I (still) appreciate the tactic of using a cultural juggernaut like Breaking Bad to teach your audience about an obscure but relevant movie from the 1970s

@jonbongjovi1869

2 жыл бұрын

she's amazing! but she's too amazing! i don't think I can keep skimming her videos.... I want to do laundry with her and go grocery shopping with her and listen to her talk all day and night, and look at her hairdos every day. (being a man is a living hell.)

@icecreamforcookies

2 жыл бұрын

For real!! I am being mind blown and need to find punishment park!

It's weird that KZread calls them "Community Guidelines" despite no one in the community having a say in what they are or how they are enforced.

@oof-rr5nf

3 жыл бұрын

overthrow youtube when

@Tairneanach

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought that meant "guidelines for the community to follow", not "guidelines made by the community".

@MrJohndoakes

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tairneanach The "community" being the advertisers, who are chicken.

@imafraidicantdothat.9203

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJohndoakes Funny you sound just like the right wing incels.

@riz3310

3 жыл бұрын

@@imafraidicantdothat.9203 Hitler would probably also say the sky is blue, agreeing with him on that wouldn’t make you a Nazi.

Its funny how worse the violence looks when its blurred like that. Censorship is weird.

Guess I'm watching this whole thing again FOR JUSTICE.

@JustinGrays

3 жыл бұрын

As am I!

@tleilaxu42

3 жыл бұрын

FOR MARTHA!

@DavidB75311

3 жыл бұрын

For Werther's Originals!

Here's to a world where the discussion of violence is often considered more obscene than the violence itself if it can be (reasonably) ignored.

@gamma4524

3 жыл бұрын

im curious as to if she is trans? cuz if she is damn i literally didnt suspect

@matthewmcneany

3 жыл бұрын

​@@gamma4524 I have it in my head that Maggie identifies herself as Queer from some throw away lines in some of these video essays, I assumed that meant gay/bi but I may have misunderstood but also it's none of my business. As far as being trans, it's not a question I would consider regarding someone who hadn't volunteered the information one way or another regardless of whether they're a public figure or not.

@BradsGonnaPlay

Жыл бұрын

@@gamma4524 what?

I'm struck how the cops in Punishment Park even brag about how the game is unfair to the documentarian - they know it's rigged, and they're so confident that they'll get away with it that they actually brag about it at the same time that it's fair. They see that there are zero consequences for openly lying.

@brianbuch1

Жыл бұрын

That's real life down at the courthouse. Cops lie all the time and those who could do anything about it: Police brass, prosecutors, and judges know it. But they also know what they serve, and it's neither law nor order, but domination.

@adolfodominguez1857

Жыл бұрын

This literally happened for real in a documentary called The Act Of Killing

@John-hh5kx

6 ай бұрын

Like covid vaccination and the lgtt lab made 144 genders

I liked in the original video when Maggie perfectly recreated iconic scenes from Breaking Bad with herself as Jesse, Sigourney Weaver as Walter White and Zoe Saldana as the blue meth.

@MaggieMaeFish

3 жыл бұрын

Thank u, thank u

#releasethefishcut

@actionrabbitgaming3248

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 😹

Wait, so KZread's problem was it depicts (fictional) police brutality, in a way that is far less violent and brutal than the news? WOW.

After having watched Punishement park because of the original video this second watch is gonna be so interesting to watch!

@BigDaddyWes

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think I've seen someone use "watch" three times in one sentence before

For anyone who didn't catch my comment from last time, even if you finish the video (and thus know how Punishment Park ends), it doesn't make the movie itself any less worth watching. It's truly excellent and, if you're up for it mental-health-wise, I heavily recommend it.

No! My comment that got liked by Maggie about her sweater is gone now.

@MaggieMaeFish

3 жыл бұрын

RE-LIKED !!!

@BigDaddyWes

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaggieMaeFish HAH! Gottem!

I’ll just say what i said last time: Despite having years of analysis and dissection done on it, this is the best examination of Breaking Bad I’ve ever seen.

I really really want to see Punishment Park but at the same time I don't know if I can handle it at times like this. As a Chilean, every single clip you show (in this cut and the original one) look way too real. Like, not exaggerated or fictional at all.

@Dorian_sapiens

3 жыл бұрын

Cuidate, camarada. La lucha en Chile inspira a todos los que luchan por la liberación. ❤

I assumed that all the explicit, immoral and frankly disgusting content was cut out but you're still dunking on my wonderful caramel pebbles!

@markkalsbeek5883

3 жыл бұрын

Edited the spelling mistake out but that unpinned it :/

@toshomni9478

3 жыл бұрын

@@markkalsbeek5883 I know. that's some delicious candy. There really is no accounting for taste.

Pssst, let’s tell everyone how naughty, and filthy, and bloody, and gory the original video was, so they would be jealous and think that we, who saw it, are cool, alright?

@Dorian_sapiens

3 жыл бұрын

I will never be the same after watching the original version. It shocked me to my core.

@JanaeSmith

3 жыл бұрын

I had it bookmarked to share and then it went private and I was like FAK EWE TUBE!!! So I'm glad it's back up so fast, thanks MMF.. I'm a crack'd carryover.

@thrisbt1

3 жыл бұрын

i cannot tell a lie ...the best part of the unedited original for me was the 10 whole seconds of full-frontal nudity of M.M.F.

@CourtneyCoulson

3 жыл бұрын

I am so amazed she got Bryan Cranston to appear, but I guess it's clear why he got cold feet about that footage in the end. But wow, I won't soon forget it. It was bold.

@mistert5620

3 жыл бұрын

Remember when Darkseid showed up in the video? That was insane! Man, I'm so glad I got to see it when I did

My aunt and uncle have worked law enforcement my whole 30 year life, the stories they'd tell me... it makes me wonder what narratives they projected on some of these people. That scene where the officer is asked if he had ever killed a man, and if he felt anything: the chill down my spine in knowing some of those stories from my own family members gives a palpable dread to me. You seen that movie Parents? That moment the kid realizes his parents are killing and eating people? That sort of pain and fear. Thank you for being rad Maggie!

@soulknight5330

4 ай бұрын

I finally completely get the meaning behind the saying… *Fuck da Police*

The KZread Cut of the video

@Dorian_sapiens

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao, perfect!

@snoa18

3 жыл бұрын

RELEASE THE MAGGIE CUT

@SimGunther

3 жыл бұрын

@@snoa18 What if this is already the Maggie cut to mock the vagueness of KZread's rules that make it so if a "controversial" video that obviously breaks its rules, it can stay up so long as it rakes in lots of money but the moment Google deems it "not profitable", the video can be blacklisted or removed for innocuous reasons not stated in the guidelines?

Ms. Fish I love your work like an innocent victorian child loves a shiny penny, but how DARE you besmirch the sweeten condensed joy that is Werther's caramel. The candy of happiness and serenity. Aside from that, a wonderful video. Congratulations!

I just noticed the book is upside down.

Well, might as well watch it twice

@gumtree541

3 жыл бұрын

same

17:37 obligatory "They're Minerals!" reference.

this video was really uncomfortable to watch specially the punishment park bits but i appreciate that that's the point. walter jr. is one of the only non-inspiration porn disabled characters i can think of played by an actually disabled actor. and even though i never watched breaking bad i appreciated his presence on the show (i have cerebral palsy like rj mitte) and your discussion of his character. also, your character in the beginning of the video reminds me of a young log lady from twin peaks.

This is technically a "new" video release so i'll take what I can get .

I'm still shocked by Werther's being called tasteless the second time around.

@garycossins4714

3 жыл бұрын

I was shocked by them being called American.

UGH the rules suck, especially when it isn't clear what they are... but wait I have a reason to watch this again, so it ain't all bad 😎

I cannot thank you enough for turning me on to PUNISHMENT PARK and Peter Watkins: my new favorite movie and director.

There is a certain amount of genius in the "enh-unhh" at 0:42. A nuanced subversion of expectation coupled with the reminder that we all do things we aren't happy about, yet accept them because we are trained to and, at times, even praise them because there are more important things to focus on at the moment. I still love the yooper PBS character. I can't even begin to express the breadth of fanfic she has propagated in my mind. You rock, Ms. Fish.

I would have just embraced log lady and used a log to censor all the "bad" content. But then, the owls are not what they seem. Once again though, this is another brilliant video essay that is incredibly relevant and needs to be seen by many more people. Thank you for introducing many of us to Punishment Park!

Having now committed to watching this a second time, I remember I literally owned one of those Heisenberg sketch T-shirts in highschool oh god i was *that* guy

This makes me quite curious about the casting and writing for Punishment part. It feels so real and spontaneous, without anyone looking at the camera by accident, and the individuals really owning their dialog. I am torn at being super impressed if this was dialog that was written, or super impressed that this was dialog the members of the movie felt. Excellent, excellent juxtaposition.

Still getting a well, well, well-deserved like. And another watch. The original was rattling but in a good way. Thank you for introducing Punishment Park to us.

Oh I'm SO MAD (cracking up here) at myself for not finishing the original! I had it up as a tab for the past days because it was so nutrient dense, I was trying to pace myself... FRAK!

Welcome back, video!

@fad23

3 жыл бұрын

Still hoping you'll get that lauded Werther's sponsorship.

Sucks that this got age restricted. I'm glad you found a work around to preserve the essence of your analysis 👍🏿

This video is so good I watched it twice. (thank you for mentioning the inherent ableism in capitalism!)

@MaggieMaeFish

3 жыл бұрын

@TheEndKing

3 жыл бұрын

Hey man, are you John Carmack?

@jonbongjovi1869

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheEndKing No - - that's Joey Carmack. ("John" is his legal name.)

KZread told me if I left a comment on every single video on the site they'd explain why the original upload was age-restricted. Surely this is a promise they will keep and not an impossible task that gives the illusion of fairness. A mirage, if you will.

It's quite amazing that they will glorify shows like Breaking Bad but we'll demonize movies like New Jack City. I wonder why🤔 I'm just kidding I know exactly why. One has always been glorified in this society for their misdeeds because it's often times characterized as heroic versus another group who if they do anything wrong even if it's for a good reason they will be criminalized.

I like how you fully quote references, there's so much substance in this review. My takeaway is that we forget our frailty, and reminders of it are easily misconstrued under our favored pretenses. Thank you for taking the time to teach. I had not and maybe would have never recognized my own cognitive dissonance that I experienced watching breaking bad if not for this.

Yes, youtube, I will gladly watch this again.

Love the Velma-esque voice you use during your onscreen scenes. Anyway, definitely a video that leaves you staring at the wall when it ends. Good stuff.

Release The Fish Cut

Giving it a second and third watch to make up for the taking down

Your work is always worth a second viewing!

I remember noticing that. Every now and then Skyler would irk me, then I’d stop and think “Wait a minute, she is 100% right though...” it’s crazy, says a lot about how I was raised...

at 13:02, I think Walt only allowed Jesse to be killed because of how angry he was at Jesse. Hank had just died and he blamed Jesse for it

Wow! Never heard of Punishment Park before this video. Basically binge watched your channel and watched Sorry to Bother You and Punishment park. That's viewer engagement you can be proud of.

I Love the way you articulate complex ideas. Huge fan! Thanks for continuing to create.

I can't help but to come back to this video once in a while. I continue to be amazed by the messages within those two pieces of media but also with your analysis which has made me see Breaking Bad in some different ways. And some of the things I already felt and thought put into words I couldn't find.

I HIGHLY recommend a watch of When The Wind Blows for anyone curious about super serious British depictions of nuclear war. It has a children's book style to it, one instantly recognizable even if I couldn't place the author, and is downright chilling in how far it goes with that art style.

@HuplesCat

Жыл бұрын

Threads

Fantastic video as always, MMF. Glad I got the chance to watch the director's cut!

More Maggie is always great! Love you!

Why the hell was the original taken down?

@MaggieMaeFish

3 жыл бұрын

youtube said even though it didn't violate Community Guidelines, they age-restricted it anyway... and wouldn't say why.

@LowFlatRate

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaggieMaeFish It's because you're immoral.

@Jish00742

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaggieMaeFish Very transparent and cool, youtube

Nice to see a new video from you.

This was a very smart way to get people to watch a video talking about a movie few people know.

My friend and I are pretty anti-system. So thank you Maggie for giving us a new movie to watch. I'm sure he and I will "enjoy" it very much (if you could say that about a movie in which communists, feminists and blacks are brutalized, but I can't think of another word)

Such a well crafted video. Kept me engaged the whole way through.

Excellent! Thank you! Always doing good insightful analysis

Have watched a few of your videos, but this is the one that convinced me to support you on Patreon. Thanks for your excellent work.

phenomenal video essay!

I've watched all your videos at least twice by now anyways, might as well get a head start on this one! I refuse to eat the Werther's again though.

amazing job...thank you so so so much for this video ...so eye opening

Just discovered your videos. Really good content. Thank you for making it.

Thank you for making this video! And sharing punishment park!

Commenting again for the AlGoRiThM! Came here for the excellent sweater, stayed for the excellent commentary 🤩 I'd watch so much more of this "Films in Conversation" show!!

I have War Game/Culloden on DVD. Gotta see Punishment Park now.

I haven't seen this movie, but the plot reminds me of the philip k Dick book Flow my Tears, the Policeman Said. It was a terrifying book and much like the movie appears to still be very relevant. Anyways awesome content as always.

Oh my god FINALLY someones talking about Walt Jr./Flynn. He's honestly one of my favorites in the show for a bunch of reasons, but seeing someone look into the angle of ablism and its intersection with masculinity in relation to him is so nice. Thank you for bringing it up and pointing out soem details I hadn't even noticed!

Another brilliant analysis, thank you for turning me on to PUNISHMENT PARK.

i will not tolerate this slander against werthers originals i love those fucking things. also i discovered your vids recently and theyre very thoughtful and epic. probably gonna end up binging all of them this week

Still a great video, love your work.

This video is so good I keep coming back to it

Thanks for the thoughtful video

While rewatching this for probably the fifth time, I JUST realized that Peter Watkins is also the guy who directed The Media Project, which I watched for two different Media Ecology classes in college, that just blew my mind. I've watched Punishment Park numerous times since this video introduced me to it, and I had no idea it was also the directors one of my favorite media ecology documentaries, tho gun to my head I couldn't name a second documentary in that field

@MaggieMaeFish

Жыл бұрын

I talk about The Media Project in my video on Loki/Tarkovsky!

@TroutBoneless

11 ай бұрын

@@MaggieMaeFish I'll have to rewatch that one too!

Nice to see more KZreadrs bringing attention to Breaking Bad. Such a great show, I'm not sure how it flew under so many people's radars. Really wish it had gotten the attention it deserved while it was running, but maybe it'll have a second life in syndication.

What a prescient, engaging and well written essay. Wanted to applaud at so many points. I hope anyone watching really thinks about what they’re listening to and watching. The weight of the subject matter being tackled on this channel is awe inspiring and inspirational if a bit difficult. I feel like this show was a lesson to society in general. The juxtaposition (or lack of) in Punishment Park couldn’t be more fitting. These lessons on what not to be and why should be something that gets through to more people and that we should act on in our lives. These unfortunate but necessary modern allegories continue through the shows spin off, Better Call Saul. It’d be interesting to see what this channel could clear up around the messages there.

For anyone watching through Maggie's back catalogue: 1) You can watch "Punishment Park" for free here on KZread (just search I'm not gonna link and risk it being taken down by copyright) and a 2004 interview with Peter Watkins about the film. 2) That's not how you pronounce "Culloden" but Maggie's Calliope Syndrome here should be forgiven because of how good the rest of the video is (for future reference the "o" is supposed to be a short o sound closer to - Cull-uh-din).

Commenting to own the algorithm

Hope this video gets some good views as well. Great content here Maggie.

Never gonna not read that as "Pub-Guh" now

Man, youtube needs to chill out once in a while.

I'm mainly leaving comments on your videos for the algorithm. Regardless, being a European and having lots of contact with American (specifically USA American) media, but wishing to have more knowledge on the historical background, cultural heritage, and folklore behind its elements, your videos are wonderful educational material. Thank you for all the effort you put into them.

Woah Punishment Park is way too raw,I'm shaking in anger and helplessness.

This some good content yo. 11:00 tho, I dont know if I feel like that depicts the reality of what was going on with Jesse and Jane, I mean it fits the metaphor really well, but other than that this is some MINERAL SOLID stuff, subbed

It's pretty easy to imagine one of the tribunal members stating that the people they were sentencing were spouting "alternative facts" and "fake news" and that they "just don't want America to be great," unfortunately. A little too relevant these days. Need to check out this film; I had never of it before this. Great video, as usual!

next "films in conversation" could be about the American City. Robocop & The Wire maybe.

I can't believe I missed this, another brilliant video. I'd like to make a video on two films that are loosely connected

I love your silly opening and closing segments

Great video!

Fantástico. Todo lo que empieza con Bach y un tesoro "de cabeza" solo puede ser bueno. Gracias por hacer pensar.

I enjoyed the hell out of Breaking Bad, but i think i agree on your take on the ending. Like, once it was over it was like, "well, alright, time to do sometbing else now". Its inspiring me to check out Punishment Park. Also, the punk nerd in me learned of the origins of some samples that were featured in hardcore punk/grindcore songs (Discharge - Cries of Help samples The War Game; Magrudergrind - a few tracks off their self titled album feature samples from Punishment Park). Great video!

Well damn, now I'm going to have to watch this again!

This is my favorite videos of yours, grumpy it got taken down! :(

I love watching the commercials all the way through, knowing it will help boost the potential Adsense 😍 Love me a second viewing!

I'm sorry the original got taken down but I don't mind watching it again.

Welp, I'm gonna watch this again.

I'm assuming this was edited for monetization purposes but fuck it I gotta watch this banger of a video again. Keep up the great work Maggie!

Haven’t seen punishment park but every clip of it in this video is so incredibly ahead of it’s time. Sadly

No one uses a pool on BB other than once and that is the suicide attempt that fails. It is a sign of wealth and power yet unused, unappreciated, and often a distorted lens on reality

I felt throughout Breaking Bad that it always did more to indulge Walt's pathology than criticize it. By the end, yes, his journey is a cataclysmic tragedy, but it is also at the 62 40+ minute episodes that are primarily about the triumphs and pitfalls of becoming a drug kingpin that is ultimately built around Walt's inability to deal with his own impotence. Punishment Park seems better because it is less than 40 hours and doesn't spend the whole time wallowing in the same stupid mentality that it supposedly hates.