Watch this argument between Roman Catholic priests and Charismatic Members.
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@ng.kemzie7506Ай бұрын
There are things of the spirit which maybe a common practice to peoples of all cultural backgrounds. From this, I have understood that this practice seems a common one all over Africa especially in Nigeria. In my native state, the act of honouring our parents both living or dead is a must do. Give honour to whom honour is due." Nku di be ndi na esiri ha nrì".. .People forget that their parents are also ancestors and when they.pass to the great beyond they becomes ancestors too. In Igboland, the first son cannot be buried outside his father hometown. The carcase MUST be exhumed from any country or state to his family hometown. It has been in existence overtime, can church cancell it ? Of course no.they cannot. Give ceaser what is for him and to God what belongs to God. Good job 042Solex. Keep it up.
@princedon8324
Ай бұрын
Ndewo odogwu ❤❤❤❤
@IkeMba-q4lАй бұрын
I will like to participate on this matter to let the two parties understand more about it From Ikemba Nnobi
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
The reason why many people is confused about church and christianity today is because of too much of different different churches and christianity we have in the world today Because too much of things is always causing problem
@user-ob7bv7ov6zАй бұрын
Good debate! It is shocking Cardinal & his acolytes do not have convincing response even those who run to them for solution are seen as part of problems. 1. In things fall apart, Achebe presented the same issue using Unoka who went to deity to inquire cause of calamity in his life. Dibia told him that his father is angry that he Unoka did not kill cow for d burial. Unoka is seen as a poor man but he is most intelligent to tell d dibia to ask his dead father how many cows he had or industry during his life time. 2.Bishops made law for funeral to hold within 2months but this core part of ceremony is still there staying both poor & rich in face. Our generation do not keep such things till when u get money or u are now rich. No. Right from primary school ur parents indirectly remind u this. So that is why money ritual, kidnapping etc are increasing. I can give u practical examples. 3. Like Achebe pointed out yrs ago, every cow killed during most funeral are linked to ancestors. In spirit world, ancestors, evil altar, familiar/ contrary spirit, dibias, spiritualist, demons, satan & Lucifer work together in this order. Just as in Catholic church we have cathedral, parishes, out stations then families: Likewise Lucifer has the same organigram. Every town has shrine bigger parish, then village shrine, kindred shrine, family shrine, then personal altar. We call it evil altar bcos demons coordinate them but report back to Lucifer. Bcos Lucifer is wise but want souls of man for his kingdom of darkness he made gullible man to see his trap as custom or omenala. This territorial demons work tirelessly to keep south east in these customs. He even provided institutions like native doctors, herbalists etc for inquires. 4. Powers/ forces need these blood from man, goat, fowl, cow for perpetuation of satanic covenant. In some communities if you don't slaughter cow for d dead it has consequences bcos u want cut generational agreement to sell the soul of d person to kingdoms of darkness. So my beloved & respected clergy should know what their defence is all about. Satan is wise but God is wiser.
@innonneji9897
Ай бұрын
My dear if those things never comes to your position you will remain in this your opinion but when it happens to you aswear you will have no choice than to do it very perfectly
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Time is coming when I will start teaching people how to worship God
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
There is nothing like a Rev father or a pastor
@wisdom6775Ай бұрын
What is the difference between tradition and culture?
@dubemellit2932
Ай бұрын
Culture is a collective term used to identify ideas, customs and social behavior of a people….. Tradition is the belief that passed down from one generation to another….. Traditions are part of culture.
@PeterOdo
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Kelita.SonitaАй бұрын
Even Jesus followed the Jewish tradition. Passover he go .Cenus he did. Baptism he did
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
All this things everybody is doing everyday in the church is not how to worship God
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Remember that the spirit of God is already living in every human beings life
@iorpuuorshimathew6377
Ай бұрын
Capital lie
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Some people don't know how the spirit of God work
@user-kf5ph2dm7nАй бұрын
Rev answered collectly
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Even the Rev father's don't even know what the are worship on Sundays
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Because many people is confused about what the are worship
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
The reason why I said this is because of the discussion the are having with the Rev father's
@nonsochukwudozie1975Ай бұрын
Nothing concern church for killing cow for your father. But I don't know why some people so foolish by carry by traditional into church. People should understand that church is religion and traditional is community tribe. Every tribe have their way of doing their traditional thing
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Cows and goat have nothing to do in worshipping God
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Some people don't even know what the are worship on Sundays
@aniahmarvelous505
Ай бұрын
Oga oya teach them want there worshipping
@tinaokafor6211Ай бұрын
There is no time the Church tells somebody to kill Cow for his father, it is the Villagers and the tradition that makes people to do these things to please their people.
@basilnwokoro256Ай бұрын
As a Christian all those things does not matter anything, when someone dies whether you kill cow or not he or she does not know, is just people's believe and is cursing a lot of problems in some families because they do go and borrow money and after that they will be struggling to pay the money back, so for me the priest fail the answer, and is only in Igbo land all those things are still happening, In my conclusion killing a cow for someone who died for a longtime in the name of tradition is meaningless because that dead person can not do anything for the children or the family
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Even Jesus Christ is a teacher
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Is better I become a teacher like John than opening churches up and down
@tobyelue2141Ай бұрын
Where is the Bible in this matter, is Catholic following the Bible or the Igbo tradition.
@user-zi4gx4go8nАй бұрын
The Charismatic members are just too timid or let me say being over righteous but the Rev. Fathers are intelligent and more experienced.
@someonesmileafrica3184Ай бұрын
Culture Forever
@sabinusnwajebichi67Ай бұрын
All these hopeless Christmatic Efulefus asking stupid question because you want to defend foreign religion and it's doctrine.
@tinaokafor6211Ай бұрын
Father is right, evangelise your people and explain to them that it is not necessary.
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Some people will tell you that the reason why human beings is doing sacrifice is because of Abraham did in the bible So do you do other things Abraham did in the bible
@user-ob5mh8yi3rАй бұрын
More grace to sorex
@042solex
Ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Abraham did not wake up and decide to do that sacrifice for God
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
God told Abraham to do the sacrifice before Abraham accept to do it for God
@okanms1Ай бұрын
Some efulefus are trying to destroy our tradition
@veraduru5469Ай бұрын
Do you give God anything before God create any human beings
@user-jp4ke5fh8gАй бұрын
This is amateur debate......both sides are very gullible to debate on issues like that
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There are things of the spirit which maybe a common practice to peoples of all cultural backgrounds. From this, I have understood that this practice seems a common one all over Africa especially in Nigeria. In my native state, the act of honouring our parents both living or dead is a must do. Give honour to whom honour is due." Nku di be ndi na esiri ha nrì".. .People forget that their parents are also ancestors and when they.pass to the great beyond they becomes ancestors too. In Igboland, the first son cannot be buried outside his father hometown. The carcase MUST be exhumed from any country or state to his family hometown. It has been in existence overtime, can church cancell it ? Of course no.they cannot. Give ceaser what is for him and to God what belongs to God. Good job 042Solex. Keep it up.
@princedon8324
Ай бұрын
Ndewo odogwu ❤❤❤❤
I will like to participate on this matter to let the two parties understand more about it From Ikemba Nnobi
The reason why many people is confused about church and christianity today is because of too much of different different churches and christianity we have in the world today Because too much of things is always causing problem
Good debate! It is shocking Cardinal & his acolytes do not have convincing response even those who run to them for solution are seen as part of problems. 1. In things fall apart, Achebe presented the same issue using Unoka who went to deity to inquire cause of calamity in his life. Dibia told him that his father is angry that he Unoka did not kill cow for d burial. Unoka is seen as a poor man but he is most intelligent to tell d dibia to ask his dead father how many cows he had or industry during his life time. 2.Bishops made law for funeral to hold within 2months but this core part of ceremony is still there staying both poor & rich in face. Our generation do not keep such things till when u get money or u are now rich. No. Right from primary school ur parents indirectly remind u this. So that is why money ritual, kidnapping etc are increasing. I can give u practical examples. 3. Like Achebe pointed out yrs ago, every cow killed during most funeral are linked to ancestors. In spirit world, ancestors, evil altar, familiar/ contrary spirit, dibias, spiritualist, demons, satan & Lucifer work together in this order. Just as in Catholic church we have cathedral, parishes, out stations then families: Likewise Lucifer has the same organigram. Every town has shrine bigger parish, then village shrine, kindred shrine, family shrine, then personal altar. We call it evil altar bcos demons coordinate them but report back to Lucifer. Bcos Lucifer is wise but want souls of man for his kingdom of darkness he made gullible man to see his trap as custom or omenala. This territorial demons work tirelessly to keep south east in these customs. He even provided institutions like native doctors, herbalists etc for inquires. 4. Powers/ forces need these blood from man, goat, fowl, cow for perpetuation of satanic covenant. In some communities if you don't slaughter cow for d dead it has consequences bcos u want cut generational agreement to sell the soul of d person to kingdoms of darkness. So my beloved & respected clergy should know what their defence is all about. Satan is wise but God is wiser.
@innonneji9897
Ай бұрын
My dear if those things never comes to your position you will remain in this your opinion but when it happens to you aswear you will have no choice than to do it very perfectly
Time is coming when I will start teaching people how to worship God
There is nothing like a Rev father or a pastor
What is the difference between tradition and culture?
@dubemellit2932
Ай бұрын
Culture is a collective term used to identify ideas, customs and social behavior of a people….. Tradition is the belief that passed down from one generation to another….. Traditions are part of culture.
@PeterOdo
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
Even Jesus followed the Jewish tradition. Passover he go .Cenus he did. Baptism he did
All this things everybody is doing everyday in the church is not how to worship God
Remember that the spirit of God is already living in every human beings life
@iorpuuorshimathew6377
Ай бұрын
Capital lie
Some people don't know how the spirit of God work
Rev answered collectly
Even the Rev father's don't even know what the are worship on Sundays
Because many people is confused about what the are worship
The reason why I said this is because of the discussion the are having with the Rev father's
Nothing concern church for killing cow for your father. But I don't know why some people so foolish by carry by traditional into church. People should understand that church is religion and traditional is community tribe. Every tribe have their way of doing their traditional thing
Cows and goat have nothing to do in worshipping God
Some people don't even know what the are worship on Sundays
@aniahmarvelous505
Ай бұрын
Oga oya teach them want there worshipping
There is no time the Church tells somebody to kill Cow for his father, it is the Villagers and the tradition that makes people to do these things to please their people.
As a Christian all those things does not matter anything, when someone dies whether you kill cow or not he or she does not know, is just people's believe and is cursing a lot of problems in some families because they do go and borrow money and after that they will be struggling to pay the money back, so for me the priest fail the answer, and is only in Igbo land all those things are still happening, In my conclusion killing a cow for someone who died for a longtime in the name of tradition is meaningless because that dead person can not do anything for the children or the family
Even Jesus Christ is a teacher
Is better I become a teacher like John than opening churches up and down
Where is the Bible in this matter, is Catholic following the Bible or the Igbo tradition.
The Charismatic members are just too timid or let me say being over righteous but the Rev. Fathers are intelligent and more experienced.
Culture Forever
All these hopeless Christmatic Efulefus asking stupid question because you want to defend foreign religion and it's doctrine.
Father is right, evangelise your people and explain to them that it is not necessary.
Some people will tell you that the reason why human beings is doing sacrifice is because of Abraham did in the bible So do you do other things Abraham did in the bible
More grace to sorex
@042solex
Ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
Abraham did not wake up and decide to do that sacrifice for God
God told Abraham to do the sacrifice before Abraham accept to do it for God
Some efulefus are trying to destroy our tradition
Do you give God anything before God create any human beings
This is amateur debate......both sides are very gullible to debate on issues like that
I my brother pollarp
Jesus christ is not a Rev father
Go and read the 10 commandment of God
You people in Igbo people an is mad people