Definitely appreciate your video . Absolutely agree about what to use the Heritage for vs the Warm Audio

Just swapped the tubes in my WA-1B for the Mullard tubes. Sounds smooth and thick *pause*

@MrKalimag

Ай бұрын

can you post the link of them?

Thank you so much man. I was literally about to pull the trigger before I found this..I liked and sub appreciate you.

@meanmugsd619

14 күн бұрын

@@RobultrabeatzThanks for checking out the video, after I posted the video I modded my WA-1B Through Revive Audio. MFC Network also sells modded Units. Check out my A/B comparison between The Stock WA-1B and Modded WA-1B.

@Robultrabeatz

14 күн бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 thank you for this info. if I choose not to mod the unit will I still get quality hiphop sounding vocals?getting the Neve 1073 in a few day's to mix with the warm audio

@meanmugsd619

14 күн бұрын

@@Robultrabeatz they’re both great units. HA has a bit of saturation. WA-1B has a bump in the low mids and a bit sibilant in my opinion. The mod fixes all that and sounds way better! You can also swap the tubes in the WA-1B, i purchased some Electro Harmonics from sweetwater.

We have a few Tube Techs in our studio in Dallas and neither one of them sound the same .

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

I know I wasn’t going to get that 100% CL-1B sound out of these two units. Plus most of us home studio heads aren’t trying to break the bank for one. My purpose for this shootout was to compare both warm and herritage replicas, to help others understand the difference between the two, and especially for the price difference. I would have kept the Tubesessor, but that’s not the sound I want on my vocals. I can always add saturation or grit to vocals post processing. They are both great units!

@flossondatrack8861

8 ай бұрын

I meant, one tube tech doesn’t even sound the same as the other tube tech CL-1B. You can definitely get a great sound out of either one of these compressors. You did a great job brother.

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

@@flossondatrack8861 I know what you meant. I’ve heard it from someone else as well. Much appreciated brotha!

@fantaztikbeatz

8 ай бұрын

​@meanmug3911 thanks for the video bro. You helped me out alot. I was stuck between the two. Like you said the comparison videos are overkill but the way you broke it down was straight to the point

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

I only wanted to give you guys a Raw in depth comparison without all the extra Hollywood acting, if you know what I mean.

Thanks for your work. Very honest and straight forward review. It helps a lot for the buying decision. I agree with your verdict. I think it's not ok how much distortion the Heritage Audio delivers even in the classic mode.

@meanmugsd619

Ай бұрын

I honestly appreciate your comment. I’ve been getting a bit of negative feedback for my video. You can clearly see that my video is one take with direct audio signal. I keep telling everyone that they’re are both great units, but different in their own unique way, and I’m not a fan of saturated signal on vocals. Thank you!

you real af for this bro bro

@meanmugsd619

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Bro! I have a comparison video on the stock WA-1B vs Revive Audio’s Modded WA-1B too.

thanks!

Hi, thanks for the comparison. I´m afraid that if you tried 12AX7s instead of the 5755 tube we use, big chances are that you have damaged the unit as they are not pin compatible. Without much information, the audio sounds like the unit is not performing like it should.

@meanmugsd619

7 ай бұрын

It definitely sounds great, and sounded the same out the box before attempting tube swap. Myself and another KZreadr noticed that the Tubesessor has a bit more saturation that adds grit to the vocals, and that’s not what I’m looking for. I would have loved to kept the unit, as it provides more features, but it’s just not the sound I want. IMO I think classic mode should be an off switch, for those who don’t want saturation added. Thank you for your comment, and I hope this video only helps others with deciding which unit is best for their application, as it helped me decide.

@meanmugsd619

7 ай бұрын

@Jdsbleedo bro, the unit was fine and sounded good. I just don’t like the saturation! To me saturation sounds nasty and dirty on a signal!

@meanmugsd619

7 ай бұрын

@Jdsbleedo it sounded like that before I changed the tubes. I’d be happy to test another one out if @heritage_audio would send me one.

@harpoleon6806

7 ай бұрын

​@meanmug3911 the maker's told u it don't sound right and ur literally arguing like u know better you and the other youtuber know more than the manufacturer 😅🤣🤣 funny ours don't sound like urs it's funny u fucked urs up smh 😂😂😂

@harpoleon6806

7 ай бұрын

​@@meanmugsd619u don't deserve one u already fucked one up thinking u knew what u was doing lmao 🤣 😂 🤡🤡🤡 telling the manufacturer where they need to improve while ur fucking up trying g to tube swap lmao

this is a great demonstration bro! Can you let me know more about switching the tubes? That's what I'm looking to do. Thanks!

@meanmugsd619

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for tuning in. Here’s a short I made on swapping out tubes kzread.infovc_yO_h43mA?si=lbNCXQ_J7a9vNmwi You can purchase electro harmonix from sweetwater, or various tubes from WatfordValves.com in the UK. It’ll give you a full description on each valve type, and how they function. Just type in the tube type you’re looking for. 12AX7, and 12AU7 type valves. You can send your WA-1B to ReviveAudio.com or MFC Network to get it modded like I did. Here’s a video on how it sounds. Warm Audio WA-1B vs Revive Audio WA-1B Comparison kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z42O27Kpgpu9lKg.html

by chance, are you able to set up the warm audio to just cut out the louder t's and s's like when you did the side chain on the heritage audio? I do VO and have a hard time controlling the t's and s's when I do my work. I use some compression on my avalon 737, but its not enough to catch those pesky spikes unless I compress the heck out of it and I can't do that for the majority of my work. I really have a hardware unit, and that warm audio sounded really good to me.

@meanmugsd619

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately they don’t have that feature on the WA-1B. That’s the Benefit of the Tubesessor, and extra features it provides. I honestly would have kept the Tubesessor, but I’m not a fan of Saturation or Gritty sound unless I want it as an effect. You can always use a De-esser on your channel strip if you have an Apollo interface.

Like the video a lot, but can you explain exactly why you changed the tube on the warm? What was the result? Thanks

@meanmugsd619

3 ай бұрын

Sibilance! Point blank!

Thanks!👏🏻👏🏻 What about Magnetismus from Tegel, did you consider it in your research process? 👏🏻👏🏻👋🏼👋🏼

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

I have not, but I’ll definitely check that one out.

Great video. I went with the WA-1B myself. Would you say the tube swap is a significant upgrade in sound?

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

I have 3 WA-1b units in my room right now, because two came defective. But that gave me an opportunity to do a shootout between the same units with different tubes. Honestly, I really can’t tell the difference, and I’m not about to spend $400 on 3 of the top quality Tubes, but then again I would. 😆 Try The 12AX7 & 12AU7 Electro Harmonix from Sweetwater. I saw a Tube Tech CL-B with those tubes, and that’s what made me purchase those specific tubes. I think it smooths out the vocal a bit more in the Low end and in the Hi frequency. Doesn’t sound as rumbly and sibilant, but your talking a tiny bit.

@tommyredding2.0

8 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 thanks for the reply and tube reference. Think I’ll give it a shot.

@meanmugsd619

7 ай бұрын

@@tommyredding2.0 FYI, if you’re not satisfied with the sound of the Tube Swap, then look into ReviveAudio.com. They provide an upgrade service for the WA-1B along with other units. I just sent mine in yesterday. I also sent my WA-8000 to MFC Network from KZread for their Links Mod Max upgrade. I can’t wait to hear the upgrades!

@tommyredding2.0

7 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 thanks for the referral! It sounds great, but I am starting to notice the warm bump in the mids everyone is talking about. What kind of upgrades does Revive Audio offer for the unit? Thanks again!

@meanmugsd619

7 ай бұрын

@@tommyredding2.0 I don’t have the specs in front of me. But if you go to their website and click on mail in service and then click warm audio, then select the unit you’re looking to modify. It’ll give you a full report and specs on that upgrade.

Thanks for the video. Why did you decide to change the tubes in the WA 1b?

@meanmugsd619

3 ай бұрын

I know that warm audio is known for using cheap parts. So i searched online for the exact tubes that the tube tech uses. It does make a difference. I did the same for the WA-8000 mic.

@salt7438

2 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619What tube did you used for mic (wa8000) ?

@meanmugsd619

2 ай бұрын

@@salt7438 A Sony non Branded 6AU6 Valve. If you have the funds, I recommend you get it modded by MFC network from KZread.

Im trying to build a vocal chain. I have the Neumann 105. ISA One Pre Amp. Klark Teknik Eq. WA-1B. Apollo Twin. Set up just like that. Thinking about Chaning everything to Warm Audio. What yall thing?

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

It doesn’t hurt to try or test out new equipment. You’re not forced to keep it, plus you have 30 days to return it. I literally had two Neves 1073’s, three WA-1B’s, and the Tubesessor in my Room during that shootout 😆 Only because I kept receiving defective units, that had a scratch, loose parts and one came dented! It’s all in you’re preference, and what’s affordable. I honestly wanted the Avalon VT-737sps. It’s a all in one channel strip, and it sounds great for Rap Vocals. Manley Vox Box is another all in one too.

@jossuecastaneda8135

6 ай бұрын

You can add the Warm Audio 76 to your existing chain and get really really great results.

@VersatileLifestyle1

6 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 Thank you. That's a good idea to try them out.

@VersatileLifestyle1

6 ай бұрын

@@jossuecastaneda8135 Will look into one. Thanks a lot 🙏

bro are the new tubes you put on the wa-1b made it better or what did it change on your vocals?

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

The Harma Retro tubes from Watford Vales.com and Mullards from Amazon, pretty much sound the same as the stock Tung-Sol that come with the unit. I haven’t recorded comparisons yet, but The Electro Harmonix from Sweetwater did smooth out the vocal a bit. The low end sounds a bit smoother and the hi’s aren’t as harsh and sibilant.

@saintclarityakacasanovabro7992

8 ай бұрын

Wow the warm audio by miles!!!!!

@saintclarityakacasanovabro7992

8 ай бұрын

The tubesessor sounds horrible!!!! To much sibilance

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

@@saintclarityakacasanovabro7992 It’s a great compressor, but not for my type of music. I just uploaded a short on how to swap out the tubes on the WA-1B.

@meanmugsd619

8 ай бұрын

I just watched your video on the WA-8000. Try swapping out the Tube for a 6AU6A Tube that the Sony uses, it makes a difference on the harsh sibilants. Watford Valves have different tubes as well. I tried 5 different tubes on my WA-8000. The Sony non-branded 6AU6A sounded best. Also, check out the latest WA-8000 mod kit upgrade from MFC Network on KZread. I just sent my mic in to get modded.

You know what would have been good? If you ran those compressors with some drums... Would have been really good...

@meanmugsd619

Ай бұрын

I would have if I had everything more organized at the moment. I literally connected everything and recorded the video on the spot. I mainly produce and record rap and hip hop.

Strange, I am reviewing one and it doesn't sound like this. I copied your settings and was testing as I watched the video. Probably bad Quality Control. Will try the WA1B next

@meanmugsd619

5 ай бұрын

I’ve already modded my WA-1B through Revive Audio. It sounds good while tracking vocals.

@jacksp8de

5 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 was the mod worth it? I can get the wa1b on loan so I won’t be modding it unless I decide to keep it

@meanmugsd619

5 ай бұрын

I say the mod is definitely well worth it. I have a comparison video with both the stock and modded WA-1B. MFC network also provides a Modding service for the WA-1B. I went with revive at that time because they were they only ones that had the modding option.

@meanmugsd619

5 ай бұрын

When you tested out the Tubesessor, did you have the Attack/Release set to Fixed??

@jacksp8de

5 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 oh ok imma check that video out!

Can you link the tubes you put in the WA-1B?

@meanmugsd619

7 ай бұрын

Hi there, I just updated my description per your request. Thanks for watching!

I’m curious to know what tubes are in the CL1B do you know? I know the HA Tubesessor has the NOS Raytheon tubes, And the WA1B has the JJ and Tung sol, and Revive audio puts the Genalex Gold lion In the WA1B MOD, Just curious to know what tubes are in the CL1B. Also I’ve just ordered some Genalex Gold lion tubes for my WA1B hopefully they sound good lol, Great video also keep up to good work! Thanks 🙏🏻

@meanmugsd619

Ай бұрын

There’s variety of tubes that other people use from what I googled. It all depends on the type of sound you’re trying to achieve. I believe the best ones cost around $100 per tube, which I think are from Telefunken. Go on WatfordValves.com and look up the specific valves that are compatible with the CL1B, and you’ll find information for each tube.

@nizzaofficial

Ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 I was going to buy some vintage NOS Telefunken smooth plate for my WA1B but there very hard to find and they cost over $300 dollars a pair, I ended up buying a pair of gold lion for now. I couldn’t find anything on the internet regarding the tubes that are in the CL1B, but if I had to guess I would say there telefunken. Thanks 🙏🏻

@meanmugsd619

Ай бұрын

@@nizzaofficial I did find that Electro-Harmonics from sweetwater did tame the sharp hi end frequency on the WA-1B without the mod. I would also look into revive audios mod upgrade, it’s a huge difference!

@nizzaofficial

Ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 I looked into revive audio MOD I’m from the UK shipping is very costly, but I did go out and buy the same Genalex Gold lion tubes that revive audio use, hopefully these will make a little difference, What else do revive Audio do when they MOD? Do they adjust attack and release times and change out other parts? Thanks again

@meanmugsd619

Ай бұрын

@@nizzaofficial yes, they change a couple of small parts and calibrate for a better attack and release. To me it sounds much smoother.

Just run them in serial 🤷 lol why choose?

@meanmugsd619

4 ай бұрын

WYM?

Awesome review!! I would love to send you my CL1B replica !!

@meanmugsd619

5 ай бұрын

WYM?

@joshuavanderstam1345

5 ай бұрын

I build one too as custom work for some customers@@meanmugsd619

@meanmugsd619

5 ай бұрын

I didn’t realize who you were at first, Mr. Stam Audio himself! Thank you for tuning in my brother. I’ve been following your craft for quite some time, ever since I got into cloned equipment. I never got a chance to test out your sa800, I had placed an order when the MKII came out, but I had to cancel that order. I believe you and I messaged back and forth through email. According to your message are you saying that you have CL-1B Replica in production?

It sounds like a Avalon 737

@meanmugsd619

5 ай бұрын

Which out of the two?

Splitting to left and right ears is a terrible test method since everyone has a dominant ear. You are the first person I’ve seen think the Warm sounds better than the Heritage.. hard to take this review seriously.. after listening to your ‘side by side’ comparison it sounds like you have a defective unit.

@meanmugsd619

7 ай бұрын

I’ve been making music since I was 12yrs old, so I know what I’m hearing. That left and right trick is something I developed on my own as a producer when sampling. Like I said, the unit sounds great but I’m not a fan of saturation. This video was only intended to help those who are having a hard time deciding which unit is best for them. I’m sure Warm Audio has it’s flaws, and I’m not a fan of cheap parts at all, but at the same time I’m not going to spend nearly $3,000 on a unit I’m not happy with because of the brand. Same goes for Golden Age’s GA-8000, which I think is a great sounding mic and would love to have. I had ordered Two of them and they both had the same problem, but I never posted that video. I rather spend an additional change to have someone modify it with the proper components to give it the sound it lacks on. Just stay Tuned… And Turn It Up A Notch! 🎚️🔈🔉🔊

Just wondering your training or credentials or are u just a random who surfed forums and are acting like u have trained ears a matter of fact can we see your posts?

@meanmugsd619

3 ай бұрын

I’ve been experimenting and making music since 1997 at the age of 12, and haven’t stopped since. I think that should explain enough.

@TeikevanBaden

12 күн бұрын

I'm a professional with trained ears and all the things Mean Mug was saying in the youtube video are spot on. So he's got the ears.

lmfao... the amount that you spent on those two you could of just brought the real tube-tech

@meanmugsd619

4 ай бұрын

Not really, The Tube Techs are expensive on Reverb. Plus I sent the Tubesessor back.

@risingphoenix1484

4 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 I bought the TTCL1B from Sweetwater I spent a little under $4K, I'm guess those two units was around $3500

that HA unit doesn't sound right I have two units and there is no saturation as you have. probably fckd it up with that DIY tube swap. it should sound way more cleaner. this review is misleading for people who watched it and now think this is what every unit sounds.

@meanmugsd619

2 ай бұрын

The HA-T had saturation from the start. You can’t use the same type of tubes as the CL1B on the HA. It’s not compatible, so it’s technically not a CL-1B clone. Saturation sounds horrible to me, it’s not a natural sound. HA-T is not for me!

@HC-jp4cf

2 ай бұрын

@@meanmugsd619 deff something is wrong with your unit they are very smooth, even too smooth compared to cl1b. but not grainy like yours that unit is bad

@meanmugsd619

2 ай бұрын

There’s a video from someone else who said the same about the saturation, and he did his video before me.

@meanmugsd619

2 ай бұрын

Plus you can’t use tubes for the WA-1B on the Tubesessor. Heritage Audio’s Tubes are different type Valves. I’d be glad to test out a new unit from HA. It’s a great compressor, but not the sound I’m looking for.

The Heritage audio is over priced

After all these years with audio, you *still* haven't figured out how to use a scope? 🤦You could have sent a 1K sine wave through these and looked on the spectrum analyzer, and clearly showed us where the harmonics are so that everyone can see the saturation profiles clearly and exactly. And that would have been super easy to do. The first thing I said to myself when watching this video is "Give him a chance, maybe he's not another one of those guys". But you were yet another one of those guys who can't test anything.

@meanmugsd619

Ай бұрын

First off I’m not one of those guys or a Vlogger. I don’t have time or patience to do fancy videos for your preference. You can clearly hear the difference and the saturation. Number one rule as a producer or engineer, is trust your ears not your eyes pal! I listen to music not watch music videos, you get my drift!