Was There An Advanced Civilization Before Humans? | Answers With Joe

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It took humans 10,000 years to go from hunter-gatherers to world domination. Considering the vastness of time that humans and life have been on Earth, could this have happened once before?
This question was put forth by Adam Frank and Gavin Schmidt in their paper titled The Silurian Hypothesis, where they tried to figure out what in the geologic record would be a sign of a previous industrial civilization. It brings up a lot of questions and makes you deal with the weight of deep time, as well as the fleeting nature of history.
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  • @danbojtor
    @danbojtor3 жыл бұрын

    We'll probably be extinct in few million years, but Queen Elizabeth will be there to tell our stories.

  • @teachmeguitar4149

    @teachmeguitar4149

    3 жыл бұрын

    👏👏👏👏👏 hilarious

  • @basementdwellercosplay

    @basementdwellercosplay

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good for her

  • @verify6329

    @verify6329

    3 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it we are about to become interplanetary, in a few million years we are sure to have moved to other solar systems so I think it would be quite hard to go extinct

  • @OswaldBeef

    @OswaldBeef

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@verify6329 WE are not about to become interplanetary not even close. Perhaps like 0.1% of us are but you realize you and I cant afford those tickets.... the space race is literally an escape plan for people with so much money...they'd have to have raped our planets resources to achieve it....and they did.

  • @aureavita8653

    @aureavita8653

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@OswaldBeef and after all that... Queen Elizabeth will still be Long live our Gracious Queen!

  • @facetiousmonkey5322
    @facetiousmonkey53223 жыл бұрын

    Joe: nothing today will be around in 10,000 years Twinkies: challenge accepted

  • @Cybernaut551

    @Cybernaut551

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope Homo sapiens are remembered for their accomplishments and legacies.

  • @facetiousmonkey5322

    @facetiousmonkey5322

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Cybernaut551 Joey: Did Homo Sapiens go extinct because they were "Homo" Sapiens? Ross: Homo Sapiens are PEOPLE! Joey: Hey! I'm not Judging!

  • @cometrider2000

    @cometrider2000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@facetiousmonkey5322 Soylent Green is people !

  • @iainmair485

    @iainmair485

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hotdogs would win hands down.

  • @bomat761

    @bomat761

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stainless Steel says, “hold my beer”.

  • @primeral
    @primeral Жыл бұрын

    There is evidence that there was once an extremely advanced civilization eons before us. It's covered in a documentary called Battlestar Galactica.

  • @bunkertons

    @bunkertons

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @smnkm4ehfer

    @smnkm4ehfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @steeldriver1776

    @steeldriver1776

    Жыл бұрын

    The first sentence read very differently than the second. Very.

  • @mzr5165

    @mzr5165

    Жыл бұрын

    Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica

  • @williestroker3404

    @williestroker3404

    Жыл бұрын

    The "historical documents" - Mathazar, Galaxy Quest

  • @SaintPhoenixx
    @SaintPhoenixx Жыл бұрын

    I think the idea of a future human civilisation discovering Mount Rushmore and how they'd interpret it is a fascinating one. Makes you think about whether we've misinterpreted discoveries of ancient civilisations or even just historical artefacts. Who's to say we got it all right? We probably haven't, we can only assume. It's an interesting idea.

  • @YETTheShow

    @YETTheShow

    Жыл бұрын

    You should check out Petra.

  • @MSB-sn1md

    @MSB-sn1md

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s largely accepted that the vast majority of history is lost to us. What we have discovered is largely regarded as minimal compared to what actually happened.

  • @StefanieReamer

    @StefanieReamer

    Жыл бұрын

    As an archaeologist, we joke about it all the time. Especially when something is labelled a “ritual object”. We’re well aware, and a lot of the time debating it.

  • @vivianloney8826

    @vivianloney8826

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StefanieReamer I remember when I learned about archaeology in middle school the first thing we did was read a description some future archaeologist would've written describing the toilet as a ritual object of extreme religious importance.. "a shrine of durable, expensive porcelain in the center of every home"

  • @davidbowman2001

    @davidbowman2001

    Жыл бұрын

    They’d probably think damn this looks like shit.

  • @carlosmontgomery4178
    @carlosmontgomery41782 жыл бұрын

    This is my favorite definition: Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal. A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Margaret Mead’s summary: helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts.

  • @Confuseddave

    @Confuseddave

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: the only source for this anecdote is from a creationist, and in the original telling she (supposedly) refers to "savage societies" rather than "the animal kingdom".

  • @chriswiber7121

    @chriswiber7121

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've seen this reply on so many videos

  • @GBart

    @GBart

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's beautiful

  • @GBart

    @GBart

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Confuseddave well no reason we can't correct her, she was close

  • @AtlasCompleXtheProd

    @AtlasCompleXtheProd

    2 жыл бұрын

    So civilization has an expiration. We're getting close now

  • @sverrg
    @sverrg3 жыл бұрын

    Humans: build all their first cities on fertile floodplains that get wiped out in flash floods every few decades Also humans: "Why were our ancestors obsessed with floods?!"

  • @mephistophelescountcaglios1489

    @mephistophelescountcaglios1489

    3 жыл бұрын

    An easy way to clean the streets?

  • @Skitdora2010

    @Skitdora2010

    3 жыл бұрын

    The most expensive and coveted land today are the beach front property along coasts. They get hit with hurricanes and it is theorized that they will be lost due to global warming and rising ocean waters over the next few decades. Today: Billionaires fight for houses on the coastline which only go up in value.

  • @Calligraphybooster

    @Calligraphybooster

    3 жыл бұрын

    We expect better results from planting our nuclear reactors there😄

  • @diannawilson1329

    @diannawilson1329

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Skitdora2010 "replacement cost" insurance. Guaranteed pay off.

  • @keithbender6382

    @keithbender6382

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. The sea has some weirdly preserved artifacts that should not exist..

  • @ripadipaflipa4672
    @ripadipaflipa4672 Жыл бұрын

    Joe is way too addictive. I can’t watch in the mornings because I end up watching the whole day.

  • @adamarmstrong5780

    @adamarmstrong5780

    Жыл бұрын

    All fax. No phone

  • @despacitodaniel801

    @despacitodaniel801

    Жыл бұрын

    Big air-conditioning. Not a fan.

  • @GnarledSage

    @GnarledSage

    5 ай бұрын

    @@adamarmstrong5780no job

  • @stephaniehowell1109

    @stephaniehowell1109

    4 ай бұрын

    Nothing like a cup of Morning Joe...❤

  • @jenniferwong4530
    @jenniferwong4530 Жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on the number of rivers around the world that have dried up? Even the Euphrates and the Mississippi Rivers have dried significantly. China has 66 majors rivers that have dried up. Shanghai, a massive city, is having power issues because of the lack of hydroelectric power levels dropping off. Kinda scary😬

  • @carlrobison6065
    @carlrobison60653 жыл бұрын

    Me: "Yay! It's time for some Answers" Joe: "Every thing is doomed to fail" Me: "Yay! Answers!"

  • @RRSmurf

    @RRSmurf

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @wrinkyscarnagecrew

    @wrinkyscarnagecrew

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao.....answers!

  • @abhisheksharma-sb3er

    @abhisheksharma-sb3er

    3 жыл бұрын

    U forget about underwear 😂

  • @OslerWannabe

    @OslerWannabe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, cool - another faux KZread dialog. Y' know, if you ever tire of being derivative and tiresome, you might try a direct declarative statement of your thoughts. People would be more likely to take you seriously.

  • @wrinkyscarnagecrew

    @wrinkyscarnagecrew

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@OslerWannabe you know every video he ever makes is one of the best so maybe you should shut your blabber keyboard mouth that is all...... I got you Joe my boxing gloves are on and it's his mama not yours this time🤣

  • @AA_21861
    @AA_218612 жыл бұрын

    There's a probable reason why so many cultures have flood myths. Floods fall into a sort of Goldilocks zone when it comes to disasters. Unlike volcanoes and earthquakes, they are relatively common. They are more common than plagues (present situation notwithstanding) and they leave enough survivors to pass on tales to the next generation. Yet they cause enough hardship to leave significant trauma behind. Unlike fires, they cannot be fought or controlled too easily. To ancient people, floods must have been the most terrifying common disaster they'd encounter in their lifetimes. Let's not forget that their cosmologies were different from ours -- deep waters like seas were usually the limits of their world and smacked strongly of the unknown ("Here be monsters"). Enough people would have been familiar with floods for cultures to frame myths and stories around them. Not very different from how we have so many stories of nuclear armageddon in the 60s and 70s when the cold war was at its height and nuclear arms race rampant. For many cultures, floods must have been like their ultimate armageddon.

  • @TheMarioMen1

    @TheMarioMen1

    2 жыл бұрын

    “Here be monsters”

  • @kaizarchan

    @kaizarchan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMarioMen1 This... is Monsters.

  • @marcelor.rodrigues9584

    @marcelor.rodrigues9584

    2 жыл бұрын

    Floods and plagues are very related. also with famine. the greats famine on bangladesh are cause by floods. the birthplace of black death is a flood area(wuhan china, yes all plagues originated from there).

  • @nigelholland1714

    @nigelholland1714

    2 жыл бұрын

    People were sailing the world way before us

  • @fuwad84

    @fuwad84

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also, let's not forget that all civilizations started near bodies of water and often built up near and around them, which explains why floods were so common, consequential and deadly.

  • @mikewarbin5776
    @mikewarbin5776 Жыл бұрын

    I try to watch your channel whenever I can. Really enjoy this one. Thank you for taking the time to explain!!

  • @coconutcore
    @coconutcore Жыл бұрын

    To anyone vaguely interested in anthropology, I HIGHLY recommend the book Sapiens. You’ll look more sceptically at the statement “and you were born here! Look how lucky you are!” To put it shortly, we weren’t made for the way we made ourselves live. Prehistoric humans didn’t quite live in the hellscape we imagine, even if it was far less comfortable. We strive for convenience and comfort, thinking it brings us happiness. Things are more complicated than that. In fact, is brings us problems. Some we know of, some we never even think about. We also can’t go back on any inventions with negative consequences, and we’re advancing faster than we or the earth can adapt to. Also, crops domesticated us more than we domesticated them, even if it was our idea (hard to explain, that one). So basically, those people who first started doing agriculture, they opened Pandora’s Box, and we can never go back. Again, I recommend the book, especially if you think I’m going insane.

  • @Greg__K

    @Greg__K

    6 ай бұрын

    I don’t like when people act like tribes had no idea what they were doing. Humans can have more leisure time then a lot of other species. We weren’t constantly scrambling to gather and hunt nonstop in “survival mode”. I’ll have to checkout that book. Thanks for your comment.

  • @coconutcore

    @coconutcore

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Greg__K Glad I could recommend it to someone else who might like it. It’s totally true by the way. It’s that typical mentality of “people in the past didn’t know what I know, so they were dumb.” Whilst people in the past knew a ton of stuff that we don’t know that we don’t know, things that might be less useful to us now, or maybe stuff that we just forgot to care about over the generations. Stuff like inner peace, because it’s kinda us that live closest to a constant state of survival.

  • @ElfMaidWithInternet
    @ElfMaidWithInternet3 жыл бұрын

    The age of elves has long since passed, only a few of us remain, and even then only in hidden places long forgotten. There is still Internet access though.

  • @szithaanu9934

    @szithaanu9934

    3 жыл бұрын

    I read that as 'The Age of Elvis'. It still made sense.

  • @chironOwlglass

    @chironOwlglass

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@szithaanu9934 Luckily, the Age of Elvis has almost passed.

  • @ElfMaidWithInternet

    @ElfMaidWithInternet

    3 жыл бұрын

    @nonya business I am born of those Avari among the Wood-elves who chose to live many an age in the land of the former Mirkwood. Though most have now departed, faded into wraiths and haunts, or else departed across beyond the bending sea, I and a few of mine kin have discovered a passage to the Faewild. By occasionally flickering in between, we are able to refresh our physical forms, but not without risk of encountering nameless things.

  • @Krisjennewein

    @Krisjennewein

    3 жыл бұрын

    @nonya business Albia; na-chaered palan diriel, o-nef aear, si nef aeraon, O aglar Elenath.

  • @nikolaikorpachenkopv7761

    @nikolaikorpachenkopv7761

    3 жыл бұрын

    @nonya business what books are you referring to here?

  • @ColdHawk
    @ColdHawk3 жыл бұрын

    “And on the pedestal, these words appear: My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.” Gotta love Shelley

  • @joescott

    @joescott

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a classic.

  • @SofaKingShit

    @SofaKingShit

    3 жыл бұрын

    You maybe gotta love Shelly but l prefer Sandy.

  • @dissonanceparadiddle

    @dissonanceparadiddle

    3 жыл бұрын

    @John Jones could be because of watchmen? Or they just actually know the poem from the primary source

  • @veritasvalere88

    @veritasvalere88

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup great

  • @burningb2439

    @burningb2439

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for that Im now going to look up Shelley , but thanks to You I will remember that.. an this is the 2nd time this week Ah just went 66 on your likes an a few days ago I went 666 else where..Hmmm?..but I did luv your comment..

  • @unstanic
    @unstanic Жыл бұрын

    There have been new studies recently that point towards a flood at around 12,000 BC, due to a meteorite hit in Greenland. I think they found the crate very recently. Maybe a good topic to touch on…

  • @kcck7588

    @kcck7588

    7 ай бұрын

    Exactly when God said it happened.

  • @HOLDENPOPE

    @HOLDENPOPE

    4 ай бұрын

    "When the Earth starts to settle, God throws a stone at it. And believe me, he's winding up..."@@kcck7588

  • @Byronic19134

    @Byronic19134

    3 ай бұрын

    Younger Dryas. It’s a scientific fact there was a global flood 12,000 years ago. It is also fact that every culture around the world has a creation story involving beings from the sky saving them from a flood. Make of that what you will. BTW Turkey government officially acknowledges Noah’s Ark has been found in their mountains.

  • @visassess8607
    @visassess8607 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see archaeological evidence from places currently underwater.

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord43 жыл бұрын

    I'm on board with this, as there was plenty of time to start and end. Consider: T-Rex is closer to us in time than it was to Stegosaurus.

  • @heavymeddle28

    @heavymeddle28

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is... Pretty cool and scary 🐸🦕

  • @CrazyFunnyCats

    @CrazyFunnyCats

    3 жыл бұрын

    How long?

  • @lendog420

    @lendog420

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really wow didn't know that

  • @ravenlord4

    @ravenlord4

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CrazyFunnyCats When T-Rex came on the scene, Stegosaurus was already about 86 million years dead and extinct. But for Humans, T-Rex itself is only about 66 million years extinct. It's wild to think about.

  • @janeaparis

    @janeaparis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you know T-Rex is just a big chicken? We eat them every day.

  • @adamhoward7277
    @adamhoward72773 жыл бұрын

    “Imagine the deep future, long after we’re long and forgotten and nobody even knows we were here” like damn 2100 isn’t even that long away

  • @jasonross9212

    @jasonross9212

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can we just get through 2020 1st 🙄

  • @jbirdmax

    @jbirdmax

    3 жыл бұрын

    You might just be about right friend.

  • @Aconitum_napellus

    @Aconitum_napellus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jasonross9212 Actually, no! We really need to sort out all the carbon emissions because you can't self-isolate your way out of cataclysmic climate change.

  • @ARockyRock

    @ARockyRock

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think well make it until 2112.

  • @SHDUStudios

    @SHDUStudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least we’ll be remembered in some way.

  • @BrookeReamsthephoenix
    @BrookeReamsthephoenix4 ай бұрын

    Thank you, you have inspired a science curiosity in my I haven't felt since I was a child! Truly, thank you. I have officially started my blog. Here's to another year where we knew more than we did last year!

  • @MckieDs595
    @MckieDs595 Жыл бұрын

    The problem with the Seuss effect is that the assumption is that the way we use/create energy is the same as civilizations of the past. There is so much technology that has been lost and we have no idea how certain things happened.

  • @TheUnatuber
    @TheUnatuber3 жыл бұрын

    "Homo Erectus lasted nine times longer than us." Gotta admire men like that!

  • @danielesquivel5621

    @danielesquivel5621

    3 жыл бұрын

    9 seconds isn't that impressive either

  • @chrsmcfrln

    @chrsmcfrln

    3 жыл бұрын

    Giggity.

  • @srgreeniii

    @srgreeniii

    3 жыл бұрын

    LMFAO

  • @jacquelinebrunder2384

    @jacquelinebrunder2384

    3 жыл бұрын

    Homo Erectus was an ape with 48 chromosomes and humans have 46 so they weren't men but were apes.

  • @samyim3365

    @samyim3365

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacquelinebrunder2384 he is hinting at his bedroom stamina. lol, very nice!!!

  • @danielabrahams4061
    @danielabrahams40612 жыл бұрын

    This is actually a great perspective to be aware of. As a side note I have always wondered if the tectonic plates would eventually (over enough time) have completely changed their original surface - meaning everything that was once on the earth would end up being recycled within it leaving no trace of what there was.

  • @Zaradorian

    @Zaradorian

    2 жыл бұрын

    I remember learning about how the plates shift and that being something I asked myself, if the plate that doesn't "win" I guess and ends up getting crushed under another one, if it gets pushed down far enough to get heated and melt into the deeper layers of the earth.

  • @veramae4098

    @veramae4098

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @FalkFlak

    @FalkFlak

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. For example the canadian shield contains the oldest rocks reaching back 4 billion years. Everything else is lost to us. But the time of earth is limited so it can't repeat any number of times.

  • @anthonynicholson5523

    @anthonynicholson5523

    2 жыл бұрын

    Subduction. And yes ...it does and that's what it's called.

  • @CorePathway

    @CorePathway

    2 жыл бұрын

    No trace in 10k years? Pfft, you have no clue. Who is going to fill in all the massive open pit mines all over the damn world? Do you know anything of metallurgy or ceramics? We are making alloys that can withstand re-entry. We have geosynchronous satellites that will still be in orbit in 10k years. So just staaaaaahp it already, Kemosabe.

  • @slawck9635
    @slawck963510 ай бұрын

    Wait a second?! No mention of gobekli tepe in this episode of all episodes 🧐

  • @Sebastian-ms9lw
    @Sebastian-ms9lw Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to take a one semester history class from this guy.

  • @janakaone
    @janakaone3 жыл бұрын

    Since Mt. Rushmore will be the only thing left after 20k years, future civilizations will think of us as a stone age civilization

  • @jacobarendt3727

    @jacobarendt3727

    3 жыл бұрын

    that’s wild to think about

  • @carpdog42

    @carpdog42

    3 жыл бұрын

    This realization bothers me deeply and makes me want to start a campaign to have better faces put up. The future civilizations may not know they are gazing on the face of slavers and war pigs; but I would prefer they not know they are gazing on the faces of truely great minds.

  • @drinkbread6086

    @drinkbread6086

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carpdog42 Teddy didn't do anything wrong

  • @carpdog42

    @carpdog42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@drinkbread6086 He intentionally signed up to participate in a war. We can find someone better.

  • @dallyh.2960

    @dallyh.2960

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carpdog42 man I would hate to take you on a vacation to Europe. "Look at these cool Roman statues!" "Oh you mean the statues of slavers and war pigs? Wish the ancients could have left us better people to look at."

  • @DanJMW
    @DanJMW2 жыл бұрын

    The interesting thing about the models discussed here is that they leave plenty of room for pre-industrial civilizations to rise and fall without trace.

  • @timhallas4275

    @timhallas4275

    2 жыл бұрын

    Without a trace? We have a complete record of hominid evolution dating back 7million years. People who built cities would be easy to find.

  • @DanJMW

    @DanJMW

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@timhallas4275 Complete? you may want to check that. Along with how much we know about the very earliest civilizations (besides evolution and civilization are different things). Or even just watch the video again and pay attention to what Joe says about erosion. And then there's what we can define as a "city" when it comes to bronze-age technology or earlier. Then it gets really fun if we consider pre-hominid species that may have reached, say stone age or "bamboo-age" technology. As Joe says, even a few million years back would completely erase any trace.

  • @timhallas4275

    @timhallas4275

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DanJMW We have 5, 7, 10, 30, even 300 million year old fossils. YES, we know there were no advanced civilizations before the end of the last glaciation period. We have detailed records of the oldest civilizations, and none of them were more than 10,000 years ago.

  • @timhallas4275

    @timhallas4275

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DanJMW You have too much time on your hands. I concede. Bye.

  • @DanJMW

    @DanJMW

    2 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy reading about this kind of stuff, so it was actually a very pleasant 20 minutes. No worries.

  • @wasteland70
    @wasteland70 Жыл бұрын

    I've been watching your videos for the last two days. I just subscribed. So much interesting material. Thanks.

  • @M4TCH3SM4L0N3
    @M4TCH3SM4L0N34 ай бұрын

    This thing all things devours: Birds, beasts, trees, flowers; Gnaws iron, bites steel; Grinds hard stones to meal; Slays king, ruins town, And beats high mountain down.

  • @dougzartman2494
    @dougzartman24942 жыл бұрын

    Consider the fact that Homo Erectus developed a stone tool, the triangular double-edged handaxe, which was a wonderful complex tool, great for all kinds of chopping tasks, and they made it the same way with no innovation, for 1M years. These are people who mastered fire, and left Africa to spread around the globe - never changed the design of the handaxe. To us it is astonishing that a fundamental technology could be static that long, but it was.

  • @TigerLily61811

    @TigerLily61811

    2 жыл бұрын

    yet ironically - we still use the same thing. Our axes and knives are made of metal now, yet basically the same design.

  • @NarwahlGaming

    @NarwahlGaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    If it ain't broke...?

  • @richardreinertson1335

    @richardreinertson1335

    2 жыл бұрын

    Taking your thought further: Homo sapiens discovered metallurgy within around 300,000 years. This indicates to me that Homo erectus was simply not intelligent nor innovative enough to develop civilization. Smart though, by all evolutionary precedents up to that time. REALLY smart. But still: Not smart enough. And consider the fact that it took OUR species 300,000 years to discover metallurgy. So: How smart are WE, really? Well, okay, you can't go from ignorance to knowledge without a lot of serendipity and lucky accidents. To be fair. Sitll, tho: Why were our ancestors not examining their environment with more curiosity and intentional inventiveness? Well, there are always more questions than answers. And as @Narwahl Gaming astutely observed: If it ain't broke...

  • @thewildcardperson

    @thewildcardperson

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richardreinertson1335 mass creativity is a very new thing

  • @sacredfire536

    @sacredfire536

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richardreinertson1335 there’s no such thing as a lucky accident or a coincidence it is simply just your perception of these events that has led you to believe that. Are WE smart? No. Are SOME people more than smart? Absofuckinglutely. Throughout history a small group of people have made inventions and dragged the rest of us almost literally kicking and screaming into innovation. Humans in general and en masse are a susperstitious backward lot.

  • @ryantwombly720
    @ryantwombly7203 жыл бұрын

    The Doctor once complained that the Silurians had, in fact, been named after the wrong era. They should have been called the Eocenes. Coincidence? Yes. Also, we’re one singing frog in a time capsule from proving today’s hypothesis. Call back!

  • @maciek_k.cichon

    @maciek_k.cichon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Time capsule is cheap tick with an hat frog, I would only buy a few million yo space ship with dinosaurs on it

  • @sneeringimperialist6667

    @sneeringimperialist6667

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just noticed the little Tardis model on the shelf behind him before I read your comment.

  • @ericlipps9459
    @ericlipps94597 ай бұрын

    That first creature looks more like a Sleestak from the original "Land of the Lost" TV show than like a Silurian.

  • @carlosrsolrac
    @carlosrsolrac Жыл бұрын

    On your comments, regarding what would be found in the future. When you said Mt Rushmore, I was also thinking about the seed and oreo "vaults" that are claimed to be build into mountains. Generally speaking wouldn't other human structures built into stone or cave systems likely survive in some capacity? Albeit maybe weathered.

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop44213 жыл бұрын

    "Imagine the deep future, long after we're all gone" So next Thursday?

  • @Jackofafewtrades

    @Jackofafewtrades

    3 жыл бұрын

    If this isn’t a Douglas Adams reference, imma be disappointed.

  • @LetsTalkAboutPrepping

    @LetsTalkAboutPrepping

    3 жыл бұрын

    Must be tuesday. I never could get the hang of tuesdays

  • @codename495

    @codename495

    3 жыл бұрын

    I trust this statement to the end of the earth.

  • @ColdHawk

    @ColdHawk

    3 жыл бұрын

    D614G has entered the chat

  • @aureavita8653

    @aureavita8653

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Yevhenii Diomidov thursday is a timeless cycle of the universe. it only ends because we need friday, the best day of the week.

  • @thedorkages9789
    @thedorkages97893 жыл бұрын

    Millions of years from now, historians will say that the faces on mount rushmore were former hokages.

  • @7R15M3G1

    @7R15M3G1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahh a man of culture

  • @peterpayne2219

    @peterpayne2219

    3 жыл бұрын

    *Moefist* (owner of J-List here)

  • @jasonking1284

    @jasonking1284

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whats a hokage. Never heard that word before. Why not just use plain English words.

  • @7R15M3G1

    @7R15M3G1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jasonking1284 because it's not an english word?

  • @jasonking1284

    @jasonking1284

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@7R15M3G1 Yeh? and how many people use that word every day? Very few. Most people will have to Google it to find out its meaning. Why do ppl like OP like to send others on goose chases?

  • @aadiden
    @aadiden Жыл бұрын

    One problem with carbon emission to measure advancement, is that the less population might not ever emit as much on the first place! All in all, great talk! Very thought provoking!

  • @TheShattenjager
    @TheShattenjager2 ай бұрын

    At 7:00 you mentioned the oldest tools found. I actually know the archaeologist who first spotted them on that dig! Could have been a different one but similar, but I think that's the very one. So amazing.

  • @tombystander
    @tombystander3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like we know 5% of human history.

  • @ashemgold

    @ashemgold

    3 жыл бұрын

    Less than 1% if you believe half of what Joe just said. I don't know if you caught it, but most of it was guesses.

  • @malkavianloner8808

    @malkavianloner8808

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well I hear that 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.... So everything tracks

  • @malkavianloner8808

    @malkavianloner8808

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like we know less about human history than we do about oceans and space

  • @tannerps2004

    @tannerps2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@malkavianloner8808 What do the polluters know or care about the oceans?

  • @tannerps2004

    @tannerps2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Grimsby Reapers You on the meth again?

  • @brianfarley2388
    @brianfarley23883 жыл бұрын

    "All this has happened before, and all this will happen again"

  • @frankgesuele6298

    @frankgesuele6298

    3 жыл бұрын

    And again & again.

  • @neatlife8049

    @neatlife8049

    3 жыл бұрын

    given Penrose's CCC, there may be infinite big bangs going back and forward in time and each of us has occurred an infinite number of times going forwards and backwards in time

  • @seeingeyegod

    @seeingeyegod

    3 жыл бұрын

    Starbuck was a crazy intense biatch of an angel

  • @tuncayzafer6775

    @tuncayzafer6775

    3 жыл бұрын

    So say we all

  • @heavnnnsent

    @heavnnnsent

    3 жыл бұрын

    No wonder I keep having deja vu over and over again Make it stop!

  • @seanbeukman9563
    @seanbeukman95634 ай бұрын

    Great Channel! U da man brother! U know your stuff. Plus you just give us the facts supported by graphics. Plus Your delivery proves that you are well read and confident of your knowledge. Thanks bro! So cool.🙌💪👊

  • @tippyzuk1
    @tippyzuk1 Жыл бұрын

    I think an update might be due, lots of new theories based on good evidence. Great videos Joe!

  • @LordPhobos6502
    @LordPhobos65023 жыл бұрын

    "It's not like I'm saying it's aliens or something..." No; you gotta have *the hairstyle* to talk about aliens.

  • @lokixthor4eva587

    @lokixthor4eva587

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @jenniferwilliams5430

    @jenniferwilliams5430

    2 жыл бұрын

    Come on darlin'....it won't take much to get ya up to speed

  • @noobhero6661

    @noobhero6661

    2 жыл бұрын

    Either that or a time traveling spaceship that was grown, a British accent, and an eccentric personality with love for the human race.

  • @The_Rude_French_Canadian

    @The_Rude_French_Canadian

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lokixthor4eva587 New to the internets are we eh? Just look up “ancient aliens meme” you’ll get it.

  • @augustuscaesar8287

    @augustuscaesar8287

    2 жыл бұрын

    All he's got to do is stick a fork in an electrical outlet.

  • @gregbrown4009
    @gregbrown40093 жыл бұрын

    Ah. . . the Lizard People episode. Finally.

  • @PatRiot-

    @PatRiot-

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dang you beat me by 1 min haha clearly it’s advanced lizard people- with LAZERS

  • @i.r_297

    @i.r_297

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn this is my favourite comment in this video 😂😝

  • @nosuchthing8

    @nosuchthing8

    3 жыл бұрын

    I guess

  • @i.r_297

    @i.r_297

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nosuchthing8 well yes it I'm assuming that this was for me 😛

  • @pipsqeak7104

    @pipsqeak7104

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sleestack, that's what I call Them.

  • @billstapleton1084
    @billstapleton10844 ай бұрын

    Just as you said, in 20,000 years all that would be left of us would be Mt Rushmore. Isn't that what we find with the Pyramids?

  • @leoirias3506
    @leoirias3506 Жыл бұрын

    Man im glad the youtube algorythm put this channel in my recommended today, i subscribed after watching the first video. Really interesting topics, a great way of explaining them and the cherry on top is this guy humor sense.

  • @TechnicolorDojo
    @TechnicolorDojo3 жыл бұрын

    JMG had Jason Wright on Event Horizon last week and they discussed this same topic. My favorite takeaway from it was the idea that we could discover a prior technological species by recovering their derelict space probes just outside the solar system.

  • @sertaki

    @sertaki

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is an idea I have not thought about.

  • @NuclearTopSpot

    @NuclearTopSpot

    3 жыл бұрын

    ''just outside the solar system'' We didn't even have clear pictures of pluto until a few years ago.(which is like a million billion times more massive than a tiny space probe) Now mutiply the distance the voyager probes have travelt times a few hundred/thousand years and good luck finding that thing in an undefined sphere around the solar system

  • @rsdna9698

    @rsdna9698

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have spacecraft sitting in Lagrange points that will be there forever.

  • @josephburchanowski4636

    @josephburchanowski4636

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NuclearTopSpot Well luckily if we ever get somewhat space fairing, we'd have some truly gigantic telescopes.

  • @JosePineda-cy6om

    @JosePineda-cy6om

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rsdna9698 Not quite "forever": solar wind plus gamma rays and Xrays will slowly erode these things until all that remains of them in a few hundred thousand years are blackened pieces of metal which just barely resemble their original selves. After a few million years, they will be almost undistinguishable from a natural meteorite. Same will happen to Elon's Tesla.

  • @LenMarten
    @LenMarten2 жыл бұрын

    I've always had issues with this huge assumption that progress is some sort of linear graph that heads upwards over time. What if it was a lot more "bumpy"? Good video, well explained and suitably caveated throughout! ...but it was Aliens right?

  • @solgato5186

    @solgato5186

    2 жыл бұрын

    We haven't had a good bump since th Bronze Age collapse, but that was practically yesterday :D

  • @MatthewHolevinski

    @MatthewHolevinski

    2 жыл бұрын

    Too be fair, defining time is becoming somewhat more tricky as we get better at it, or lack thereof. Apparently we are revising a ton of assumptions on geologic time because the radio carbon dating thing isn't working out all that well.

  • @robertsteinbach7325

    @robertsteinbach7325

    2 жыл бұрын

    Progress is not linear nor assured. For example, our Justice system went backwards on accommodating the mental ill when it comes to crime thanks to the Conservative political action after John Hinckley's insanity defense put him in a mental institution instead of prison for the attempted murder of President Reagan. That is just but one example. Our advanced civilization can be taken down by a solar event aimed right at Earth, frying out 98% of the electronic equipment we have here on Earth and much of what we have in space. Called the Carrington effect, first documented in 1859, it destroyed and altered telegraph systems worldwide. Or taken down by a lost Russian bomber accidently bombing Poland and starting World War 3. Either will plunge us into a new dark age. Or an election of a dictator in America that trashed the Constitution, destroying the decades of progress in making Democratic principles real in America in a matter of days. Progress can be rolled back or shattered at any point.

  • @MatthewHolevinski

    @MatthewHolevinski

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertsteinbach7325 and hopefully it will, how the hell else are you going to get over 70,000pages off the federal register

  • @tmo4330

    @tmo4330

    2 жыл бұрын

    After the flood man had to start all over again. That was the great setback that confuses the masses.

  • @sewaside6663
    @sewaside6663 Жыл бұрын

    That ''isth-MUS'' bit got me dying, totally did not expect that lmao Honestly I'm so glad I recently discovered this channel

  • @liningtheclouds
    @liningtheclouds Жыл бұрын

    i have enjoyed this videp much more than most and you have done so many entertaining and educational videos i love your channels.

  • @runedrejer8094
    @runedrejer80943 жыл бұрын

    "And the award for best transition to sponsor goes to...." 😂😂😂😂

  • @RoboticEditing

    @RoboticEditing

    3 жыл бұрын

    LTT has nothing on that transition. .

  • @aymanebelmamoune2919

    @aymanebelmamoune2919

    3 жыл бұрын

    LTTSTORE.COM

  • @MrBizteck

    @MrBizteck

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol I got wiplash from that change!

  • @ShadowDeus

    @ShadowDeus

    3 жыл бұрын

    Linus

  • @anothrdude

    @anothrdude

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bballbreakdown

  • @somethinunameit637
    @somethinunameit6373 жыл бұрын

    "Rome wasn't built in a day, in fact it took hundreds of years to steal all those ideas from the greeks." -Joe This is my new favorite quote. I'm gonna use it forever now.

  • @georgekovacs4278

    @georgekovacs4278

    3 жыл бұрын

    Although the Romans stole the majority for the basis of their civilization from the Etruscans.

  • @Gaga682

    @Gaga682

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is called lending other nation culture and ideas until lender manage to produce its own culture.

  • @BooDamnHoo

    @BooDamnHoo

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least he didn't go with "steal those ideas from Africa" or "Wakanda".

  • @uomunumerous2350

    @uomunumerous2350

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gaga682 Syncretism

  • @paulsmith-gi5vm

    @paulsmith-gi5vm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the Carthaginians from whom the romans took a western mediterranean empire.as well as agricultural, commercial and naval technology and science. kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2qfq5usc6iqprw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/YniiurhvgpPUmJM.html

  • @CarrosVeio
    @CarrosVeio11 ай бұрын

    Better than the whole series on Netflix. And way shorter. Great video man!

  • @kevintorrico2723
    @kevintorrico272311 ай бұрын

    Absolutely entertaining and informative, got me hooked; thank you! I should of been subscribed..

  • @BooDamnHoo
    @BooDamnHoo3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Silurians existed. I saw it on the show, "Land of the Lost" when I was a child every Saturday morning. They couldn't and wouldn't lie to CHILDREN!

  • @chris7brook

    @chris7brook

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sleestacks!

  • @SunRabbit

    @SunRabbit

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was a great show. Saw it in the 70s as a kid and recently watched the whole thing, all available on KZread I should add.

  • @MichaelHolmgaard

    @MichaelHolmgaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    And they even made a full-length movie in 2009! They wouldn't do that without valid evidence of Sleestacks

  • @BarackBananabama

    @BarackBananabama

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still have Holly in my heart.

  • @BooDamnHoo

    @BooDamnHoo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MichaelHolmgaard They made a movie? Where have I been?

  • @troglodyte01
    @troglodyte013 жыл бұрын

    "Will he wonder what happened to us? Or will it be obvious?" We're maniacs. We blew it up.

  • @1MarkKeller

    @1MarkKeller

    3 жыл бұрын

    “You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!”

  • @squirlmy

    @squirlmy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1MarkKeller I know you're quoting Planet of the Apes kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYSWzLKIl7XaqaQ.html but, I've always thought when seeing this scene, "eh, kinda late for that".

  • @rotlara8618

    @rotlara8618

    3 жыл бұрын

    "You finally did it!!! YOU MANIACS!!! DAMN YOU!! Damn you all to hell!!!" Charleton Heston predicted it.

  • @brucetucker4847

    @brucetucker4847

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still left the giant statue. And all the stuff in the apes' archaeological dig. Dr. Zaius knew about it the whole time, there was a conspiracy to cover it up.

  • @goldenager59

    @goldenager59

    2 жыл бұрын

    I rather imagine that by the time of this hypothetical future archaeologist that we will be quite far beyond caring one way or the other. 😏 🧐

  • @judewarner1536
    @judewarner15365 ай бұрын

    It is a common misconception that before agriculture the hunter-gatherers struggled from day-to-day to get food to survive. Game of all descriptions abounded, trees, bushes and plants covered the lands where these peoples dwelled, bearing fruits and nuts. Roots and tubers of every description grew under the earth. For most people it was a time of plenty interspersed with extreme natural disasters that wiped out whole tribes: volcanoes, earthquakes, floods, wildfires, meteor impacts, AND tribal warfare. This was the period when Gobekli Tepe was built by hunter-gatherers 11,000 years ago: no farming, no domesticated animals. Another historical booboo was the Roman time-line. The Roman Empire lasted 500 years but it was preceded by the Roman Republic, which lasted 500-700 years until Julius Caesar became Emperor. That was a continuous period of development and civilisation in which the GOVERNMENT changed halfway through. Interesting as it was, this video was a compilation of outdated, outmoded ideas and information with barely supportable speculation.

  • @ashkirsch2109
    @ashkirsch210910 ай бұрын

    Joe, you are an amazing speaker!! You really draw your watchers in!!

  • @FlamingGuitar123
    @FlamingGuitar1233 жыл бұрын

    It could be that flood myths are so widespread because most advanced agricultural human civilizations formed near rivers, lakes, and seas as opposed to drier inland areas. Once you are close to shore, events like tsunamis or storms could really affect you, and then those small localized floods inspire myth and legend worldwide.

  • @greggwallace8178

    @greggwallace8178

    3 жыл бұрын

    Australian aboriginals have flood, volcano and mega fauna stories orally handed down for thounds of years. Academics have dated the oldest of these stories to the end of the last ice age when huge tracts of the Australian continental shelf were submerged under the rising sea levels. It shows that oral histories based upon observed events can survive for at least 10 thousand years (and possibly longer). The flood stories first written down by bronze age middle eastern peoples are probably based on older orally passed on stories.

  • @carlrs15

    @carlrs15

    3 жыл бұрын

    bingo

  • @wendigo2442

    @wendigo2442

    3 жыл бұрын

    China river

  • @AlbertaGamer

    @AlbertaGamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Bible is truth.

  • @cyrkielnetwork

    @cyrkielnetwork

    3 жыл бұрын

    Flood stories are one of the easiest to made up. And people always made up catastrophic stories, becouse we like them.

  • @justincase4812
    @justincase48123 жыл бұрын

    Some graffiti on the moon's surface would be the perfect "Idiots were here, and there, before you".

  • @ob2249

    @ob2249

    3 жыл бұрын

    justincase Gene Cernan wrote his daughter`s initials on the moon in 1972

  • @ClandestineMerkaba

    @ClandestineMerkaba

    3 жыл бұрын

    The moon actually experiences quite the constant battering from Solar particles and forces. Would have to be some real hearty "graffiti."

  • @ob2249

    @ob2249

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ClandestineMerkaba It dont get more hearty than writing the name of your daughter

  • @jozefkovac6858

    @jozefkovac6858

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ClandestineMerkaba Like.. a nuclear graffiti?

  • @ClandestineMerkaba

    @ClandestineMerkaba

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jozefkovac6858 Something large, metal, angular, and highly reflective.

  • @netgnostic1627
    @netgnostic16279 ай бұрын

    The ancient Greek word we translate into "island" was also used for a peninsula or land that "stuck out" somewhat. The words Atlantis, Atlantic and Atlas have the same root. So the land of Atlantis was probably along the coast of present-day Morocco, west of Gibraltar, close to the Atlas mountains. That's what I think.

  • @jamesross1003

    @jamesross1003

    9 ай бұрын

    They also did not differentiate between water and land when talking about an island. It could have been a landlocked island for all we know(think of a plateau or on a rise like a hill or possibly an oasis in a desert).

  • @netgnostic1627

    @netgnostic1627

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jamesross1003 Interesting. We even use the word "island" that way in literature - an oasis could be described this way: "It was an island of green in a vast ocean of sand."

  • @Bell_the_Cat
    @Bell_the_Cat Жыл бұрын

    Your half-hearted joke at 2:45 was pure genius!

  • @Psych0technic
    @Psych0technic3 жыл бұрын

    As all things die eventually, it looks like the time has come for Joe's microphone. That constant hiss must be it's death knell!

  • @MrBizteck

    @MrBizteck

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol just as I read your comment I noticed the hiss....now I cant unhear ut!!

  • @Psych0technic

    @Psych0technic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrBizteck Yeah, it's pretty bad. Guess he noticed it too late in production of the video to change anything.

  • @mustafar

    @mustafar

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s still removable since it’s constant but he’d have to reup

  • @Xeno7Agon

    @Xeno7Agon

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like the hiss.

  • @SaltyMaltyMo
    @SaltyMaltyMo3 жыл бұрын

    The ancient civilization in question are called The Voth and they're currently located in the Delta Quadrant. According to the Doctor on Star Trek Voyager.

  • @zacharyharris5074

    @zacharyharris5074

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seriously tho lmao

  • @KidTreky

    @KidTreky

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @UFOCULTVHS1

    @UFOCULTVHS1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure those are sleestaks

  • @orcasin112

    @orcasin112

    2 жыл бұрын

    Loved that episode. Wish they would bring them back their one of the most advanced races in the series.

  • @butterfacemcgillicutty
    @butterfacemcgillicutty10 ай бұрын

    You used on of my favorite words ever - jagoff! Love it!

  • @enrac
    @enrac Жыл бұрын

    For that 3 million year old tool, wouldn’t Carbon dating just tell us the rock was 3 million years old, not that it was made into a tool 3 million years ago?

  • @jq747
    @jq7473 жыл бұрын

    Hunter gatherer: "I can't find any game or berries, I'll starve". Modern human: "I've only got three kinds of cheese in the fridge, I'll starve"

  • @E2O10

    @E2O10

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the use of the word "starve" is silly in modern times (in developed countries). "Ohmahgaah, i haven't eaten in 4 hours, i'm starving".. I wonder how quickly our species would die out if all the people who say those kinds of things with sincerity were thrust into the hunter-gatherer period of our past. Oh, you want food? Go chase that deer that runs ~48km/h for food..

  • @lindamaemullins5151

    @lindamaemullins5151

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @cfv1984

    @cfv1984

    3 жыл бұрын

    more like "OH MY GOD I'M GOING TO DIE ITS SO COLD I'M GOING TO DIE I'M GOING TO DIE I'M SO HUNGRohlookagiganticbearDIE MOTHERFUCKER! DADDY NEEDS SOME BBQ"

  • @thomasrebotier1741

    @thomasrebotier1741

    3 жыл бұрын

    Post-COVID human : ...

  • @RC-pz7tg

    @RC-pz7tg

    3 жыл бұрын

    You all must live in big cities lol come out to the country and we will take care of you 👍🏻we still hunt, garden, burn wood to keep warm...

  • @infidelcastro5129
    @infidelcastro51293 жыл бұрын

    “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without necessarily accepting it”. Harry Stottle.

  • @miketheburns

    @miketheburns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Harry Stottle and the Philosophy of Being Stoned

  • @infidelcastro5129

    @infidelcastro5129

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@miketheburns “Potter, young man, you are destined for greatness”. “Yeah? Well that’s just, like, your opinion, man” 😝

  • @pennyrobinson9772

    @pennyrobinson9772

    3 жыл бұрын

    Huh? It's the mark of basic intelligence.

  • @infidelcastro5129

    @infidelcastro5129

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pennyrobinson9772 It should be, yes.

  • @Ralphieboy

    @Ralphieboy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I make a large and conscious effort to try to see things through other people's viewpoints. I rarely come to accept that point of view but it often leads to amend my own.

  • @CristinaF210
    @CristinaF2107 ай бұрын

    and the crazy part is that mount rushmore has nothing to do with the REST of civilization, being from portugal i didnt know what mount rush was

  • @satta2023
    @satta20232 жыл бұрын

    Great video! But, how can we possibly assume that an ancient civilizations used fossil fuel? Is it that hard to believe that an ancient civilization, especially if they weren't human, could have discovered a completely different way to create energy?

  • @pacotaco1246

    @pacotaco1246

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah they could have hypothetically went straight to solar. Lots would be lost to hundreds of millions of years of time. There's no scientific evidence of this though

  • @MeganVictoriaKearns

    @MeganVictoriaKearns

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pacotaco1246 agree 👍💯

  • @AlecBrady
    @AlecBrady3 жыл бұрын

    "But....how could you know?" "I'm an archaeologist from the future. I dug you up."

  • @shadowbrosstudios

    @shadowbrosstudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    River song noises

  • @TheMyrmo

    @TheMyrmo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am you from the future! There's NO TIME TO EXPLAIN!

  • @garrycowan4394
    @garrycowan43943 жыл бұрын

    There's a cottage in my tiny wee village in Scotland that's older than the USA

  • @jezzaus2124

    @jezzaus2124

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lots of things are older than the USA

  • @Leon1904ffhhsus

    @Leon1904ffhhsus

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the USA Isn't a civilisation so that doesn't count haha

  • @donkeyslayer4661

    @donkeyslayer4661

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's nothing. There are houses in Danbury, Ct that are older than the USA. Danbury, on the other hand, is over 500 years old.

  • @crazybrit-nasafan

    @crazybrit-nasafan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here in Doncaster there is a wall near the town centre that dates to roman times. That even pre-dates most of my jokes. 😂

  • @Leon1904ffhhsus

    @Leon1904ffhhsus

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was in Athens once. Most da city older than Jesus.

  • @HaydenX
    @HaydenX Жыл бұрын

    I question whether Mount Rushmore would be the big key. The reason I say that is because of how long it takes for silicates, silicon, ceramics, and glasses to decompose. From what I can gather, it might take up to 2 million years for a modern CPU to decompose to a state which would leave it unidentifiable. Borosilicate glasses seem to be even more stable for the LONG HAUL. So...between a Pyrex measuring glass, pressed ceramic body armors, and PC components, I think this hypothetical future archaeologist might have a better idea of just how advanced we are than stonework. Plastics would be another key as mentioned, but much of their actual structure would have broken down within such a long time. Also...it also just seems like anything with silicon in its structure (short of silane) is pretty much guaranteed to last.

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday Жыл бұрын

    Bro, I see your Dune book in the background. I'm reading it right now, most amazing story I've ever found. I just started watching your channel a week ago. Coincidence?

  • @CountScarlioni
    @CountScarlioni3 жыл бұрын

    The Silurians in Doctor Who were so named because the human character who discovered them wrongly labelled the era he thought they lived in. The Doctor later reflects in a 1973 story that they should have been called "Eocenes" which is indeed the era of the thermal maximum. The Silurians show us a sculpture of their globe as having a Pangaea landmass and that hasn't existed for 175 million years. So god only knows when they're supposed to be from?! As a species the "Silurians" and their aquatic "Sea Devil" cousins were obsessively eco-conscious. They built their whole civilisation around a concept of harmony with nature. Their technology took on a grown, organic appearance, and they went out of their way not to damage the ecosystem. They were also big on using solar and geothermal energy sources. That would probably have worked to minimise their environmental footprint. However in real life it's almost inconceivable any intelligent civilisation could develop so cleanly. The Silurians were invented for a 1969 story of Doctor Who when the real world Earth Sciences were rather more primitive than they are today. The Silurians supposedly went into their hibernation chambers because they thought a wandering planetoid passing the Earth would severely disrupt the atmosphere. Instead that planetoid was captured into Earth orbit and became the Moon. Today that's a ludicrous tale, but in the 60s that was still a valid hypothesis for the origins of the Moon. It took the Apollo mission and the return of lunar samples to understand the shared origins of the Earth-Moon system. Despite the woeful mess of misunderstood science in the creation of the Silurians, what still bugs me most of all is that in newer Doctor Who stories, the reptilian Silurians are depicted as having boobs. What the actual &%£!? Someone clearly doesn't know what the word "mammal" means!!

  • @originaluddite

    @originaluddite

    3 жыл бұрын

    The original Silurians were awesome. I think they could have maintained that in the revived series just by keeping those masks rather than showing they had overly human faces. If anything they become _too_ easy to relate to which I feel undermines the message of the story that relating to something very different from ourselves is challenging. I'm okay with them having sexual dimorphism however - we technical never see 'boobs' on those thoroughly dressed creatures - and the notion they segregate into warrior and civilian authority groups was interesting. But I should try and get back to the topic of the video. Would a reptilian race be more likely to go for renewable resources than we have? Maybe if you are cold-blooded and recognize the value of sunning yourself on a rock then you would have a greater sense that the Sun provides power. Or is burning stuff just initially too convenient a thing to do?

  • @originaluddite

    @originaluddite

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ShaunDoesMusic both neat and bleak. :) I guess if the Silurians had in fact been from the Silurian period then definitely they would have lacked fossil fuels. But like you I cannot say how long it takes for such deposits to develop - would they have been useful by the Mesozoic? All this is definitely fun to think about.

  • @chaffychaffinch
    @chaffychaffinch3 жыл бұрын

    When I was a lot younger, I played Half-Life 2 for the first time and was just messing around in the starting level while listening to Dr. Breen give his whole speech about how humanity willingly subjugating themselves to their alien overlords was a good thing, and at one point he says: "Are all the accomplishments of humanity fated to be nothing more than a layer of broken plastic shards thinley strewn across a fossil bed, sandwiched between the Burgess shale and an eon's worth of mud?" The moment he said this line I got goosebumps, it always stuck with me because of its implications, it's a rhetorical question that we all know the answer to. The Earth will greatly outlive us and anything we have built will eventually be lost to time, and if something ever did uncover our remains, all they'd find is some plastic, our legacy for the ages.

  • @paulsletten8985

    @paulsletten8985

    2 жыл бұрын

    Humanity: we're so important Gaia: barely noticing us intensifies

  • @Monsieurlemon2

    @Monsieurlemon2

    2 жыл бұрын

    ooh 2 deep 4 u

  • @Sashazur

    @Sashazur

    Жыл бұрын

    Considering how much plastic is and will be around as a potential energy source, given enough time I’m 100% sure that bacteria and/or fungus will evolve to eat it, so not much of it will be left after humans are gone.

  • @johnstone9396
    @johnstone93967 ай бұрын

    Good channel, reminds me a little of the why files, looks like I got some binging to do

  • @tipsybottles
    @tipsybottles7 ай бұрын

    I’ve been reminded of 2 different “ancient earth civilizations” 1) The Dino race in Star Trek Voyager that escaped the asteroid hit. 2) the Isu from the Assassin’s Creed franchise.

  • @AnAmericanComposer
    @AnAmericanComposer3 жыл бұрын

    I actually subscribe to the notion that civilization is considerably longer than we presume and that there could have been prior advanced civilizations that were wiped out by geologic catastrophes like the comet hitting Greenland.

  • @anthonysaunders345

    @anthonysaunders345

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you're talking about the impact that may have wiped-out the Clovis culture, it would seem it hit central North America. Unrelated, but check out Goblecki Tepe!

  • @TheTomrader

    @TheTomrader

    3 жыл бұрын

    Graham. Meet Hancock.

  • @ricksomers9966

    @ricksomers9966

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@anthonysaunders345 Not just North America, the evidence suggest a world wide catastrophe of epic proportions. Some knowledge was clearly maintained in the brief aftermath, but all technology was clearly lost. They went for fine cuts and positioned megaliths, back to stacking stones.

  • @altareggo

    @altareggo

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only problem is that there is no solid evidence yet... YES, advanced civilizations could have existed before ours started to develop after the Younger Dryas - but we really don't have any convincing evidence yet.

  • @moocyfarus8549

    @moocyfarus8549

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a Wonderful fairytale isn't it and I subscribed to that ideology from about 5 which is when I read my first hardcover history books tell about 25 I can now as an adult appreciate the fact that we have all sorts of evidence evidence tiny evidence poop evidence shoe evidence every kind of evidence you could have for humans progression it's not very entertaining it is very slow moving but they have evidence for it,, but if solid archaeological evidence isn't enough for you look up animal domestication crop domestication and dispersal throughout the world and human genetics because any civilization that was everywhere would have mixed them things things up a long long long long long time ago but there is zero evidence of that and any little mixing are easily seen in the DNA and in the fossil record

  • @Loki_FPV666
    @Loki_FPV6662 жыл бұрын

    I've always loved this thought experiment. My thought is that it depends on your definition of "advanced." For example small city states could be considered advanced. In a 300,000 year timescale we could of had several civilizations as advanced as say the ancient Greeks or the Aztecs without ever finding evidence in the fossil record. I would say that the chances are at least plausible that humans formed some kind of settlements that engaged in trade with each other long before we thought they did. Gobekli Tepe was built 11,000 years ago and that was pretty advanced for simple hunter gatherers. Either way the answer is definitely not aliens lol. Humans are highly intelligent and extremely violent. We could have easily wiped ourselves out several times over without leaving a trace long before discovering hydrocarbons and plastic.

  • @traelmate37

    @traelmate37

    2 жыл бұрын

    i very much agree with your thought on what is meant by advanced. Many years ago, school friends and I walked along a concrete cricket pitch and speculated what the future would make of this length of concrete away from other buildings - a short runway? Surely not sporting equipment. There are examples from the ancient world all over which we think was their purpose. Egyptians, it was found using clay, grape juice and a few metals used in the period could achieve rudimentary electroplating - like gold electroplating. Meaning that what was thought to be solid gold pieces in fact weren't in many cases. But without context and written history so different and incomplete to our understanding, we are left to speculate. And the fact is that throughout modern history, we are known to be wrong on many things and regard the now as being superior than what was before.

  • @dashopepper

    @dashopepper

    Жыл бұрын

    I was wondering about the use of fossil fuels being the criteria for an "advanced civilisation" existing. Wind and water power have been used for nearly 2,000 years. If some pre-human civilisation used that to power their cities, their carbon footprint might be minimal.

  • @theadventurer2628

    @theadventurer2628

    Жыл бұрын

    And now we have nukes, so even plastics wont survive in the blast zones. All that will be left in a few million years is a thin radioactive sediment line, dozens of meters beneath the earth.

  • @StupidDumbIdiotImbecil

    @StupidDumbIdiotImbecil

    Жыл бұрын

    Y'all ever hear of Grahamn Hancock, Randall Carlson or Robert Schoch?

  • @SubduedRadical

    @SubduedRadical

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you until "Humans are highly intelligent and extremely violent". Humans are LESS violent than a lot of other species on this planet - as you point out, we COULD HAVE wiped ourselves out several times over, but haven't - and for all we know, as far as intelligent global species go, we could be one of the least violent. I've always thought it would be interesting and terrifying if we go out in to space, discover intelligent species, and Humanity became the "diplomatic species" to mediate disputes between all the others because we turn out to be the LEAST violent spacefaring species, lol

  • @richc.3100
    @richc.310010 ай бұрын

    This video is a great example of how quickly our understanding can change. We now KNOW that civilization existed way before 5,000 years ago. At least $10k+

  • @wpriddy
    @wpriddy Жыл бұрын

    You know what I cant unsee? Pharoahs being credited with the creation of engineering marvels that rival anything we could create, today, because they told someone to scratch their name into something they found. It is much like seeing a spray paint tag on the side of a building and assuming that the building belongs to the graffiti artist.

  • @cobinasaur
    @cobinasaur3 жыл бұрын

    "The Seuss Effect" *The Cat in the Hat knows a lot about ending civilizations*

  • @Cybernaut551

    @Cybernaut551

    3 жыл бұрын

    No wonder why The Cat visited those kids. He's likely a kidnapper.

  • @mouthpiece806
    @mouthpiece8063 жыл бұрын

    I’m expecting Graham Hancock to kick his way through the wall and tear a hole in the shelves behind you at some point. If he doesn’t, I’ll be very upset.

  • @sculpture_9498

    @sculpture_9498

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how you can talk about this topic without bringing him up.

  • @ferouihamza

    @ferouihamza

    3 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @connorman1993

    @connorman1993

    3 жыл бұрын

    This ^

  • @crownandguillotine6645

    @crownandguillotine6645

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was worried that I'd have to bring him up.

  • @mrrolandlawrence

    @mrrolandlawrence

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeh joe only starts 5500 bc... not on grahams billions of year pyramid spaceship / stargate etc hypothesis..

  • @TheArtistKiki
    @TheArtistKiki Жыл бұрын

    Look into Charles Hapgood's theories on crustal displacement and the research done by Mark Carlotto on ancient sites and pole alignments

  • @SubduedRadical
    @SubduedRadical Жыл бұрын

    Oh, one potential origin that you might have missed for the Flood story: Sumarians. While it's VERY debatable, it's possible that they came up from what is now the Arab Gulf. Which, at the time, would have been a river valley and possibly a lush one. As the water rose through the valley driving people out, it could have sunk a lush and fertile place and sparked the origin of Gilgamesh's flood story. While it's unclear if that was far enough back to spread to all Human corners of the world, it could be a possible candidate for that and the Garden of Eden story. Note this isn't me saying those things existed in the way that theology does. But a fertile river valley that was lost forever does sound like, over many generations, it could become a story of a paradise on Earth that Humans were driven out of by an angry God or Gods. And losing all your civilization had, at the time, known, could seem like a global flood. If you've never encountered it, check out the Fall of Civilization's KZread channel. While it isn't hard science, so don't take it as such, it is well researched and the author is good to distinguish between religion and history. The episode on the Sumerians was very interesting to me.

  • @crcurran
    @crcurran2 жыл бұрын

    A civilization could have gotten to the 18th century tech level without likely leaving evidence behind.

  • @ancientbuilds3764

    @ancientbuilds3764

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ask the Greeks... Their gearing systems were far, far more advanced than those of the 18th century. They had the worlds first computers, (Antikythera mechanism) vending machines, steam engines, automations, (Heron of Alexandria) railways... (Only one that we know of, used to pull ships over a land bridge). In many ways we already know this as a fact. Then the Romans came along.

  • @quinnherden

    @quinnherden

    Жыл бұрын

    This assumes that technology is discovered / created linearly

  • @crcurran

    @crcurran

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quinnherden That assumption does not have to be made. Industrialization pools resources in large enough batches in places that do not naturally form those resources revealing relatively advanced civilizations. Most everything else will break down after ~30,000 years, leaving not very much of anything but raw material. Unusual pooling of those materials in unnatural places would be the evidence. The order of discovery isn't necessary although it generally builds on prefor discovery but the order of application of a discovery generally is. We couldn't split the atom before harnessing fossil fuels for instance.

  • @WhiteChocolate74

    @WhiteChocolate74

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@ancientbuilds3764 well saying the Greeks had the first steam engines is a stretch. They were little gizmos that didn't do any work

  • @bielbonanygil9168
    @bielbonanygil91682 жыл бұрын

    Your narrative structure is actually supreme. These videos feel just right. Congratulations. And thank you.

  • @marcellinechoisne5627

    @marcellinechoisne5627

    2 жыл бұрын

    i agree!

  • @mylocus1013

    @mylocus1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marcellinechoisne5627 I disagree!

  • @marcellinechoisne5627

    @marcellinechoisne5627

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mylocus1013 I agree the disagrement,lol

  • @OnixMint

    @OnixMint

    2 жыл бұрын

    KZread is filled with so much false information, believing something because it “feels” right is not the way to go…

  • @WeyounSix
    @WeyounSix2 жыл бұрын

    I lost it when you used your deadpan face lmfaoo

  • @christinetracy4829
    @christinetracy48298 ай бұрын

    Super interesting as always.

  • @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
    @pressaltf4forfreevbucks1793 жыл бұрын

    Satellites that can remain in orbit for millenia: am i a joke to you?

  • @off_Planet

    @off_Planet

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Floran_Plantman yes, but the higher the orbit the longer they stay in orbit. There are hundreds of satellites up there that will last millenia. And being pitted with holes doesn't make them unidentifiable as artificial artifacts.

  • @senoctar

    @senoctar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Floran_Plantman Not geostationary satellites. Well they still get hit and slowed down. It's very difficult to tell how long they will last, but that is mostly because they will last very long. As far as we can tell they should be recognizable for millions of years.

  • @gibeomlee1997

    @gibeomlee1997

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Floran_Plantman what about stuffs humans left on the moon?

  • @olivergriffiths1996

    @olivergriffiths1996

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gibeom Lee good point. Maybe they would get hit by asteroids eventually? Not sure how common that is. I think most of the moons craters happened at once

  • @linecraftman3907

    @linecraftman3907

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@olivergriffiths1996 we put too much stuff on the moon for it to all be destroyed however it's also very spread out across the surface

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent69373 жыл бұрын

    I am sure my iron skillet will be in a museum in 10,000 years from now to demonstrate my cooking powers.

  • @markjacks3828

    @markjacks3828

    3 жыл бұрын

    cooking "prowess"

  • @michaelkaer

    @michaelkaer

    3 жыл бұрын

    No tarnishing your cooking prowess, but the iron may end up a pile of rust. Gold bars and coins would not be touched by time.

  • @QuetzalcoatlOdin

    @QuetzalcoatlOdin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Our was out a club for hunting?

  • @thisiscontent2264

    @thisiscontent2264

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markjacks3828 his original sentence still makes sense. In fact all he has to do is get rid of the in before 10,000.

  • @michellehanson984

    @michellehanson984

    2 жыл бұрын

    My grandmother's old cast iron skillet was about the only thing to survive when her house burned down in the 70's. It had to be re-seasoned but it's still going strong today. Surface like glass, eggs slide right off of it

  • @mobiobione
    @mobiobione9 ай бұрын

    I just want an explanation for the huge precision cut stones that are found underneath more modern workings.

  • @kats9755
    @kats975511 ай бұрын

    Shout out to the aboriginal folks in Australia, whose stories stretch back some 60,000 years (several of which have been scientifically confirmed through geology). Super cool to have a continuous oral tradition that old.

  • @underlord3761
    @underlord37613 жыл бұрын

    Was there an advanced civilization before humans? Graham Hancock: Allow me to introduce myself..

  • @KCJbomberFTW

    @KCJbomberFTW

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did we even check underground?

  • @ricksomers9966

    @ricksomers9966

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely my thought too!

  • @thinkbeyond3457

    @thinkbeyond3457

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly...Greenland asteroid crater = great flood.

  • @mrmcbeardy9268

    @mrmcbeardy9268

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KCJbomberFTW they did actually... and there have been altercations between underground alien species and military. Not my opinion, thats what I've heard from 1st person accounts of ex gov employees that were "on site" during such events. I recommend checking out LMH's Earth Files... She's an investigative journalist of 4+ decades, who interviews gov and military sources on weird stuff. She was the original reporter who popled the lid on the cattle mutations decades ago.

  • @mrmcbeardy9268

    @mrmcbeardy9268

    3 жыл бұрын

    i recommend searching YT for events at Dulce base...

  • @CrazyBear65
    @CrazyBear653 жыл бұрын

    11,600 years ago, bout the time of the Younger-Dryas impact event... Just saying...

  • @HeliosWrath

    @HeliosWrath

    3 жыл бұрын

    How did he miss this? It's the most common sense answer. Global catastrophe that caused worldwide flooding and likely wiped out civilizations.

  • @bigtravis6159

    @bigtravis6159

    3 жыл бұрын

    Graham Hancock knows

  • @RemixedVoice

    @RemixedVoice

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will our artificial satilites and trash still orbit around earth once were extinct? Lol

  • @crazyfist21

    @crazyfist21

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bigtravis6159 Saw a podcast with him and Joe Rogan, one of several, what they say on that podcast its pretty dam interesting.

  • @KerbalSpacey

    @KerbalSpacey

    3 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure those were humans too... read the title :)

  • @zanderwhitcroft
    @zanderwhitcroft Жыл бұрын

    Bro, you were right... New Evidence Humans Were Cooking Fish 700,000+ Years AGO!! I now believe humans are older than we know.

  • @thedirector1921
    @thedirector19215 ай бұрын

    I thought that the best we could hope for in that far-future scenario is basically the layers of radioactive isotopes would rise sharply enough during the atomic era that it would suggest a non-natural source? Gotta love how the best we can hope for is “it really looks like something was creating combustion residue and nuclear fallout during this brief time period before the climate collapsed rapidly.”

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY3 жыл бұрын

    “The further one goes, the less one knows.” ― Lao Tzu

  • @aussiegardener1773

    @aussiegardener1773

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! The more I learn the less I get it ...

  • @andrasbeke3012

    @andrasbeke3012

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Gus, don't be this crevice in my arm" --Shawn Spencer

  • @djstona5284

    @djstona5284

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted --- Sun Tzu

  • @ghost2coast296

    @ghost2coast296

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Would you like to make it a meal?" -- McDonald's Drive-Thru Girl

  • @lordofelectrons4513

    @lordofelectrons4513

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not so sure Lao was actually watching where he was going.

  • @manie.8241
    @manie.82413 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to carve gangster spongebob into a granite rock and hide it in a cast-iron box with an impossible lock for the future people

  • @andy-kg5fb

    @andy-kg5fb

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what they will make of it

  • @perso4540

    @perso4540

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andy-kg5fb they’d think it was an idol of worship. Close enough

  • @kevingreen3781
    @kevingreen37819 ай бұрын

    This is the best video so far for me and time for an update

  • @Dunybrook
    @Dunybrook9 ай бұрын

    I've always liked the idea from various science fiction books for sapient dinosaurs or reptiles that existed millions of years ago. It's fun to imagine even if we will never have proof of it.

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