Ironic how he says he loves animals; yet it came out in trial he loves torturing them 🤔

@chandra2911

Жыл бұрын

He just didn’t mention he loves animals just to torture them😕he’s a lot smarter than is made out to be and as I said before this proves it. This nasty little Sh new exactly what he was doing on Valentine’s Day 2018😟

@tommybrown9534

Жыл бұрын

Yea I was thinking the same thing

@kb9847

Жыл бұрын

ya I was a little annoyed that he was reading about the animal and how it hunts and kills.

@rrksk

Жыл бұрын

More animals than frogs? The frogs were bc his dog ate one and died

@christinabrandi3126

Жыл бұрын

@@rrksk he admitted to killing 12 cats

I can’t believe this is still going on.

@jennifervirgel9183

Жыл бұрын

I was coming here to say the exact same thing. Blows my mind.

@franciscotoscano9924

Жыл бұрын

There’s are few more trials of mass shooters coming up

@imarielmermaid

Жыл бұрын

welcome to our "justice" system

@Jman417

Жыл бұрын

It is trying to get the jury to render a life sentence verdict when he deserves a death sentence verdict.

@yeahseven

Жыл бұрын

People still deserve due process whether you think so or not.

It’s beyond me how those family members are able to sit through these trials and have to constantly hear, see, and learn about this monster. I wouldn’t be able to be in the same room with him. It really speaks to how strong they are

@lucy2014

Жыл бұрын

It does take a lot of strength to sit there and learn exactly what happened that day when that monster opened fire. I know the families have a choice whether or not they want to be in the courtroom buy I think I would have to be there. I would want to hear every little detail of what happened that horrific day. That's just me. But those families who choose not to be there, I don't fault them at all. I guess you never really know what you'd do unless you were in that situation. My heart ❤️ hurts for all of them.

@left4david299

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion, they want answers. They want to know why their children didn’t return home that day at it’s core. They want justice and probably at the end of it, some kind of closure, even though the death penalty may not be enough

@lynngold1865

Жыл бұрын

fruitferret-Joaquin's dad said in an interview that he could not be there.That he wouldn't be able to control himself. The Wangs weren't there much either.havent heard their reason.

@trapmafia4716

Жыл бұрын

ooh no!, sad psycho frown face is back! (grey haired guy)

@126missday

Жыл бұрын

Their doing it for their loved ones.

Imagine committing a mass murder and still breathing four years later

@boomds5602

Жыл бұрын

The Boston bomber is still alive 10 years later and many others

@Face_Reality

Жыл бұрын

vvhite privilege.......

@Vvision456

Жыл бұрын

@@boomds5602 smh

@aliwooz913

Жыл бұрын

that's because our justice system is a joke.

@elizabethcronsell9301

Жыл бұрын

Right we were talking about this today. F****D

I love how the family members are beginning to smile because his Insanity Defense went down in a ball of flames today. Probably the first time in a long time they've had anything to smile about, bless their hearts.

@michaellovely6601

Жыл бұрын

From what I have read; Nikolas Cruz had initially pleaded Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity to avoid being sentenced to death, but he ultimately changed his plea to Guilty after what I presume was Cruz's realization that pleading Guilty would spare the families of the victims as well as the survivors and their families the pain of watching him stand trial. I also strongly believe that while he has a very long history of mental health issues; I don't think that Cruz was insane at the time of his crime due to his social media posts indicating that he was fully aware that his actions were wrong but he didn't care about the consequences.

@SammyNeedsAnAlibi

Жыл бұрын

@@michaellovely6601 totally agree with you. When I heard him describe what each and every Chess Piece can be moved, it sealed it for me- he knew EXACTLY what he was doing.

@wEstEgg8899

Жыл бұрын

He didn't plead insanity. He plead guilty.

@melissaosborne3437

Жыл бұрын

Prayers to the Families

@michaellovely6601

Жыл бұрын

@@wEstEgg8899 Nikolas Cruz had initially pleaded Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity; but ultimately he changed his plea to Guilty.

Well I'm glad he came across so intelligent. He sealed his fate as someone sane, knowing exactly what he did.

@PJL7095

Жыл бұрын

Yup… pretty much sitting there hanging himself not realizing it

@deengew

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen his handwriting or heard him in the interrogation? Dude is very dim and childlike. I wouldn't be surprised if he has learning disablities.

@SF-op5ix

Жыл бұрын

@@deengew he does

@benbunyip

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Shows he ended 17 lives, ruined many other lives, including himself.

@benbunyip

Жыл бұрын

@@deengew I think one problem is we have a one size fits all education system.

I don't care what he had growing up you don't go out and kill people!!!

@HusseinDoha

Жыл бұрын

He had it good.

@judyjetson2706

Жыл бұрын

Of course

@alexandradaniele

Жыл бұрын

Plenty of people have far worse childhoods and manage to get through life without killing anyone. This kid is a sociopath.

@jamesford2160

Жыл бұрын

💯

@MrJimmy-fl2bn

Жыл бұрын

@Shelly Sayers 😂 no

It is becoming clear he intelligently chose error and evil.

@Slungmaters

Жыл бұрын

Abundantly.

@olgatrilogymartin3143

Жыл бұрын

Pure heartless evil !

Listening to this kid say how horrible Putin is for killing 10 civilians in a missile strike during war… knowing that this kid has done waaayyy worse…. Is beyond disgusting.

@elainew2230

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same. He's upset that Putin had 10 people killed..... dude, you killed 19 people ??? It just doesn't compute somehow.

This guy’s playing insane when he reads better aloud than my classmates

@salmonflavored

Жыл бұрын

Insanity is not the same as being illiterate or stupid. I don't think he's insane, but just saying.

@vashmatrix5769

Жыл бұрын

It's actually more likely with high intelligence. Salmonflavored is right though. This should be expected given his upbringing, school bullies, & the societal decay of moral values, especially in schools.

@vashmatrix5769

Жыл бұрын

@BuildGUY they also can't read our constitution nor were they ever taught what it says.

@kotoko2517

Жыл бұрын

He’s extremely smart and that’s what’s makes it scary. He reads everything and remembers almost everything he reads. In my opinion he’s just a really wicked, disturbed kid. I don’t see his regret as a watch the interview but our justice system requires everyone to be heard even when he in fact kills the president.

He tries to act like a “good little boy” SO BADLY. Notice how he asks irrelevant questions to come off as sincere. It’s a tactic used to make you feel like he’s trying to cooperate when really it’s asking you to lower your guard so he can lie easier.

@MissSpaz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but he's so bad at it that it's comical.

@olgatrilogymartin3143

Жыл бұрын

Yep master manipulator

I like this guy. He breaks it down without being condescending. Explains his reasons for his observations and I appreciate that in legal cases where folk don’t always understand medical terms etc.

I don't think the defense team are happy with what we just saw. He now clearly proved he speaks well, read books and have a good memory. He is like two persons. One side is a well spoken nerd and the other side is angry and explosive.

@wendymarie7151

Жыл бұрын

Jeckyl and Hyde

@Unknownburger

Жыл бұрын

Defense *

@slaphappybullet

Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure they are that impacted by it. They are public defenders who had no choice in being his representation. They actually tried to get a judge to overturn the decision to make him pay for his own lawyers. But his inheritance from his mom is being contested in court so he doesn’t actually have any money to his name. So the judge overruled it and here we are. They are doing a great service by giving it their all in defending him because they are pretty much guaranteeing he can’t come back and say they failed as lawyers. This prevents putting the victims through another trial. And in every single trial, lawyers call for mistrials. If they did not motion for one, it would be suspect that they were not truly trying to defend him. So it was very stupid of the judge to say their motion for mistrial was stupid when she should have understood they *knew* it wouldn’t actually happen, it never actually does result in anything unless something wild happens, they were just doing it to have on record they did everything they could.

@aloeveraa1

Жыл бұрын

I don't live in the states but can anyone tell me. If a person has personality disorders and commits murder, are they usually sentenced to death?

@meredithallen4647

Жыл бұрын

@@aloeveraa1 it’s a toss up, depends on if a single juror is moved in their empathy towards his circumstances to vote no to the death penalty

I went to school with him graduated from stoneman Douglas in 2016 and sadly I do remember him walking around and sometimes I would see him get bullied and laughed at for running to class and for lunch for example or for acting weird occasionally. There is no excuse at all for what he did but every once in a while occasionally I wonder if he had not been bullied and laughed at so much for being “weird” then he wouldn’t of committed these acts. Of course thousands of kids are bullied every day and they don’t go shooting up schools. But that thought “what if” crosses the back of my mind now and then. RIP 17 ❤

@anonymous6694

Жыл бұрын

but did he shoot his bullies? or were they fine and he killed innocents indiscriminantly?

@deb6415

Жыл бұрын

So glad you are ok and weren't there Feb 14, 2018. I cant stand bullies. I used to work in elementary schools as an aide. Id often hangout with the kids who didnt have many friends and try to pair them up with other nice kids. It starts in elementary school and gets worse be middle school & high school. I dont understand why teens think its ok to single other students & people out to bully & make their loves miserable. Why? Because they are different, look different? What makes a bully type teenager think he or she is any better than someone else? I wish every teacher and school administrators would talk about bullying at least once a week in their classes. And, if they need to keep a student in for lunch or try to help he or she make friends. Although, teachers already have alot on their plates as is. I worry daily abt my grandbabies in high school. I ask them from time to time if they are bullied. 😢 Im sure NC would have had a better life with the right type of help, self esteem, and had come into the world a different way. And the victims, the parents, spouses, loved ones and injured victims.. I wish this had never happened to them. So innocent, so tragic. Did you ever see NC with any friends? He wrote or spoke often about feeling so alone & isolated. That seems to be a common denominator for school shootings & other mass shootings. Also, not having a father role model around while growing up. Lack of understanding of his mental issues, and feeling all alone, bullied. No one to truly talk to. As if to say, " I"ll show you all that I do exist" Did you happen to know any of the victims, teachers or families? Ive written to Alex parents. Alex dad has worked very hard trying to bring awareness to schools in alot of areas when it comes to safety and bullying. All in the name of his 14yr old son, Alex who was sitting at his desk when killed. Max is his father. 😢

@anonymous6694

Жыл бұрын

@@deb6415 lol deb I remember teachers trying to pair losers with me. It hits hard. What you're saying to the other kids is you think they're equal losers too. It cuts real deep especially coming from a teacher.

@samie7025

Жыл бұрын

He was like this long before. I was SA’d by other students then bullied for telling them no. I never once had these torrid thoughts or thought of acting this way towards them… I always feared of ending up evil abled s4dists like them. Ppl who ASP do not always k ill. Why was he running for lunch? Why can’t ppl find him funny if he acted said way? We’re more responsible for our actions than we think. Free will is important for us to remember. He could’ve done anything, but he did this unfortunately.

@linedancer23

Жыл бұрын

Your making excuses for him! He is a murderer. End of story.

In watching NC during this penalty phase, IMO, he enjoys the attention. He has definitely become close to the person to his right. How the family members are able to see his reactions and listen to the tapes is a testament to their strength. These families have lived through the loss of those who were murdered. Unfortunately, some families may not be able to remain intact. Every day, a family member, a friend, a mentor is no longer there. Let us not forget those who survived.

@choclatgal1

Жыл бұрын

Those killings didn't have to happen, if he would have been locked in a psych ward, givin all the social services, medicine (correctly) materials of reading to turn away his demons. Look how his progression after four years of isolation, structure and treatment. Parents failed, educators failed, doctors failed.

@margarmargar1871

Жыл бұрын

Seems like he wants to impress the Dr performing the exam.

@choclatgal1

Жыл бұрын

@@margarmargar1871 yes he craves attention, first time anyone's seem to care

@margarmargar1871

Жыл бұрын

@@choclatgal1 agree. Shame it had to come to this

@choclatgal1

Жыл бұрын

@@margarmargar1871 sad 😔

Interesting how you can shine when someone takes an interest in you and how you can fall when you think no one cares about you.

@HusseinDoha

Жыл бұрын

Nonsense!!! .... He wanted to be famous

@danamclemore3805

Жыл бұрын

Don’t get me started. Oh yes. Yes. You nailed it. I’m not specifically talking about Nick really. Talking about myself.

@Jeremy_the_bot

Жыл бұрын

Yes. As long as there is someone to ask him questions and make him feel important forever then he will be kind and not destroy people's lives.

@MigthyDucksz24

Жыл бұрын

Which applies to all of us, lol. Not only serial killers with anti-social personality disorder lol.

@tommybrown9534

Жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure that applies to many people. Although when those people "fall", were talking depression, insecurities, lack of self confidence, loneliness.. THIS piece of sh*t murdered innocent people

Watching now after the verdict. No wonder the parents are so angry!!! This "person" understands completely what he did. I see him sitting there in the jury room with no emotion, no regret as the parents speak. He reminds me of Dahmer. Disgusting. Many of us have also suffered physically and mentally in childhood -- that is no excuse for what he did and "what" he is.

The child who is not embraced by the village, will burn it down to feel its warmth

Every time I see a frame of Alex‘a father it just brings tears to my eyes

If dude had applied himself to English class as much as he applied himself to learning his way around a gun dude could be finishing up a philosophy degree by now. Choices dude, choices.

Listening to him makes me sick,God bless the families,give them strength.

@Jman417

Жыл бұрын

It makes me sick too.

@lesleypetersen805

Жыл бұрын

He's full of himself. Attention seeker. He's a narcissist.

@hudan0009

Жыл бұрын

@@lesleypetersen805 stfu kid u think he's doing this for attention and for fun only? you've been living life easy.

@hudan0009

Жыл бұрын

May God make Nik's life easier

@tylerharris4392

Жыл бұрын

Where was God when 17 people got popped like cherries

"Napoleon's ex-wife". Bro that recall is crazy.

Cruz actually had a better explanation of the psych study than the doctor. The doctor was mixing two different famous studies together. Nevertheless the point was made

@hernandezcordovajanice6140

Жыл бұрын

But still inconclusive to explain Multiple personalities.

@rza1000

Жыл бұрын

@olaf weeseburger Milgram and Standford. I was like, wait that doesn’t sound right.

@jeffreypenis736

Жыл бұрын

he's confusing it with the milgram experiment, though cruz seemed to think the stanford prison experiment switched the places of actual prisoners and guards

This should be over and done with!

@ClairMarie74

Жыл бұрын

So many killed, so many injured. So many witnesses. Not a case you can just get over and done with in a week etc.

@benbunyip

Жыл бұрын

Gotta go through this bit by bit, or generally speaking you end up hanging innocent people.

@liveandletlive9333

Жыл бұрын

Your opinion. Not the law

@Face_Reality

Жыл бұрын

So throw away rights just to feel better? That makes a lot of sense..... Smh

@lorettajames990

Жыл бұрын

For Real

Not all individuals with autism fail to make eye contact or express with hands. That is a risky assessment to express as an almost blanket statement. And there can be extreme intelligence and recall - especially with high functioning autism - to the point of genius. Yet socially inept & functioning at a lower cognitive age vs chronological age.

@cathykrueger4899

Жыл бұрын

I think his mother latched on to the autistic thing as a way of making excuses for him. This guy is not the first to say he’s not autistic. Just listening to him, Autism would not come to mind.

@SF-op5ix

Жыл бұрын

@@Didyoupray bro what? Im autistic and I was not “emotionally behaviorally disturbed.” Behaving in disturbing ways is NOT a criteria to identify an autistic person. We’re not scary lmao

@SF-op5ix

Жыл бұрын

YES! There’s a lot of diversity within the autistic community. Not everyone will meet the same criteria. I personally struggle with eye contact but use lots of hand movements. Unfortunately, I have a very average intelligence and have other learning disabilities…super fun 😂

@giancarlocarattini4985

Жыл бұрын

I thought this guy ruled out autism rather absolutely...

@shesomadeline

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!!! This guy is a fake and completely reckless with his “knowledge” of autistics to the point he had to say “i have worked in many autistic clinics” as a “backup proof” ...he is the most uneducated spokesperson for autistics! God i hate people like this!!! They are highly manipulative!

The people pleasing statement he made to the psychiatrist "swastika is a symbol of peace " He knew what it meant on his killing spree that should seal his fate

@asdfghjk2933

Жыл бұрын

Right? Imagine drawing a hindu symbol of peace on a damn AR-15 magazine of all things. Makes no sense.

@emilinebelle7811

Жыл бұрын

Swastika is a symbol of peace but I don’t think he was using it like that.

@tridentzeross9005

Жыл бұрын

Idgeit

@Face_Reality

Жыл бұрын

Maybe originally at one point, it was a symbol of peace, but it hasn't been a symbol of peace for a long time and that's what matters. The connotation of that symbol changed a long time ago...

@PiyushSharma-gi6vi

Жыл бұрын

@@Face_Reality maybe for west it did, for India, we still consider it a symbol of peace and decorate places with it on diwali festival. Just fyi.

This psychiatrist did a great job interviewing him and looked at all his records since childhood and explained everything in simple ways that proved this evil entity is not that he felt through the cracks throughout his life; he got a lot of help and to me his problem or issue is discipline or authority and they’re bullies, try to get attention and he wants to be in control of others.

When someone commits a heinous crime where they are so obviously guilty, justice should come swiftly

@chazzer4759

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree with you, his sister who had Brenda in her life and Grandmother - testified her lifestyle was terribly wrong- making her Nana strip to nothing but her shoes because she wanted to use her daughter as a partner in crime- drugs alcohol prostitution fraud and at such a young age to groom her into a life of despair addiction death. We can live in a house grand property or a house of horrors. Sadly this girl lived in hell. Yes Nana was gay Brenda Gay possibly The sister.

He should not be killed. Life in jail is fair punishment

This proves , once more … he knew exactly what he was doing and the consequences of his evil acts

@vashmatrix5769

Жыл бұрын

But not an understanding of anything more than subjective morality. I expect this of many if put in his environment.

@elsyaguilar782

Жыл бұрын

@@vashmatrix5769 “But” …favorite word to excuse a criminal.

@vashmatrix5769

Жыл бұрын

@@elsyaguilar782 I was using it to add to your open sentence. Definitely not excusing what he did.

@elsyaguilar782

Жыл бұрын

@@vashmatrix5769 😞for a minute, I thought you were. Sorry. Have a good day.

@kotoko2517

Жыл бұрын

@Elsy Exactly. The Puttin part scared me the most. He’s also so intrigued by weapons, death, killing, war and such a young age. He should have just gone to the military and help us out. But all the same, will see how this plays out.

@ElizaGrogan Thank you for sharing your story about overcoming being bullied and not only surviving, but thriving. These conversations are paramount to bring awareness to this problem. I pray that the more people that understand this can use this tragedy to recognize potential at risk school systems to hopefully prevent this from devasting so many lives in the future.

I can't imagine having lost my little baby child, and then watch the murderer sit in a room and chuckle about his favorite animals. My brain can't fathom that whatsoever.

You are an amazing witness, thank you.

Why does it take 25 days of sentencing 🤔🤔🤔🤔

@johnhmielewski1230

Жыл бұрын

AS the song goes...MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY , MOOONNEEEYYY!!!!!

@Kittyxoxo

Жыл бұрын

remember how long the Johnny depp and amber turd trial went on for ages? lol

@hernandezcordovajanice6140

Жыл бұрын

Constitutional wrights every legal american have. Fair Trial.

@ricksandoval7130

Жыл бұрын

To prevent appeals. Any mistakes lead to new trials and more money and attention. Measure twice cut once

@abby4027

Жыл бұрын

It’s a death penalty case so they have to be thorough and show that they are trying to conduct the trial in the upmost professional way.

Knowing right from wrong, and not being insane does not mean a person does not have other psychiatric issues.

@sallycinnamon5370

Жыл бұрын

But unless your psychiatric issues means that you were incapable of understanding that what you were doing was wrong…psychiatric issues don’t shield you from the death penalty. Pretty much every serial killer or mass murder has some amount of psychological issues. Well adjusted, high functioning people rarely, if ever, commit 1st degree murder.

@jenjen-127

Жыл бұрын

@@sallycinnamon5370 also important to note that people can just be bad and do these things. not everyone is good. it's hard to accept that someone, a human, can do something so horrifying without some sort of extreme psychological issue, but the truth is some humans suck.

@Ashley__Rose

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Captain Obvious

@vice2versa

Жыл бұрын

@@jenjen-127 normal people bully and judge people all the time. A lot of people are NOT innocent.

@uggggggghhhhh

11 ай бұрын

Indeed. The majority of people in prison or jail are struggling with mental illness but no help - or very little, non routine help - is given because they're not legally insane. Yet we expect them to go back into society as motivated functioning members when they were just treated like cattle and forced to be in a building with other severely mentally ill and violent people or gang members.

The psychiatrist totally botched the study when explaining it interestingly enough. He combined two different studies.

@blach3352

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought, too!

@blach3352

Жыл бұрын

Milgram experiment vs. Stanford prison experiment

@jeremysmith9694

Жыл бұрын

@@blach3352 yes. Thank you.

@climaxfilms7886

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@workingonmyroar7944

Жыл бұрын

Omg really???

End this, already! This isn't justice, it's theater of the absurd.

@jeanettesmith765

Жыл бұрын

The law allows all of this in death penalty cases.

@Therapistmind

Жыл бұрын

@@jeanettesmith765 you mean the law allows a ridiculous circus to go on!

@io7664

Жыл бұрын

@@Therapistmind duhh it’s called milking the clock

@Face_Reality

Жыл бұрын

@@io7664 no it's called vvhite privilege because the dp would've been slapped on him quick otherwise...

@Melinamiu007

Жыл бұрын

@@Therapistmind it’s called due process, otherwise we would return to hanging people at the stake and burning « witches »

The way killers idealized other killers..

@flyingchimp12

Жыл бұрын

Idolized

I can't believe the amount of money wasted by the Americans on this trial. Makes absolutely no sense.

The tone of Cruz's responses indicate he is completely oblivious as to where he is and why he is there.

@benbunyip

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, escape in the activity before him.

Pausing around the 15:33 mark…. My son was misdiagnosed for 14 years. He was diagnosed with all sorts of other things- until last year when he was given the autism diagnosis. He always makes eye contact until his bubble bursts. Some autistic people can communicate- when my son has a meltdown- the first thing out the window is communication and all he does is scream curse words in your face. That was a very misguided/misspoken statement. Now- with that being said…. Was NC did is so beyond disturbing- I do believe he lied and tried to manipulate and use behavioral health reasons as his excuse. There is no excuse. Autism, FAS, trauma…. Nothing causes you to murder 17 and injure 17 more other than your own demonic choices. Quit misspeaking about actual facts- your going to harm the autistic/fas communities- 😢🤬. Prayers for the victims and families. May the jury be guided to do what’s right. ❤

This interview shows how different his life could have been had someone actually been engaged with him and put effort towards helping him in a sincere way. He wants love and acceptance so badly. I think his life would have been very different with the right intervention.

@aliwooz913

Жыл бұрын

don't think so. there is no helping these people. they can snap at any moment

@deb6415

Жыл бұрын

Agree with Grumps & Giggles. Mental illness needs more awareness than anything. I think the experts can study Nikolas Cruz brain , thoughts, and as he ages, hopefully know why ppl like this snap or plan to do what they do. Im betting NC is more intelligent now than when he did the horrific crime. Doesnt excuse what he did. I feel so badly for the parents and loved ones of all 34 victims.

@mashawnoshkeshequoam6319

Жыл бұрын

People tried.

@samie7025

Жыл бұрын

There were more chances given to him than most. He’s responsible for this act alone. This act that changed everyone’s lives around him and his own. He thought this out before he did this… The fact that he thought about this at all… You stare into the abyss too long, it’ll stare back at you.

@cathykrueger4899

Жыл бұрын

That’s pretty naive. One of the witnesses tried that and talked about it at length. A child who puts a gun to his mother’s head and threatens to kill her needs to be put in a place where he can’t hurt anybody.

We need to see what pushes these people and also look at how bullish effects people

Oh my Gawd... Nicholas got the details of the study correct and the Doctor conflated details of 2 completely different studies!! (Stanford and Milgram) He incorrectly quoted the process and the details of the outcome! Psych-101 Crazy-Embarrassing 😳

@user-vb4nr5bc6e

Жыл бұрын

He might’ve did it on purpose to prove a point

@jenjencannon3224

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vb4nr5bc6e LOL

@samuelbarbosa1170

Жыл бұрын

But the studies showed the same thing.....

@jenjencannon3224

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelbarbosa1170 not at all

Lovely reading material they gave him 😅 hearing him say “cutting off their air supply” was probably not the best, but ok

I feel like professionals are the only people in his life. Very sad.

@shesomadeline

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sad.

@meganruddock7574

Жыл бұрын

I know. My son is perpetually ignored at school and bullied at times. He's 10. I'm so scared that he will begin feeling invisible, depressed and resent people for not caring. That can easily turn badly. I have tremendous sympathy for both kids like him and the victims.

@divinetiming8422

Жыл бұрын

@@meganruddock7574 Put a stop to it and save your child. Move if you have to.

@nickpavia9021

Жыл бұрын

@@meganruddock7574 Get your child to a new school if necessary. Help find him good male role models to take an interest in him if he doesn't have them. If he is only 10, there is still time to turn things around.

@meganruddock7574

Жыл бұрын

@@nickpavia9021 thx!

I’d like to imagine these families cheering the day the verdict says he’s getting the death penalty.

@catholicfamily6719

Жыл бұрын

Weird flex but ok

@flyingchimp12

Жыл бұрын

I feel they’ll be let down no matter which way it goes. It won’t make them whole sadly. No one knows what we’d do in the scenario but it seems like I’d just try to move on with life while remembering the good moments with my child and ignore this trial. Can’t imagine there’s much benefit to hearing the details of your child’s murder over and over when the only thing being discussed is whether he’s dead in 20 years vs 60 years and you have no influence over the outcome.

@left4david299

Жыл бұрын

Thank you@@catholicfamily6719 very cool.

@left4david299

Жыл бұрын

@@flyingchimp12 they do go into graphic detail quite a bit. I feel for the families having to go through with it. I just hope it goes in their favor eventually

@left4david299

Жыл бұрын

@@Psyminds if he does get life, I hope the other inmates take it upon themselves to give him their own death penalty. Prisoners hate child rapists and killers

Dang his memory is waaayyyyyy better then mine!

I can't wait until this is finally over for all of these poor families. 😢 May he disappear forever for their sake.

I can't help but feel bad for all of his wasted potential, maybe if he had gotten the help he needed, or the right role models in life, his life would have turned out very differently.

@lisamarieashby2523

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps. Perhaps not. There are millions who live and die, with horrible parenting and lack of good role models. And many many did NOT COMMIT MASS MURDER EITHER! There is no such thing as a perfect life. We all have strengths and weaknesses. But we all also have choices. It was his choices that explain his actions. He will have to explain his own rationalizations for it.

@gingerninjam9127

Жыл бұрын

From what I have heard he had more counselling and special programs in school than most of us have had in our lifetimes. And he had a very loving supportive mother. I feel very bad that he got bullied so much. I get how painful that is We all react differently to the trauma in our lives. Unfortunately he turned it into rage at others. With disastrous results. And there is obviously some mental health issues going on with him. But he absolutely knew what he was doing and the consequences of those actions

@patrickshaffer2138

Жыл бұрын

@@gingerninjam9127 I believe all the crack his mother was smoking and alcohol she was drinking while she was pregnant could have damaged his brain, and his impulse control, so he couldn't push back anger to the back of his mind when he was bullied, etc, like normal people can. He was known to have anger issues and get into fights at school for seemingly petty things. Obviously it doesn't excuse what he did, if it were up to me I'd give him the death penalty, he deserves it.

@Jase-L

Жыл бұрын

So true. Well said. I really liked your cover vid. Your dreamy bro. :)

@shimmer8289

Жыл бұрын

Aha I just found the hold out juror.

I can’t believe he slipped through the cracks in the system for so long. Time and time again this happens. How many innocent children have to die before something is done?

@MissSpaz

Жыл бұрын

Until the American people decide that having regulations and restrictions on who can get a gun and how, is more important than the "freedom" of everyone, even the most unstable, to have a gun, more and more people, children, will die.

How normal he looks when all the attention is on him….ignoring him is his problem! I pray he gets to endure 1000 X the pain he inflicted on his fellow students & teachers. Pure evil 👿

He is just plain evil! The devil is a liar!

@gloryB-3

Жыл бұрын

Only ignorant people make such blanket statements as yours.

The fact this gonna be a Netflix movie in the future. Just wait

Chilling. Cruz demeanor during inquiries completely different than how he has behaved in court.

I hope the jury understands the message they will send to all future shooters if they let this person live.

Cruz murdered those kids over three years ago and their having this trial. A wast of tax payer money and pain on the victims families. He did it, they have him on camera, he confessed to the deed. Enough said. Let him rot and be done with it. Let the country heal and the families. This is torture on them.

@stephaniepham2487

Жыл бұрын

This trial is part of the sentencing phase. They already knew he did it so now they're determining if he should get the death penalty or life.

@asdfghjk2933

Жыл бұрын

4.5 years ago. It's ridiculous

@WavesofJava

Жыл бұрын

grammar is the real victim here

@nealjolly5434

Жыл бұрын

@@WavesofJava Never let a credit go to waste. At least there is something your good at, besides watching KZread. Thanks for expressing that your more interested in grammar, than you are a murder'er. Shows what kind a person you are. 😁

@nealjolly5434

Жыл бұрын

@@stephaniepham2487 Get it, though it would be better to just give him what he gave his victims and be done with it.

The psychiatrist totally destroyed nearly all the groundwork the defense tried to produce for close arguments they hoped to make. I thoroughly enjoyed the way the psychiatrist used what appeared to Cruz to be casual tangential conversation to find out all sorts of things about Cruz for evaluation of him. For example, the memory capabilities evaluation, based on the seemingly "casual" conversation about chess that Cruz walked into all by himself, was amazing. At every turn, when Cruz thought he was just being chatty, the psychiatrist was actually building evidence about Cruz to reach some of the psychiatrist's most important evaluation conclusions. This psychiatrist is quite clever.

@obsey

Жыл бұрын

@@Psyminds lol

@starriw8050

Жыл бұрын

Not that clever...the kid just shot up a school and is being examined in handcuffs by a psychiatrist whos writing every word he says down. You'd need to be a complete imbecile to think any of that was "casual."

@obsey

Жыл бұрын

@@starriw8050 Cruz is in fact a complete "imbecile", as you say.

Cruz: I like animals. Also Cruz in past youtube comment: I killed 12 cats.

He's not nearly as dumb as everyone thought.

Look how well he can function under a controlled and structured environment. Everyone failed him, this is the change of 4years being isolated and structured. He needed to be in a locked structured environment from a youth.

@itsbeyondme5560

Жыл бұрын

Who? Nobody failed him but himself

The Stanford Prison Experiment was so horrific that they had to call it off after six days. It is often studied as the biggest example of the most unethical studies done in the field. Male students were offered $15 per day to participate in a "psychological study of prison life". After a large amount of psychological interviewing and analysis of the participants half were selected to be "guards" and given a uniform to de-individuate them. They were then given the other half as their "prisoners", who were given their own uniform, mo that the creator of the experiment (Phillip Zimbardo) was confronted by his wife (also a psychology expert and teacher at Stanford) after she saw what they were experiencing. The experiment was stopped the following day. One of the reasons this experiment is studied and cited as one of the worst is because the psychological damage the "prisoners" suffered. Also that it wound up contadicting what it set out to prove. It is actually the subject of a good movie called The Stanford Prison Experiment, starring Ezra Miller, which in turn was based on the book called 'The Lucifer Effect" by Zimbardo himself.

How is this still going on?

His voice makes me cringe 🥴😬

@djsaintmusic7819

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like the manlet he is

@jessice293

Жыл бұрын

AGREED! I HATE the sound of his damn voice. It makes my skin crawl 🤮🤢

@ninaschenk4727

Жыл бұрын

Yes same here it just makes me cringe looking and hearing his voice; while innocent bright young adults lost their lives because of this hideous monster!

It’s very hard to see some of myself in the way he had setbacks but seems pretty intelligent, which just makes it that much worse he knowingly did all this.. but damn the chess thing… it’s really hard to see even innocent characteristics we have in common when he is such a monster.

Why do we care about his intelligence? He knew what he was doing. OMG.

If I committed a crime like that I wouldn’t be doing interviews. The only words I would tell the judge is “Let’s just make this easy and just sentence me to death” forget the trial and this whole waiting period. Let’s just get it over with today and stop wasting time on this. Simple as that.

@flyingchimp12

Жыл бұрын

Not sure he has control over being sentenced to death or not actually

He's playing games while he should be frying

"The right to a fair and speedy trial" This trial seems fair but long and lengthy

@megansampson5445

Жыл бұрын

It has gone on too long. We've heard the most important part, the victims families have said what they needed to say to him. They need to sentence him already.

@dasaxophonist

Жыл бұрын

@@megansampson5445 agreed this needs to be wrapped up

@kana7613

Жыл бұрын

He’s plead guilty this trial is for the death sentence

@cathykrueger4899

Жыл бұрын

The prosecution is going for the death penalty which is what has dragged this out. They don’t their decision to be overturned on appeal.

@topsyturvyy4558

Жыл бұрын

Criminals enjoy lengthy trials because they are poor souls who need redemption. My God, if this was under a dictatorship this creep would be sent to the gallows in a second!

After watching this trial I see why we are going so broke!

@starguy2718

Жыл бұрын

Lawyers gotta get those billable hours.

@Helmy67

Жыл бұрын

Plus a trillion dollars or two per year for war machines and related war activities 😄on which this criminal wanted to be part of, he hoped to join military in order to get a free ticket to kill other humans.... what a sick country!!!

@Reborn_Enthusist

Жыл бұрын

@@Helmy67 sick and twisted indeed

@Helmy67

Жыл бұрын

@@Reborn_Enthusist yeah.. I don't see any difference between politician who lies to send their military to kill other humans somewhere else and this guy... each of them serves his own interests... If my country even wages an unprovoked war against other country to serve our interests as people, I still disagree and condemn it.

he’s getting the stanford prison experiment and milgrams experiment mixed up lol

I'd bet even he is sick of hearing about himself. 😒 The justice system is broken.

I'm furious watching this on KZread I couldn't imagine being in that court room with him in there I would lose my mind 😔

He can read, he can write, he can think for himself and comprehend complex subjects. He knew exactly what he did when he attacked the school and took so many lives. Give him the needle.

@MissAshley-jq9gl

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

@choclatgal1

Жыл бұрын

@@MissAshley-jq9gl sure glad he received LWOP

@choclatgal1

Жыл бұрын

LWOP

@Joey-bw1vn

Жыл бұрын

Yes amen 👏

@mr.blazzinnx4202

Жыл бұрын

Nah how about a 20 man firing squad penetrate him with many bullets…I think that would fit perfect.

How is this case still going?

@starguy2718

Жыл бұрын

Lawyers: billable hours $$$$

Why does this psychiatrist keep calling the ar15 an automatic lmao

Kind of interesting how he confidently gives wrong and incomplete answers.

@johnmanuel1268

Жыл бұрын

So stupid. Sentence to death. Nothing less. People kill one person and get death at times

@boomds5602

Жыл бұрын

Because he thinks they are right. We all do that. He just misremembered a few points from a book he read. We’ve all done that

What a waste of tax payers money. This trial has gone on for too long.

@kellygeraghty6830

Жыл бұрын

@@Psyminds obviously you have no clue, he pleaded guilty this is the sentencing hearing which has gone on for way to long. Get your facts straight before you comment.

This is soooo ridiculous. How long is the average sentences ng hearings. We're going on 3 months with this bs. His victims living and dead deserve a hearing too.

This is the longest trial I have ever witnessed

@whiteheart6827

Жыл бұрын

And it is not even a trial lol

It is complete waste of public money, this should not take this long and these many people

@emilywittig2753

Жыл бұрын

agreed. this should've been done years ago

Give these family justice already

This man is playing chess while the families children lay in coffins, smh unbelievable

Can’t believe is so calm , and I really still in awe how this “ obscure “ individual is . Cold 🥶 murderer indeed.

The way people think this trial has gone on for "too long" goes to show how little people know of court process. The risk ya'll are willing to press just to have this case end versus securing a death penalty verdict is downright disgusting

@CaliHummel

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@savannah6508

Жыл бұрын

what 💀

@savannah6508

Жыл бұрын

he WANTS death. isn’t it better to prolong his misery in solitude? cause i would never want give ithat thing the peace of death. bffr

@tiffanyholman4028

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's scary how quickly people are willing to give up rights just to feel better.

@katle4930

Жыл бұрын

No thoughts, just do & state the obvious 😂 Instead of adhering to the story in the trial or the details of his mind / what got him to do what he did, everyone wants to validate their own moral complex than focusing on preventing this rare & bad stat

He is able to recall information regarding topics of interest. I’m willing to bet he has a limited scope of interests. ASD is on a spectrum. This gentleman’s analysis is WRONG!!! I have a family member who is able to make eye contact and one who does not. The ignorance surrounding neurological disorders is astounding. Most “experts” don’t know $hit!!! For example, NC’s comments about leadership was him simply repeating what was taught in the classroom. He does not have an innate sense of empathy. He is not wired that way and therefore does not have such capacity. Sadly, this person never got his needs met which resulted in this tragedy. It’s a travesty we lost these beautiful souls. The reality is we must address mental health and access to weapons to STOP the violence. This is heartbreaking. 💔 As a society we lack the knowledge to do what is necessary to stop this cycle. Mental health is not a priority. Moreover, most practitioners are incompetent. I am angry and anger is a symptom of pain. I’ll continue to pray. 😇🙏 Sending love & light to each of you! 💖✨

Why did Dr. Scott get the Stanford Prison Experiment so wrong? It's like he combined this study with the Milgram Experiment and then added random details (like the role reversal, which never happened). I have a minor in psych and haven't taken a psych class in ages but still know these studies intimately due to their prominence in his profession. Maybe not important, but little details like this make "expert witnesses" a little hard to take at face value....

@elizabethbrauer1118

Жыл бұрын

yeah I find this MD wanting

It’s clear he loves and seeks attention It shows when he would make outrageous post on social media only to get a reaction out of people and to spark a “conversation” He intentionally put those drawings in his cell. Also how he changes his voice when he wants to appear innocent and naive He knows what he’s doing.

For those talking about the defense lawyers: They are public defenders who had no choice in being his representation. They actually tried to get a judge to overturn the decision so he would have to pay for his own lawyers. But his inheritance from his mom is being contested in court so he doesn’t actually have any money to his name. So the judge overruled it and here we are. They are doing a great service by giving it their all in defending him because they are pretty much guaranteeing he can’t come back and say they sabotaged him. This prevents putting the victims through another trial. And in every single trial, lawyers call for mistrials. If they did not motion for one, it would be suspect that they were not truly trying to defend him. So it was very stupid of the judge to say their motion for mistrial was stupid when she should have understood they *knew* it wouldn’t actually happen, it never actually does result in anything unless something wild happens, they were just doing it to have on record they did everything they could. Aside from Nick, the slimy person in the courtroom is the judge. She seems to enjoy pretending to be holier than thou with the defense when she absolutely knows better and should be appreciative of their efforts to keep our justice system intact. She is just putting on a show for the cameras. The prosecutors and public defenders seem to have an understanding and respect for each other, the prosecutors have even told the judge to chill out at times, which tells you they all understand what’s truly going on in the courtroom.

@nightmarezero8465

Жыл бұрын

The problem is.... this judge is letting her emotions and bias getting out. Unless you're a left wing nut job being an actual GOOD unbiased judge is extremely difficult. Which is the reason why we should all count ourselves lucky that the judge is not also the jury like it was way back in the day before we were born. You sway a judge you win or anger her you lose. Let the judge have her tantrums. Typical female can't keep emotions in check. Just kidding. But seriously consider ourselves lucky. I'd be pretty mad at the school system too because I know how the kid turned out the way he did and that nothing I do can stop it by being a judge. It all starts with bullies.

@slaphappybullet

Жыл бұрын

@@nightmarezero8465 I don’t know what you’re saying. I’ve watched a lot of trials and a lot of female judges. This one is hamming it up for the cameras no doubt.

@nightmarezero8465

Жыл бұрын

@@slaphappybullet maybe but who really knows? I don't read minds I just go by from the other cases I've seen.

@MissSpaz

Жыл бұрын

@@nightmarezero8465 Interesting how people are always bringing politics into places where it doesn't belong.

@drygimangdrminjak8177

Жыл бұрын

@@nightmarezero8465 idk, most of the good judges ive seen were female, this is just her, there are bad male judges too, like the guy that sentenced the murderer of vincent chin, in his own words "I dont give a sentence based on the crime, but based on the man. That man didn't look like someone that would go to jail."

I pray for the families, 17 people died because of his selfish acts

@michellenainkristinabusch1221

Жыл бұрын

And 17 injured, as well as dozens mentally scared

This witness was an amazing choice for the state. Such a smart man.

he knew right from wrong, there's no hiding from the truth now, they should wrap it up pretty soon, and hope he rots in jail or where he deserves to be, hes just faking being nice.

Listening to his analysis(predatorial killer) gives me a significant amount of distain. His ability to extract information and recall it shows sign of a capable human being. He is by no means "stupid" as this thing once thought. May he rot in prison for the rest of his life. He won't be killed, I can almost guarentee this.

@melissaosborne3437

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with your statement Brandon Herron

@jambs1221

Жыл бұрын

Most murderers,psychopaths, etc are actually very smart. It’s crazy how that is !!

@mariee.5912

Жыл бұрын

"Stupid" is not a mental health diagnosis, it's a choice.

@wallywest5186

Жыл бұрын

his defense teams case for him not being mentally in the right mind is already unraveling, and they're attempting to save his life. There isn't even a teensie tiny bit of sympathy that they can draw from to get him life without parole. Your guarantee is as mute as his chances for survival

@paulmchugh3547

Жыл бұрын

Disdain *

Is there a sentence yet? I've been looking at these videos for like 2 months it feels like

Cruz’s voice is like scratches on a chalkboard. Omfg so cringey

Nothing excuses what this person did. But I did find the prosecution’s expert witness’s understanding of autism and memory issues to be stereotypical & incomplete. You can be knowledgeable &!remember a lot of facts, & still have short term memory issues. You can be on the autism spectrum & still initiate interactions or make eye contact.

@salmonflavored

Жыл бұрын

Does a lack of short term memory mean you're more likely to kill somebody tho

@jur9254

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for that! I went through a few diagnosis like mixed anxiety-depressive disorder, then bipolar disorder, etc but only now (I'm 26) there has been discussions with my psych that I can be on the autism spectrum, high functioning, and these other disorders would be a consequence. So I do struggle a bit with keeping eye contact, but I can do it. I can read perfectly well and remember things. I notice it's way more about the social symptoms. So I'd pass these tests, but I would fail to make friends, to touch or be touched, to hear noises, to not be aggressive and isolated, and so on. The spectrum has a very twisted line, it's not that straight as he put it. Is this enough to make one kill so many people? I don't think so, but the isolation turns you into an animal, really. You lose a lot from reality. And previous talks show he did struggle with it.

@jackwilson5542

Жыл бұрын

Autism was ruled out in his case on multiple occasions during his life.

God bless this wonderful doctor 🙏

I think the defendant was referencing the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Dr was referencing the Milgram Experiment. No difference in what he extrapolated, though.

@laurahompus

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, and I'm not a forensic psychiatrist... Where's yoour memory, doc? Gotta be precise... The concepts in those experiments are very different too! One is about the abuse of power when being put in such a role, the other is about doing as your told by an authority because of "reasons".

@LS-qw3ez

Жыл бұрын

@@laurahompus True! I have to say, overall, I got the most insight from watching this clip (over others covering the trial). His eagerness to talk in general, and specifically about guns/military, is so unsettling. I assumed he was just extremely mentally handicapped. But lo and behold, he does have basic intelligence. And beyond that, he seemed to take great effort to APPEAR intelligent. He wasn’t smart enough to read the room and see where the questions trended (hint: the doctor doesn’t actually care about your international war predictions or what you remember of chess), but he really seemed to want to be taken seriously/converse “intelligently”. It shifted my view that he was pathetic and disturbed and misguided to thinking he’s pathetic, disturbed, but with a very specific and antisocial guide 😬

@katle4930

Жыл бұрын

@@laurahompus it doesn’t take a forensic scientist to get his point. the “different” experiments & their concepts aren’t relevant themselves. the video gets played after too. he’s describing Nik & his lvl of comprehension to compare, give diagnosis, etc

@laurahompus

Жыл бұрын

@@katle4930 Sure, I agree! But if we're going to put every little detail of what the defendant has said and done under a microscope, it simply had to be pointed out ;) I'm not disagreeing with the doc, and i understand his point... It could simply be something the defense could use too ya know, as ways of discrediting the expertise of him as a witness, albeit a small detail...

I can’t even play chess nor even grasp it

The aurora Colorado shooting he refers to as "aurora borealis." huh.....