)

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VicGreenBitcoin Well, besides being in the ham band in the US, PMR446 radios are usually capped at half a watt, whereas FRS is 2watts & GMRS at 5-50watts, but both are capped at half a watt on 8-14.

  • @VicGreenBitcoin

    @VicGreenBitcoin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RKingis Yeah, lets put them face to face for a test! PMR vs FRS/GMRS

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@VicGreenBitcoin Looks like 446 in the US band plan, PMR446 would interfere with UHF repeater inputs. So, while interesting, might cause issues. Maybe cause a fox hunt.

  • @danielpoole1494
    @danielpoole1494 Жыл бұрын

    frs = two tin cans and string.... gmrs not much better unless you got a repeater with 9 db gain antenna 300 ft.high 50 watts with preamp in urban areas

  • @loganjackson767
    @loganjackson767 Жыл бұрын

    What's the longest range walkie-talkie?

  • @wallacegrommet9343

    @wallacegrommet9343

    Жыл бұрын

    Baofeng enters the chat

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    Жыл бұрын

    Zello PoC radios ;-)!!!

  • @spankedbywife1018
    @spankedbywife1018 Жыл бұрын

    yea those Garman radios suck bad man, They are the biggest scam going as radios go. I myself would buy a trunk load of the BOfangs and still have money left over and run them at max power on an FRS ch and not look back.

  • @hbryant1971
    @hbryant1971 Жыл бұрын

    I got lucky I guess, I extended my Amateur license for another 10 years with no fee.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    Жыл бұрын

    I keep my active just for emergencies, didn't get charged, but in about 8 years.

  • @kubectlgetpo
    @kubectlgetpo2 жыл бұрын

    Why would you call the licensing fee a "fine"? That's just bizarre. FCC literally regulates the airwaves so that it remains usable for everyone.

  • @Hornet135

    @Hornet135

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a preemptive fine, or a tax if you want. Whatever makes you feel good. It’s all a racket.

  • @chublez

    @chublez

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Hornet135 Words have definitions. You can use them correctly or sound like you.

  • @shawntilton9170

    @shawntilton9170

    Жыл бұрын

    I paid $10, took a very easy test, and got an FCC license for 2 highly used amateur radio frequencies. It's very easy to get the license. And it last 10 years.

  • @Hornet135

    @Hornet135

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chublez Your slave mentality is obscene.

  • @anthonybarker9123

    @anthonybarker9123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chublez If a test or qualifications are required, the word "licensing" reasonably applies. When it's simply a "pay to use" for something that is in fact already free to use (the gov. "regulating" it doesn't change the fact it already exists and is freely available), then the terms "fee" or "fine" ARE technically more correct.

  • @dirkpitt5468
    @dirkpitt5468 Жыл бұрын

    Perfect if you just happen to be on top of two mountains…… when was the last time this happened? How about testing real life scenarios. In town. Only works on mountain tops ….got it.

  • @jaredvanblankenstein7966
    @jaredvanblankenstein7966 Жыл бұрын

    I have a question, if there is a natural disaster, if the Cel Towers are down.... if the t*sh is hitting the fan.....will the FCC really be worried about who has a license? The reason I ask is that if I am planning for doomsday, I'd want the radio that gives me the best chance to reach someone or communicate with Family even nearby.... would I get a ticket or worse yet, thrown in jail, if I escape the zombies and nuclear (pronounced Nook-you-ler) Fallout, and still come out on top unscathed...will Uncle Sam really be waiting for me to bring me in for failing to have a license? All that being said, are there any of the unlicensed radios that I can use that go at least a mile or two even in the city?

  • @chublez

    @chublez

    Жыл бұрын

    GMRS is your best bet the license is cheap now and no test good for 10 years and the immediate family. The radios themselves will cost you more. As to what radios I suggest "notarubicon"s videos for tons of info but the newer wide band Midland micromobiles are the best easy to use reliable coms imho. Handheld probably a wuxon something. Really though I know you don't want to hear it but reliable coms take research,knowledge,and feild testing your gear before the emergency.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    The license becomes kind of you ID in an emergency. Ham's for decades have provided emergency communication, like on 9/11.😊

  • @Grond605
    @Grond6052 жыл бұрын

    For gmrs you need a licence? It’s like saying you need a licence to drive a car!!

  • @TheSoball358
    @TheSoball3582 жыл бұрын

    baofeng...sadly would have won the day

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    2 жыл бұрын

    For voice, yes, but none of them have a built in node for data.

  • @Soupcan35

    @Soupcan35

    Жыл бұрын

    The squelch on their radios is the worst. So much static you can't squelch it out.

  • @raymonday3854
    @raymonday3854 Жыл бұрын

    Do these allow you to listen to police and emergency talk ?

  • @2148aa

    @2148aa

    Жыл бұрын

    Look up P25 motorola radio. Almost all emergency services have gone digital and encrypted radios which means no. .New York had these fancy radios before 911 and they had trouble with them. The fire fighters had gone back to an older radio system and when 911 happened. Police couldn't talk to the older firefighters radios which depended on a repeater system that was on the world trade center and got knocked out. New York's dooms day communication bunker was next to the world trade complex and became worthless too.

  • @ernest9606
    @ernest9606Ай бұрын

    Ok. Cool. But if your phone is texting then why bother texting on radio ? But i do believe everyone needs a walkie for prepping. I baught 2 really good cobra walkies and i baught several cheap walkies to pass out to my neighborhood. If shtf and phones aren't working we can warn each other of any kind of threat. Or just to talk to each other if we get board lol😂

  • @vashonn
    @vashonn Жыл бұрын

    In a emergency situation no would care about a license

  • @joeglennaz
    @joeglennaz Жыл бұрын

    Guys, I just came across your channel by accident. I’m only about two minutes into the video and I can’t wait to watch the rest. I also can’t wait to watch the rest of your videos. But I gotta ask you one question why in the world do you have these two gigantic microphone sitting out in the middle of your shot? I get using those kind of Mike’s in a podcast or something or a radio show her you can’t see the people, but those are very distracting. Why wouldn’t you just have a nice Lavalier mic on and no one even notices? Anyway, I’m saying there’s a complete good faith and I’m not trying to be a jerk at all. It’s just they stick out and distract me so much. I’m sure there’s a reason, and if I understood the reason, then maybe I would understand. Anyway thanks again for your videos. I’m excited to watch all of your content. Have a great day

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked the video and welcome aboard! We used those mics because they seemed to have slightly better audio in studio than a quality lav mic. We're usually wearing lav mics when outside though. -Rusty

  • @jdog9025
    @jdog90252 жыл бұрын

    I wish you would of tried the Midland 50 Channel

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's only 22 channels, plus a mix of those 22 channels with codes baked in.

  • @stfuplsok

    @stfuplsok

    Жыл бұрын

    J dog would *have / would've tried

  • @reallauradee
    @reallauradee8 ай бұрын

    I'm probably not the first to say this, but during a natural disaster, or God forbid in some type of surprise attack that can happen anywhere on this planet these days, do you think anyone with a Baofeng will care if they have a license or not?

  • @kgb5351
    @kgb535110 ай бұрын

    Ha license! Im good

  • @fiku4444
    @fiku4444 Жыл бұрын

    to be honest who care about ham license when there is some emergency or disater

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    Жыл бұрын

    They've provided communication for emergencies for decades.

  • @n057828
    @n0578282 жыл бұрын

    Would of loved normal rechargeable would of been better ?

  • @stfuplsok

    @stfuplsok

    Жыл бұрын

    Would *have (would've) loved/ been

  • @GODWITHUS0712
    @GODWITHUS0712 Жыл бұрын

    Mortarola spanks Garmin

  • @Idahoprepper71
    @Idahoprepper713 жыл бұрын

    The fee for GMRS is now $35.

  • @Equip2Endure

    @Equip2Endure

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the heads up, @buckhorncamp! -Rusty

  • @morganw02

    @morganw02

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you confirmed this? As of 1 July it was still $70.

  • @Idahoprepper71

    @Idahoprepper71

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@morganw02 the FCC said as of April 19 it was going to $35. I heard it might take a while to reflect it in there web site but this is a little ridiculous.

  • @morganw02

    @morganw02

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Idahoprepper71 yeah they keep pushing it. Last I read it might actually be 2022 before it's finally implemented.

  • @Idahoprepper71

    @Idahoprepper71

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@morganw02 that wouldn’t surprise me, it is the federal government!

  • @shaneintegra
    @shaneintegra Жыл бұрын

    From my understanding is you can use a Ham radio without a license without getting in trouble if its in an emergency.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    If you don't train to use them, they won't serve you in an emergency.

  • @johngallati8164
    @johngallati81642 жыл бұрын

    ALWAYS TALK ON A ROOF

  • @jimlelan4906

    @jimlelan4906

    3 ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @johngallati8164

    @johngallati8164

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jimlelan4906 IT brings you closer to the LORD

  • @luish777
    @luish777 Жыл бұрын

    So much for 600 bucks

  • @OntarioBearHunter
    @OntarioBearHunter4 ай бұрын

    Never hear car or motorcycle guys yap about licences like radio dorks.

  • @oldestries
    @oldestries Жыл бұрын

    Off squelch

  • @cpbbg5bcbbg580
    @cpbbg5bcbbg5806 ай бұрын

    Excellent video and yes these values can change depending upon Where You Are for example test out of UBC when a friend that was driving to a mountain 52 km away well almost line of sight basically 30 MI and the signal went true a Uniden from Canadian Tire red and black this was transmitting between two watts and 500 MW the signal was there however because it was weak based on hypothesis I knew the signal will travel because it is literally almost the line of sight minus the curvature of the Earth I have an altitude from UBC at 300 ft and the altitude of my friend was 3,000 ft up on a mountain basically nothing blocking the signal from traveling through however monitor Button had to be put off basically eliminating the squash and just listening to the static the signal went true you would be surprised what you can do with these radios even I had another friend who was a electrical engineer and he had Motorola the same model in the city we can do about 5 MI and from SFU to downtown Vancouver roughly 10 MI the signal does go through so of course it all depends on your territory I also suspect that you could do more range you literally have to have pure line of sight Google map of course and eliminate all obstacles out of the way at the same time you can try to modify the antenna or you can add up a counterpoise to the negative side of your battery a wire of about 6 in half a wave will be about 12:35 right inches you may get more range however even speaking to someone with the same model they're not bad little radios definitely okay the Chinese make model you were showing definitely has more power however you would be surprised that even with 500 milliwatts that signal from that mountain to UBC traveled and made it true 30 MI of course these were specific and unique conditions thank you and 73

  • @nelugoia1599

    @nelugoia1599

    6 ай бұрын

    WOW! A wall of text without a comma or a period!!! Do you talk as you write? I bet you're running out of breath really soon

  • @riverking4u
    @riverking4u Жыл бұрын

    $70 for a license to something you will only use 2,3, or 4 times a year??!!! Government money grab!!!

  • @2148aa

    @2148aa

    Жыл бұрын

    It is down to $35 as of about 4 months ago. Less you use a gmrs repeater no one cares about the license.

  • @stfuplsok

    @stfuplsok

    Жыл бұрын

    $70 > that's for 10 years!

  • @rustyb78
    @rustyb78 Жыл бұрын

    Fix the audio! Left dude is on the left channel and right dude is on the right channel. Annoying.

  • @bigguy1403
    @bigguy1403 Жыл бұрын

    How does Motorola get away with this crap lying to consumers about range. People should boycott all these radios till they start being honest with us.

  • @KGB-FSB

    @KGB-FSB

    9 ай бұрын

    It's cuz despite the crap, ppl will continue to buy them.

  • @RKingis

    @RKingis

    22 күн бұрын

    Technically it's true, on a mountain.

  • @bigguy1403

    @bigguy1403

    22 күн бұрын

    @@RKingis but only the Waltons live on a mtn top.

  • @jenyates3033
    @jenyates3033 Жыл бұрын

    Stereo microphone edit... Nope!

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD Жыл бұрын

    The most secure communication in the world is two tin cans and a string.

  • @marcusmurphy3640
    @marcusmurphy3640 Жыл бұрын

    Listen lads just throw them all in the bin and buy yourselfs a couple of pigeons.