War Thunder - WHAT is MISSING BEFORE we go to the 4.5 GEN JETS?
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Talking about what are some of the aircraft missing that need to be added before we go to the next step in jet tech!
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we are missing a proper 10v10 or 8v8 player count game mode before we have to dodge 4 advance amraams
@jacknickolstine3355
13 күн бұрын
They need to change the RB EC mode to be more like sim with a set number of respawns or even pay to play like in sim. The EC mode they have in BR sucks, it ends way too fast. If they made a server select mode like sim with that I think a big portion of the community would be happy. They are the best maps and game modes in my opinion. Enough room to play, Enough AI objectives to even make the bombers happy.
Need the mig25, delta dart, and at least the F-111F
@timb3499
13 күн бұрын
Don’t forget about the Voodoo!
@STRYKER1467
12 күн бұрын
Dont need the MiG-25 just add the MiG-31 its better, MiG-25 is hard to balance but the 31 is definitely easier to balance somewhere in 11.0 - 12.0 the 25 would be somewhere in 9.7 yes its fast but thats it the missile are crap and it doesnt have a gun.
@MqncoMarepoto
5 күн бұрын
@@STRYKER1467 depends on the variant of the MiG-31
We need BR decompression and a revamp to the Air RB gamemode. The gameplay loop is just so damn boring after IRCCM and Fox3's. I get the appeal of constantly adding aircraft but after 3rd gens the gameplay loop for any aircraft is the same: rush, point, and click to shoot missile. Or BVR and waste 90% of your missiles. Enforcing lower player count lobbies and decompressing the BRs at higher tiers would be a great start before moving on to 4+ gens.
Before they add more modern vehicles, for air they need to fix the team sizes, and for ground and air they need to start reducing rp cost. The grind is already ridiculously long.
Hornets, mig25 and J10 are the three more or less new airframes that aren't derivatives from other types that I'd like to see
People were saying that the F-15A couldn’t come to the game because of the lack of countermeasures and trash missiles. They added a very late A variant of the F-15A MSIP so they’ll likely do the same with the F-18A+ which can use AMRAAMS and they’ll add an F-18C later with other stuff, maybe AIM-9X?
i'd love to see a 1v1 air rb and 2v2 air rb game mode
@regn97
13 күн бұрын
Yeah but if they do that people will complain about the sl and rp rewards.. maybe x5 them and it will be good :)
@Ghooost____733
13 күн бұрын
fr
@mattcooper6591
13 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t even care if I got sl or rp from this game mode. Let me and my friend dog fight and use skill instead of spam
@regn97
13 күн бұрын
@@mattcooper6591 just make a custom match with ur friend then..
@kavinbala8885
12 күн бұрын
@@mattcooper6591 you can set up a custom battle for that if you just wanna play against your friends. but sometimes my friends have stuff to do while I don't have stuff to do and vice versa (timezones moment) and being able to do 1v1s and 2v2s without them would be nice
i think gaijin just needs to add the jets not just consistent variants to make up for the lack of skill on the dev team
Tbh we could use a F14D, F/A 18 A/B/C, SU33, a new MiG 29, early stage of the Eurofighter, maybe a block 25-45 C/D F16 some Chinese fighters would be nice as they kinda need it. These all seem very realistic to see what we could get next with out question
WHAT WE NEED IS TO HELP GERMAN PLAYERS FROM NOT KILLING THEMSELVES
@gangstercheesefries1112
13 күн бұрын
My little brother has been losing his mind lmfaooooooooo
@thatoneguy1741
13 күн бұрын
😂
@OiOi-Jim
13 күн бұрын
They’ll survive, Britain and Italy had to deal with it for a couple years before they got any sort of turn-fighters
@venatrix3431
9 күн бұрын
Oh boo hoo, Britain had to deal with Turdnadoes, Italy had basically nothing, France had 4 unusable missiles before the Magics were buffed, and neither of these nations get good Ground vehicles, Germany got spoon-fed this whole time
WHAT is MISSING BEFORE we go to the 4.5 GEN JETS? Answer : 1. F-CK 1A Ching Kuo 2. F/A-18A/B/C/D Legacy Hornets 3. F-14D Super Tomcat 4. J-10A 5. F-15E Strike Eagle 6. SU-34
@warthunderclipper
13 күн бұрын
Why is F-CK 1A such a hilarious name to me
@ulysses7945
13 күн бұрын
Japanese F-2
@fate3071
13 күн бұрын
F-2 os a gen 4+ jet tho@@ulysses7945
The F-14B that we currently have has a completely different airframe than what the F-14Ds would have due to their 1990s airframe upgrade. Most F-14Ds were upgraded A’s with the earlier airframe only difference were the stabilizing glove departments being welded shut. So the F-14Ds would have the F-14A flight model, with similar avionics to the F-14B (slightly better also with IRST). So no it would most definitely be broken along with it’s ability to carry amraams and Aim9Ms AND GBUs
F14b is straight up bullying with the Dow tiers and phoenix spam
@CallofWarQC
13 күн бұрын
F-14A is better tier for tier IMO never sees 13.0
@kavinbala8885
13 күн бұрын
@@CallofWarQCye technically because of the br placement f-14A may be the best plane in the game
@nowortimore1445
13 күн бұрын
Yea he is completely delusional, the F14 A or B absolutely club in dowtiers. The B should be 12.7 and the A 12.3.
@toast8855
13 күн бұрын
@@nowortimore144512.3 with aim-9g?
@PvtPartzz
13 күн бұрын
@@nowortimore1445only in air rb. The F14b is cheeks in sim battles because of the radar’s inability to find and track targets at close range and maintain tracks/locks at any range.
Mat- nice vid. Would you have any interest in making a video on very long range missiles and their place in WT, like the AIM-174B, R-37M, PL-17, etc?
@Floopuss
13 күн бұрын
That would be a cool video, the AIM-174B is very interesting
@christopherchartier3017
13 күн бұрын
@@Floopuss It’s supposedly the hypothetical longest range air to air missile in the world, and it can also engage ballistic missiles, surface, and ground targets (since it’s basically an SM-6)
@thatoneguy1741
13 күн бұрын
@@christopherchartier3017they don’t have any place in warthunder not with the fur ball meta still here
@christopherchartier3017
13 күн бұрын
@@thatoneguy1741 I know, I don’t suspect any of them EVER getting added. It’s still fun to compare and dive down into
i want the Mirage 2000-5 Mk-2, F-14D-170-GR, F/A-18C, A-10C, F-111F
Not a Gen 4, but I wanna see the S-3 Viking and a tech tree A-6 Intruder added to the US attack line. Hell we should be seeing Wild Weasel and Growler aircraft at this point.
I’d like to see more maps that facilitated carrier ops more
We need an actual fucking enjoyable game with no power creep I tell you what we need
matawg os underrated, lot of good info with high accuracy most of the time
I think instead of the su33 the su30 would be cool, as it kinda lays a path for 4.5 gen weaponry and tec and can actually fight the spam ram meta with r77-1. Great vid 👍
Gaijin is gonna save the F18A or C for December. Since it's a highly requested aircraft and highly anticipated. I'm certain that Gaijin is gonna save it for the last update for the year. Giving 2024 one last bang
su-34 full back should be added and the f15e strike eagle to
@STRYKER1467
12 күн бұрын
We need the Su-24 first.
@Niko_rj
12 күн бұрын
Why u need strike eagle if F16 better? Only fighter which can carry 6 mavericks.
@Spockpower_prive
9 күн бұрын
@@STRYKER1467 true but when where talking about 4th gen the fullback should also be added. But your right tho. The 3th gen isn’t finished and we are already moving into 4,5 gen. Kinda weird
@STRYKER1467
9 күн бұрын
@@Spockpower_prive thats gaijin again well never understand.
GIVE ME THE 18!
Crazy how each gen looks unique 6th gen aircraft us is currently developing will look out of this world
Century series jets.
We are missing actual 10 v 10 and 8 v 8 games and/or larger maps, and/or better game modes for top-tier jets. Gaijin can add all the jets in the world to the game and it will make the game absolutely trash if everything else stays the same. Mat never considers these things, just wars more and more jets.
Besides these upgrades we also need more advanced versions of the Fox 3 missiles currently in game, there are several variants of the AIM120 they could add which are era appropriate for current Jets as an example.
@nucleardrifting3864
13 күн бұрын
The game is not ready for them. TBH it wasn’t ready for fox 3 missiles. Realistic needs to be a mix between realistic and simulator at higher tiers. Decrease the number of players, change the airfield spawns (make them farther apart and randomized) and have another objective besides just kill the enemies. Having one team need to destroy a set of objectives while the other is stopping them or something like that will allow the new jets to be used in a way that they would be utilized.
Just give us RB EC for top tier ffs
If the f 18 does come out, will germany get the swiss one?
Su-33 isn’t coming as a tech tree vehicle. A non Fox-3 slinger post Seek and destroy it’ll likely just come later as a premium or event vehicle.
@STRYKER1467
12 күн бұрын
Su-33 could be added below the Yak-41.
@saplingseedsaccrew3143
12 күн бұрын
@@STRYKER1467 Sure maybe
The swiss fa18 (and the finnish, which i am not 100 percent sure) are not capable of doing air to ground missions as a humanitarian group wanted the aircrafts not to be used against humans/civilians directly but only for denfense against other fighters, attackers and bombers
I'm excited for the rhino.
do i even bother trying to get to top tier at this point ??
I think the Mig 25 would also be nice to have.
@STRYKER1467
12 күн бұрын
MiG-31 is the better choice.
ECM
We are missing the fixed F-15 radar
We already got 4+ gen jets?
F-14D please
F18 in the Spanish subtree for Germany.
I want the hawk 200 and Atlas cheetah for Britain
I still want to see aircraft like the hawk and gnat added, ever since France and Germany got the alpha jet, it’s time for Britain, Finland and other nations to get their hawks
@jjkrayenhagen
13 күн бұрын
I am so ready for a Hot Shots skin for the gnat.
I think every1 needs to stop crying what BR planes are and learn to improve their skill level and how 2 beat those planes ex. not yolo towards the enemy which I see to many times 11.7 to 13,0 ppeople doing
God I’m so early ima chaff all over my screen
Thers like 50 planes that should be added before the 4.5 generetion aircraft 💀
isnt like f-15C and f-15C an 4.5 gen already?
@judex5693
13 күн бұрын
No, what would be 4.5 gen for the F-15 would be the F-15EX. 5. gen usually means stealth aircraft
We will get more jets, even 4.5, but they will have the missiles we have currently. They won't get anything more modern since the current-day platforms are nothing special except the Raptor and F35.
Give me the super.
we need unfucked multipathing beforehand
I am going to be honest I love your videos and agree on a couple of those you have said however your missing the below J10 Mig 25 Mig 31 Obviously you said the f18 But I think not this patch but next we may see the inclusion of our first stealth plane being f117
@TheAngriestGamer.
13 күн бұрын
mig 25/31 will be hela OP
@christopherchartier3017
13 күн бұрын
@@TheAngriestGamer.they really wont
@chrisdempyful
13 күн бұрын
@@TheAngriestGamer. I don’t believe it would be. I think it would be fairly straightforward to counter. The plane as we already know is no dog fighter it would be the fastest jet in the game and also have the highest ceiling of all jets to date however the plane would quickly find itself stuck after firing its missiles just like the f14 when you equip with all Phoenix missiles. Missiles can all be evaded or if you use defensive flying this would also reduce the chances of being shot down. But the plane would eventually need to come down and either dog fight, land and re-arm or be shot down by another capable missile.
@TheAngriestGamer.
13 күн бұрын
@@chrisdempyful ive fought them in DCS, they are aids. they out run and out range everything, they can simply outrun all return fire, and their Hyper long range missiles shut down the sky. We dont have TALDs, Jamming, or Anti-Radar missiles in the game so their is no real way to fight them, even Aim120Ds struggle to fight them, and we dont even have Cs. the best way to fight Mig31s is to literally to get low, run away and drag them to a patriot sam battery or Naval Fleet (which WT doesnt have). I really dont want to fight a 160-250NM Mach 5+ missile fired from a mach 3+ jet thats 2x as fast as everything else it would fight.. no thanks, we dont need a Sky Pantsir to ruin Air RB/Sim battles like ground RB is ruined.
@TheAngriestGamer.
12 күн бұрын
@@chrisdempyful if you want Mig31 then the US gets Super Hornets with AIM-174B, Its only fair.
Iranian f14 in ussr tree!
@STRYKER1467
12 күн бұрын
I think it would be better to add more Czech aircrafts to the ussr tree for example the L-39 or L-159, maybe even the JAS-39C.
JF-17
mig 25/31 some old interceptors or pure navy update like new carriers for f18 with f18 for su 33 and ideal for most nation and fleet for plane carrier in formation (with functional air defends, vulcans, short range missiles, mid range and long range and at the end ASM for planes and ships ) missions open sea and some coasts fighting two plane carrier battle grupe wich team destroy more ships wins or ships are closing to range of the ASM and which players destroy plane carrier then team wins, players can spawn on plane carrier after death, and after carrier are sunk just kill rest players, other ships like light crusers are for points or for neutralizing Air defence that cruiser can shot down plane carring ASM or bombs or even ASM after you sunk cruiser is plane carrier is more vulnerable
@wingsoface65
13 күн бұрын
pure navy missions
@airlightshockZOV
13 күн бұрын
Trooper ahh suggestion
Sweet
Gaijin, please add Su-47 Berkut! I will pay whatever you want 😅
@Mr_Lukasgrim
13 күн бұрын
I highly doubt that they would add a technology denonstrator aircraft sadly.
@mirafty83x99
13 күн бұрын
@@Mr_Lukasgrim they add the challenger 3 so maybe they will add technology demostrator for aircraft TT
@STRYKER1467
12 күн бұрын
could work, Su-47 and Su-37 are both possible.
Matt's FEET are missing, if you ask me. 👁❤️👃🦶
F18A
More realiable servers... Less bugs... Less cheaters...
@gangstercheesefries1112
13 күн бұрын
How often do you actually run into cheaters tho? botting feels different when you run into it because it's not an advantage it's a free kill lol
@Peter199204
13 күн бұрын
@@gangstercheesefries1112 sometimes in a week, but the problems i think the server lagging and matters where is the play CIS EU ... Or lose the server with perfect internet connection or they must create a fairplay matchmaking... I think they must create battles with different types of players levels. A high rate player never play with a new bought premium player... and after one died left... It is not only a flying simulator in realistic battles...
We already technically have a 4.5 gen, the gripen
@Skinny6539
13 күн бұрын
bro????
@Floopuss
13 күн бұрын
I think only the Gripen E is 4.5 gen because it has a stealth coating on it.
@luger4809
13 күн бұрын
@@Floopuss no it’s the electronic suite
@Floopuss
12 күн бұрын
@@luger4809 well it’s not just one or the other, 4.5 gen means it has “advanced sensor integration, AESA radar, supercruise capability, supermaneuverability, broad multi-role capability, and reduced radar cross-section.”
@luger4809
12 күн бұрын
@@Floopuss correct but the gripen’s main selling point is its electronic warfare suite which really puts it up to par with other 4.5s, especially in the new E variant which is I believe, twice as strong if I’m not mistaken
F22 confirmed
First bruh