Walking with Cavemen - Review
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20 Years ago, the documentary series "Walking with Cavemen" was released and it is has received very mixed reviews over the years, but how does it hold up today and against its fellow "walking with" peers?
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To be fair, the Megaloceros design being reused can be justified by the fact that the design was already pretty accurate, so they didn’t really need to change it.
@Eli-pi4eh
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I honestly don’t have an issue with the design being reused or the animations either. If they work, why would they waste resources making new ones?
The US version of Cavenem is just a documentary. No person is there.
@pbh9195
9 ай бұрын
I know I never even knew Winston was supposed to be in this show
@newjojosupercutsandmore2489
6 ай бұрын
Yeah I was confused watching this review at first lol
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the Neanderthal hunting method here is probably more accurate than the one in Walking with Beasts.
@davidegaruti2582
5 ай бұрын
yeah , proboscidians are more clever than that ...
Robert Winston is a beast of host, and I'm not saying this in a bad way, he's a PaleoMenace and I love it! xD
It's a very strange show. I'm always in two minds about what I feel about it. Interesting to see the human evolution but also it falls short of being matched with the other Walking With shows. Robert Winston is one of the weirdest people you will ever encounter. Love all the references and jokes you've put into this masterpiece of a video. Fantastic work and dedication to this forgotten show. Bring on Sea Monsters!
When the review is more entertaining than the show itself. 😂 Also love the Robert Winston theme! - The ARC Minister
I have learned that the further this series went on, the more unhinged Winston got.
23:49 One of Hodgepodge's best freakouts
Each to their own, but I liked this series a lot. I don't really have any issues with the things you're bringing up. I liked the fast montage way of explaining all the science and what is going on and the soundtrack was at times spectacularly beautiful.
@HodgePodge7
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed them!
I think Robert Winston is an entertaining host. Yes, he’s not Nigel Marven, but he has enough passion for the adventure to keep me invested.
I personally consider Walking with Cavemen to be an equal part of the Walking with trilogy, strange choices and all. It probably helps that the German dub of all 4 Walking with series contains the same narrator (Austrian actor Otto Clemens), keeping consistency between them.
Such missed potential with the host, would have loved to see what it would have been like as another Nigel Marven special.
You’re right, Nigel Marvin would have been a much better candidate
I don't get the obsession with reusing models between shows. To me, it always improved the immersion, not the opposite. It made the creatures feel more real. If they always changed between shows, I would be like "Why does this animal look different suddenly?"
@kernowpictures2002
3 ай бұрын
It’s because of budget reasons because animation ain’t cheap
I loved this series. Professor Winston was well chosen to narrate. His involvement elevated human evolution, our greatest story, to more than just TV entertainment. The facts came from over 110 Scientists which became a good book. The make-up was fantastic and Alan Parker’s score is an unrecognised masterpiece. Overall, it was £4 million well spent.
I first saw this series when I was eight and even though it definitely isn’t as great or epic as the other “Walking With…” documentaries, it did inspire my love for early humans. It also inspired France to make their own version of this at around the same time, only with (probably) a bigger budget, and not only that, but they made it its own trilogy and even expanded on it a bit. The first film, “L’odyssée de l’espèce”, was dubbed into English and released as “A Species Odyssee”. The CGI is really not great, but from Homo habilis onward the humans are played by actors, and the interesting thing is it actually portrays Habilis as already having some kind of proto-language. It’s a really good film though and I highly recommend it. I don’t know if the second film was dubbed into English but the third one one was. The second film focuses on the global expansion and psychological development of our own species and the third film focuses on early civilisations. The director, Jacques Malaterre, later directed the film “Ao, the Last Neanderthal”, which is pretty great too, and I actually can’t help but notice that a lot of the designs he uses for the humans both there and in the “A Species Odyssey” trilogy seems inspired by the 1981 film “Quest for Fire”. I actually haven’t seen that film but from the clips and the trailer it looks amazing.
@HodgePodge7
Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this before; I might have to check it out myself!
@DocumentaryFanboy
11 ай бұрын
I loved A Species Oddyssey and Homo Sapiens. They were released on DVD in Croatia and I got them both as Christmas presents. It was one of my favorite things to watch growing up. I had no idea there was a part 3, can't wait to check it out
16:37 In their defense, they might have meant in the sense that it’s a giant ape, larger than modern primates, not a giant gorilla, per se.
hodge podge posted another review letss goooo, also do you plan on reviewing dinosaur planet? It will turn 20 years on december
@HodgePodge7
Жыл бұрын
Mayyyyybe ;)
i grew up with the american version. it doesn't have winston in it at all. its 2 45 min parts, narrated by alec baldwin, like you mention, and has each species a little interstitial of him walking around a studio museum poking at the skeletal remains of each species as he explains a bit about them. i learned there was an orginal british version years ago, but i wasn't aware of how weird it was with winston "walking with cavemen". its so odd to know that he was just always hanging out the whole time off to the side, but just not in the version i got. i just rewatched it for the first time in, i guess 20 years? its ok, and it contained a good bit of nostalgia for me. overall rewatching the show as an adult wasn't quite as enthralling as it was when i was a kid, and i found myself wanting more in depth exploration of the neanderthal and early human period. the end of the show kind of feels rushed. like "ok lets wrap this thing up yada yada yada eventually its us you get the idea." honestly most of the show feels like its written as a high school level research paper. maybe thats a little harsh, but there's something a little unprofessional about how its thesis is delivered. idk, i'm still mostly enjoyed rewatching it. and it led me to your channel afterward, so cheers!
This year is also the 20th anniversary of Chased by Sea Monsters, are you going to a review on that series because it’s to awesome to miss! 😎
As for Walking with Cavemen and my thoughts on it, it's pretty good but yeah not as much as the other entries in the series. Also I've heard this series is actually a sequel to Beasts since it sort of picks up where Next of Kin left off.
I remember the last 2 episodes fondly, but the first 2 were hinging on the uncanny valley
Does anyone know about the Nigal Marvin cut they made?
I enoyed this review, even though my reaction to the series is that it's a fairly average documentary with some interesting facts and plenty of odd quirks. But still, pretty far below the main Walking With shows. After the oddness of this one, I'm looking forward to your review of Sea Monsters: A Walking With Dinosaurs Trilogy, now that should cover us for long-awaited Nigel Marven content!
My father has owned a german copy of the german dvd version. It compiles the show into a two-part movie that emits much of the unnecessary shenanigans that the host gets up to and he serves as more of a "point-of-view" character
@HodgePodge7
Жыл бұрын
Oh interesting, I wasn't aware of this!
@paulprasek1475
Жыл бұрын
@@HodgePodge7 it is probably much more bearable than the original version. Certainly worth looking into.
Another great video! One thing I really appreciated was the fact that ''Neanderthal' was pronounced correctly! I know it shouldn't bother me, but it does, so I'm happy when someone gets it right!
Are you doing Walking with Monsters? I think thats better, its back in the style of the other two, with a narrator. I guess it would just be one reaction video for all three as they are not that big or complex, but it would still be interesting to watch
Are you going to review Walking With Monsters?
It’s the only part of the Walking With Series i haven’t watched, I genuinely want to give it a fare shake one day, because I always want to give more maligned parts of franchises some attempt of love, so while it seems bizarre, I want to give it a try
@HodgePodge7
Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's worth watching at least once
there was a 3 part verion that was on netflix but i can't find who narrated it or what version it is. i'm not sure if it's a re-cut of the andrew sachs version or someone completelty different. It's no longer on netflix i was wondering if you knew by chance.
@speedracer2008
8 ай бұрын
It's the Andrew Sachs version.
I didn't have any issue with Robert Wibston, but after you described his actions in the show, I just can't see them the old way now.
6:50 The reason why Winston placed Lucy's body by the watering hole is so that her body can be fossilized in the future.
In the German edition all the scenes where Winstons speaks were removed but we still see many of the other scenes you descibed.
Are you planning on reviewing Walking with Monsters next?
Sea Monsters and Walking with Monsters??? When you doing them?
I'd like to correct your statement about the BBC replacing Nigel Marven with Robert Winston. Yes, Nigel Marven WAS going to host Walking with Cavemen, but that was for the American version that aired on Discovery Channel, which Alec Baldwin ended up hosting. Robert Winston was always meant to host the British version.
I imagine walking with Caveman Would had been Sahelanthropus Orrorin or even Ardipithecus
Winston is ironically hilarious. In a weird way, i think i like it more that hes here 😂
Can you show us your Dinosuar doco and Primeval dvd collections? 😊 Love the channel brother
@koopajuniorsavannah5170
Жыл бұрын
Love it too
They started making the WWC 10 years before my birthday which was on 2013 March 27th.
@BlackCappedChickadee
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, ya made the video on my 10th birthday
I didn’t remember there even being a host.
I always remembered documentary about lucy being pregnant and having a lover of red leader then died because she walking into deep river and drown from it.
Every time you talk about the weirdest part from Robert Winston i had laughed alot and it so harlarious 😂😂😂
@snm_nendra
Жыл бұрын
23:36 THIS IS MY FAVOURITE 😂😂😂
@snm_nendra
Жыл бұрын
22:13 He is an animal 😂
@snm_nendra
Жыл бұрын
21:10 with the neanderthals stared at him with angry faces
As an American I was spoiled with the superior American broadcast with Alec Baldwin. He's just a host in a studio museum set whose presence doesn't impact the wildlife. Robert Winston obviously ruins the immersion and "Walking With" feel that the series was known for.
Episode 3 or 4 could've had an individual video especially episode 4 but still a good video.
The sequel is Walking with Monkei!
I dislike them putting people in it. Sure, Sea Monsters and Prehistoric Park are fun and iconic (loved them as a kid snd still do) and Nige will forever be linked to that, but there's a loss of immersion there that you just don't get with Dinosaurs or Beasts.
I adore this documentary
sir Robert Williams Has got to be the weirdest presenter in any media
Others have done reviews of savage family with clips from the episodes. There were never any problem with the nudity
We actually dont know which homo species we descend from in the 2nd episode
No love for the music from Alan Parker? I think it's on par with Ben Bartlett's score for the other Walking with series. I especially love the music that plays when Winston tells us about how Homo sapiens use art to convey their thoughts of the world around them. It sounds both sad, yet hopeful, letting us know that, despite all that humanity has lost in the last 7 million years, they still have success to come.
The black sheep of the Walking With family.
24:22 LMAO
I think I’ll stick with Walking with Dinosaurs, Beasts and Monsters and Nigel Marven thanks.
Replacing nigel unforgivable!
Personally I don't necessarily think Jurassic Fight Club is trash, I can understand why a good number of people hate it. But it's kind of a lie to call it a "documentary series" when it's more of a what-if scenario series, the show even says that what happens in the episodes are just depictions and possibly not how it actually happened. After all, bones only tell so much of a story so we have to fill in the gaps as best we can. Whether they end up right or wrong will always one way or another change with time. Again I understand why people hate it, but it shouldn't be called what it isn't.
@HodgePodge7
Жыл бұрын
That's fair. I used to love it but I feel its just over the top and unrealistic.
@kylecollier7569
Жыл бұрын
@@HodgePodge7 that is indeed true.
So THIS is what Alec Baldwin did after his time on Thomas the Tank Engine... ... Quite the downgrade if you ask me :/
Cavemen was very weak. Non of the epic had a storyline. I didn’t enjoy the seres either.
Regrettably the US version is so hard to find