Warm Roof Extension - Part 3 fitting flat roof rafters
In this episode we fit the rafters and explain our method of trying to keep the fascia depth to a minimum
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@trevordarby467 Жыл бұрын
Great to watch good tradesmen doing the job properly looking forward to the roof video
@ianbradley9838 Жыл бұрын
I recon Mick is on his phone buying some safety goggles to wear when he’s using that grinder !😂
@DICEGEORGE
Жыл бұрын
He's got a spare eye ...
@thisismossop
Жыл бұрын
No seriously, get some safety glasses, please guys.
@tonymcroberts3252 Жыл бұрын
When you cut the rafter tails to a line you could set the line 44mm back from your finished length then rip a piece of timber down and stitch it on the ends of the rafters which will give you a fixing point for your plywood and will be more solid behind your fascia detail, good video by the way lads
@russmcfadden-pb7or Жыл бұрын
Brilliant workmanship as per lads👍🏻
@TheNorthernmunky Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Rich, good tutorial and yeah fascias on warm roofs can be too big, good way to disguise that.
@kilcool017 ай бұрын
Great job in explaining
@paulshanley4222 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting never saw this type of roof before looking forward to next video
@rayhall4578 Жыл бұрын
most people think all builders are rip off tossers, but yous are spot on, theres always a valiid reason behind what you do
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words Ray. We believe that showing everything we do on the channel even the mistakes helps maintain a good working relationship with our customers and our theory has proved to be correct so far 👍🏻
@ooslum Жыл бұрын
There must be a rule of the Universe that no matter how much bench space you have, it is never enough, cheers lads.
@keithkench9432 Жыл бұрын
All the new regs on insulation are good if it's a new build, but i can't see the point if a house of that age or older don't match what's being added, i think there should be some leaway based on the age of the property, bearing in mind how expensive these new regs add to the cost.
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more Keith sometimes it all seems a bit of a nonsense but what can we do other than comply 🤷👍🏻
@TheJbrinks
2 ай бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 hello fellow tradesmen...i am a lobbyist. im here to stop your from doing anything until i get my pound of flesh(money). dodgy regulations that make no sense but cost a ton.....THANK ME
@daveparsons6956 Жыл бұрын
Top stuff fellas.
@therealdojj Жыл бұрын
Gumball 3000 means the kids are getting in the way of my usual Sunday afternoon in getting of KZread so I'll catch this tomorrow now mate
@dav3o Жыл бұрын
An interesting denomination of a ton there ;)
@Moochein Жыл бұрын
Loving the content ❤. New Subscriber 🎉😊
@daibolical8532 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻 Happy days with the cladding, at least you don’t need to put in a cavity tray at the roof abutment.
@davidholmes6882 Жыл бұрын
Will you not get thermal bridging from the timber rafters being under the roof insulation and through the brickwork? Good video btw I've subbed :)
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Hi David and thanks for subscribing. We won’t get thermal bridging mate no. 👍🏻
@samsungcrossland2036 Жыл бұрын
Looking good 👍
@Doug.... Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanations Richard 👍 Dislike that thin sheeting on the house. I think even MFI wardrobes were sturdier than that 😂
@m0aze611 Жыл бұрын
PPE please guys. 👍🏻 Regards Mike
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Sorry Mike hopeless aren’t we. We promise to try harder next time 😉👍🏻
@Baddad36 Жыл бұрын
Enthusiast amateur and forgive possibly a silly question. Why not timber frame? Would it not be quicker? And is there not a possible problem with water ingress into the cavity insulation from the outside bricks? Loving the videos by the way.
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
I’m a massive fan of timber framing being a carpenter but not everyone is sold on it and some customers are hard to convince its a good way to build. Architects will generally design it out of traditional brick and blockwork. There’s no issue with the insulation getting wet mate no and there’s no such thing as a silly question you either know something or you don’t. We’re more than happy to answer your questions. Enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍🏻
@ironiforca6027 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the new success
@gizz1777 Жыл бұрын
He should rub some Vick on his chest, he'd like Vick he's a big fella 😂😂😂
@sirmalus5153 Жыл бұрын
Will damp get across from the outside brickwork, soak into the wool insulation, then go into the inside brickwork?. Should there be an air gap in outside walls like that? Water always finds a way doesn't it.
@jdickson242 Жыл бұрын
I know cost is king but the client should invest in new insulation and cladding. Then you can tie it all in nicely
@gordongilchrist1237 Жыл бұрын
Double joist trimmer is far too light as a beam for that span. Wont fail but it will bend especially with a full snow load. And ends need well strapped down against wind uplift
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon I’m sorry mate but I’m gonna have to disagree with you there. A double C24 over that span carrying the load put onto it is more than adequate. We don’t have anywhere near the snow load your talking about to have even a slight impact. What I can agree with you on is that it needs strapping down and it does and is shown in another episode. Thank you for commenting on our channel enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍🏻
@marlowjoinery9783 Жыл бұрын
Above the wall plate instead of a nog should be pir board to stop cold spots looks a nice extension
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
We’ve put rock wool insulation in there which you’ll see in the next episode. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
@karlunwin3971 Жыл бұрын
With it being a warm roof will you still need ventilation ?
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
It’s not required for a warm roof Karl no 👍🏻
@amazing451 Жыл бұрын
Looking good boys and well explained. How are you going to seal the new roof to that wall as chasing a groove and inserting lead it is going to be hard?
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully it’ll all become clear next episode for you Kev 👍🏻
@porkpie2884 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but don't understand why they specified such a small window?
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
It's the customers personal choice mate. No one can argue with that.
@porkpie2884
Жыл бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 Yep, understood :)
@therealdojj Жыл бұрын
what's happening to that cctv camera then? i've got the same set up and they removed the camera that was in the way but they couldn't get it apart as it's corroded together so hopefully you don't have the same issue
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Luckily ours was all good and the wire came down from the soffit so it was an easy move. 👍🏻
@therealdojj
Жыл бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 spent a weekend with various implements attempting to get it apart but no luck and i'm loathe to cut it apart only to find there is no uk distributor for the parts and then needing to buy a PAIR as they won't sell them separately...
@jazzyjeff1516 Жыл бұрын
How much does something like this cost the customer?
@waynelewis5656 Жыл бұрын
What is this extension going to be used for? It seems an odd size, not quite big enough for a dining area for example, amd looking at how big the garden is im surprised it's not 2m longer
@crumplezone1 Жыл бұрын
What will the drop be on the firing strips bud ? being as it is technically a flat roof
@BillyMustang101
Жыл бұрын
1:60 ratio is mentioned most these days
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
It depends where you look and who you talk to. I’ve been told 1:40 to achieve 1:80 what ever that means. Maybe that’s where 1:60 comes from 😂
@BillyMustang101
Жыл бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 it’s usually 1:40 max fall and 1:80 minimum fall so yes 1:60 is the middle ground. I’ve just done a flat roof on top of a mansard roof and that was specified 1:60 fall.
@tomk7090 Жыл бұрын
Mick put your safety glasses on pal
@marlowjoinery9783 Жыл бұрын
You boys don’t like scaffold do you 😂
@derekt7606 Жыл бұрын
Can you stop moving the camera about you make me feel sick with all the movement. Plus buy your mate some safety glasses for cutting with a disc.
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Great to watch good tradesmen doing the job properly looking forward to the roof video
I recon Mick is on his phone buying some safety goggles to wear when he’s using that grinder !😂
@DICEGEORGE
Жыл бұрын
He's got a spare eye ...
@thisismossop
Жыл бұрын
No seriously, get some safety glasses, please guys.
When you cut the rafter tails to a line you could set the line 44mm back from your finished length then rip a piece of timber down and stitch it on the ends of the rafters which will give you a fixing point for your plywood and will be more solid behind your fascia detail, good video by the way lads
Brilliant workmanship as per lads👍🏻
Brilliant video Rich, good tutorial and yeah fascias on warm roofs can be too big, good way to disguise that.
Great job in explaining
Very interesting never saw this type of roof before looking forward to next video
most people think all builders are rip off tossers, but yous are spot on, theres always a valiid reason behind what you do
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words Ray. We believe that showing everything we do on the channel even the mistakes helps maintain a good working relationship with our customers and our theory has proved to be correct so far 👍🏻
There must be a rule of the Universe that no matter how much bench space you have, it is never enough, cheers lads.
All the new regs on insulation are good if it's a new build, but i can't see the point if a house of that age or older don't match what's being added, i think there should be some leaway based on the age of the property, bearing in mind how expensive these new regs add to the cost.
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more Keith sometimes it all seems a bit of a nonsense but what can we do other than comply 🤷👍🏻
@TheJbrinks
2 ай бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 hello fellow tradesmen...i am a lobbyist. im here to stop your from doing anything until i get my pound of flesh(money). dodgy regulations that make no sense but cost a ton.....THANK ME
Top stuff fellas.
Gumball 3000 means the kids are getting in the way of my usual Sunday afternoon in getting of KZread so I'll catch this tomorrow now mate
An interesting denomination of a ton there ;)
Loving the content ❤. New Subscriber 🎉😊
👍🏻 Happy days with the cladding, at least you don’t need to put in a cavity tray at the roof abutment.
Will you not get thermal bridging from the timber rafters being under the roof insulation and through the brickwork? Good video btw I've subbed :)
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Hi David and thanks for subscribing. We won’t get thermal bridging mate no. 👍🏻
Looking good 👍
Thanks for the explanations Richard 👍 Dislike that thin sheeting on the house. I think even MFI wardrobes were sturdier than that 😂
PPE please guys. 👍🏻 Regards Mike
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Sorry Mike hopeless aren’t we. We promise to try harder next time 😉👍🏻
Enthusiast amateur and forgive possibly a silly question. Why not timber frame? Would it not be quicker? And is there not a possible problem with water ingress into the cavity insulation from the outside bricks? Loving the videos by the way.
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
I’m a massive fan of timber framing being a carpenter but not everyone is sold on it and some customers are hard to convince its a good way to build. Architects will generally design it out of traditional brick and blockwork. There’s no issue with the insulation getting wet mate no and there’s no such thing as a silly question you either know something or you don’t. We’re more than happy to answer your questions. Enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍🏻
Waiting for the new success
He should rub some Vick on his chest, he'd like Vick he's a big fella 😂😂😂
Will damp get across from the outside brickwork, soak into the wool insulation, then go into the inside brickwork?. Should there be an air gap in outside walls like that? Water always finds a way doesn't it.
I know cost is king but the client should invest in new insulation and cladding. Then you can tie it all in nicely
Double joist trimmer is far too light as a beam for that span. Wont fail but it will bend especially with a full snow load. And ends need well strapped down against wind uplift
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon I’m sorry mate but I’m gonna have to disagree with you there. A double C24 over that span carrying the load put onto it is more than adequate. We don’t have anywhere near the snow load your talking about to have even a slight impact. What I can agree with you on is that it needs strapping down and it does and is shown in another episode. Thank you for commenting on our channel enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍🏻
Above the wall plate instead of a nog should be pir board to stop cold spots looks a nice extension
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
We’ve put rock wool insulation in there which you’ll see in the next episode. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
With it being a warm roof will you still need ventilation ?
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
It’s not required for a warm roof Karl no 👍🏻
Looking good boys and well explained. How are you going to seal the new roof to that wall as chasing a groove and inserting lead it is going to be hard?
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully it’ll all become clear next episode for you Kev 👍🏻
Great video, but don't understand why they specified such a small window?
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
It's the customers personal choice mate. No one can argue with that.
@porkpie2884
Жыл бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 Yep, understood :)
what's happening to that cctv camera then? i've got the same set up and they removed the camera that was in the way but they couldn't get it apart as it's corroded together so hopefully you don't have the same issue
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
Luckily ours was all good and the wire came down from the soffit so it was an easy move. 👍🏻
@therealdojj
Жыл бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 spent a weekend with various implements attempting to get it apart but no luck and i'm loathe to cut it apart only to find there is no uk distributor for the parts and then needing to buy a PAIR as they won't sell them separately...
How much does something like this cost the customer?
What is this extension going to be used for? It seems an odd size, not quite big enough for a dining area for example, amd looking at how big the garden is im surprised it's not 2m longer
What will the drop be on the firing strips bud ? being as it is technically a flat roof
@BillyMustang101
Жыл бұрын
1:60 ratio is mentioned most these days
@mrabuilders6723
Жыл бұрын
It depends where you look and who you talk to. I’ve been told 1:40 to achieve 1:80 what ever that means. Maybe that’s where 1:60 comes from 😂
@BillyMustang101
Жыл бұрын
@@mrabuilders6723 it’s usually 1:40 max fall and 1:80 minimum fall so yes 1:60 is the middle ground. I’ve just done a flat roof on top of a mansard roof and that was specified 1:60 fall.
Mick put your safety glasses on pal
You boys don’t like scaffold do you 😂
Can you stop moving the camera about you make me feel sick with all the movement. Plus buy your mate some safety glasses for cutting with a disc.