Was the Bairstow dismissal against the spirit of the game? - SEN
The Ashes series has gone up another level with the latest Test ending in a controversial manner. #theashes
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@david6294 Жыл бұрын
No one has pointed out the Carey throw the ball at the stumps BEFORE Bairstow left the crease. It's a fair stumping
@carokat1111
Жыл бұрын
Yes - in one action. Caught the ball and immediately threw it at the stumps. His keeping has been brilliant.
@theillmc
Жыл бұрын
Mark Taylor did... live on the tv broadcast
@david6294
Жыл бұрын
@@theillmc Maybe but 99% of things of read and watched have failed to mention it
@onebigadvocado6376 Жыл бұрын
I didn't hear any crying about the spirit of the game when Robison was abusing Khawaja, so I don't want to hear it now.
@addamr2052
Жыл бұрын
One set of rules for the Roman slave Poms . Another set of rules for the good Aussies . The double standards Poms make up the rules as they go along .
@junk_rig_sailor1698
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like, Aussie bowlers have never ever ever ever EVER abused a batsman. You Aussies are pathetic.
@vanojoh3733
Жыл бұрын
Actually, there WAS criticism of Robinson's unsporting behaviour. He was bang out of order for swearing aggressively at Khawaja, and most English fans called him out for it. Never mind "spirit of the game" (a moveable feast, agreed), what about sportsmanship? There is such a thing, isn't there?
@onebigadvocado6376
Жыл бұрын
@@vanojoh3733 I feel like you're missing the point. Ollie Robinson said that his abuse was "Theatre" and his captain said he wasn't going to change it. While that's considered less egregious than dismissing a batsman legally, I can't take English cricket seriously.
@vanojoh3733
Жыл бұрын
@@onebigadvocado6376 Well, I think you're missing the point. It was unsporting behaviour from Robinson and, in my opinion, unsporting behaviour from the Aussies to run out Bairstow. The second had an affect on the result, the first didn't. Anyway, not going to quarrel with you mate. We have different takes on it, that's all. 🏏
@geitalew7677 Жыл бұрын
Was it in the spirit of the game when Ollie Pope did against New Zealand, was it in the spirit of the game when Bairstow himself tried it against Marnus in this very game? Was it in the spirit of the game when England's coach, Brendan McCallum did 3 times in his career, twice when people where celebrating milestones? Sorry sooky poms, get a grip.
@cqaqa
Жыл бұрын
How in lord's name can you compare the two incidents?!? Grandhomme played the ball thrown by Broad and in the process went forward out of his crease and didn't make it back in time before being stumped. Bairstow didn't play the ball and went out of his crease to talk to his teammate because he thought the ball was dead.
@stevenskliros9608
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Bodyline and pitch doctoring
@eeehan77
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who as aggregated all these recently highlighted facts into the one post. "Spirit of Cricket" has nothing to say about walking out of your crease before the ball is dead and being run out. Neither the England captain, England coach, nor Bairstow can in any conscience evoke any conversation about the Spirits of Cricket without the greatest of hypocrisy.
@nichobee
Жыл бұрын
@@cqaqatypical English semantics. Your talent for bullshit is insane!
@dovif5313
Жыл бұрын
@@cqaqayou can argue the same for every single stumping the batsman missed the ball and fall out of crease and is given out. People complaining should just learn the rulea
@theflyingdropbear2009 Жыл бұрын
No one should be upset with Alex Carey for stumping Bairstow, the one that should get the blame is Bairstow himself, not only has he been playing the game long enough, he is also a wicket-keeper, non of that excuses him for his lack of situational awareness, him losing his wicket in such a stupid manner, he has no one to blame but himself.
@mddawson1
Жыл бұрын
Especially as Bairstow attempted exactly the same thing several times during the Australian innings. Also the English coach, McCullum, has done it a couple of times during his playing career.
@christopherfranklin972
Жыл бұрын
Jonny Bairstow = The Great Yorkshire Pudding.
@theflyingdropbear2009
Жыл бұрын
@@mddawson1 we also have to remember that earlier in the game, Starc also made a mistake by grounding the ball while he was sliding, which if he was aware that he had the ball in hand and under control, he could have lunged forward, or rolled over to complete the catch against Duckett, the rules applied then, we shouldn't throw the rulebook out when it doesn't go our way. It is like that old saying "rules for thee, just not for me", then they can harp on about muh "spirit of cricket" which is an ambiguous term, that has multiple interpretations depending on the player. the whole Bairstow getting stumped has been completely blown out of proportion, and a lot of people are overreacting to a non-issue.
@DaveWhoa Жыл бұрын
Spirit of the Game exhibit A: Bairstow attempted the exact same thing by trying to catch Marnus Labuschagne stepping out of his crease two days ago. Spirit of the Game exhibit B: England coach Brendon McCullum has three instances of identical dismissals. Spirit of the Game exhibit C: Broad edging a ball to slip but refusing to walk, an edge the English quick has since admitted to. Spirit of the Game exhibit D: England keeper Ben Foakes stumping Irishman Andy Balbirnie after holding onto the ball for a far greater amount of time than what Carey did. Spirit of the Game exhibit E: The MCC long room behaved disgracefully. Not surprisingly three MCC members are now suspended. Spirit of the Game exhibit F: The crowd chanting that Australians are cheaters. Actually the only person convicted of cheating in this series is England's Moeen Ali. Spirit of the Game exhibit G: England bowling 'Bodyline' on day 4, for a record 98% short balls. Also extremely boring to watch - the opposite of so-called "bazball" entertainment. I won't add Duckett not walking re Starc's catch, because we respect that rules are rules. I also won't add England's controversial win over New Zealand in the World Cup final involving Stokes himself as there's been no shortage of comments about that.
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Lyon was on 1 leg when they were bowling those 3 hours of bouncers......Oh and he's a tail ender. Real honourable.
@dubbomarcus
Жыл бұрын
Well said, that was nearly an article.
@user-vm9di6mb5b
Жыл бұрын
@@SilentHotdog28what were they meant to do? Bowl him nice half volleys because he’s injured? If he couldn’t deal with it he shouldn’t have batted
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
@@user-vm9di6mb5b See there ya go, quick to go back the other way when it doesn't suit. I don't care what they bowl, but if you're going to bowl bouncers consistently, that isn't in the spirit of the game, so don't complain when something happens to England that may not be in the spirit of the game. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You either stick to spirit of the game or Laws of cricket, not pick and choose when it suits you. England have been doing an awful lot of sooking.
@user-vm9di6mb5b
Жыл бұрын
@@SilentHotdog28 I agree that Bairstow was right to be given out I’m just saying that’s a really dumb example… the short ball was the most effective way to get wickets throughout the game as both teams utilized this. You can’t expect a team not to bowl a certain ball because the batsmen has chosen to come out injured… by this logic it is against the spirit of the game to ever bowl bouncers at tailenders because they are less capable of playing them properly??
@domdolittle Жыл бұрын
The spirit of the game has nothing to do with it... rules are rules and that's the end of the discussion.
@jehanariyaratnam2874
Жыл бұрын
Batsmen who get bowled shouldn't be given out either because it's the spirit of cricket
@trevorscott3574 Жыл бұрын
Man, this is so much fun, you gotta love it when the Poms get done at their own game...😇
@davidratcliffe3710
Жыл бұрын
The English made the rules the same rule that denied Australia a catch suck it up !
@tonysambar Жыл бұрын
Poms are upset so I am calling it a correct decision 😂
@monashsq4001 Жыл бұрын
Ironic that a great keeper gets it so right while average bairstow gets it so wrong. & as a keeper to have the audacity to bitch and moan.
@amaledward2147
Жыл бұрын
Average? Cmon bro u are giving too much for Johny
@stevenskliros9608
Жыл бұрын
The whole of England is bitching and moaning including the England players...feminine trait
@utha2665
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure Bairstow has been bitching about the decision. It's the crowd and armchair experts bitching and moaning and not to mention Stokes' salty whine in his post match interview.
@joeblack1652 Жыл бұрын
If Bairstow, or anyone in the English side, thinks that stumping was “not in the spirit of the game” they need to explain why Bairstow was trying to do it to Marnus earlier in the match. Complete double standards. England are not putting proper value on their wicket and are being punished by the Aussies for it, this is just another example.
@guymulry6168
Жыл бұрын
The Aussies want it more!!! Win at any cost mentality. England have been too relaxed and only have themselves to blame as they've had opportunities to get on top in both tests.
@Squall_4
Жыл бұрын
The English seem to think a stumping can only happen if the keeper is up the way they are carrying on
@aawe1
Жыл бұрын
And they need to explain why Starc's catch was called non-catch.
@aawe1
Жыл бұрын
@@Squall_4 The English seem to think a stumping can only happen if they're not batting.
@joeblack1652
Жыл бұрын
@@aawe1 I’ve actually got no problem with the stark decision. I was taught you can’t grass the ball like that.
@jkjkjkjkjk537 Жыл бұрын
Broad and Baz are the last people to be talking about the spirit of the game.
@RollingEasy Жыл бұрын
Crap. Carey did what every keeper has done hundreds of times... Bairstow is the clown in this particular instance. Nothing less and Australia and Australians deserve an apology.
@williewagtail405
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! It's a stumping fair and square and Australia are copping massive criticism for just playing the game.
@JustinHH22
Жыл бұрын
Stop whinging 😂😂😂 we owe you nothing
@MediumJohnson430 Жыл бұрын
The poms are so salty 😂😂😂 but it’s a legitimate dismissal 😂😂😂
@user-ld4lk5pt1t
5 ай бұрын
But I drink English tears for every meal. The saltier the better I say.
@sebinamuwanga Жыл бұрын
The spirit of the cricket game follows the laws of the game. Bairstow left his crease and was stumped. End of story.
@julianwood6625
Жыл бұрын
Given as a stumping - get with the program.
@ray.shoesmith Жыл бұрын
100% if Careys throw had missed and gone down to long on Bairstow would have run
@thatsbollox Жыл бұрын
It was just a fair and square stumping. Some are just hoping and wanting it to be a controversy....and others are just hoping to grab some sort of high moral ground.
@hamwhacker
Жыл бұрын
The bowler threw a dangerous bouncer at the batsman’s head. That’s no very sporting. Should be a no ball and then the over is finished. But then this cheap shot to win the game. I wouldn’t pay to see this crap.
@thatsbollox
Жыл бұрын
@@hamwhacker He "threw" a dangerous bouncer ? Are you saying Green is a chucker ? I'm guessing you cant know much at all about cricket...so i cant put much faith in your assessment of what is "sporting".
@theflyingdropbear2009
Жыл бұрын
@@hamwhacker Pace bowlers bowl "Dangerous" bouncers almost every over they get, it is a form of legitimate intimidation by a pace bowler, Australian players aren't the only ones to bowl bouncers, the English pacers bowl them too, so by your logic, every so-called "dangerous bouncer" bowled by the English players should be no-balls as well. Bairstow played the ball correctly, but it was a lapse in concentration that undid him, it is his own fault that he got out.
@hamwhacker
Жыл бұрын
@@theflyingdropbear2009 Well I think there should be a new rule: no stumping at the end of the over. To stop people playing cricket like rats.
@theflyingdropbear2009
Жыл бұрын
@@hamwhacker the ball was live, the over is only declared over when the Umpire at the Bowler's rules it as such, which he did not at the time, there is no need to change the rules, because you don't like the outcome. Alex Carey was well within his rights by the rules of the game to stump Bairstow, so long as the ball is live, which it was. the one that should be blamed for giving his wicket away in such a stupid manner, is Bairstow, he showed a complete lack of situational awareness, and it cost him his wicket. Bairstow has been playing the game long enough to understand that.
@piyadushanka Жыл бұрын
Respecting the spirit of the game starts with respecting the laws equally for both teams first and foremost surely? Bairstow was out
@warrensaillard7022 Жыл бұрын
Should of made Carey man of the match
@SteveHardie42 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, my bottles of Pommie tears have become worthless, as the market is now flooded with them. At least they're tasty on fish and chips... 😂😂
@paulpiper9696
Жыл бұрын
The term 'Pom' is a racially derogative term!!!! It's not a term of affection or of endearment.... It's always said with racial affliction and as a slur. It's invariably combined with "whinging Poms" and a cornucopia of insidious comments. It's not "just good old Aussie banter and just a laugh mate.* When the Australian government fails to identify the etymology or definition.if the words 'Poms', 'Poms' or 'Pommies' but say it can be used as a racial slur in some instances sums up Australia and more importantly Cricket Australia.
@stevenskliros9608 Жыл бұрын
Smart work by Carey great stumping
@gregdownton4096 Жыл бұрын
Bairstow and England should refresh themselves with the basic rules of cricket!!
@gregoryjohn4 Жыл бұрын
The only question is was it out? Answer yes. No more discussion needed. Bairstow should hang his head in shame at committing a schoolboy error and not being aware of the state of the game.
@garydumaresq4307 Жыл бұрын
Carey made one continuous movement.
@mohammad-A927 Жыл бұрын
Great throw by Carey Jonny wouldve missed the stumps 😅
@DaveWhoa
Жыл бұрын
Bairstow did miss the stumps two days ago when he tried to do the _exact_ same thing to try to get Marnus Labuschagne out
@mohammad-A927
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveWhoa its sad he can never be better then Butler😪
@joeblack1652
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveWhoaI was about to say the exact same thing
@mohammad-A927
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveWhoa i just watched it and he missed by 5 feet 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jackdanielss Жыл бұрын
The spirit of cricket excuse is used just when convenient. It's a crock
@chadthechad4365
Жыл бұрын
Spirit of the game says to respect the umpires call
@jimmyriddle5246 Жыл бұрын
I hope the king gives Carey a knighthood
@danno1974ify Жыл бұрын
SPIRIT OF CRICKET WENT OUT THE WINDOW “A LONG, LONG TIME AGO” Ian smith
@VARMOT123 Жыл бұрын
Bharat's wearing a beach shirt in lord's lol
@Fedaltennistv Жыл бұрын
Another reason why I want Aussies to win The Ashes
@DeepakTiwari-fc7ir Жыл бұрын
I think Bairstow run out was completely fair because cary did not wait for bairstow to get out of the crease . he catches the ball and throw it straight away. Thats why he is given stump not run out . Still thinking where does the sprit of the game comes from ?
@rodsimpson3963 Жыл бұрын
out every single time...Bairstow is to blame
@raymondbabb1970 Жыл бұрын
Bairstow stood up to the stumps for Marnus with Anderson bowling to keep him in his crease. Poms are sooks.
@chrisrussell5690 Жыл бұрын
Great call Adam Collins. Somewhere in all of the noise a pretty amazing game of cricket was played.
@sagunsh9007 Жыл бұрын
Pat is absolutely right, I noticed Johny Bairstow does that and scares batsmen of runout on few occasions but in those instances batsmen were not as reckless as he had been before given out. He was constantly leaving the crease and as a professional wicket keeper he should be aware of this and be responsible in the crease. No excuses justify his negligence as a wicketkeeper. If he did the same thing, there were the same intention ie to make batsmen out but he was not as lucky. Now it happens to him and it’s well under the rule, so he is clearly out. He needs to learn from it and be careful in future particularly as a wicketkeeper and since he has tried it few times as well. Bdw, I’m not Australian fan nor English. I’m a neutral and want Ashes to be entertaining and wanted this match to be won by England. I’m a fan of Ben Stoke and Steven Smith.
@clivebroadhead4857 Жыл бұрын
What a recruit mistake. Junior cricketers have it drilled into them to keep something grounded behind the crease accept when making a run or advancing to the pitch of the ball and all going well hitting it. The batsman and facer are allows in peril of being caught outside their ground (behind the crease which extends beyond that which is marked) This wondering around, gardening or having a chat is ill disciplined, showing a mental lapse and or a lack of spatial awareness, which more often than not is punished in the game
@georgephilip641 Жыл бұрын
Why it is a controversy when it's in the rule book
@Pvtepingpong Жыл бұрын
bairstow started walking out of his crease after carey threw the ball, which was in one motion. Nothing wrong with the dismissal at all
@ykook7000
Жыл бұрын
💯
@julianwood6625
Жыл бұрын
Not true - at least be honest. Bairstow was in his crease when carey threw the ball. There's billions of videos on youtube - it's pointless trying to make out otherwise.
@Pvtepingpong
Жыл бұрын
@julianwood6625 absolutely right, I messed up my original comment, it actually furthers the point of a fair dismissal because the keeper didn't wait for him to leave his crease, he threw it, bairstow then started walking out, hit the stumps
@julianwood6625
Жыл бұрын
@@Pvtepingpong So you're saying that Carey thought that Bairstow was going to attempt a run?
@Pvtepingpong
Жыл бұрын
@julianwood6625 no. I'm saying that he threw it a split second after catching the ball, bairstow then leaves the crease after the ball is in motion. The umpire didn't call the ball dead, stay in your crease! Bairstow also attempted the same stumping for labuschagne earlier
@sweetcell8767 Жыл бұрын
This happened to me as a 13 yo in year 8 cricket. It never crossed my mind that I was hard done by. I was foolish. And I never walked out of my crease again. Woke rubbish!!!!
@ethancoster1324 Жыл бұрын
A cricket match was played at Lords it was a hoot. But an uncanny act of sporting tact soured the mood. Why did Johnny walk. He was half asleep. Is it better to win playing cruel or chivalrously? Why did Johnny walk. What was on his mind? Why did Johnny walk. Carey's not that blind. Why did Johnny walk. Was it paint on the pitch. Why did Johnny walk. Or the thought of Mitch. Why did Johnny walk. Johnny walk. Why did Johnny walk. He was half asleep. Is it better to win playing cruel or chivalrously.
@petermcguire1502 Жыл бұрын
Bairstow is always doing this obviously with the intent of sneaking a cheeky single when the opportumity arises. Bit like a sneaky backup at the nonstrikers end. This is not a one off by Jonny.
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
He also did the exact same thing to Marnus but missed the stumps. I think it was day 3.
@frebbbreeze2841 Жыл бұрын
I love how Flemmo is just "yep cool, love it" in the Background
@mis-tur-tay-bur Жыл бұрын
Long-time cricket fan and writer/editor here. The "spirit of cricket" has always been a noble lie. Think about it: when did it actually enter the game? It wasn't there at its inception when Spofforth was punching Poms on the proboscis and Grace was steadfastly staying at the wicket even after being given out. In the 1930s this elusive "spirit" of unknown provenance was being invoked by the Aussie press as Larwood tactically tore the Aussies apart at Jardine's request. For a while, bowling bumpers at tail-enders was frowned upon because it violated the fabulous spirit of the game, but this "unspoken law" was soon dispensed with if that tail-ender was presumptuous enough to flout that "spirit" and score a run too many. Once, Lindwall knocked a man out with a bouncer because he insultingly took block outside of his crease. Trueman was hardly a paragon of puritanical rectitude and was proud of it. "Mad" Jack Flavell didn't protest his sobriquet. He wanted to destroy every man be bowled at. Let's test the spirit. What exactly has been the greatest threat to it - just so we know its location? What was the boundary situation? Was it the abovementioned Bodyline series? What Jardine did was within the rules. It was mainly the Aussie press who demonised and denounced him and Larwood, using the "spirit of the game" as their high horse. Was it Vinoo Mankad in 1947-48, who noticed non-striker Bill Brown backing up too far? Instead of releasing the ball, he stopped and broke the wicket. He’d sufficiently warned Bill, having already dismissed him likewise in a tour game, yet the huffing press almost labelled it impertinence, ensuring his name entered cricket’s lexicon as a byword for dishonesty. But do you know why Mankad was so "impertinent"? Because he was sick of his own countrymen deferring to the Aussies and the English. Those who dusted off the "spirit of cricket" back then actually had their pens at the ready to criticise ANY bowling from those funny little Subcontinental people that amounted to more than a mere tribute offering. Was India's decades-old doctoring of pitches a violation of this "spirit"? What about the West Indies' real and implied threats of on-field, and sometimes off-field, violence to batsmen all over the Commonwealth when they were at their zenith? It seems that this "spirit" includes acceptable cheating. Adam Gilchrist was actually criticised by many of these same upholders of cricket's "spirit" when he decided he WOULD walk, despite being the only man on the field to know he'd nicked it. A batsman was actually somehow acting within the bounds of this amorphous thing called cricket's spirit when he never admitted he was out. It's rather indefinable really, isn't it, old chaps, this "spirit"? Honestly, Piers and Geoffrey and the Lord's members look and sound like dribbling, drivelling privileged Pommy prats when they long for a fantasy bygone era and talk about tarnishing a game that was never exempt from human nature, and ceased being some kind of pastoral idyll the moment men like Spofforth and Grace entered the scene, bringing spectators with them. 1 Reply
@paulpiper9696
Жыл бұрын
One of the oldest cases of cheating I have ever read about in the entire history of cricket was during the third and deciding Test in the 1882-3 series in Sydney, which you alluded to..... So that's my earliest recorded acts of cheating and were acted out by Australia. Australia’s number one bowler, Fred Spofforth, went to the incredulous lengths of inserting metal blades in the heels of his boots and ran down the pitch in his follow through. Cutting up the wicket from one end he then brazenly switched ends and bowled into the rough which he had deliberately caused. England were incensed: their captain the Honourable Ivo Bligh wrote a letter to his father saying Spofforth “cut up the wicket more disgracefully than I have ever seen done before” and “our fellows were naturally very angry about it.” Officially he made no complaints as he did not wish to antagonise his hosts, the Melbourne Cricket Club, who had funded the actual tour. The Australian players claimed the England bowler Dick Barlow had started this practice of cutting up the pitch during their tour of England the previous summer but this was proven to be completely fallacious and mendacious. After England won that Test in Sydney and the inaugural Ashes series 2-1 the Australians then engaged in 'heavy pushing and shoving' which was led by Spofforth. Throughout the pages of history Australia have gone far beyond the envelope and no longer understand the essence of integrity and sportsmanship. Australia aptly has the tag as the world's worst winners and the world's worst losers. And still today it's a county that refuses to even look at the toxic levels of racism that it allows to flourish ostentatiously on the pitch and in the stands.
@marilyngoldie5946 Жыл бұрын
I bet it would be okay if the English had done it to the Aussie batsman. Yeah. No question.
@ykook7000
Жыл бұрын
Yeah well if Aussie batsman was dumb enough to go walkabout they get what they deserve
@DaveWhoa
Жыл бұрын
Bairstow tried the exact same thing against Marnus Labuschagne just two days ago, he missed the stumps though
@nigelkelley3004
Жыл бұрын
According to Stokes’ false virtues he would have called the batsman back. Right!
@garybeharrie Жыл бұрын
BS.. im south african, so no skin in the game and we hate ausies more lol... but ask yourself if that ball went to the wiki keeper and the keeper missed the ball, would they have gone for an extra run or 2, not to mention giving them 4 runs if it went to the boundary? you know they would have taken those runs.. don't tell me the ball is dead. that walk off the crease was like 1 second after leaving the bowlers hand lol
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
The whole process was timed to be 0.87 seconds. Bairstow did the exact same thing to Marnus but missed the stumps.
@timp1390
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@bloodangels-sonsofsanguini7992
Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@normanphipps6237
Жыл бұрын
Howzit
@garybeharrie
Жыл бұрын
@@normanphipps6237 hey boet!
@user-up3do8yo3z Жыл бұрын
Brilliant commentary
@gurrrn1102 Жыл бұрын
Norcross took his cue from numpty Erasmus and thought it was a run out 😐
@Both-Barracuda Жыл бұрын
What the commentators failed to mention is Bairstow was still in his crease when Carey threw the ball. It wasn’t as if he waited for him to leave.
@JPASSY Жыл бұрын
Captain Cummins total respect for your great captaincy throughout 💪wow 🤩you throughly deserve hero status for your leadership, focus ,intelligence and coolness under incredible pressure 👏👏👏 Fantastic test matches so far spoiled only by bitter sore loosing supporters of the opposition that can’t handle being beaten fair and square. Lift your game crybaby England supporters especially those of you in the long room speaking about ‘the spirit of the game’ very poor and ugly ‘sportsmanship’ VERY WELL DONE AUSTRALIA(all of you)fantastic team effort and especial as well Alex Cary best keeper in word cricket 💪💪💪
@user-lw1cd8gt7y Жыл бұрын
That was out.
@peterkurg8169 Жыл бұрын
Bairstow is a goose. He did not ground his bat. He walked up the pitch like a lost goose. Carey, in one fluid motion threw the stumps down, and he is out. From SENNZ - Bairstow attempted the very same thing on day 1 v Warner and day 3 v Marnus, albeit with much less coordination that Carey. Last year England player Ollie Pope ran out New Zealand player Colin de Grandhomme in a similar way in an England v New Zealand test. Also several years ago the now England coach Brendan McCullum ran out Murali in a New Zealand v Sri Lanka test Apparently the English think you can't be out stumped on the last ball of an over.
@toddrohrlach83364 ай бұрын
Englands current coach did the same thing to England when he was playing.
@jonoheaps73525 ай бұрын
Incredible that this caused so much bitterness. Bairstow lost concentration. When you lose concentration as a batter, you tend to get out. That's it.
@pbfamous07 Жыл бұрын
collins is boss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! callled it spot on............ask yourself if a keeper was up to the stumps to a quick and the batsmen walks out of crease would you whip the bails off......cya yjb........also the guy in the colourful kit im loving, apologies for names.
@stevemurrell6167 Жыл бұрын
"It was a thing of beauty".....isn't that how the English press described Foakes disgusting 'hold the ball and wait' stumping? What a bunch of effing hypocrites.
@darkstars-torpedoes-of-truth Жыл бұрын
Cry harder England, what if Root hadn't got out? What if the top order fired, what if? You slogged your way to defeat and you have to blame someone.
@mattwarren6830 Жыл бұрын
"Whinging pommies, can't play cricket" " Whinging pommies ,always whinging" . What a bunch of hypocrites, ok for Bairstow to try it,against the spirit of the game when Australia try it, and like cricket are better at it.
@mikefriend1514 Жыл бұрын
Let’s face it what the Aussies think doesn’t matter. Its like asking a criminal whether they think they are guilty. It’s what the English players think and English fans. And I’m pretty sure they will let the Aussie players know their thoughts over the course of the next 3 tests.
@falaramal3979
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by that?
@jzkramer Жыл бұрын
Great commentary team.
@arunavabanerjee1315 Жыл бұрын
Never leave crease until the ball is dead.
@mathewaitken938 Жыл бұрын
Whinging Poms, most disingenuous hypocrites ever.
@demarshall8628 Жыл бұрын
They were waiting for the optimum opportunity to do this. The Aussie commentator couldn't get his words out quick enough! I wonder if all the Australian players agreed with this action. Sure they all did!!
@jimdickson1969 Жыл бұрын
Hypocrites. Spirit of the game bowling leg theory to the Aussies during both innings, and Starcs disallowed catch which he clearly held but was adjudicated otherwise. Where was your "spirit of the game" then?
@timp1390
Жыл бұрын
Spirit of the mcc members to be physical and verbal. They can expect to cop it next series
@jay4cee Жыл бұрын
Love this team and Triple M
@zenokada22788 ай бұрын
On here they nail it, One of the worst ways to get a wicket, no skill or advantage In that, but out means out and you have to accept it’s a fair wicket
@johnhynes7784 Жыл бұрын
So, in the country that created cricket. At the place where they make the rules. They whinge about the rules thay made.
@mohammad-A927 Жыл бұрын
Damien Flemming in the back has way better things to do 😅
@GRBAquatics Жыл бұрын
Thought this was fair enough although still a bit 'unsportsman' like). We used to play a 'Trick' in School Boy Cricket in The 1980's where I at first slip would run to Boundary pretending that Wicket keeper had missed the ball. When Batsmen ran Keeper would take then bails off. "Officially Run Out or Stumped" Worked Everytime ...... Now that was a Dodgey Play. LOL. Although I as Captain usually called the Dismissed batsmen Back. We were just playing a joke, which worked everytime.
@darrenjpeters
3 ай бұрын
Worked every time? You must have gone to a special school champ, that wouldn't have worked once at my school. We were taught to watch the ball at all times until the keeper throws it to a fielder.
@Reggie19797 ай бұрын
Was the Stuart Broad " oh yes I hit the ball and in the spirit of the game I should walk but won't because winning is everything thing and morals don't count " in the spirit of the game. POT CAN'T CALL THE KETTLE BLACK
@rorygrummisch4907 Жыл бұрын
Great wiell done mr long mr colins and flemo cheers rory
@jacobanderson1647 Жыл бұрын
Bairstow and baz are the biggest hypocrites. Baz ran out some bloke celebrating a century and bairstow does that stumping attempt every innings. Same old pommies, always losing
@waynesworld7804 Жыл бұрын
It’s a law. This spirit rubbish went with black and white tv.
@willsutton54 Жыл бұрын
if it was reversed and Bairstow runout Smith on Boxing Day at the MCG I think the Australian Crowd would have the Poms pooing in their pants
@paulpiper9696
Жыл бұрын
Yet another racist comment.
@VARMOT123 Жыл бұрын
Who is that guy to the right of Phil Walker ?
@MrKojack50 Жыл бұрын
The best decision of the whole series.
@goonerbear86593 ай бұрын
It is against the spirit of the game to make England lose
@Ididnothingwrong-dx5hn Жыл бұрын
The rule says he is out. But if this is the rule the keeper should throw the ball at the stumps after every ball. Who knows if the batter will leave his crease of lift his bat up by accident.
@acc.7953
Жыл бұрын
you don't bowl a Yorker everytime, you Bowl it when you think there's an opportunity to get a wicket.
@AliRaza-zr2ue Жыл бұрын
02:46 commentary for hearing impaired community starts from here by Uncle Mowgli.
@spannaoftruth14553 ай бұрын
You think that the people who invented the laws of the game actually knew them.
@stuartmiller7419 Жыл бұрын
Funny how a legitimate stumping isn't within the 'spirit of the game', but 'booing' the opposition for it is. Ill-informed, lagered up louts who only care about the 'spirit of the game' when it suits them. Hypocrisy in the extreme. As for the champagne-sipping silver foxes in the long room - they are beyond contempt.
@simonwhiting6929 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard anyone argue seriously that Bairstow wasn’t out. Stokes did suggest he wouldn’t want to win like that but even that I suspect was Stokes simply sticking up for his team mate in front of the media. What was he gonna say? Bairstow was dozzy and cost us the game. No of course not. All the subsequent attempts to take the moral high ground are also pretty laughable, there isn’t an international team out there that can seriously claim it.
@TopShelfOzzie Жыл бұрын
Poms are the biggest hypocrites... Whinge over everything unless they win. Go Aussies 2-0 💪😊
@anthonyc4812 Жыл бұрын
England. Making the Spirit of Cricket Great Again. Break out the red caps.
@jimmymcthunda5906 Жыл бұрын
It's the wickys job end of argument .Smart cricket .
@neilclarkson6060 Жыл бұрын
The ball is alive and it left the as soon as it was gloved. There was no time for the umpire to declare it dead. What areenglishmen now able to do whatever they wish ignoring the rules ofthe game do not forget they invented the game and rules.
@michaelhirst9220 Жыл бұрын
No matter who did what in the past. He was not trying to gain any advantage
@peterhopkins142 Жыл бұрын
Underarm bowling is also legal. Mind you 'polishing' the ball with sandpaper might be pushing it.
@brettharrison51363 ай бұрын
And this is why England is called the Whinging poms course they whing bout johnny baristow run out when he did to other players himself.
@louiselliott4878 Жыл бұрын
l want to know why stokes waited so long to use his batting ability in tjis series
@rocknral Жыл бұрын
Apart from the members at lords and the england captain himself, youd be hard pressed to find an Englishman that would be pegging stones in the glass dwelling in which they reside.
@DeepakTiwari-fc7ir Жыл бұрын
When lyon came out to bat with one leg then England also should ve bowled him slow half folly’s but they didn’t. In some way they also broke the spirit of the game . Spirit of the game is pretty subjective. Either it should be mentioned in the cricket rule book before each and every law otherwise it will always be used with convenience
@stephengreen3108Ай бұрын
Jomboy vs Bairstow sorted.
@barrycouda8481 Жыл бұрын
...It WAS in the "Aussie Winning-Sprit" of the game. They are NOT here to make friends, ...But they ARE here to win the Ashes !!! ...............LMFAO !!
@mejaz8014 Жыл бұрын
Don't question the spirit of the game, rather address the professionalism and concentration of the player (Bairstow). No controversy at all.
@dview3176 Жыл бұрын
Would he have stayed not out and won the game if this didn’t happen?
@cricketexplained8526
10 ай бұрын
No way of knowing.
@percyfree9831 Жыл бұрын
Should Johnny go for more runs
@user-lz3ic5nq1k Жыл бұрын
OHHH TIS S THE BEST.. love seeing the poms cry, Piers Morgan is gonna have a baby over this . lol lol lol
@72aakhan Жыл бұрын
Hi guys- every one is saying Stokes, Stokes, Stokes...yes he did very good BUT only for him self..he did not do good for his team..England needed the DRAW.. in the end Australia won...so..doesn't matter. It is a Test cricket, you have to win and if you can not win then don't let the other team win...He should had stayed on the wicket and save the match from Australia..He should have taken the match into draw. thats all
@Nawanda Жыл бұрын
Just like being at a Millwall match..WAWAW
@drewideas8 ай бұрын
Hey Ya All Spirit of Cricket……. What happened when Boland delivered fair ball, Crawley obviously gloved the Ball with the hand on the Bat, Caught by Carey… …… …… Crawley stands his ground….. Not Out…. The Aussies Review. result Crawley…… OUT………. So What Spirit of CRICKET……
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No one has pointed out the Carey throw the ball at the stumps BEFORE Bairstow left the crease. It's a fair stumping
@carokat1111
Жыл бұрын
Yes - in one action. Caught the ball and immediately threw it at the stumps. His keeping has been brilliant.
@theillmc
Жыл бұрын
Mark Taylor did... live on the tv broadcast
@david6294
Жыл бұрын
@@theillmc Maybe but 99% of things of read and watched have failed to mention it
I didn't hear any crying about the spirit of the game when Robison was abusing Khawaja, so I don't want to hear it now.
@addamr2052
Жыл бұрын
One set of rules for the Roman slave Poms . Another set of rules for the good Aussies . The double standards Poms make up the rules as they go along .
@junk_rig_sailor1698
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like, Aussie bowlers have never ever ever ever EVER abused a batsman. You Aussies are pathetic.
@vanojoh3733
Жыл бұрын
Actually, there WAS criticism of Robinson's unsporting behaviour. He was bang out of order for swearing aggressively at Khawaja, and most English fans called him out for it. Never mind "spirit of the game" (a moveable feast, agreed), what about sportsmanship? There is such a thing, isn't there?
@onebigadvocado6376
Жыл бұрын
@@vanojoh3733 I feel like you're missing the point. Ollie Robinson said that his abuse was "Theatre" and his captain said he wasn't going to change it. While that's considered less egregious than dismissing a batsman legally, I can't take English cricket seriously.
@vanojoh3733
Жыл бұрын
@@onebigadvocado6376 Well, I think you're missing the point. It was unsporting behaviour from Robinson and, in my opinion, unsporting behaviour from the Aussies to run out Bairstow. The second had an affect on the result, the first didn't. Anyway, not going to quarrel with you mate. We have different takes on it, that's all. 🏏
Was it in the spirit of the game when Ollie Pope did against New Zealand, was it in the spirit of the game when Bairstow himself tried it against Marnus in this very game? Was it in the spirit of the game when England's coach, Brendan McCallum did 3 times in his career, twice when people where celebrating milestones? Sorry sooky poms, get a grip.
@cqaqa
Жыл бұрын
How in lord's name can you compare the two incidents?!? Grandhomme played the ball thrown by Broad and in the process went forward out of his crease and didn't make it back in time before being stumped. Bairstow didn't play the ball and went out of his crease to talk to his teammate because he thought the ball was dead.
@stevenskliros9608
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Bodyline and pitch doctoring
@eeehan77
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who as aggregated all these recently highlighted facts into the one post. "Spirit of Cricket" has nothing to say about walking out of your crease before the ball is dead and being run out. Neither the England captain, England coach, nor Bairstow can in any conscience evoke any conversation about the Spirits of Cricket without the greatest of hypocrisy.
@nichobee
Жыл бұрын
@@cqaqatypical English semantics. Your talent for bullshit is insane!
@dovif5313
Жыл бұрын
@@cqaqayou can argue the same for every single stumping the batsman missed the ball and fall out of crease and is given out. People complaining should just learn the rulea
No one should be upset with Alex Carey for stumping Bairstow, the one that should get the blame is Bairstow himself, not only has he been playing the game long enough, he is also a wicket-keeper, non of that excuses him for his lack of situational awareness, him losing his wicket in such a stupid manner, he has no one to blame but himself.
@mddawson1
Жыл бұрын
Especially as Bairstow attempted exactly the same thing several times during the Australian innings. Also the English coach, McCullum, has done it a couple of times during his playing career.
@christopherfranklin972
Жыл бұрын
Jonny Bairstow = The Great Yorkshire Pudding.
@theflyingdropbear2009
Жыл бұрын
@@mddawson1 we also have to remember that earlier in the game, Starc also made a mistake by grounding the ball while he was sliding, which if he was aware that he had the ball in hand and under control, he could have lunged forward, or rolled over to complete the catch against Duckett, the rules applied then, we shouldn't throw the rulebook out when it doesn't go our way. It is like that old saying "rules for thee, just not for me", then they can harp on about muh "spirit of cricket" which is an ambiguous term, that has multiple interpretations depending on the player. the whole Bairstow getting stumped has been completely blown out of proportion, and a lot of people are overreacting to a non-issue.
Spirit of the Game exhibit A: Bairstow attempted the exact same thing by trying to catch Marnus Labuschagne stepping out of his crease two days ago. Spirit of the Game exhibit B: England coach Brendon McCullum has three instances of identical dismissals. Spirit of the Game exhibit C: Broad edging a ball to slip but refusing to walk, an edge the English quick has since admitted to. Spirit of the Game exhibit D: England keeper Ben Foakes stumping Irishman Andy Balbirnie after holding onto the ball for a far greater amount of time than what Carey did. Spirit of the Game exhibit E: The MCC long room behaved disgracefully. Not surprisingly three MCC members are now suspended. Spirit of the Game exhibit F: The crowd chanting that Australians are cheaters. Actually the only person convicted of cheating in this series is England's Moeen Ali. Spirit of the Game exhibit G: England bowling 'Bodyline' on day 4, for a record 98% short balls. Also extremely boring to watch - the opposite of so-called "bazball" entertainment. I won't add Duckett not walking re Starc's catch, because we respect that rules are rules. I also won't add England's controversial win over New Zealand in the World Cup final involving Stokes himself as there's been no shortage of comments about that.
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Lyon was on 1 leg when they were bowling those 3 hours of bouncers......Oh and he's a tail ender. Real honourable.
@dubbomarcus
Жыл бұрын
Well said, that was nearly an article.
@user-vm9di6mb5b
Жыл бұрын
@@SilentHotdog28what were they meant to do? Bowl him nice half volleys because he’s injured? If he couldn’t deal with it he shouldn’t have batted
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
@@user-vm9di6mb5b See there ya go, quick to go back the other way when it doesn't suit. I don't care what they bowl, but if you're going to bowl bouncers consistently, that isn't in the spirit of the game, so don't complain when something happens to England that may not be in the spirit of the game. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You either stick to spirit of the game or Laws of cricket, not pick and choose when it suits you. England have been doing an awful lot of sooking.
@user-vm9di6mb5b
Жыл бұрын
@@SilentHotdog28 I agree that Bairstow was right to be given out I’m just saying that’s a really dumb example… the short ball was the most effective way to get wickets throughout the game as both teams utilized this. You can’t expect a team not to bowl a certain ball because the batsmen has chosen to come out injured… by this logic it is against the spirit of the game to ever bowl bouncers at tailenders because they are less capable of playing them properly??
The spirit of the game has nothing to do with it... rules are rules and that's the end of the discussion.
@jehanariyaratnam2874
Жыл бұрын
Batsmen who get bowled shouldn't be given out either because it's the spirit of cricket
Man, this is so much fun, you gotta love it when the Poms get done at their own game...😇
@davidratcliffe3710
Жыл бұрын
The English made the rules the same rule that denied Australia a catch suck it up !
Poms are upset so I am calling it a correct decision 😂
Ironic that a great keeper gets it so right while average bairstow gets it so wrong. & as a keeper to have the audacity to bitch and moan.
@amaledward2147
Жыл бұрын
Average? Cmon bro u are giving too much for Johny
@stevenskliros9608
Жыл бұрын
The whole of England is bitching and moaning including the England players...feminine trait
@utha2665
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure Bairstow has been bitching about the decision. It's the crowd and armchair experts bitching and moaning and not to mention Stokes' salty whine in his post match interview.
If Bairstow, or anyone in the English side, thinks that stumping was “not in the spirit of the game” they need to explain why Bairstow was trying to do it to Marnus earlier in the match. Complete double standards. England are not putting proper value on their wicket and are being punished by the Aussies for it, this is just another example.
@guymulry6168
Жыл бұрын
The Aussies want it more!!! Win at any cost mentality. England have been too relaxed and only have themselves to blame as they've had opportunities to get on top in both tests.
@Squall_4
Жыл бұрын
The English seem to think a stumping can only happen if the keeper is up the way they are carrying on
@aawe1
Жыл бұрын
And they need to explain why Starc's catch was called non-catch.
@aawe1
Жыл бұрын
@@Squall_4 The English seem to think a stumping can only happen if they're not batting.
@joeblack1652
Жыл бұрын
@@aawe1 I’ve actually got no problem with the stark decision. I was taught you can’t grass the ball like that.
Broad and Baz are the last people to be talking about the spirit of the game.
Crap. Carey did what every keeper has done hundreds of times... Bairstow is the clown in this particular instance. Nothing less and Australia and Australians deserve an apology.
@williewagtail405
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! It's a stumping fair and square and Australia are copping massive criticism for just playing the game.
@JustinHH22
Жыл бұрын
Stop whinging 😂😂😂 we owe you nothing
The poms are so salty 😂😂😂 but it’s a legitimate dismissal 😂😂😂
@user-ld4lk5pt1t
5 ай бұрын
But I drink English tears for every meal. The saltier the better I say.
The spirit of the cricket game follows the laws of the game. Bairstow left his crease and was stumped. End of story.
@julianwood6625
Жыл бұрын
Given as a stumping - get with the program.
100% if Careys throw had missed and gone down to long on Bairstow would have run
It was just a fair and square stumping. Some are just hoping and wanting it to be a controversy....and others are just hoping to grab some sort of high moral ground.
@hamwhacker
Жыл бұрын
The bowler threw a dangerous bouncer at the batsman’s head. That’s no very sporting. Should be a no ball and then the over is finished. But then this cheap shot to win the game. I wouldn’t pay to see this crap.
@thatsbollox
Жыл бұрын
@@hamwhacker He "threw" a dangerous bouncer ? Are you saying Green is a chucker ? I'm guessing you cant know much at all about cricket...so i cant put much faith in your assessment of what is "sporting".
@theflyingdropbear2009
Жыл бұрын
@@hamwhacker Pace bowlers bowl "Dangerous" bouncers almost every over they get, it is a form of legitimate intimidation by a pace bowler, Australian players aren't the only ones to bowl bouncers, the English pacers bowl them too, so by your logic, every so-called "dangerous bouncer" bowled by the English players should be no-balls as well. Bairstow played the ball correctly, but it was a lapse in concentration that undid him, it is his own fault that he got out.
@hamwhacker
Жыл бұрын
@@theflyingdropbear2009 Well I think there should be a new rule: no stumping at the end of the over. To stop people playing cricket like rats.
@theflyingdropbear2009
Жыл бұрын
@@hamwhacker the ball was live, the over is only declared over when the Umpire at the Bowler's rules it as such, which he did not at the time, there is no need to change the rules, because you don't like the outcome. Alex Carey was well within his rights by the rules of the game to stump Bairstow, so long as the ball is live, which it was. the one that should be blamed for giving his wicket away in such a stupid manner, is Bairstow, he showed a complete lack of situational awareness, and it cost him his wicket. Bairstow has been playing the game long enough to understand that.
Respecting the spirit of the game starts with respecting the laws equally for both teams first and foremost surely? Bairstow was out
Should of made Carey man of the match
Sadly, my bottles of Pommie tears have become worthless, as the market is now flooded with them. At least they're tasty on fish and chips... 😂😂
@paulpiper9696
Жыл бұрын
The term 'Pom' is a racially derogative term!!!! It's not a term of affection or of endearment.... It's always said with racial affliction and as a slur. It's invariably combined with "whinging Poms" and a cornucopia of insidious comments. It's not "just good old Aussie banter and just a laugh mate.* When the Australian government fails to identify the etymology or definition.if the words 'Poms', 'Poms' or 'Pommies' but say it can be used as a racial slur in some instances sums up Australia and more importantly Cricket Australia.
Smart work by Carey great stumping
Bairstow and England should refresh themselves with the basic rules of cricket!!
The only question is was it out? Answer yes. No more discussion needed. Bairstow should hang his head in shame at committing a schoolboy error and not being aware of the state of the game.
Carey made one continuous movement.
Great throw by Carey Jonny wouldve missed the stumps 😅
@DaveWhoa
Жыл бұрын
Bairstow did miss the stumps two days ago when he tried to do the _exact_ same thing to try to get Marnus Labuschagne out
@mohammad-A927
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveWhoa its sad he can never be better then Butler😪
@joeblack1652
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveWhoaI was about to say the exact same thing
@mohammad-A927
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveWhoa i just watched it and he missed by 5 feet 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The spirit of cricket excuse is used just when convenient. It's a crock
@chadthechad4365
Жыл бұрын
Spirit of the game says to respect the umpires call
I hope the king gives Carey a knighthood
SPIRIT OF CRICKET WENT OUT THE WINDOW “A LONG, LONG TIME AGO” Ian smith
Bharat's wearing a beach shirt in lord's lol
Another reason why I want Aussies to win The Ashes
I think Bairstow run out was completely fair because cary did not wait for bairstow to get out of the crease . he catches the ball and throw it straight away. Thats why he is given stump not run out . Still thinking where does the sprit of the game comes from ?
out every single time...Bairstow is to blame
Bairstow stood up to the stumps for Marnus with Anderson bowling to keep him in his crease. Poms are sooks.
Great call Adam Collins. Somewhere in all of the noise a pretty amazing game of cricket was played.
Pat is absolutely right, I noticed Johny Bairstow does that and scares batsmen of runout on few occasions but in those instances batsmen were not as reckless as he had been before given out. He was constantly leaving the crease and as a professional wicket keeper he should be aware of this and be responsible in the crease. No excuses justify his negligence as a wicketkeeper. If he did the same thing, there were the same intention ie to make batsmen out but he was not as lucky. Now it happens to him and it’s well under the rule, so he is clearly out. He needs to learn from it and be careful in future particularly as a wicketkeeper and since he has tried it few times as well. Bdw, I’m not Australian fan nor English. I’m a neutral and want Ashes to be entertaining and wanted this match to be won by England. I’m a fan of Ben Stoke and Steven Smith.
What a recruit mistake. Junior cricketers have it drilled into them to keep something grounded behind the crease accept when making a run or advancing to the pitch of the ball and all going well hitting it. The batsman and facer are allows in peril of being caught outside their ground (behind the crease which extends beyond that which is marked) This wondering around, gardening or having a chat is ill disciplined, showing a mental lapse and or a lack of spatial awareness, which more often than not is punished in the game
Why it is a controversy when it's in the rule book
bairstow started walking out of his crease after carey threw the ball, which was in one motion. Nothing wrong with the dismissal at all
@ykook7000
Жыл бұрын
💯
@julianwood6625
Жыл бұрын
Not true - at least be honest. Bairstow was in his crease when carey threw the ball. There's billions of videos on youtube - it's pointless trying to make out otherwise.
@Pvtepingpong
Жыл бұрын
@julianwood6625 absolutely right, I messed up my original comment, it actually furthers the point of a fair dismissal because the keeper didn't wait for him to leave his crease, he threw it, bairstow then started walking out, hit the stumps
@julianwood6625
Жыл бұрын
@@Pvtepingpong So you're saying that Carey thought that Bairstow was going to attempt a run?
@Pvtepingpong
Жыл бұрын
@julianwood6625 no. I'm saying that he threw it a split second after catching the ball, bairstow then leaves the crease after the ball is in motion. The umpire didn't call the ball dead, stay in your crease! Bairstow also attempted the same stumping for labuschagne earlier
This happened to me as a 13 yo in year 8 cricket. It never crossed my mind that I was hard done by. I was foolish. And I never walked out of my crease again. Woke rubbish!!!!
A cricket match was played at Lords it was a hoot. But an uncanny act of sporting tact soured the mood. Why did Johnny walk. He was half asleep. Is it better to win playing cruel or chivalrously? Why did Johnny walk. What was on his mind? Why did Johnny walk. Carey's not that blind. Why did Johnny walk. Was it paint on the pitch. Why did Johnny walk. Or the thought of Mitch. Why did Johnny walk. Johnny walk. Why did Johnny walk. He was half asleep. Is it better to win playing cruel or chivalrously.
Bairstow is always doing this obviously with the intent of sneaking a cheeky single when the opportumity arises. Bit like a sneaky backup at the nonstrikers end. This is not a one off by Jonny.
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
He also did the exact same thing to Marnus but missed the stumps. I think it was day 3.
I love how Flemmo is just "yep cool, love it" in the Background
Long-time cricket fan and writer/editor here. The "spirit of cricket" has always been a noble lie. Think about it: when did it actually enter the game? It wasn't there at its inception when Spofforth was punching Poms on the proboscis and Grace was steadfastly staying at the wicket even after being given out. In the 1930s this elusive "spirit" of unknown provenance was being invoked by the Aussie press as Larwood tactically tore the Aussies apart at Jardine's request. For a while, bowling bumpers at tail-enders was frowned upon because it violated the fabulous spirit of the game, but this "unspoken law" was soon dispensed with if that tail-ender was presumptuous enough to flout that "spirit" and score a run too many. Once, Lindwall knocked a man out with a bouncer because he insultingly took block outside of his crease. Trueman was hardly a paragon of puritanical rectitude and was proud of it. "Mad" Jack Flavell didn't protest his sobriquet. He wanted to destroy every man be bowled at. Let's test the spirit. What exactly has been the greatest threat to it - just so we know its location? What was the boundary situation? Was it the abovementioned Bodyline series? What Jardine did was within the rules. It was mainly the Aussie press who demonised and denounced him and Larwood, using the "spirit of the game" as their high horse. Was it Vinoo Mankad in 1947-48, who noticed non-striker Bill Brown backing up too far? Instead of releasing the ball, he stopped and broke the wicket. He’d sufficiently warned Bill, having already dismissed him likewise in a tour game, yet the huffing press almost labelled it impertinence, ensuring his name entered cricket’s lexicon as a byword for dishonesty. But do you know why Mankad was so "impertinent"? Because he was sick of his own countrymen deferring to the Aussies and the English. Those who dusted off the "spirit of cricket" back then actually had their pens at the ready to criticise ANY bowling from those funny little Subcontinental people that amounted to more than a mere tribute offering. Was India's decades-old doctoring of pitches a violation of this "spirit"? What about the West Indies' real and implied threats of on-field, and sometimes off-field, violence to batsmen all over the Commonwealth when they were at their zenith? It seems that this "spirit" includes acceptable cheating. Adam Gilchrist was actually criticised by many of these same upholders of cricket's "spirit" when he decided he WOULD walk, despite being the only man on the field to know he'd nicked it. A batsman was actually somehow acting within the bounds of this amorphous thing called cricket's spirit when he never admitted he was out. It's rather indefinable really, isn't it, old chaps, this "spirit"? Honestly, Piers and Geoffrey and the Lord's members look and sound like dribbling, drivelling privileged Pommy prats when they long for a fantasy bygone era and talk about tarnishing a game that was never exempt from human nature, and ceased being some kind of pastoral idyll the moment men like Spofforth and Grace entered the scene, bringing spectators with them. 1 Reply
@paulpiper9696
Жыл бұрын
One of the oldest cases of cheating I have ever read about in the entire history of cricket was during the third and deciding Test in the 1882-3 series in Sydney, which you alluded to..... So that's my earliest recorded acts of cheating and were acted out by Australia. Australia’s number one bowler, Fred Spofforth, went to the incredulous lengths of inserting metal blades in the heels of his boots and ran down the pitch in his follow through. Cutting up the wicket from one end he then brazenly switched ends and bowled into the rough which he had deliberately caused. England were incensed: their captain the Honourable Ivo Bligh wrote a letter to his father saying Spofforth “cut up the wicket more disgracefully than I have ever seen done before” and “our fellows were naturally very angry about it.” Officially he made no complaints as he did not wish to antagonise his hosts, the Melbourne Cricket Club, who had funded the actual tour. The Australian players claimed the England bowler Dick Barlow had started this practice of cutting up the pitch during their tour of England the previous summer but this was proven to be completely fallacious and mendacious. After England won that Test in Sydney and the inaugural Ashes series 2-1 the Australians then engaged in 'heavy pushing and shoving' which was led by Spofforth. Throughout the pages of history Australia have gone far beyond the envelope and no longer understand the essence of integrity and sportsmanship. Australia aptly has the tag as the world's worst winners and the world's worst losers. And still today it's a county that refuses to even look at the toxic levels of racism that it allows to flourish ostentatiously on the pitch and in the stands.
I bet it would be okay if the English had done it to the Aussie batsman. Yeah. No question.
@ykook7000
Жыл бұрын
Yeah well if Aussie batsman was dumb enough to go walkabout they get what they deserve
@DaveWhoa
Жыл бұрын
Bairstow tried the exact same thing against Marnus Labuschagne just two days ago, he missed the stumps though
@nigelkelley3004
Жыл бұрын
According to Stokes’ false virtues he would have called the batsman back. Right!
BS.. im south african, so no skin in the game and we hate ausies more lol... but ask yourself if that ball went to the wiki keeper and the keeper missed the ball, would they have gone for an extra run or 2, not to mention giving them 4 runs if it went to the boundary? you know they would have taken those runs.. don't tell me the ball is dead. that walk off the crease was like 1 second after leaving the bowlers hand lol
@SilentHotdog28
Жыл бұрын
The whole process was timed to be 0.87 seconds. Bairstow did the exact same thing to Marnus but missed the stumps.
@timp1390
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@bloodangels-sonsofsanguini7992
Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@normanphipps6237
Жыл бұрын
Howzit
@garybeharrie
Жыл бұрын
@@normanphipps6237 hey boet!
Brilliant commentary
Norcross took his cue from numpty Erasmus and thought it was a run out 😐
What the commentators failed to mention is Bairstow was still in his crease when Carey threw the ball. It wasn’t as if he waited for him to leave.
Captain Cummins total respect for your great captaincy throughout 💪wow 🤩you throughly deserve hero status for your leadership, focus ,intelligence and coolness under incredible pressure 👏👏👏 Fantastic test matches so far spoiled only by bitter sore loosing supporters of the opposition that can’t handle being beaten fair and square. Lift your game crybaby England supporters especially those of you in the long room speaking about ‘the spirit of the game’ very poor and ugly ‘sportsmanship’ VERY WELL DONE AUSTRALIA(all of you)fantastic team effort and especial as well Alex Cary best keeper in word cricket 💪💪💪
That was out.
Bairstow is a goose. He did not ground his bat. He walked up the pitch like a lost goose. Carey, in one fluid motion threw the stumps down, and he is out. From SENNZ - Bairstow attempted the very same thing on day 1 v Warner and day 3 v Marnus, albeit with much less coordination that Carey. Last year England player Ollie Pope ran out New Zealand player Colin de Grandhomme in a similar way in an England v New Zealand test. Also several years ago the now England coach Brendan McCullum ran out Murali in a New Zealand v Sri Lanka test Apparently the English think you can't be out stumped on the last ball of an over.
Englands current coach did the same thing to England when he was playing.
Incredible that this caused so much bitterness. Bairstow lost concentration. When you lose concentration as a batter, you tend to get out. That's it.
collins is boss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! callled it spot on............ask yourself if a keeper was up to the stumps to a quick and the batsmen walks out of crease would you whip the bails off......cya yjb........also the guy in the colourful kit im loving, apologies for names.
"It was a thing of beauty".....isn't that how the English press described Foakes disgusting 'hold the ball and wait' stumping? What a bunch of effing hypocrites.
Cry harder England, what if Root hadn't got out? What if the top order fired, what if? You slogged your way to defeat and you have to blame someone.
"Whinging pommies, can't play cricket" " Whinging pommies ,always whinging" . What a bunch of hypocrites, ok for Bairstow to try it,against the spirit of the game when Australia try it, and like cricket are better at it.
Let’s face it what the Aussies think doesn’t matter. Its like asking a criminal whether they think they are guilty. It’s what the English players think and English fans. And I’m pretty sure they will let the Aussie players know their thoughts over the course of the next 3 tests.
@falaramal3979
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by that?
Great commentary team.
Never leave crease until the ball is dead.
Whinging Poms, most disingenuous hypocrites ever.
They were waiting for the optimum opportunity to do this. The Aussie commentator couldn't get his words out quick enough! I wonder if all the Australian players agreed with this action. Sure they all did!!
Hypocrites. Spirit of the game bowling leg theory to the Aussies during both innings, and Starcs disallowed catch which he clearly held but was adjudicated otherwise. Where was your "spirit of the game" then?
@timp1390
Жыл бұрын
Spirit of the mcc members to be physical and verbal. They can expect to cop it next series
Love this team and Triple M
On here they nail it, One of the worst ways to get a wicket, no skill or advantage In that, but out means out and you have to accept it’s a fair wicket
So, in the country that created cricket. At the place where they make the rules. They whinge about the rules thay made.
Damien Flemming in the back has way better things to do 😅
Thought this was fair enough although still a bit 'unsportsman' like). We used to play a 'Trick' in School Boy Cricket in The 1980's where I at first slip would run to Boundary pretending that Wicket keeper had missed the ball. When Batsmen ran Keeper would take then bails off. "Officially Run Out or Stumped" Worked Everytime ...... Now that was a Dodgey Play. LOL. Although I as Captain usually called the Dismissed batsmen Back. We were just playing a joke, which worked everytime.
@darrenjpeters
3 ай бұрын
Worked every time? You must have gone to a special school champ, that wouldn't have worked once at my school. We were taught to watch the ball at all times until the keeper throws it to a fielder.
Was the Stuart Broad " oh yes I hit the ball and in the spirit of the game I should walk but won't because winning is everything thing and morals don't count " in the spirit of the game. POT CAN'T CALL THE KETTLE BLACK
Great wiell done mr long mr colins and flemo cheers rory
Bairstow and baz are the biggest hypocrites. Baz ran out some bloke celebrating a century and bairstow does that stumping attempt every innings. Same old pommies, always losing
It’s a law. This spirit rubbish went with black and white tv.
if it was reversed and Bairstow runout Smith on Boxing Day at the MCG I think the Australian Crowd would have the Poms pooing in their pants
@paulpiper9696
Жыл бұрын
Yet another racist comment.
Who is that guy to the right of Phil Walker ?
The best decision of the whole series.
It is against the spirit of the game to make England lose
The rule says he is out. But if this is the rule the keeper should throw the ball at the stumps after every ball. Who knows if the batter will leave his crease of lift his bat up by accident.
@acc.7953
Жыл бұрын
you don't bowl a Yorker everytime, you Bowl it when you think there's an opportunity to get a wicket.
02:46 commentary for hearing impaired community starts from here by Uncle Mowgli.
You think that the people who invented the laws of the game actually knew them.
Funny how a legitimate stumping isn't within the 'spirit of the game', but 'booing' the opposition for it is. Ill-informed, lagered up louts who only care about the 'spirit of the game' when it suits them. Hypocrisy in the extreme. As for the champagne-sipping silver foxes in the long room - they are beyond contempt.
I haven’t heard anyone argue seriously that Bairstow wasn’t out. Stokes did suggest he wouldn’t want to win like that but even that I suspect was Stokes simply sticking up for his team mate in front of the media. What was he gonna say? Bairstow was dozzy and cost us the game. No of course not. All the subsequent attempts to take the moral high ground are also pretty laughable, there isn’t an international team out there that can seriously claim it.
Poms are the biggest hypocrites... Whinge over everything unless they win. Go Aussies 2-0 💪😊
England. Making the Spirit of Cricket Great Again. Break out the red caps.
It's the wickys job end of argument .Smart cricket .
The ball is alive and it left the as soon as it was gloved. There was no time for the umpire to declare it dead. What areenglishmen now able to do whatever they wish ignoring the rules ofthe game do not forget they invented the game and rules.
No matter who did what in the past. He was not trying to gain any advantage
Underarm bowling is also legal. Mind you 'polishing' the ball with sandpaper might be pushing it.
And this is why England is called the Whinging poms course they whing bout johnny baristow run out when he did to other players himself.
l want to know why stokes waited so long to use his batting ability in tjis series
Apart from the members at lords and the england captain himself, youd be hard pressed to find an Englishman that would be pegging stones in the glass dwelling in which they reside.
When lyon came out to bat with one leg then England also should ve bowled him slow half folly’s but they didn’t. In some way they also broke the spirit of the game . Spirit of the game is pretty subjective. Either it should be mentioned in the cricket rule book before each and every law otherwise it will always be used with convenience
Jomboy vs Bairstow sorted.
...It WAS in the "Aussie Winning-Sprit" of the game. They are NOT here to make friends, ...But they ARE here to win the Ashes !!! ...............LMFAO !!
Don't question the spirit of the game, rather address the professionalism and concentration of the player (Bairstow). No controversy at all.
Would he have stayed not out and won the game if this didn’t happen?
@cricketexplained8526
10 ай бұрын
No way of knowing.
Should Johnny go for more runs
OHHH TIS S THE BEST.. love seeing the poms cry, Piers Morgan is gonna have a baby over this . lol lol lol
Hi guys- every one is saying Stokes, Stokes, Stokes...yes he did very good BUT only for him self..he did not do good for his team..England needed the DRAW.. in the end Australia won...so..doesn't matter. It is a Test cricket, you have to win and if you can not win then don't let the other team win...He should had stayed on the wicket and save the match from Australia..He should have taken the match into draw. thats all
Just like being at a Millwall match..WAWAW
Hey Ya All Spirit of Cricket……. What happened when Boland delivered fair ball, Crawley obviously gloved the Ball with the hand on the Bat, Caught by Carey… …… …… Crawley stands his ground….. Not Out…. The Aussies Review. result Crawley…… OUT………. So What Spirit of CRICKET……
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