Want A More Open Crumb Sourdough? How to Shape A Batard.

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I frequently get asked: How do I get a more open crumb in a loaf of sourdough bread? There are a number of ways to do this, but I think one of the simplest ways to achieve a more open crumb lies in the shaping.
Shaping a loaf into a batard (oblong) as opposed to a boule (round), for whatever reason always gives me a more open crumb.
In this video, I walk you through the steps of shaping a sourdough batard after the bulk fermentation for two separate batches of dough, one made with all bread flour, one made with some stone-milled whole wheat flours. Throughout the video, I cut through 4 loaves of bread, each shaped as a batard. None of these doughs employed an autolyse or preferment or levain. The recipes are linked below.
This is one of ten bread baking tips I share in a recent blog post: alexandracooks.com/2021/03/14...
Sourdough Resources:
How to Feed, Store, and Maintain a Sourdough Starter: alexandracooks.com/2019/11/07...
Simple Sourdough Bread, Step by Step: alexandracooks.com/2017/10/24...
Wholewheat-ish Sourdough Bread, Step by Step: alexandracooks.com/2019/11/07...
Why is My Sourdough So Sticky?: alexandracooks.com/2020/08/28...
The cast iron baking pan I am using in this video is the Challenger Bread Pan. It's a little pricey, but worth it if you do a lot of sourdough bread baking. The handles on top make it soooo easy: challengerbreadware.com/produ... (affiliate link)
I also love the Lodge Dutch Oven that's 5 quarts and less $$ (affiliate link): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
I swear by flour sack towels, which allow me to plop the shaped loaves into the towel-lined bannetons without using any additional flour: Here are two favorites: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07... (affiliate)
www.dotandarmy.com/products/f...
-⏱️Timestamps⏱️--
0:00 Slicing open a sourdough batard to reveal an open crumb.
0:21Turning out sourdough that has completed the bulk fermentation.
0:32​ Preshaping a round of sourdough.
0:50 Turning out a whole wheat sourdough that has completed the bulk fermentation.
0:58​ Preshaping a whole wheat round of sourdough.
1:21 Bench rest.
1:23​ Shaping a sourdough batard.
1:55​ Transferring batard to towel-lined banneton.
2:19​ Transferring batard to fridge for 24 hours.
2:29​ Shaping another sourdough batard.
3:06​ Transferring batard to towel-lined banneton.
3:31​ Transferring batard to fridge for 24 hours.
3:40​ Scoring a sourdough batard.
4:18 Transferring scored sourdough batard to preheated Dutch oven.
4:37 Uncovering the Dutch oven after 30 minutes.
4:57 Cutting into cooled sourdough batard.
5:16 Scoring and Baking the whole wheat sourdough batard.
5:49 Removing the baked whole wheat sourdough batard from the oven.
6:00 Cutting into the whole wheat sourdough batard.
6:18 Cutting into one final sourdough batard.

Пікірлер: 285

  • @stonewarebirds3620
    @stonewarebirds36209 ай бұрын

    I wish all youtube videos were like this… straight into the action, no chat, no annoying music like we need ‘entertaining’ rather than information and natural sounds!

  • @ts6477
    @ts6477 Жыл бұрын

    By far the best sourdough shaping video! No distracting talk or music, just skilled hands doing their thing clearly. Thanks!!

  • @DavidLeeNCSU
    @DavidLeeNCSU3 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful loaves, but when i heard the children laughing and playing in the background at the end, that’s when i clicked subscribe. Moms are awesome.

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awww thank you :) :) :)

  • @natashaboru8784
    @natashaboru8784 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed your silent video and you cute little children's laughter in the background. Your bread is beautiful. I hope i get an open crumb like yours🙂

  • @mannem8074
    @mannem80742 жыл бұрын

    I'm amazed at how you did the shaping without any flour!

  • @msriley52

    @msriley52

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too!

  • @backdraft57
    @backdraft57 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you. Loved just hearing kitchen sounds and not some obnoxious music.

  • @shannonl7320
    @shannonl73203 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the most relaxing and satisfying videos to watch. The Bob Ross of bread 🍞 💕

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Shannon 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @hostesswiththemostess7082

    @hostesswiththemostess7082

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just love watching the dough settle. It’s mesmerizing

  • @saboo480
    @saboo4803 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I understood the phrase "baker's hands" until I saw yours. Absolutely amazing!

  • @conniesee1126
    @conniesee11263 жыл бұрын

    Sudden realization that I'm an official sourdough nerd 🤓 as this was beautiful to watch (twice). #goals

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear :)

  • @christinebeames2311

    @christinebeames2311

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi me too , who knew we needed to know the ins and outs of this , but we do ,

  • @lyng4051

    @lyng4051

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha me too 😂

  • @toosiyabrandt8676
    @toosiyabrandt86763 жыл бұрын

    HI Apart from this being a great visual tutorial, I am blown away by your beautiful hand movements! Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua.

  • @doreenlaufer60
    @doreenlaufer602 ай бұрын

    I have been baking your bread for 2 years, sooo glad to see some very helpful videos as my baking has been rather hit or miss! Thanks so much, continue your great baking!❤❤

  • @brichweb
    @brichweb Жыл бұрын

    This video was super helpful, a few things that really helped me and I think lead to a better, more airy crumb were. 1.) Don't flour the bench if you don't need, the tension helps with the shaping 2.) The bench scraper technique - I think I was overworking my dough when trying to shape a tight ball. If anything, having a looser shape makes it easier to shape the batard. 3.) Put the dough seam up after that first shape, allows you to keep a nice tension and smooth shape for the eventual outside of your loaf.

  • @esakesak3121
    @esakesak31213 жыл бұрын

    This page is specialized and not just general culture. We thank you for your great efforts to enrich our passion in baking. I am just a fan of home baking, especially traditional bread.

  • @HeyPearly
    @HeyPearly3 жыл бұрын

    WOW! A-BEE-YOU-TEA-FULL loaf, perfect crumb and OMG! That Blistered crust!! YOU are my HERO!

  • @marycarmengraham3437
    @marycarmengraham34379 ай бұрын

    Great video. Great recipe. Ali has the capacity of being extremely detailed with her recipes. It is always a no fail.

  • @kostaskoukoravas5533
    @kostaskoukoravas55333 жыл бұрын

    thank you Alexandra! I've been trying to get that open crump for months! Tried all sorts of hydration levels, flour, gluten development techniques. They all helped get there but...my quest is over, the shaping just did it!! Crazy good results!

  • @estievorster2065
    @estievorster20653 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely stunning bread

  • @killerjones1
    @killerjones1 Жыл бұрын

    So easy to follow...love the sound of your folds.

  • @eleigar1
    @eleigar111 ай бұрын

    This was such a visually pleasing video!

  • @blkstarr826
    @blkstarr8262 жыл бұрын

    I love that this is pure, close up demo, without talking.

  • @aaronfaucett6442
    @aaronfaucett64423 жыл бұрын

    Very serene and relaxing video. Thank you for not talking

  • @chance1986
    @chance19863 жыл бұрын

    Good demo and fun to watch. And a great example of "baker's hands" handling sticky dough.

  • @Arrogant_Chicken
    @Arrogant_Chicken3 жыл бұрын

    I made 2 seperate artisan bread doughs after watching your video. I cooked one last night, the 2nd one is getting a 2 day fermentation in the fridge (baking it tomorrow). I followed your directions/example on folding and shaping the dough. I didn't get the maximum oven spring but it was so much better than all the times before. I don't have a proofing basket so I heavily floured linen tea towels. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    So great to hear this! How did the loaf turn out that got the extra day in the fridge?

  • @losFondos
    @losFondos2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this tutorial! Very easy technique, perfect results, I'm going to use your method for tomorrows bread, hopefully I'll get similar blistering and oven spring:)

  • @zoerossi46
    @zoerossi46 Жыл бұрын

    This is a gamechanger for me !🤩 Thank you so much

  • @edoardo2
    @edoardo2 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic dough, great hand skills, perfect bread. Thank you for showing us your techniques! Big ups from Italy

  • @user-xs3sl4fx6q
    @user-xs3sl4fx6q3 жыл бұрын

    Видно без всяких слов опытные руки. Творческие руки. Руки артиста!

  • @ImForgivenToo
    @ImForgivenToo2 жыл бұрын

    WOW !!! beautiful breads !!!

  • @salishseaquest7952
    @salishseaquest79523 жыл бұрын

    Love to watch the gentle handling and touch when shaping. Think that that is one key to getting such lovely results. Thanks for sharing your methods.

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :) 💕💕💕

  • @laurafrench7315
    @laurafrench73153 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this fantastic video! I’ve been making bread for about 3 months and this is the best and most helpful video I’ve seen yet!

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful to hear!

  • @hostesswiththemostess7082

    @hostesswiththemostess7082

    3 жыл бұрын

    We are really excited to start maiming bread videos too

  • @SilkesWelt
    @SilkesWelt3 жыл бұрын

    It look amazing!🌺

  • @chefjdog
    @chefjdog Жыл бұрын

    I just got your cookbook Bread Toast Crumbs. I LOVE IT! You have been my guidance with recipes during my sourdough journey. Will you ever consider doing a book with starter recipes? I know your site has a great catalog, but I love supporting other chefs and I love the way BTC was put together. Lovely.

  • @maryan74
    @maryan743 жыл бұрын

    UNE MERVEILLE!!!❤ MERCI🤗

  • @fischek
    @fischek3 жыл бұрын

    amazing skills, perfect bread - thank you, I am giving it a go in 15 mins or so :)

  • @chefpizza4677
    @chefpizza46773 жыл бұрын

    As a baker lol I love this, no explain. I’m just understanding

  • @JD-lx3zq
    @JD-lx3zq Жыл бұрын

    Dang, probably top 5 most enjoyable bread bids

  • @zermomia
    @zermomia3 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done.

  • @bethw5998
    @bethw59983 ай бұрын

    I agree with others: great video, to the point, and great hands too!

  • @nicojuarez8599
    @nicojuarez85993 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know were to pay attention, it was perfect in every spec 😍 the blisters, the crumb and that crust OMG.

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Nico 🙏🏽💕

  • @Indrabudiwati
    @Indrabudiwati3 жыл бұрын

    Nice crumb love it 😍

  • @Comecenacozinha
    @Comecenacozinha3 жыл бұрын

    Simple tips, but it's work. That's the way!

  • @nadyak1168
    @nadyak1168 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful loaves

  • @jklphoto
    @jklphoto Жыл бұрын

    Amazing loaves. If this is 12.7% KABF I'm really impressed. I believe your whole process is spot-on, not just your shaping. So many factors have to come together to achieve that crumb. I'm still trying to perfect mine. Thanks for the video!

  • @DianaMoon11428

    @DianaMoon11428

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that particular bread flour difficult to work with? I am struggling with it to get a good crumb, but I'm not an experienced baker.

  • @stefanb.5126
    @stefanb.51263 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful ❤

  • @betspath
    @betspath2 жыл бұрын

    No flour on towel! Love it!

  • @pogokiri
    @pogokiri3 жыл бұрын

    i'm a professional baker and wow your breads looked fantastic!! i love the bubbles on the crust and the cut sound too. very nice job!

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awww thank you :)

  • @LordRubino
    @LordRubino3 жыл бұрын

    Deliciously good! 😍🤤

  • @sbkir
    @sbkir3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome and the first loaf had a happy face.

  • @tiagosinclair-julio4180
    @tiagosinclair-julio41803 жыл бұрын

    Wow those blisters!

  • @Arrogant_Chicken
    @Arrogant_Chicken3 жыл бұрын

    😍 BEAUTIFUL!!!😍

  • @LisaHausten
    @LisaHausten Жыл бұрын

    You are the best! I love all your recipes and videos! Do you have a recipe for a 75% whole wheat sourdough or a multigrain sourdough bread?

  • @terrichhun6500
    @terrichhun65003 жыл бұрын

    Perferto scoring plus the results is great! Thank you for making it look easy.

  • @pbainbridge
    @pbainbridge6 ай бұрын

    So good. Cheers. Xxx Sydney.

  • @mumssimplerecipes4245
    @mumssimplerecipes42453 жыл бұрын

    Wow, Thanks

  • @tatooetugo
    @tatooetugo3 жыл бұрын

    Perfecto bread

  • @kitchendeliz2495
    @kitchendeliz24953 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I am looking for. Gonna try tonight. Can you please explain the routine before shaping stage? How long was the bulk fermentation and how many S&f / CF during bulk fermentation? Thank you so much

  • @lizvillegas6603
    @lizvillegas66033 жыл бұрын

    I could almost smell the fresh bread when you sliced it 😍 5:07

  • @mohamadsajadpour716
    @mohamadsajadpour7162 жыл бұрын

    Woow... it's amazing *__*

  • @rgrim7409
    @rgrim74098 ай бұрын

    The reveal was beautiful. The giggling in the background no doubt was indicative of someone getting a piece of Mom's next loaf of bread. Only one observation. Please get safety razors. You gave me the willies with the two edge one. Home Depot or Lowes.

  • @tomatojuice12
    @tomatojuice123 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Just wow. Gorgeous. You are a badass. Will look out for more videos of you. Thank you.

  • @bullshark1152
    @bullshark11522 жыл бұрын

    Awesom Bread..

  • @jvallas
    @jvallas3 жыл бұрын

    Those blisters are also killing me.👍👍

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @laigigikitchengg673
    @laigigikitchengg6733 жыл бұрын

    Oh nice 👍

  • @ww090ww
    @ww090ww3 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful 😍😍😍

  • @josephdelcastilho1509
    @josephdelcastilho15092 жыл бұрын

    Wow all of that void space looks so tasty😳

  • @peicardozo
    @peicardozo Жыл бұрын

    Alexandra, thank you for sharing your shaping technique. Beautiful loaves there! I do have a question. What kind of work surface or cutting board you’re using on this video? It looks bigger than the regular size wooden board.

  • @daggymation
    @daggymation4 ай бұрын

    Hi Alexandra, thanks for your extremely useful video. I have a question, the preshaping you did at the beginning, was it after the dough raised for the 1st time, or after the 2nd rise?

  • @cathyhanley8658
    @cathyhanley86583 жыл бұрын

    I could almost smell the bread. I don't know which I like more, the bread or the children giggling in the background.

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awww thanks, Cathy :) :) :)

  • @monaabbas4783
    @monaabbas47832 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a great tutorial..Can you please tell us what percentage starter you used ?

  • @tatooetugo
    @tatooetugo3 жыл бұрын

    Magnifique

  • @lanceblack888
    @lanceblack8884 ай бұрын

    Fabulous

  • @atouchofa.d.d.5852
    @atouchofa.d.d.58523 жыл бұрын

    You had me at crunch hello!

  • @joycabrera461
    @joycabrera461 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the vid! How is it that the bread did not stick to the towel during shaping? Was it a wet towel or does the cloth used for the towel matter?

  • @joefarmer7727
    @joefarmer77273 жыл бұрын

    Both breads really are perfect. I think no flour in shaping and in the banneton helps alot for the blistering and open crumb. But most doughs would stick to the banneton. But I will try less flour during shaping and banneton rest.

  • @karlurbach7635
    @karlurbach76353 жыл бұрын

    I've gotten some fairly good open crumb forming boules, but you just gave me the last piece of the puzzle-form batards not boules (always with a light touch of course). I subscribed immediately!! Thank you so much. I'm using a marble slab as bench, but I do have wood. How do you keep the dough from sticking to your hands? Small amounts of water? I'll watch all the rest of your videos. Thanks again.

  • @jcoyier

    @jcoyier

    5 ай бұрын

    Same question, and also keeping the dough from sticking to the surface? Doesn't look like you're using water so I'm guessing olive oil??

  • @d0nn13m0n0
    @d0nn13m0n02 жыл бұрын

    Does the simple sourdough video linked in the description use the dough recipe as the loaves in this video? Beautiful bread by the way. I can tell that those hands have shaped some bread!

  • @curtisholsinger6023
    @curtisholsinger60233 жыл бұрын

    How could anyone down vote this? That bread was BEAUTIFUL. I will definitely be referencing this when I make batards again, thank you!!

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Curtis 🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @richmay3929
    @richmay39292 жыл бұрын

    Okay, I’ve finally found the best sourdough artist! Do you use convection?

  • @mikeburzynski5333
    @mikeburzynski53333 жыл бұрын

    Wow!!! How is it possible that the dough is not sticking to anything? Please tell me what bread flour do you use 🙏

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi! I use King Arthur Flour's bread flour. Flour sack towels are amazing (links above) in that dough doesn't stick to them.

  • @ChipSuey207

    @ChipSuey207

    3 жыл бұрын

    A 50/50 mix of AP flour and rice flour works well too.

  • @Missticc

    @Missticc

    2 ай бұрын

    Ime, using perfect (scale) measurements your dough doesn’t require any flour when shaping or working it.

  • @JJones-ox5ed
    @JJones-ox5ed Жыл бұрын

    What is the wood surface you are working on? It seems very smooth and shiny.

  • @mollyaileenfitzgerald8400
    @mollyaileenfitzgerald84002 жыл бұрын

    I have been looking for a cast iron bread baking covered pot for so long….would you be inclined to share where you found this one? Please. It seems perfect.

  • @karimkaram7597
    @karimkaram75973 жыл бұрын

    For healthiest bread try to use whole duro wheat flour at least 50%. More difficult to work with sticky thick less bubbles inside but tasty and last longer

  • @heididisanto2990
    @heididisanto2990 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful. My questions are:, do you bring the cold proofed dough back to room temp before scoring and baking, or do you bake right from the fridge? Have you had luck using a baking sheet and steam vs. the Dutch oven? Thank you!

  • @r_hal93

    @r_hal93

    Жыл бұрын

    No, cold dough is soooo much easier to score

  • @crantang1
    @crantang13 жыл бұрын

    hi, thank you! Is this the Simple Sourdough Bread, Step by Step recipe? How much starter do you use? The recipe says 50g to 100g. What's the hydration of your starter at this step? The part where you say "Let it Rise," how long do you let it rise, and at what temperature? The step where you transfer it to a straight-sided vessel, you cover it. How long does it stay covered, and at what temp before you perform the first stretch and fold? How long is the total bulk fermentation period and at what temperature? How cold do you keep your refrigerator? In my very limited experience, precision is so important when working with wild yeast, hence all the questions about time and temperature. Thanks in advance!

  • @kdross6328
    @kdross63282 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! What was your bulk fermentation time an temp?

  • @bubbleobill267
    @bubbleobill2673 жыл бұрын

    Damn, I need to lift my baking game........

  • @nataliarotari6320
    @nataliarotari63203 жыл бұрын

    Amazing!!! Fantastic, I am impressed about you breaking dish that you have! tell me please where did you buy it from? thank you for video

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!! It's a Challenger Bread Pan: challengerbreadware.com/product/challenger-bread-pan/?ref=alexandracooks&campaign=ChallengerBreadPan (affiliate)

  • @nataliarotari6320

    @nataliarotari6320

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexandraStafford oh my God i want it!!! thanks

  • @lindawilson3071
    @lindawilson30713 жыл бұрын

    What’s the secret of those crazy wild beautiful blisters. I bake in cast iron Dutch ovens and I like a liter colored crust so I bake almost entirely in the Dutch oven with lid on. It still browns but not so dark. I don’t get many blisters.

  • @artvandelay1555
    @artvandelay15553 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alexandria. Have you done any stretch and folds before this pre-shape and final shape or only let rest in containers for bulk fermentation and either way how long of a bulk ferment? Thanks for the tutorial.

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi! I do stretches and folds at 30 minute intervals for the first two hours after I mix the dough. Then nothing else during the bulk fermentation. I link to the recipes above, and there are videos for each of those recipes.

  • @ral1783
    @ral178311 ай бұрын

    Are the cloths pre-floured or how do you prevent the dough from sticking to them during final proofing?

  • @abhishekbhansali1377
    @abhishekbhansali13773 жыл бұрын

    I never get that clean scoring @4:05 no matter what blade or lame I try. Am I shaping improperly or is my proof game off point?

  • @ivanasenov6439
    @ivanasenov64393 жыл бұрын

    Hi, amazing video and bread ❤️❤️❤️ Can I ask if I use plastic spatula can I do the same job without metal one or ?

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi! Do you mean a plastic bench scraper? The tool I am using for shaping? If so: yes!

  • @ivanasenov6439

    @ivanasenov6439

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexandraStafford thanks a lot :)

  • @ZjriderRider-gq1cq
    @ZjriderRider-gq1cq6 ай бұрын

    Beautiful sourdough, So when you pull it out of the fridge you don’t need to let bread warm up?

  • @Dave-kv1is
    @Dave-kv1is3 жыл бұрын

    That bread is beautiful ! I'm just starting out and my starter will be ready soon. Do you have a link for the recipe you used for this bread ? Thanks !

  • @richmay3929

    @richmay3929

    2 жыл бұрын

    She used 75% hydration for this batard, so for 2 loaves her recipe was: 1000g bread flour 750g water 150g live, active starter 20g salt

  • @LittleYeasty

    @LittleYeasty

    Жыл бұрын

    @@richmay3929 thanks

  • @LifeasaGift
    @LifeasaGift3 жыл бұрын

    I love the results👍👍Do you bake straight out of the fridge?

  • @AlexandraStafford

    @AlexandraStafford

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! No need to come to room temperature after a 24-hour proof. Simply score it and bake it!

  • @susannemoore3254
    @susannemoore32543 жыл бұрын

    How do you stop it from sticking to the cloth. Thanks

  • @msb1301
    @msb13013 жыл бұрын

    What gadgets are you using to film yourself while working? I'm quite intrigued as to how you do it haha?

  • @stonewarebirds3620
    @stonewarebirds36209 ай бұрын

    If bulk fermentation has been paused overnight in fridge, is it ideal to then shape and still prove in fridge for 24 hours? Bearing in mind 24 hours has elapsed since load was started?

  • @ThePhilbox
    @ThePhilbox8 ай бұрын

    What is the hydration in these? That's some nice shaping ;)

  • @mihaeladog7187
    @mihaeladog7187 Жыл бұрын

    Aha, I knew I do someth wrong . I was almost decided to quit .I’ll give it one more try .

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