I'll never forgive bringing Cortana back from the dead to become a female AI austrian artist.

@RoyalFusilier

11 ай бұрын

Honestly it's even more wild that they resolve the conflict with her between games. Frog is right about that becoming a central 343 problem.

@ok-bj8un

11 ай бұрын

The concept of bringing an old friend back far away and a journey getting to them only to have them betray you afterwards could have worked but it was executed poorly in this case

@deifiedtitan

11 ай бұрын

@@RoyalFusilier343 has a terrible track record of making these huge plots that simultaneously don’t have the content needed to meaningfully fill them and don’t get enough time to resolve them in the game. Halo 5 begins and ends outside of the game. It’s terrible storytelling.

@KalleNoble

11 ай бұрын

I'm starting to wonder if they only killed her off so they could replace her with a clothed version to get the T rating and expand to a wider audience.

@darkspark5854

11 ай бұрын

@@KalleNoble They were pretty desperate to make everyone like the weapon, so it's very likely. What pisses me off is how many people fell for it. It was so blatantly obvious. And the fact that everyone wanted things to go "back to the way they were" just proves how unimaginitive halo fans can be sometimes. Cortana being evil was clearly meant to have a redemption ark. But no, she huwt ouwa feewwings. Somtimes you just gotta let the writers cook. The exact intent isn't always clear right away.

Honestly, the hunt the truth advertising killed my respect for this franchise. It seemed so cool and got me so hyped only for it to not even be in the game

@devynlich00

11 ай бұрын

Honestly they could have easily pulled off this exact same plot line and done it ten times better with noble 6

@MarioLeCarre

11 ай бұрын

I no longer play Destiny 2 - I am having too much fun playing all the 'good quality' games I missed out on while I was a 'slave' to the Destiny 2/Bungie forever grind machine. Bungie management quote that sums up so much. "We would rather put out four pieces of 5/10 content per year, than one piece of 10/10 content per year." So, Destiny players know that mediocre content is the business model for Bungie. How good is that? Bungie are corporate whiners that have a factory mentality, their business model is all about logistics/costs/time. Wow, that's not a recipe for fun times for players. Keep grinding lads the Bungie machine needs to be fed.

@devynlich00

11 ай бұрын

@@MarioLeCarre and that mentality came right after they left Microsoft here's the thing about Bungie there's two distinct Era's the golden age from Ce to reach, and then the era that they when full corporate and didn't even bother with Polish

@buddyolly7008

11 ай бұрын

That podcast is way better than it has any right to be

@wintereclipse3263

10 ай бұрын

​@@MarioLeCarreDunno why you brought up bungie or destiny out of nowhere but here's my own response. Bungie after they left joined Activision. Activision basically had them change up their game to fit their vision. Game launched then they had to work on a ton of dlc this caused bungie employees to leave left and right and Activision kept replacing em. Destiny 2 launched and old bungie employees were becoming an endangered species and by forsaken basically all of old bungie was gone and replaced. The bungie of now is basically just a child of Activision that split off wearing the name and skin of Bungie.

Can’t imagine a time where people were mad while playing as the arbiter 🗿

@Rautt_

11 ай бұрын

Fr like halo 2 was like 2 campaigns in one bruh 😂

@ATP2555ify

11 ай бұрын

@@Rautt_ It was large too, and was supposed to be even larger. If 343 made it, half of that shit would've been in a book.

@Will_Forge

11 ай бұрын

@@ViolentDefender Yeah, same. Trust me guys, the forums and friend groups had their Arbiter haters. My older brother was one. He hated the Arbiter missions so much he wanted us to skip them after the first playthrough. It was probably why we hardly played H2 and H3 together compared to CE. I played the hell out of them, but he was barely more than a one and done player. H3 had playable Arbiter but only in 2 player, and he insisted on playing through single player only. But he'd still go back to split screen CE with me, because it was about Arbiter. Anyway, those people are/were stupid. Especially my older brother.

@Brannon1009

10 ай бұрын

People were mad about that and the way it ended but they redeemed it in retrospect with Halo 3.

@aurum6501

10 ай бұрын

@@jrizzledrizzleYou can literally go to metacritic right now and find reviews from 2004-06 complaining about it

As someone who obsessively read all of the lore books and stuff when I was younger, pretty much the ONLY good thing about Halo 5's story was that awesome moment of "HOLY SHIT I'M ACTUALLY FIGHTING WITH BLUE TEAM???"

@Someone-lg6di

5 ай бұрын

First thing that angered me in 5 was how they killed jul mdamma since he had alot of buildup in the books as well

@DisDatK9

4 ай бұрын

@Someone-lg6di same. Its like it has moments where it respects the books in a nice way, but then just decides to shit on them for no reason other than to seemingly piss readers off

@thecatfather857

4 ай бұрын

@@Someone-lg6di In Spartan Ops too.

Fun fact. You can skip the last triple warden fight by taking the grav lifts on the side of the arena, while you are on them, initiate a ground slam on the piller in the middle as you fly over. If you land, jump, boost and hover for the extra distance over to the exit door and you can leave without needing the platform to drop down after the fight. Makes legendary absolute pittance

"i saw cortana" "thats crazy, lets go blow up the station" 😂

Always wanted to know what a Frog thought of Halo 5

So.. never played 5 (Or infinite) - Just seeing the fact they brought back Cortana as a antagonist left a sour taste even without playing the game. Not that 4 was a masterpiece of storytelling but the Cortana rampancy thread culminating in her protecting Chief after years and years of Chief doing the same for her was nice and a good sendoff of the character. Does Infinite expand upon it at all?

@DerCharacter

11 ай бұрын

Infinite sort of sweeps it under the rug and you are dealing with some of the fallout of the created conflict, and a new enemy. So it’s a bit of a course correction

@dominicperini6271

11 ай бұрын

"Does Infinite expand up it at all?" Hahaha, that's funny.

@-rayzer--wolf-6474

11 ай бұрын

in a word yes but its rough its just obvious they needed to write around this plot thread so its a compromised resolution more detail bellow read more in short all the cortana stuff in infinite is flashback/recording style on something that happened off screen and we find out only in bits and pieces as we get through the campaign, she kinda gets a do over to go back to her halo 4 ending that she does need to protect the chief but its not elegant and ultimately proves that bringing her back in 5 was a mistake theres a new AI called the weapon and the weapon is an exact copy of cortana created by halsey but the weapon doesnt know that (which becomes relavent to the weapons character arc) and theres this friction that comes from the weapon being chiefs new AI and chief being unwilling to trust the new AI after what happened with cortana the camapign overall is trying to soft reboot the franchize and is very modern take of Halo CE vibe thing but it has a rough spots as a result of all the crap that came before that didnt work needing to be paid lip service

@deifiedtitan

11 ай бұрын

It doesn’t. You see Chief coming to terms with it via The Weapon (literally just a new Cortana). Cortana is defeated offscreen before the game happens. Infinite isn’t a bad game, as it stands. It’s just got enough assets for 3 levels that it stretched over a meaningless open world. The core gameplay of Infinite is genuinely good and if they introduced a new biome after the first couple of hours rather than expecting us to care about Escharum over and over again it could’ve been great.

@zavagezealot1187

11 ай бұрын

Honestly, introducing the weapon was cheap. Should have just had no ai for one game.

Halo 5 MP was very different, but very fun, but the campaign was the most unremarkable thing i have ever played

@HS_Rick

11 ай бұрын

H5MP was hella good, i loved the amount of weapon/vehicle variants.

@zippo71111

11 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed the MP, didn't have high expectations at first but i had fun with it. Played it a lot more than i thought i would. Didn't play it much at release but the updates, throwback playlists and arena modes made it damn fun. Firefight warzone was also enjoyable. A bigger campaign with more of the covenant from firefight would've probably made the campaign more enjoyable if they included more levels and removed some of the unnecessary ones. Might be a controversial take but it's one of the more memorable MP experiences I've had in the last 5+ years.

@YodaOnABender

10 ай бұрын

Halo 5 is frustrating because, no matter how okay the campaign is, you always know in the back of your head that we could’ve had something amazing if the game was like the marketing

@lego1999100

10 ай бұрын

@@YodaOnABender whatchu mean ok? the campaign was hot fuckin trash lmao

@Isabelle-mp8rk

8 ай бұрын

the multiplayer had the whole care package fiasco though or whatever they were called

Honestly having a Halo 6 that followed up on 5s campaign and actually resolved what the fuck happened to Cortana (most people seem to think the version that exists in 5 is a corrupted fragment from the end segment of Halo 4 that escaped instead of helping Chief fight the Didact) would still be appreciated. Even post Infinite.

@jinxysaberk

4 ай бұрын

my assumption is they were planning to make it so cortana lost her mind from the rampancy and saw that the only way to save the universe was to rebuild it but that really is only based on the fact i don’t think cortana ever got rid of her rampancy she just injected some into the ship i think a dlc with cortana echos could give us a solid answer but i honestly think we’re more likely to see halo 7 than them backtrack to the most hated game

@cristian143222

3 ай бұрын

I was hoping infinite would take place right after 5 and would have paid off

@ParkerRat

16 күн бұрын

I would really appreciate seeing something resolve from 5. At this point, I've decided that old Halo should stay in the past. The series needs to move on from its roots and experiment with new concepts. Halo 5 was a decent, though poorly executed, place for that to start. I just wish Infinite didn't try to sweep it under the rug like it was hiding something shameful.

I think that being forced to have squadmates in every mission becomes exhausting very, very quickly. I don't wanna have other characters speaking to me every five seconds, and sometimes being alone helps the player feel more immersed in the world.

@gordonneverdies

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree with this. I hate being forced to play with NPCs. I love the few games that will allow you to send them somewhere and they'll just stay there the whole time.

@bobdylan1968

11 ай бұрын

People had been begging for years to bring back blue team to be fair. People wanted the whole squad thing. It was one of the things praised in fact.

@FrancisBurns

11 ай бұрын

You know what! you are right!! I did love the lone wolf missions or seccions in other games!

@ShadowDragon-cw7wb

11 ай бұрын

Not to mention the horrible AI they came with! I think there shoulda been some missions with blue team and some missions with Chief alone like Halo 2 did.

@nobudarsai9675

10 ай бұрын

Agreed that was one of my criticisms of Reach, I could not stand noble members being with me on any mission, they felt either in the way or annoying by taking my kills; so as soon each started getting taken out one by one I rarely had any emotion.

something that's always bugged me is that the prologue cutscene they added to halo 2 anniversary is really peculiar in that a lot of it is from an "in-progress" version of 5 like all the elites have their H2A/classic designs, including the arbiter (despite him being turned into one of the new elite subspecies in 5), and one of locke's spartan buddies is a completely different character with a unique design, they even hint at a different plot for the most part, it's just weird to me that they'd seemingly have every bit of promo material from a part of the game that was eventually scrapped or rewritten entirely

@Nighterac

11 ай бұрын

Buck was originally Thorne from Spartan Ops but nobody played that

@kylershahalami6453

11 ай бұрын

They did that in H2A's opening and outro cutscenes because those were the assets Blur had on station for rendering. It's the same reason the Marines in H2A's cutscenes have the exact same armor and weapons as the Marines in Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2. If you watch carefully, you'll notice in HW2 that they only show the Battle Rifle, H2 Magnum, and Shotgun. Aside from the Banished weapons and new character designs, it was almost all just reused H2A and HW1 assets.

@slayerofdarknssdmt9697

11 ай бұрын

The trailers for 5 were litterally going to be false advertising because the story never actually called for Locke and chief to fight at all They had to add that fight scene in for legal reasons so they wouldn't get sued by angry players but it still turned out like shit because blue team goes through the portal and Osiris just sits there like "now what?" It would have been better for blue team and Osiris to just duke it out there 4v4 but nope cause that would be too much animation time for a scene that wasn't supposed to be in the game Maybe it was planned to but it never needed it and ended up being forced

@EthanRom

11 ай бұрын

@@Nighterac Honestly tho buck being added to Halo 5 was one of the greatest fan service in Halo

@nobudarsai9675

10 ай бұрын

This was the problem with H5, too many hands and ideas in the pot and we got this awful narrative. If I remember correctly don't quote me but initially H5 was going to be Locke searching for Chief because he disappeared unknown reasons, then it changed Locke hunting chief cause he's turned on UNSC after he discovers some ONI b.s. and with a emperor Palpatine looking Didact as the villain, then it changed again to what we got now.

With one of the mancannons and the spartan crash ability you can actually skip the triple warden fight which makes legendary a lot less terrible

@bobdylan1968

11 ай бұрын

Legendary isn't bad with teammates. The squad system is rather good. The campaign itself is not bad. The story isn't even bad. It's just not AS good as the rest. Which isn't the same as being bad.

@zalabit927

11 ай бұрын

​@@bobdylan1968💀

@Will_Forge

11 ай бұрын

@@bobdylan1968 He said on Legendary. On Legendary it is absolute dog shit. Going down and returning to last checkpoint was a perfect punishment for dying. Going down and having to watch your 3 AI companions slog right across enemy fire, go down one by one until the last one barely makes it, only to find out their AI Nav-mesh doesn't extend to literally 20% of the map geometry is a dog shit campaign. I always hop into Halo on Legendary first, and that one was a slog of an experience. Barely worth the time it took to play, and even then only to get a slightly better understanding of the game's events than you'd get watching all the cutscenes on KZread like a TV show before going into Infinite's masterpiece of a campaign by comparison. Anyway, I'm glad Halo appears to be out of that darker age.

@mauz791

10 ай бұрын

Interesting, it wasn't that bad imo. I just armed the brain-dead Blue Team with binary rifles and incineration cannons from the previous area, and it only took a couple of tries. The most important thing is worrying about yourself, saving the horrible teammates is unnecessary 👍

@unisect9106

10 ай бұрын

@@bobdylan1968 Thats coping. I love Halo 5's campaign but I know a bad story when I see one. Even on my first run-through, i saw the plotholes before I even watched the reviews. The story isn't good at all and its pacing is off as well is its desired atmosphere. But at least they have cool campaign scenarios.

I played 5 a year after it came out, I couldn't tell you one thing I could remember from it other than Locke's and Chiefs awful fist fight

@commandermckoolkid818

11 ай бұрын

Played Halo 5 with all my buddies two years ago, all we did was talk shit about the game. I legitimately can't remember the majority of the game.

@mikeb620

11 ай бұрын

@@cailemkostiuk377 same

@mikeb620

11 ай бұрын

@@commandermckoolkid818 yep, I remember more from infinite. It was sort of a let down but it was a better game than 5 imo

@TruePacifist201

11 ай бұрын

I played the campaign once, pretty much right after I bought it, and that was it. I tried a second playthrough but couldn't bring myself to keep playing after, I think, partway through the second mission.

the Osiris spartans had a decent amount of characterization in the allied spartans' combat barks... which you never hear, because 343i couldn't figure out how to implement radio for it, so if your spartans travel away from you on these massive levels that encourage you to climb up really high, then you can't hear them at all even when the chatter in question is gameplay-relevant, like when a squadmate goes down and needs a revive anyway buck and vale had some endearing combat barks that hint at more about them. vale, for example, has combat barks that wouldn't sound out of place coming from an elite. she's not just the group's translator; she's like a weeb for sangheili, and the idea, at least, is adorable

What killed Halo 5 for me was the enemies disappearing from a distance like I cant explain it just when you zoom in on a enemy far away they would vanish also they would look choppy

@elliotjohnson9415

11 ай бұрын

I never noticed them disappearing, but they did drop to 30fps at a distance, which is why they looked choppy.

Halo 5 was such a weird game. Because of how the enhanced mobility impacted level design and AI behavior. Most missions felt more like Destiny raids/COD shooting galleries with ranged rifles, ADS and drawn out firefights than proper Halo levels.

I personally think evil cortana could have been great, especially if masterchief spent an entire game chasing after her and trying to talk her out of it, only to realize that the real cortana is really dead, and that the evil cortana is just an overgrown subroutine, a remnant, a pale imitation. it could have had a powerful message about moving on from loss and the falacies of obcessing over the legacy of a dead loved one. Relatedly I also take no issue with Masterchief passing the torch, but it needs to be well explored, as there is tons of fertile ground in a living superweapon who saved humanity multiple times having to learn to let go, both of the comrades and friends he lost, and of the constant suicide missions that once gave him purpose

Kinda bummed this game never came to PC. Even if it’s maligned, it’s still the only Halo game I’ve never played.

@INFILTR8US

11 ай бұрын

Same!

@deifiedtitan

11 ай бұрын

It’s not worth playing, you genuinely missed nothing.

@equinox6392

11 ай бұрын

@@deifiedtitan The multiplayer is 100% worth playing. If they added it to pc, made it cross platform, and added mouse and keyboard support on console, I would be playing it over infinite rn

@Ghostman223

11 ай бұрын

​@@deifiedtitanThe multiplayer was decent, forge was fantastic. It is worth the play and imo, it's ridiculous to say "It's not worth playing" because of all the other side content they added. It is certainly worth playing at least once, except the story. That doesn't deserve any playthrough. Forge and multiplayer though was it's best part.

@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother

11 ай бұрын

@@deifiedtitan You missed the fu ck out on multiplayer then. Its the last time Halo was good in the last 10 fu cking years. RIP bro truly. Actual feelsbad.

Halo 5 is what made me start looking into halo lore cus I was confused who everyone was lmao

Okay, but hearing the Halo theme play during The Breaking will always be a great moment in this game. Edit: And correct me if I'm wrong, the last time the Halo theme had played in a mainline game was during the Warthog Run at the end of Halo 3. I think it was absent in ODST, Reach, and Halo 4.

@rubysvnhalo

11 ай бұрын

there was a small peek of the halo theme in the second half of 117 from the halo 4 ost but its only a short reference and kinda hard to notice if you werent paying attention

@Bizargh

11 ай бұрын

Technically, it came back as part of Cortana's theme for Halo: Reach ('Say The Words', or 'Keep What You Steal' as it was heard in Halo 3, but I think Martin O'Donnell had his name for it that I can't relocate, even in the archived Inception videos) & ODST had Combat Evolved's 'Rock Anthem for Saving the World' hidden as part of the 'Deja Vu' Vidmaster Achievement/Challenge. Halo 4 did get a cover of 'Never Forget' in the form of 'Never Forget (Midnight Version)' arranged by Kazuma Jinnouchi for the Staff Credits (Which have not survived into The Master Chief Collection), but I don't believe that contains the Halo theme itself. Again, technically. Unfortunately, I don't see it as a plus in Halo 5: Guardians' favour, as if the only defining moment of the game's soundtrack is "We did Marty & Mike's beloved theme", that speaks rather unfavourably about the rest of the game's original music, although I do get why many would feel that way. Take it on an individual track basis, I'd say the music can be good in it's own right (A proper shame 'On Deck' was siphoned off as a digital bonus that I don't think has ever come back via current releases, 'cause that's about the only sincere delight Warzone Firefight ever gave me), but taken as a whole, it can be one repetitious beast (Lucas Raycevick's 'Halo 5: Guardians - One Year Later' does a better job speaking on my behalf). I don't necessarily blame composer Kazuma Jinnouchi for it, either. From what was reported about the Campaign's development cycle, it just sounds like he might have had nothing more than vague or general ideas to work with, assuming they didn't change on the fly or that he wasn't simply told "Just throw a string orchestra at *everything* as that's what Halo's music is, isn't it??". Although I for one actually have a lot of appreciation for some of Neil Davidge's work on Halo 4 ('Requiem', 'For Armour', 'Arrival' & 'Green and Blue' such examples), you can't deny that Kazuma Jinnouchi was absolutely standing out with such pieces as 'Mantis' & '117', so while I can't pinpoint Kazuma Jinnouchi's prior works (I do recall that he was among the Metal Gear Solid 4 & Peace Walker music teams), I do not believe it was due to a lack of talent nor imagination that his work on Halo 5: Guardians suffered in terms of distinction or character (I think I only bought the soundtrack as 'Blue Team' included the tearjerker from the initial scene of Halo 4's Epilogue, which was also confirmed to be a Kazuma Jinnouchi composition). I'm honestly not trying to rain on your parade, though. For all that the Halo 5: Guardians Campaign missed the mark on, it didn't stop Kazuma Jinnouchi & the performers of the Orchestras from giving Martin O'Donnell & Michael Salvatori's work some honourable arrangements.

@sodium7127

11 ай бұрын

The Halo theme plays when you briefly see the ring in Halo 4

@Bizargh

11 ай бұрын

@@sodium7127 That's true, too (The introductory cutscene for 'Composer' while gazing upon Installation 03, just to be specific for anyone else reading). Thanks for reminding me. I really don't know how that one slipped my mind.

@sodium7127

11 ай бұрын

@@Bizargh I don't blame you, the theme was only playing for about 3 seconds iirc

i literally just binged ALL your videos yesterday and then you drop this. i feel targeted...but i don't mind. thanks for the great content!!

I never understood the criticism the Halo 2 Arbiter/Covenant levels got. I loved them back then just as I do now. They told an interesting story and I quite like the character/s involved. Halo 5 didn't tell an interesting story in the "other perspective" in my opinion, and I didn't really care for the characters involved.

@dubstepXpower

10 ай бұрын

Same first 3 and reach are so good

@ATP2555ify

10 ай бұрын

Proof that 343 can't do a multi protagonist story

@chad_bro_chill

6 ай бұрын

@@ATP2555ify "343 can't do ... story." Fix'd.

For the next video, you should review Halo Infinite’s campaign

@deepwinter6799

11 ай бұрын

I'll save you time, it's mid, and we can only say it's better than 5 and on par with 4. It can't hold a candle to Reach, ODST, 3, 2, or CE.

@beartackle

11 ай бұрын

​@@deepwinter6799But I want to hear how it is from a frog's perspective.

@beartackle

11 ай бұрын

@empirednw6624 I beat the campaign back when the game released, and, yes... it wasn't really memorable. I remember wondering where those animals from the trailer were and why there wasn't a variety of landscapes, making it feel like I'm repeating missions. There were some fun times, especially experimenting with the grapple, but this is just average for me. LOL, I remember when co-op was released and my brother and I tried it in the hardest difficulty level. 2 missions in, we were bored and forgot about the game. Maybe if the release split-screen, we will do it, but that's likely never to happen.

@lupusebrius

11 ай бұрын

​@@beartacklehow would splitscreen change anything about the coop if you got bored of it two missions in? That just seems like you complaining about a feature that is obsolescent with how much more affordable consoles are nowadays.

@beartackle

11 ай бұрын

@@lupusebrius It's always been fun playing with your buddies next to you. That's why I host game nights with my friends. Sure, we can play online, but it doesn't beat the experience playing with my buddies, drinking good stuff, eating junk food, and just enjoying each other's company. You complaining to me about it reminds me of after I visited Cape Town, and my friend's father said he can just see pictures of it online, so there is no need to travel. While that's true, it doesn't beat the experience of being there, hiking up Table Mountain, and enjoying other people's company. In other words, just doing things online isn't always the best option.

Halo 5 had an identity crisis. I felt like it was trying to hard to be something it wasn’t

I’ve been playing a good bit of Halo and have been watching lore vids a lot. Came across your stuff and I enjoy your vids a lot. Keep up the good work.

Thank you for finding the "king of halo" comment, that's hilarious

I finished recently and it wasn't like, the worst game ever made. It's not my favorite campaign or anything but it had a couple moments. Being able to see Sangheilios in-game was cool and I liked sunaion. It was also neat seeing blue team in the game even if it was only for like 3 missions Tbh I'm a lore hound now so I liked the references to stuff but i get criticisms about halo 5 kinda needing it

Frogarchist: hey everyone I'm a frog Peter griffin: huh ne said it he said it!

Awesome video, Frog. And dope Agalloch reference too lol, that caught me off-guard

I was expecting a Frawg video and got exactly what I was hopping for. 🐸

If you ever go back into 5 on Legendary, keep in mind you can assassinate the Warden: During his final bit of health, he widens his stance and draws a new sword. During this animation, or anytime after, you can assassinate him to save some bullets. 3 animations: Standard: On the ground, hold melee: Dash past the Warden, spinning him around then use him as a meatshield and repeatedly stab. Very high cover doing so, because Warden is so big Aerial: Jump or fall onto his back while holding melee: Roots the Warden in place, using him as cover and delivering multiple stabs. Longest animation for him to actually "die" to Alternate: When near a ledge, slope or cliff and the game deems the angle is worthy, whilst holding melee: Break the Warden's leg, jump up and plunge the knife, ending the fight instantly. Shortest animation to register his death (Literally 1.5 seconds after you drop off his body he dies) Will save you ~2 clips of standard weapon, 1 clip of power weapon ammo on average. Do NOT use a Binary rifle against Warden, doing so causes a glitch that makes him have a "forcefield" that rapidly damages and pushes you back because 343 makes perfect games!

In the process of playing all the halo games in correct order. Just finished odst and I’m a few levels into 3. Find your videos because of it. Good stuff. Subbed 👍

Dunkey made an incredible point about how 'loud' the visuals in the game are. 'Is that an enemy or a lens flare?'

Funny enough Halo 5 has my most hours played and holds a special place in my heart. It was the first Halo game I ever owned myself (grew up playing the classics with friends in split screen) and my first Xbox I got the Halo 5 SE Xbox one that I saved up my own money for. It was a huge accomplishment for me and a big part of my childhood.

@zhamtyy

10 ай бұрын

when I bought halo 5 and didn't really know a lot about the community, I always thought that EVERYONE liked the game as much as I did. I lived the game but then I learned that a lot of people didn't. Nevertheless I still love it.

@ONIrepresentative

4 ай бұрын

I personally really like halo 5 too

....I think I actually have that book shown on screen somewhere. I used to read a lot of the Halo books because I enjoy the lore of the series, but I could never really get into the Promethean related ones. Fall of Reach is epic, though, and I like the post-Halo 3 books about Naomi and Halsey.

i love the level where you are running down the guardian and headshotting crawlers on your way down

Wasn't expecting the Agalloch reference

One thing I definitely disliked the most was as you mentioned, if you didn’t read a book or watch or play something else, you have no idea what’s going on and it really takes you out of the story and makes you less invested. The original trilogy was a complete story. From beginning to end you knew what was going on as it’s a direct continuation and if you wanted to know more about a certain part you could do that with books

This was a very well thought out video with excellent observations towards both the story and gameplay elements of Halo 5. I touched on a number of these elements in my own video and agree with most of your points. Excellent video and loved the jokes too 🙂

@frogarchist

6 ай бұрын

Thanks, I liked your Nak3dEli interview

The halo 5 and infinite story were so confusing to me because I had no idea what was going on because it all relies on you reading and doing other stuff so it made the game unfun and a chore to try and figure out what was happening

I’m more disappointed that halo infinite skips all the stuff halo 5 setup with us meeting up with Halsey and the arbiter in the end. Imagine getting to play the events in between 5 and infinite and seeing Halsey arbiter and chief work together and seeing some sort of dialog between Halsey and evil Cortana. But instead we got a boring open world halo game where we’re just learning about what happened instead of playing it.

@PANCAKEMINEZZ

11 ай бұрын

Considering that 343 don't know how to write characters, it's for the best we didn't see it. It's a shame they were so bold to make Infinite's crappy campaign.

@iskoconquers

11 ай бұрын

They knew we hated Halo 5 campaign and thought.... Soft reboot, but get the most popular thing from Halo Wars 2 and make em fight Chief

Halo 5's campaign was a good idea but it was just so poorly executed and without checking out the expanded lore of Halo it gets very confusing while the latter issue didn't affect me as I usually check out expanded lore I'm just speaking on behalf of those who don't... thanks a lot Brian Reed (Halo 5 Lead Writer). "I can't imagine what it's like on Legendary." Oh believe me Frog I went there when I beat this on Legendary back in 2019, I died so many times during that fight that I lost count.

@Will_Forge

11 ай бұрын

I did the same. Never played the game before. Finally went into it on Legendary in preparation for Infinite. Shit was a slog. The AI is what killed it for me. From shitty enemy AI that feels just lame to fight like the soldiers and prowlers, to the ally AI that doesn't even have a Nav-Mesh as complete as the same enemies mentioned before. The enemy jumps up to a slightly higher rock you're on and downs you. Then your allies have to revive you because that was a mechanic they decided to add for no reason. Then your allies can't reach you because they can't also jump up onto the same slightly higher rock? Terrible. Just truly awful. I only enjoyed the first MC missions, and then hated every other one as they had increasingly terrible AI encounters. Warden Eternal was just a dingleberry on the top of that shit sundae.

@Will_Forge

11 ай бұрын

Oh right, I typically forget to mention one heavy critique I have about the game, so I'll add it here. The campaign was written as a chase, and then a rush to save everyone, which means from start to finish you're always narratively hurried along. This is a very fine way of storytelling, but there was an issue. To encourage this, by the way, the characters in the game are made to constantly run behind the scene timers that the moment you don't get to the next objective they will chime in with an annoying little reminder "we gotta get to the [blank] before [blank] [blanks] the [blank]". Again, this is a mechanic that has been known to be annoying since the day Navi first said "Hey, listen!" in Ocarina of Time. But again, just a minor annoyance and a fine way of trying to rush the player along in a game that's meant to be a race to save the world. The issue comes into play the moment they took the Halo formula's 1 secret item on each mission, 1 terminal, 1 or 2 data pads, and expanded it to 5+ hidden items! Why in the name of good game design/writing would you every add more exploration to a game that you yourself you wrote to be a rush of a story? Why would you then add in a mechanic that annoys you the moment you spend 15 seconds not heading to the next objective!? It's just bind numbingly stupid! The game designers that made that game were amateur hour, and this coming from someone who isn't even a professional myself! Sorry, that one is one that strikes a nerve due to how often the characters nag. Just thinking about it makes me want to chew the lead designers out.

Halo 5 + Amazing gameplay + Beautiful graphics that hold up to this day + Very polished + The gunplay is probably the best in the series - The story (my god...) - It's too short - Locke is.. well, Locke - The emphasis on co-op. Why waste energy and resources on it and not make a longer and more compelling story? The game is a product of its time, when Xbox made a lot of strange and outright bad decisions, and it shows. But the game is still a lot of fun and has a lot of good qualities, despite the (HUGE!!!) flaws. I would give it a 3/5, or 6/10.

The multiplayer has always been fun for me. But since I am not exactly good at multiplayer it was always nice to fight in war zone

A fun fact: As my first time playing Halo 2 was Co-op, Player 1 & me both missed out on The Heretic & The Armoury, so that was effectively our introduction to Arbiter. Nevertheless, we still got his meeting in The Mausoleum before we later realised what we had missed, so it still wasn't as abrupt as anything Halo 5: Guardians throws at you. And speaking as somebody who did invest in the additional media heavily until some time after Halo 4 (I began to stop caring after then, particularly as it's use of it as excuses for business, PR or design decisions became far more obvious), even I was left puzzled by some things such as "Wait, why is Buck a Spartan?" (I got told about the book and bloody hell, no amount of course correction that it got is going to make me want to), "Who are these two ladies in Fireteam Osiris?" (Vale at least had an interesting biography from the outset) and "You're just going to wrap up Spartan Ops right here & now?", especially as early prototypes showcased a Fireteam Osiris without Buck, almost hinting that maybe the Recruit-armour-wearing Thorne from Spartan Ops might be the familiar face and that they either were "Pulling an Arbiter" or they late-in-development felt the sudden need to service fans (And if you ask me, they shouldn't have even bothered considering that H5:G gives Nathan Fillion far too few opportunities at best to inject any amount of personality into his role). I remember thinking about the 'Waste of Time Filler' missions as taking a page out of Wolfenstein: The New Order's in-between mission safehouse moments (The game had released more than a year prior to surprising critical acclaim), but there are reasons why I got emotionally attached to those whereas I reckon Halo 5: Guardians just does nothing more than waste your time: - Wolfenstein: The New Order uses it as relief from missions that can be very intensive (At least thanks to Mick Gordon's music) if not lengthy due to how quiet or loud you may play them. Unless you're playing Halo 5: Guardians above Normal, you probably don't need that - Wolfenstein: The New Order uses them as time for you to get to know it's cast & the outside world, if not tell smaller stories within them. Halo 5: Guardians mostly just uses it to tell a few cheap or even rotten jokes (The 'Do Not Open' audio log is one such case of "This could've been hilarious if the writers actually knew the audience for this joke or 343 Industries wasn't trying to so densely force upon appeal for the relevant character that did not exist largely by design") if not make a few references - Wolfenstein: The New Order hides various secrets, including a whole Wolfenstein 3D level in the form of a "nightmare". As far as I am aware, Halo 5: Guardians just has Audio Logs & the aforementioned jokes to find in them (I'm told more "Mythic" weapons can be found, so perhaps my dissatisfaction with Halo 5: Guardians, even after two Co-op playthroughs with two friends, just lead me to not bother "trinket-hunting", especially as what trinkets I did find could even end up discouraging me from bothering). It's a lot of bother over them, perhaps, but coming off of something that did so much for me, it just perhaps boggled my mind that Halo 5: Guardians couldn't do more with them than to make me & those I played it with mostly just mock it. I do concede that Wolfenstein: The New Order doesn't give you much options of skipping them besides "Just do the primary objective", but I think they earn their place far more sincerely than Halo 5: Guardians manages to. I've often said that while Halo 4 is something of a mixed bag across the board, Halo 5: Guardians has unmissable sections of quality where you can see where the developmental priorities lied. And I'm sure this is something of a tiresome verdict, but the Campaign ended up close to the bottom of the list (Maybe Theater got the actual bottom of that list), especially as there are reports that the direction for it never largely came together to the point that even the soundtrack suffered as a result (I think the short version is that those originally on the Spartan Ops team had to take over after departures of staff key to Halo 4's direction, and composer Kazuma Jinnouchi may simply not have had clear-cut material to make anything as characteristic & distinctive as he managed for Halo 4 with such companions to Neil Davidge's work as 'Mantis' & '117'). Very long story short; Halo 5: Guardians has a Campaign I call "frustratingly bland".

first vid ive ever seen and i have to say the intro is a 10/10. "hello, ima frog. HALO IS PEAK"

My biggest gripe with Halo 5's campaign is the fact that if Master Chief just decided to go to a planet on his own orders, what is the UNSC/ONI going to do, stop him? He's done more for the entirety of humanity than the entirety of humanity and honestly deserved some time to himself, especially when the man who Chief saved as a Cadet sends other unreliable Spartans to kill the man that saved him. Chief also seems to have a lot more freedom of movement in the UNSC and the military so Chief just visiting a planet because he thinks Cortana is there is well within that freedom of movement he has.

@Specter_1125

4 ай бұрын

Chief doesn’t actually have that much freedom of movement in the grand scheme of things. When he’s boots on the ground, he has a large degree of autonomy, but other than that, not really. If he’s on the deck of a UNSC ship, he’s supposed to do what he’s told.

Halo 5’s campaign truly is ALRIGHT. Not bad, just disappointing considering what came before. Great video, earned yourself a sub!

@xx_luigi_xx7223

11 ай бұрын

aren't you supposed to be drawing

@bruhgod123

11 ай бұрын

halo 4s campaign was trash tho

@Will_Forge

11 ай бұрын

@@bruhgod123 No, it was also okay. At least it wasn't filled with so many bugs and terrible enemy/ally Ai, and bad level design decisions as H5. And it has a great tank/mantis level. And it introduce the mantis. I really truly don't like H4, by the way. I'm just explaining why it's mid rather than terrible. Also I rebel against the slang of "mid" meaning the worst thing ever. It came first from calling it "middling tier". That's not terrible by definition. Can't justify that slang nonsense.

@bruhgod123

11 ай бұрын

@@Will_Forge for a matter of a fact the ally ai is terrible and also the lighting is so fucking bright and the prometheans are unbalanced as hell you cant tell me an enemy that teleports and spawns enemies to revive it right after it dies is fun to fight theres only 3 viable weapons in the campaign because ammo almost doesnt exist and thats the boltshot suppressor and lightrifle all of which are copy and pasted

@wintereclipse3263

3 ай бұрын

​@@bruhgod123 Halo reach launched and people found it a downgrade in quality so it was hated. Halo 4 launched and took what made Reach good and threw it out while keeping the bad so 4 became the worst and Reach was now a decent game. Halo 5 came out and took what made 4 bad and made it worse and took the good and threw it out so people now looked at 4 as a decent game and 5 as the worst. Infinite came out and people initially loved the initial promise and it took what made 5 good and kinda kept it and took the bad and seemed to be throwing it out.....Only for people to now want the bad from Halo 5 because somehow just like Activision with Overwatch they made the req packs (Loot boxes) look better than the new f2p micro hell. Btw they keep increasing the price whenever they listen to the community. Community asked for cross core and they said "Alright....But in return any item added to cross core will be increased in price!" with an armor set almost being a full price game at this point (About 30 dollars where I live for an armor and 60 for a game) and the bundles being almost 100 dollars. They somehow make Destiny 2 look less greedy and hell the original plan was to do a yearly PAID dlc just like Destiny they only stopped because they didn't have the resources to do so and believed in the original vision they had with 5 in that Halo should be competitive and so they focused all their effort onto the pvp. Also the operations are so annoying. A single buy season pass where buying 1 gets you all of them was fine still annoying with the fact it takes about 200 matches to complete a season but whatever I guess but the new "Operation" passes are literally the same price for less content and you don't get enough for another pass as far as I can tell (I think you get half of your stuff back meaning you need to buy 2 to get 1) btw these are temporary meaning if you don't buy them they're gone forever. You know the one thing they had over D2 being that fomo with seasons wasn't going to be a thing like how they did with mcc. Now it's fomo.

That Glassed mission bit is actually so eye opening. When you stated that it took you fifteen minutes to beat all I could think of was “really it only took that long to meet and talk to Sloan?”.

Jul Mdama should have been a boss fight instead of him being killed in the first mission. IN A CUTSCENE.

I’d be curious to hear your review after playing on legendary.

The scattershot has tracking after it bounces. Its actually a lot cooler than you'd think!

Men great video, u got a new sub and i didn't finish it yet lol

Being a long time Halo fan, I've had this conversation multiple times with many friends and random gamers over the years. Most people have at least two of three issues with playing as Locke: 1. It's a mainline Halo game (not a spinoff like Reach and ODST), so it should be focused on Chief. 2. You play as Locke for a whopping 12/15 missions. They should've done something closer to an even split like Halo 2 did. 3. Like you said, Locke (and tbh all of Fireteam Osiris minus Buck) is boring. Couple that with the marketing that makes him look awesome and it's an even bigger let down. If the last two of these three issues were fixed, people would still complain as Halo fans are known for doing, but it'd be much less so than what we ended up with.

Yo. An Agalloch reference? Not something I ever expected in this video

I'm happy to hear a review that takes a slightly more optimistic approach to things, like how you were describing you generally enjoyed the experience of playing and the environments. There are lots of times where I'll watch a movie thinking it was enjoyable, only for reviews to say it was the worst thing ever, without appreciating the little things that make it at least entertaining. That being said, Reach is my favorite Halo, ODST was a super fun experience that I saw more as a DLC, and I played the first level of Halo 5 and instantly "Noped" out lmao.

I hate those walk-and-talk missions. What kind of shit is that? They could've used those mission slots to let us play as the Arbiter.

Would you ever do a video on the modding scene? I would love your takes on Rebalanced CE, Halo 2 Uncut, and Halo 3 Evolved.

@frogarchist

11 ай бұрын

I thought about doing a vid where I cover a bunch of different mods, yeah

Another vid yezz sirrrr!!!!!

I liked the Halo 5 campaign. The fact that it ended on a cliffhanger is what killed it for me.

@Goofballhero

4 ай бұрын

_That’s_ what killed this mediocre campaign for you??

@tylerchristensen1484

4 ай бұрын

@@Goofballhero yeah, pretty much.

You had me at the Agalloch reference

Mfs should be sued for the advertising alone. That ad was complete bs can't believe I got suckered so hard.

Halo 5 was one of the first games I ever really played back when I got my first xbox. I loved it. Genuinely got me addicted for a good while. I didn’t really get the story, but I learned I’m more of a gameplay guy overall. So I would just have fun screwing around.

weve finally got around to the point in the halo cycle where people are so fed up with the current game they revisit the most hated game in the series and realize it wasnt as bad as they thought. Happens for every game since 3

@frogarchist

11 ай бұрын

I prefer Infinite so no

I just recently played halo 3 with some friends and I gotta say it really lives up to its expectations (a flawless game that was forged by the gods themselves) 😂

@ILoveMoms445

6 ай бұрын

Halo 2 campaign, at least story wise, is infinitely better

@Albert_EGGsker

6 ай бұрын

@@ILoveMoms445 I think we can both agree we have our own opinions 💯💯💯 (they both have arby so they’re both alright with me)

Appreciate the Agalloch shout out

I actually liked the detective levels where you walk around and talk to characters, though I feel like it was once part of a much cooler more expansive idea. Sanghelios is still the best selection of missions in the game.

There are no Hitscan weapons in the original trilogy. In Halo 2 you can reduce the actual speed of the projectiles of Human weapons and the Battle Rifle specifically and at longer ranges you have to lead your shots. The problem with OG Halo 3 is that the BR feels a lot more inconsistent in MP.

it's like Jen Taylor made a contract saying she has to be the main character in every Halo game and 343 have to somehow come up with some stupid reason why she's a primary character still

What's funny is when I first played Halo 2 back in the day, I totally skipped that cutscene and was left incredibly confused.

Halo is just so great as a series, that the worst game by far still is pretty ok and enjoyable

@RotoMiner

5 ай бұрын

Ehhh I personally don’t think Halo 5 is enjoyable. Every good decision they made is bogged down by several bad ones attached to it.

Bro this video is actually goated

Tbf, if we didn’t have those walk and talk missions we would’ve missed out on the Palmer love poem.

So glad I watched this video. You just put out a Legendary Halo Guardians video that I started to watch when I realized I never watched this one. Pretty much every Halo 5 video I've watched makes it seem like it's the most god awful thing ever seen so I've just stayed away but I'm glad I watched this and look forward to what you think playing the game on Legendary. But even if you hate it on Legendary, I think I'm convinced the next time Guardians goes on sale for $5 that I'll pick it up. For a major Halo fan like me it seems worth it.

I actually had really liked the story and finale of Spartan Ops and was really excited to see them continue that in Halo 5. Then...it's immediately wrapped up and completely insignificant after the first mission. The fact that *none* of the spartan characters were used from that series as the squadmates was also just a huge miss, especially when they were setting up Thorne to have that 'spartan ideology.' It could've been interesting to see him bounce off Osiris, and just created more interesting scenarios than the complete lack of any interactions. Buck was a cool ODST character to and he was just completely under-utilized, I don't care if he's a Spartan now the guy was just there as the punching bag/goof ball, it was so sad ;n;. The first two missions were like introduction scenes without any substance. They brought forward the two teams but really establish very little. Having Team Majestic (the spartan op team) work parallel to Osiris and effectively mission 3 being the first could've made the Chief's actions mysterious and secondarly given that awkward slap fight a bit more meaning as the extra spartans from Majestic and even Osiris could've split up and we get tenser, character driven interactions between the now split groups of spartans. I wasn't a fan of Halo 5 if you can't tell lol.

@Johnspartan296

5 ай бұрын

That's what 343 does best. Abandon unfinished story arcs in their next game.

For some reason I want him to fake a speedrun, with the sole reason, that he then could start his apology video with "Hello everyone, I'm a Fraud." xD

I remember when the game first came out and I fought the warden for like the 3rd time I looked up how many more times I'd have to fight him. I stopped playing the campaign after that

I have a liking for frogs who review video games.

4:52 that was literally me as kid I had not clue what was going on cause I would just skip them every time

3:28 TO BE FAIR, BLUE TEAM APPEARS AS EASTER EGGS IN PREVIOUS GAMES, Heck, LINDA IS ON HALO C.E. ANNIVERSARY & SHE IS THE 2° PLAYER ON COOPERATIVE MODE

I recently played halo 5 campaign again myself. And I thought it was pretty damn fun

I was late to the halos franchise but I heard about how much everyone hated halo 5. Than I played it and actually liked it? I did, and still do. Most of the hate towards the game seems to come down to petty fans. Though I wasn’t there for the false advertising, I’ve seen it and frankly I think it’s time everyone got tf over it. The game itself is fun, the story is a bit messy and the walking around and talking to people levels is completely pointless, but other then that I had a good time with it. There were definitely things that could have been improved about the story. Locke for one thing, there’s nothing bad about him, he just needed a real character ark. If he had been introduced in halo 4 as a minor character it greatly would have benefited his character. Warden Eternal still has tons of potential as a character and I genuinely enjoyed the boss fights because he fascinated me, so I tried to get as much dialogue out of him as possible to figure out what his deal was. He acts like Cortana’s overprotective dad but I felt there was more to him. Halo infinite introduced the endless and I was sure Warden was some of them, and he might even appear in infinite maybe as an ally against them but I’m not surprised that he didn’t. Cortana was easy to fix. I had no problem with her being evil in Halo 5 as I assumed she was being manipulated by some other force in the domain like Mendicant Bies and that Cortana would be redeemed but halo infinite decided to off her in the lamest way possible instead.

@metronome8471

5 ай бұрын

Locke is supposed dead also.

So weird that this is still the one game that is locked to the console it was released on.

Did i just witness a black metal reference in a halo 5 video? Edit: wow, he legit put up Allogoch in this video. What a madman, i love it

8:50 you made me remeber how much I hated the hornet

My biggest gripe with Locke is he was referred to as “Agent Locke” until Halo 5 launched and then he was “Spartan Locke.” During the advertising I was convinced that Locke was an ONI operative hunting down Chief and the game was going to go into a few story points about ONI and the Spartan II program (given Halsey at the beginning of Halo 4). Sadly the story was okay.

i started playing halo for real when halo 4 came out and it was my first halo experience (aside from watching and occasionally playing CE when i was like 7) where i’d play it all day every day with my family and our family friends having halo parties and all nighters and such… so im kinda biased but i didn’t know anyone hated 4/5/Ininite when i started playing them and i always loved Halo as a whole so i just assumed they were good lol. Ive since played thru all but infinite on legendary and i think they all have a unique vibe to offer

I liked having variety of weapons regardless if it was "just a shotgun" and this kind of criticism is why Halo: Infinite has few classic weapons.

Idk why but that intro made me laugh "Hey everyone, I'm a *frog*"

Glad this frog has given his opinion on Halo 5. Would love to see his take on Halo Infinite! Anyway, I have to hop off now. Byeeeee

4:44 that was so stupidly hilarious

This video didn't make me homesick, it made me halosicc 😭 had fantastic moments on H5MP

Agalloch reference, very nice

“Uhhh….boring… wait what the f***?!” I died 😂

Cool fact, every Halo game has had projectile weapons. The difference was the bullet velocity, Halo 3's was significantly slower than CE ane 2's.

Wasn’t a fan of the campaign, but I’ll never forget my first reactions to seeing supernova and lawndart for the first time

Yeah five was weird I played on legendary and it has the same problem of four of sending way too many enemies because there is four of you but your squad can't climb a small ledge to help you and it has the opposite problem of halo 4 with its level lengths were I feel like most of them are way to long (don't believe me look at the par times for them vs ce, reach, or 3) 5s are super short. But yeah, it's fine. I originally hated the cortana twist, but that's more cause of the writing. It probably needed to set her up earlier, but I'm happy with infinite and excited to see where they take the story.

Halo 5 was the first game I ever played on my Xbox when I was 11 and I loved it, sure the game may be lacking in story but it was just FUN and that’s what really mattered to me. Now that I have played all of the halo games including infinite I can say that it was the worst but I still think it’s a cool game and I still love it no matter how stupid it is. (Also the Arbiters armor was awesome and one of the best variations IMO).

Can confirm...the last Warden Eternal fight on Legendary is absolutely miserable.