I'll give credit to Mary and Edith. They didn't march in and tell Sybil not to marry the love of her life. They were actually quite accepting given the circumstances, and encouraged her to stick by her principles and follow her heart. Sybil really brought out the best in those girls. 💔

@KoiYakultGreenTea

4 жыл бұрын

It was more bad timing. They didn’t outright try to convince her of it because they knew she’d only get defensive and retreat. They wanted to gently convince her of it but see if she was serious about him. But yes they were remarkably gentle with her. Mary’s concern was that Sybil would run away. She wanted Sybil to be accepted by her father. Not to elope marry above board and at peace in the family. She wanted peace and harmony but she knows her sister is stubborn even if she could talk her out of it. Even if she disapproved

@TimStamper89

3 жыл бұрын

I mean mary full on said shed try to talk sybil round.

@MsJubjubbird

2 жыл бұрын

@@KoiYakultGreenTea If they get married at Gretna Green too then he gets all of her money and she owns nothing, as men owned everything their wives brought to the marriage and marrying at Gretna allows them to marry without notice, objection or a settlement for her to keep some of her money. They would have concerns that he is a gold digger- you know seduce the bosses' daughter, marry her and then disappear.

@KoiYakultGreenTea

2 жыл бұрын

@@MsJubjubbird no I doubt it. Because Sybil was prepared to elope with no money and no possessions and no connection with the family. She was prepared to burn her bridges as both of them knew the family would never approve. So they already know Branson isn’t in it for the money. Plus he’s a socialist so he’s less likely to accept any money since he hates the aristocracy for his own pride. That’s why nobody ever really had any concern that Branson wanted money. Robert was only prepared to offer him a bribe to leave as a last resort which of course surprised no one that he refused even money

@MsJubjubbird

2 жыл бұрын

@@KoiYakultGreenTea there are a lot of socialists happy to take money. She would still have a fortune of her own set aside. I mean it turned out he did love her but there would be that initial suspicion and risk until they got to know his true intentions. Especially as, her being 21, they didn't need to go to Scotland to marry without permission. If it had turned out he didn't love her it would be too late.

I liked Tom and Sybill, but honestly I didn't start loving Tom untill after Sybill. His friendship with Mary is one of my favorite relationships in the whole series and the way everyone in the family starts drawing to him as the voice of reason and support is amazing. Tom should have been given more screentime and more interactions with either crawly sister and the rest of the family in the later seasons. Would have been great to see him interact with the staff more as well. His actor and Thomas Barrows actor seem really good friends in real life at least on set. So it would have been great to have those 2 characters interact more. But I suppose the writer of the series didn't love Tom and his potential as much as I did. A pity, because he really became a great character down the line. Less hot headed, but still a man of principles. Just more reasonable and more aproachable in those principles. And again, his friendship/brother sister like relationsip with Mary is one of my favorites. He was one of the few characters that seemed to both know the real Mary and love her, withoud putting up with her bullshit nor glorifying the earth she walked on. He was her equal mentally. Somebody that could speak up, yet also support when needed. Scold, and forgive. Tom loved Mary, flaws and all. Characters in downton, as well as many fans of the show, either seem to hate Mary, or worship her. Tom is one of those few who just treats her like a human being.

@joannedenney5608

4 жыл бұрын

I loved Mary and Matthew as a couple, but in a way I thought Mary's and Tom's personalities matched better. If Tom was of higher social standing and came from an aristocratic Irish family I could see Mary going for an Irish rebel in her twenties.to rebel when she initially was so against the idea of marrying Matthew as she as a woman couldn't inherit her father's estate properly despite being the eldest. I loved Mary and Tom's relationship after Sybil passed in the series, but I would've thought romantically Tom's stubbornness matched Mary's better than Sybils.

@faezahazmi

3 жыл бұрын

i agree with this.

@PJChgo1

3 жыл бұрын

@@joannedenney5608 I thought for a time they were hinting at a Mary and Tom pairing. I felt they had much better chemistry than Mary and Henry, or Mary and anyone else since Matthew.

@X_nien_vh

Жыл бұрын

Agree! Also the bromance between matthew and Tom🥺❤

My favorite Downton couple. I really wish their relationship had been given more screen time and development.

@maryannlockwood7806

4 жыл бұрын

Same. 😒

@fish-fingers_and_custard7685

4 жыл бұрын

Same :)

@janinealvia1848

2 жыл бұрын

I was heartbroken when Sybil died. I really thought it was premature just like Matthew's death.

@christinecatt5391

2 жыл бұрын

@@janinealvia1848 According to British newspapers..they both asked to leave the show.. They chose not to renew their contracts..

@LoveDayandAge

2 жыл бұрын

@Marisa Mee I will not forgive them for it

"You won't mind burning your bridges?" "Fetch me the matches." I Love those lines. At that moment Lady Sybill gave in to her heart desires.

I miss this couple so much

I actually love this moment because it shows that when it comes to protecting family, Mary and Edith are a united front.

Brenson had if not the best, one of, character development in the whole of the series. At first, he was quite narcissistic, very sure of himself, and as badly as I want to forget that, he thought that Sybill had to choose between him and her family. As if they were his complete enemies. Then, after Sybill died, he really understood the meaning of family, and how much he was wrong to think of them as lowly as he did. When both of those ladies thought that “If Tom could, I can as well.” and tried to turn him against his own family out of greediness and jealousy, he made the right choices to get them out of his and the family’s life. He loves all of them, and wants everyone to live peacefully. Remember when Mary told Edith’s fiancé about Mary-gold, he was fuming! Never have seen him so angry! He really became one of the best characters in the series.

Branson was rude when he criticised her work.

@gee2541

3 жыл бұрын

he was rude to her alot

@Madamoizillion

14 күн бұрын

Yeah I always thought he took advantage of her naivete. She was so selfless and he allowed himself to be selfish since she was more flexible. It was a romantic storyline but also frustrating because of that. But it seemed like her death pushed him to become a better person.

I think it's touching how much Mary and Edith tried to protect Sybil at all costs

When she died. I cried and cried!! For a fucking ficticous character.

@LucyLovettLestrange

3 жыл бұрын

I can't even bring myself to watch that episode

@Vesnicie

3 жыл бұрын

Her death scene was one of the more brutal I've ever seen.

@happycook6737

3 жыл бұрын

She is very real onscreen and seems like a true person. I cried too.

@Indygo24

2 жыл бұрын

You’re not alone. 😭😭😭

obligatory comment on how much I miss Sybil

Everyone saying he pushed her into it but half of this clip is basically her constantly going to visit him. Like halfway through she asks him to wait a bit while she makes up her mind. I think he IS pushy, he's persistent but he never tried anything without her consent. He saw her as she was, bold and free, and kind of dared her to give them a chance.

@eleanor7

2 жыл бұрын

He's passionate and she does keep popping in and having private conversations with him. She doesn't give him away and she doesn't tell her that it's not going to happen. She softens more and more the more she spends with him. She shows concern for him, she flirts, she's jokes, she stands close to him, she seeks him out, so yes Sybil was romantically interested in him. Plus Tom is best suited for Sybil in the long run. She didn't want to be someone who just sat around and did nothing, she enjoyed nursing and doing something with her life. She wanted to help others and make a difference. Tom was a perfect person for that. The one person who sees the world more as she does, while the others were eager to get back to how things were.

I can't forget how MUCH I cried when she died. The worst and the best scene that gives me chills even now.

I love that Mary and Edith ultimately attended Sybil and Tom’s wedding in support of their sister.

He is really kind of selfish to expect her to leave everyone she loves. I'm glad he became more likeable later on.

@kimberlytyrcha5930

11 ай бұрын

I think he's very selfish. After they're married, when they come back to Downton for Mary and Matthew's wedding, all he does is argue with everyone. He doesn't have the proper suit for the wedding and refuses to get one. This is Sybil's family and he is totally unwilling to compromise. They're all just supposed to cowtow to him.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

9 ай бұрын

@@kimberlytyrcha5930 Right, good thing he wisened up after that

@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween

Ай бұрын

@@kimberlytyrcha5930 Wasn't he drugged for half of that?

It's so funny that out of all the sisters (plus Rose), Sybil was the only one who waited until marriage.

@tejaswoman

Жыл бұрын

Never once thought about that until now. And she was 21 in these scenes!

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

9 ай бұрын

Nothing funny about that...

@marionarda2790

8 ай бұрын

​@@tejaswomanshe was OVER 21 . This was 7 years after the 1st episode . Sybil was not 14 ( already greeting guests , no governess, long dresses) then

I love Allen Leech as Tom Branson.. such a gorgeous handsome actor. Wish he make more movies. I love downtown abbey, wish they did continue the sequels ..

am i the only one who loves branson so much

@maryannlockwood7806

4 жыл бұрын

🇮🇪No. Count me in. 🙋🏻‍♀️

@monicao.46

4 жыл бұрын

We all do that brave love story sends him up there with one of the best characters of Downton

@kennedy78

4 жыл бұрын

Love him so much Tom Branson is a real man

@m.layfette6249

4 жыл бұрын

The story arc of Tom Branson is one for the ages. Despite his rise in Social Standing he forever remains the Irish born rebel that's ready to challenge the status quo. I Love in the #DowntonAbbeyMovie how he does Not bow to the King and Queen. #RebelwithaCause

@fish-fingers_and_custard7685

4 жыл бұрын

@@m.layfette6249 so true!!

I know Tom really loved Sybil, but did he take her seriously? He kind of dismissed her work as a nurse and when Mary and Edith arrived to the room, he made it look like a "stay or leave me forever" situation, not to mention that he put her in danger later on when he sough protection in Downton and left Sybil behind...

@tejaswoman

Жыл бұрын

The one thing I will say in his half defense is that apparently there was at least a deleted scene in which he apologized for his comment about nursing. That doesn't change his having made it, but it softens that aspect slightly.

@MsJubjubbird

Ай бұрын

sometimes activist think they are more insightful than everyone else because they are fighting for a case.

They're the reason I was excited to follow the series every season, best couple in Downton.

The attraction between Tom & Sybil is obvious. Their love for each other is true. But the reality is that Sybil was the one risking & sacrificing for their relationship not Tom. Sybil was sacrificing her status & risked tarnishing her reputation. As a women of the 19th & early 20th century, reputation was everything because it literally followed you to your grave. No matter the class, if a women of that era were perceived to have an indecent reputation she was blacklisted everywhere she went. Remember the maid Ethel from season three & the efforts Edith made to hide Marigold. Where as with men all they got was a frown & a head shake. Tom could play reckless because he had no status to loose & simply put he was a man. Sure people would gossip about him but he wouldn't be blacklisted & shamed like a woman would be.

@amandadublin3129

2 жыл бұрын

As an Irish republican falling in love and marrying a member of the British aristocracy is hardly going to help Tom's standing in his social circles.

@stonem0013

2 жыл бұрын

@@amandadublin3129 It isn't ideal, but it would still attract far less scorn than Sybell would

@amandadublin3129

2 жыл бұрын

@@stonem0013 Mary had that guy die in her bed and Edith had an illegitimate child... The Grantham's were actually unrealistically chill about scandal. In the end they even took Tom in... and he ended up being everyone's favourite.

@stonem0013

2 жыл бұрын

@@amandadublin3129 the dead guy was treated as a HUGE potential scandal and her mother was most definitely not chill about it

@amandadublin3129

2 жыл бұрын

@@stonem0013 The initial comment was that by being with Tom, Sybil was sacrificing her status and risking a tarnished reputation... Whereas Tom had nothing to lose. I'd say that marrying the daughter of an English Lord wouldn't be idea for an Irish republican and actually the Grantham's get over their daughters indiscretions pretty quickly. In the end Tom seems out of touch with his family, while the Grantham's remain tied.

If he really loved her, he wouldn't degrade her nursing efforts for the army. She was contributing and proving she was capable on her own. That's the first thing that set me against this pairing. Tom was needy, controlling and didn't appreciate her.

@coffeebean8790

2 жыл бұрын

Sybil/ Tom fan here. Did you know that there was a deleted scene where Tom apologized to Sybil for that comment? If you look at the script book that they published for Season 2, you will see that it is there. The fact that so many fans like you love to cite that comment as a reason why they don't like Sybil and Tom as a couple really tells me that not including that scene was a fail on the part of the writers and editors.

@anwyn9846

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! She loves her work and she should be proud. Him saying she's just bringing drinks to randy officers is a low blow and untrue. He gives her ultimatums, etc. All red flag behavior. I can't believe I used to love them, lol.

@izzyy6469

2 жыл бұрын

When I watched the show at age 15 I loved them as a couple and had a huge crush on Tom but 7 years later I see that he was indeed a little manipulative at the beginning and really pressed her into the relationship. I don’t think Sybil didn’t eventually love him but at the beginning he was kind of a jerk and I’m not sure what she saw in him for a while

@SjofnBM1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@anwyn9846 I mean it was the 1910s you can't use today's ideals for a relationship back then it's kind of disingenuous

@iateyursandwiches

Жыл бұрын

​@Izzy M I mean I think it was a mutual transactional relationship in a way. She her self saw him as her "ticket" to travel and get away. He saw and knew she was a free spirit and that's what interested him about her. At the very least, you can arguing they were both using eachother in a way. It wasn't so uncommon for marriages back then to be pretty transactional anyway. You're not giving sybil enough credit

Mary was surprisingly wise and perceptive in these scenes. Much more likable than usual.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

9 ай бұрын

Darling, she IS very insightful and wise on many occasions, you just let your antipathy cloud your judgement. Remember, how she accepted Tomas' homosexuality, how she was accepting of that Black singer race but still aware that he and Rose had no future together, how non-judgemental and generally progressive she was. Yes, she also could be snobbish and cold, but people/characters are complex like that.

I'd love a clip of when Violet gave Robert his puppy Teo

"Isn't that the car?" Must be convenient there are only like 4 cars in all of Downton, and 3 of them belong to their family.

Honestly the couple on Downton I miss the most!! They were so adorable together!!

How bold of Branson telling Sybil that she's in love with him!

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

9 ай бұрын

It's not bold, it's presumptious and taking her voice away from her. Would you love man (even the one you love) telling you how you feel?

she deserved such a better love interest tbh

Mary used to annoy me so much, but she really grew on me with how she championed Sybil and Tom’s relationship.

Mary saying "Good God in heaven" sounds so much like Robert 😂

@LucyLovettLestrange

3 жыл бұрын

Robert has said such stuff through out the show actually

@vai280194

3 жыл бұрын

@@LucyLovettLestrange that's the reason I said it.

@12classics39

Жыл бұрын

Mary takes after Robert the most and Sybil takes after Cora the most. Edith is a blend of both of them.

I know their relationship develops more over time, but I guess what never really sat well with me is that she never really seemed to be romantically invested in him at the beginning. She talked about “getting away” and rolling up her sleeves to work like she does during the war, but never really about her feelings for Tom. She literally calls Tom her “ticket” before she ever even says anything about even liking him.

@frankelder1158

3 жыл бұрын

I have this feeling too. Never understood how some people regard them as a great romantic couple.

@hannahdyson7129

3 жыл бұрын

She never tried to understand his views or his side of the story 🙄. I always found the sweet sybil line a bit over stretched . I thought she came across as whinny and immature at times . Dont get me wrong she was my favourite character but she had her flaws.

@gee2541

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankelder1158 same

@katherinewilson1853

2 жыл бұрын

@@hannahdyson7129 Same!!!!

@eleanor7

2 жыл бұрын

I never saw Sybil as a romantic like Edith or even Mary was. She would have been more interested in a friendship and mutual respect that could build into love.

I will never forget this couple. Rewatching the series right now and they will always be my favorite.

"What work? You bring drinks to a lot of randy officers.…" Can't move past that.

I couldn't stand Branson for the first three seasons. I love Sybil so much!!! I liked him in later seasons.

@zeebee8527

3 жыл бұрын

They really did a poor job of rounding his character out in early seasons, not much at all to soften him, or make him particularly sympathetic or even make his relationship with sybil really not look like he was just willing her into it, for some political revenge.

@yamiyugipokemon99

3 жыл бұрын

In later seasons, Branson became one of my top favorite characters. Seasons 1-3 I wasn't sure I liked him or not.

I love Sybil!❤️

This was my favorite couple on Downton Abbey.

oh!!! the best couple!! they both have so interesting and independent characters. I was so disappointed when Sybil died. Its not odd that they didnt find a woman for Tom all these years. Sybil is irreplacable! I loved the way Tom evolved through the years, but i am sure we would have seen more great things if Sybil was still alive. so sad we all left with a "why" and a "what if?" ...

@micheldejong1813

4 жыл бұрын

To quote Hugh Bonneville: 'What can I say; she wanted out!'

@georgetteg4712

4 жыл бұрын

@@micheldejong1813 Unfortunately!

@sayhello5377

3 жыл бұрын

They did in the Downton movie. ;)

@someone3187

9 ай бұрын

It was a big mistake for her to leave

He waited so long to hear you are my ticket out. He didn't hear I love you an want to be with you. Geesh

2:27 Lady Mary's eyebrows are masterpieces. Even drag queens do not draw them this high and yet on her they look really natural.

Everybody swoons over Matthew or some other guy in the series but Branson has always been that one for me. Meow!

I totally love them! They are my favorite DA couple! 💕

People really didn't understand what Tom really meant about Sybil's work. He's not completely wrong at this point in the story because at the time she returned to Downton and her job as a nurse was limited to giving blankets and drinks to soldiers. She was more important at the hospital than at Downton. I think that's what Tom was talking about. And above all, he says that all this is just a detail, because abandoning her job as a nurse at Downton was not the end, she could have found this kind of work elsewhere. That's why he talks about details, because for him, at this precise moment he is not sure that she is in love with him. There's nothing selfish, he didn't despise her. He waits for an answer even though he opened his heart to her months ago. And that she continues to come see him, spend time with him. Tom admired Sybil, loved her unreservedly, and waited for her. And he had a form of frustration because, between the war for Ireland and his love for Sybil, he still remained lost in doing things right, for his convictions and her. While knowing that in the scripts, Tom apologizes for these clumsy words. He didn't want to judge her work. He is a good man, a wonderful man, and we speak of troubled times and war, including in his own country where he hoped for freedom. Stop seeing evil everywhere. They were young people with dreams of a different and better future.

Tom and Sybil are really lovely.

I love her. She was my favorite character on the show. I was mad when they killed her off. Then I read how it was her choice to leave the show.

I absolutely hate how he belittles Sybil's nursing work. She was not just "bringing drinks to Randy officers", war nurses were crucial to the war effort, they saved lives and reduced suffering.

@vivianpowell1732

Жыл бұрын

People often say things in the heat of an argument that they don't really mean. Tom was frustrated, angry, and hurt, emotions that had gotten the best of him in that moment. We've all been there. The thing you have to remember though, is that having a reasonable explanation doesn't necessarily guarantee forgiveness.

"It comes down to whether or not you Love me." "The rest is detail."

@KoiYakultGreenTea

4 жыл бұрын

I just wish he was a little more gentle about pushing her to run away. It is a pretty big deal especially for a woman. She’s the one who gets pregnant and raises the kids. She’s the one who loses money and position and family. Branson loses nothing but his job and his esteem with the family. He can go home to Ireland and he still has family and enough money to live.

@m.layfette6249

4 жыл бұрын

@@KoiYakultGreenTea I don't think that Tom pushed Sybill to leave her family. He knew the risks and uncertainty Right from the start. He spent the entire WWI letting her know how he felt and how much he loved her. He gave her time to develop and realize her feelings were True, Ours and Genuine. Her family saw it as a Betrayal, Disappointment, Disgrace that a Lady would want a Chauffeur.

@KoiYakultGreenTea

4 жыл бұрын

Raspberry Dove-Ali he was a little harsh though. Could have been a little more delicate. Not saying Sybil is some wilting flower but it is a lot to ask

@anneofgreengables1367

4 жыл бұрын

No one I agree. He was a bit too harsh. His comment about her work being nothing more than serving tea to “randy soldiers” was uncalled for. Being a nurse then and now is so much more than people expect. She was the only one in her family that actually wanted to do something to help in the war. She was giving these men care and much needed love after all their experiences. And he had the nerve to simplify it like it was a waste. I do believed he loved, more than she loved him even. But he was pretty hotheaded young man during this time and I think that’s why people have mixed feelings about their relationship.

@KoiYakultGreenTea

4 жыл бұрын

Anne Of Green Gables he might’ve been feeling a bit inadequate in the face of her. True though that nurses at that time were nothing more than glorified maids with a side of bandaging and administering injections. But it really isn’t fair for him to minimise her career choices so glibly. But I suppose he wanted to simplify the situation that what she’s doing at Downton is pretty much that and he wanted her to make a choice because for him it’s all or nothing. Because for her she has choices. For him he doesn’t and he wanted to be sure. Still I wish he had been more sensitive. Probably back then men don’t know how to take to women

Many people can relate with their relationship classic rich and poor that were so inlove 💕🥰

I was never particularly keen on their romance. It seemed like all Sybil cared about was just getting out of the house. And here was a guy who wouldn’t take no for an answer even though for the longest time Sybil clearly wasn’t interested in him romantically. But she saw in him a way out.

@mirandajones7816

4 жыл бұрын

Word for word what I’ve been thinking. Exactly. It’s just I try to find in myself some sense of love or passion when I see them in the early seasons but I can’t. Before they got married, every time I saw them, something put me off all the time. Something didn’t convince me there. Like it didn’t fit, even though they had very very similar personalities. It wasn’t until they went back to Downton for Mary’s wedding and then when they fled Ireland and stayed until she died, when they were husband and wife, that I truly fell in love with them as a couple. I then found that sense of passion, companionship, loyalty, respect and true love. The way you find it in other couples, I mean.

I loved this couple so much!

@kimberlytyrcha5930

11 ай бұрын

I didn't like them at all. Tom was angry all the time. There wasn't much about him to love. I really don't know what Sybil saw in him, unless he was just her ticket out of Downton. I didn't like the way he put down her job here either.

I love watching this - the Swan Pub featured as the place where Sybil and Tom are discovered is my local pub. Always a slight thrill to see the sign :-)

I don't like how he dismisses her work.

I don't really understand how everyone says they're the "greatest romantic couple." Tom disregarded Sybil's job and criticised it. Even the fact that he wants Sybil to leave her old life behind and run away with him doesn't sit well with me. If he truly loved Sybil he would accept the fact that her family won't approve of them straight away but still bear with it and not tear her apart from her family whom she loves dearly.

@abshaar13

Жыл бұрын

So true. I always felt like Sybil had to prove how much she loved him. Running away with him, living his life, wanting their child would be catholic and all.He literally left her alone because he had to escape the police. Branson's effort in this relationship was near to nothing, he was rather manipulative.

@juliaalexander5788

10 ай бұрын

He became who he became because of her, doesn't mean he gets it right in the beginning neither did Sybil.

@SneezyReviews

3 ай бұрын

Hmmm. It's been a while now since I've seen the show but I never got a strong impression that Sybil *was* as enmeshed with her family as she suggested she was here with Tom. When she started talking about how difficult she'd find it to leave her family behind I was honestly raising my eyebrows a little. Like... is that what she actually thinks or is that her trying to talk herself out of something she really does want to have? And if it's the latter, does Tom know her well enough to know that? Which I realise now that I'm typing this, is yet another variant of the Macbeth/Baby it's cold outside discourse. And yeah, I'm basically in the pro-agency camp in all 3 scenarios. Macbeth wanted to kill, Baby wanted to stay, and Sybil wanted to run away with Tom. That's how I interpret all 3 examples LOL

I am kinda pissed that we don’t get to see their wedding

Given how their friendship developed, it's wild to revisit this and see how Mary and Tom were almost hostile to each other at first.

@marionarda2790

8 ай бұрын

Almost?

We're being blinded by the love of these two when in fact Tom gaslighted Sybil in running away with him. If you love someone, you would understand and accept everything about her, even how nasty her family can be to you, and you wouldn't take her away from her family who she loves dearly.

@JMac7395

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. You can't tell someone that they're in love. Only that person knows for sure. Yes Sybil found Tom attractive but she was not in love with him. Sybil is a genuinely caring & kind person who puts the needs of others before her own. This was displayed when she helped Gwen. So her worrying about Tom's job is not out of character. But Tom kept conflating certain actions with "being in love". Tom pretty much pushed Sybil into falling in love with him instead of allowing it to happen naturally.

@gee2541

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with the sentiment but “gaslighting” is such an overused word and is constantly inserted in inaccurate contexts.

@Ariarne12345

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah like the first few clips Sybil was saying she wasn't even sure she loved him and they hasn't even kissed yet and he's pressuring her to run away with him... Say what now!?

@SunnyGirlFlorida

2 жыл бұрын

He did seem pretty pushy.

@chanaberlove8720

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's sort of how men were back then. Somewhat entitled, even the poor ones.

I felt like Branson kind of pushed her into this.

@gee2541

3 жыл бұрын

he definitely did

@BeccaEve94

3 жыл бұрын

That’s totally how I feel about Tony to Eilis in Brooklyn

@iateyursandwiches

Жыл бұрын

I mean...he gave her as long as she wanted to decide but sure...s "he pushed her into it." Though she admits to also literally using him as her ticket to travel...

I love the shoes of Mary and Sybil.

Branson was a true gentleman and truly loved her. He was not backing down, that’s why her father ended up excepting him.

I really like Mary's grey dress in this clip!

@emilymatthews5058

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! It really suits her and I love the buttons. It also shows up in season three on Anna as the dress she wears to Edith's wedding, which I've always thought is a lovely and historically accurate costuming choice.

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The way he puts down her nursing work as bringing hot beverages makes me mad.

@kimberlytyrcha5930

11 ай бұрын

Me too. She's helping to take care of wounded soldiers. That's hardly something to make light of.

he smacked her down with that "what work!? bringing hot drinks to randy officers" everytime i hear it im like--

@kimberlytyrcha5930

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. He put down her work, like taking care of wounded soldiers was nothing.

@noonedeservestobeforgotten

Ай бұрын

There was a deleted scene where he apologized and I’m so mad it got cut. 😠

I really like Tom but in this scenes I hate how he talked to Sybill -not respect her work and act like he don't understand what he is asking her to abandon her whole family

Waiting for Sybil, one can wait a rather long wait.

I cried my eyes out when Sybil 'died'. Why did she have to leave the series?

Hey at least she offered to pay the room lol.

Can u please post the scene where bertie and edith get back together at the ritz

I don't think that they loved each other in the beginning. Tom was a bit selfish and attracted to her - her free spirit. Sybil said it when she accepted his proposal - he was her ticket out of a suffocating world. But i think they grew to love each other at they matured....

There so unbelievably perfect together pure trye love it's very rare to find in a program r even in real life

And to think she voiced Lenore from Castlevania, The Dowager would disapprove and Carson would suffer a stroke.

The time Downton used to be good, before they killed off dear Matthew

@sharongelfand5065

3 жыл бұрын

The actors who played Matthew and Sybil chose to leave the show for other career prospects.

@staciecarrel4492

3 жыл бұрын

The show started with everyone on a 3-season contract. When it came time for the actors to re-up the contract for another 3 seasons the actors for Matthew, Sybil, and O’Brien decided to not renew, everyone else did. They had to write them out over the course of season 3, though O’Brien they waited for her character to leave the show in the opening of the first episode of season 4.

I love Tom and Sybil but she didn’t seem interested in the beginning and it seemed a bit forced. I know they develop their relationship over time but that has always bugged me

@kimberlytyrcha5930

11 ай бұрын

I've always wondered whether Sybil really loved him or if she saw him as her way out of Downton and that whole life.

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Forbidden love of up and downstairs of Abbey...scandalous! 😮🙊

here's a couple tat showed pure love and the rest who have slept around and had affairs with all and sundry are opposing them...great ...

1:57 Careful what you say Mary. *TOM BRANSON DA REAL MVP*

I don’t get why they snuck off like that, Sybil could have made up a story about a weekend getaway so she could have left in broad daylight and get to Scotland on the train meanwhile Tom went to Gretna. Sybil could have met him there then they could have married. Then she could have sent the letter from Gretna.

@MsJubjubbird

Ай бұрын

Tom is an impulsive person. It's shown time and time again he doesn't think things through

ok

Good old Gretna Green...

i will never get over them killing her off. never. i couldn't even finish the rest of the series.

@jolijnattema1638

2 жыл бұрын

It was her own choice to leave the series

@cche16

Жыл бұрын

@@jolijnattema1638 ok and? i still hated the decision to kill her character off. it ruined the show for me and i could never get back into it again.

Mary and Edith got long alright during the war and after Mary and Matthew are married, then they hated each other again lol.

I love her sisters stopped them from eloping.Come home and do it properly.

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I miss the dynamic between all the characters and Sybil.

Ugh, not Tom telling her he knows what she feels, yikes...

Odd that Tom and Mary became the best of friends later.

Tom is the most unrealistic of the characters and plot line. Anyone who has read about the time...he would have been fired the first sign of personal interaction with Sybil, and if she ran away with him, shed have been banished. In general he is very rude to his employers. How he rises up in the family is a 21st century fantasy

@MsJubjubbird

Ай бұрын

Agreed. As soon as he threatened her reputation he would have been moved on. But Mr Barrow would have been dismissed for being gay as well

Ann is coming for your necks, scammers! 😂

The relationship dynamic portrayed in this video makes no sense. Sybil has shown no interest yet Tom insists that she loves him. It comes across as him bullying her into it but we are supposed to believe they are in love. It was the only cringiness I felt watching the series.

I wish they hadn't killed Sybil ! She was a very strong woman 😢

Tom and Lucy is a no TOM AND SYBIL FOREVER

Mary is NEVER nice.

It's so stupid .

The royals put me on the spot for a reason. The reason I suspect is desperation and disbelief in the role that you have been playing. Everybody is on the same boat - including yourselves. You have to want to cooperate with the rest of the world in order to make things better 'for yourselves' as well - not just focus on control. This collective psychosis breaks everyone, no exceptions. Nobody is so special to a point that he or she is not broken into pieces. It is what it is; there is no betrayal. You don't have to 'burn our soul' the way you have been doing. There is only one reasonable explanation for this and that is, you have wanted to do it.

This so reminds me of Romeo and Juliet

I hate tom in the early seasons

The only thing I did not like about their relationship is that after they were married, her rebellious and outspoken nature seem to have disappeared.

I never liked Tom & Sybil. I never found their relationship to be believable. An aristocrat marrying one of her family's employees simply wound never have happened back then. It wouldn't have been allowed. I also wonder if Sybil really did ever love him? Does she ever, at any point, tell him she does (I don't remember)? I've always thought that she simply saw him as her ONLY way out of Downton and that whole lifestyle. I also find it hard to believe that she'd be happy and content, after they were married, living with no money. For all her talk about not caring about money, when she said that, she'd NEVER been without money. She had no clue what life was like without money. I find it hard to believe that a woman who had always had everything, from the day she was born, would be content living without it.

@MsJubjubbird

Ай бұрын

It did happen sometimes. Bit often the woman would have lost her fortune and been kicked out of the family. I think a lot of people that age would like to say they are with the poor, but couldn't handle being poor.

Another video that to me shows how mismatched Tom and Sybil truly are

@alyssafoster4765

4 жыл бұрын

Boo

@hippopottermus9856

2 жыл бұрын

No way

I never liked Sybil.

@emmk4992

3 жыл бұрын

You probably don't like yourself either, so I am okay with it.

@harrytodhunter5078

3 жыл бұрын

And how did you come to that insane conclusion?

@knightforbes9545

3 жыл бұрын

@@harrytodhunter5078 Because nobody likes you too.