Hey folks! I've posted a follow-up video with answers to every unanswered question I could find, and tons of new details: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hKqosKquYK6oZqg.html&lc

As a winter indoor runner for 6 months of the year, I’ve been waiting for a game changer in the treadmill space. And holy cow this looks like it. I’m excited.

I’m a cyclist who doesn’t like running much at all - and even I think this is killer. Nice reviewish Ray.

@a_diverge

5 ай бұрын

Totally agree...im driving my wife crazy already. I want one. 😅

@jondashun

5 ай бұрын

Same 😳

@reactionsok

5 ай бұрын

As a cyclist who runs and uses Zwift I would say temper that excitement. One of the things that makes Zwift so great to cycle is the bike community. There are always people to ride with. Not so much with Zwift running. It’s barren out there. Even events are lightly attended. Running solo on Zwift isn’t very fun if not boring. When I see someone Zwift running I get so exited to catch up but often short lived due to pace. I should make a review video…

@tyresejackson9665

5 ай бұрын

@@reactionsokLol stop it. It’s just fine the way it is…free.

@AlexJ66

5 ай бұрын

@@reactionsok I have a very different experience. I am predominately a runner who cycles sometimes, and in the events I run there are at least 20-25 other runners! Always an event on by PACK or someone. Might not be the 100+ you can get in cycling events, but fine for me. Also running is more of a solo activity anyway for a lot of us, head down, music on, not there to chat or draft off others 🙂

Looking forward for Wahoo KICKR SWIM.

@Amtcboy

5 ай бұрын

It’s actually out already,

@andreaonyoutube9560

5 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@mistertroyNZ

2 ай бұрын

lol. Good.

This is very cool, I’m very impressed. I’m equally impressed with having a casual chat at 4:30/mile or running 5:00s up a 10% grade.

“It’s monitoring my package to see where I am” 😂😂

@benshaw2770

5 ай бұрын

Thought I was the only to catch that. 😂

@philharrison205

5 ай бұрын

I wondered if DCR was intimating it must have a really wide light beam.......

@liamkearn

5 ай бұрын

“Looks good but might be destabilised by my package” 😂😂

I'm in awe of how well you could explain everything while your heart rate is 175+. Great job and cool product!

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@victortran247

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. That's so gangsta

that looks like fun

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Indeed! It was honestly the most fun I've had on a treadmill (albeit, that's an incredibly low bar...). Good to see you around here Kofuzi!

I was just on my old rickety treadmill last night and thought about how cool it would be for Wahoo to introduce a smart treadmill. I think it was meant to be. It'll look dope next to my kickr bike.

Ray, YT needs to incorporate a secondary "like" button for anyone who can narrate a video with a 180 BPM heart rate. Anyone who does that definitely deserves their own button!

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Haha...thanks!

Hopefully zwift can bring these features of incline for other treadmills as well! This would make the zwift running experience a lot more enjoyable and interactive. Right now its just running and watching low quality graphics.

Exactly what I’ve been waiting for! Finally!! Great review. Thanks!

Thank you for another amazing review. I've been anticipating a treadmill like this for a while. The concept of how the free-run mode works is truly marvelous!

Yes, I would like to see more reviews like this (treadmills for home use). Thanks

Well, I guess I need to get rid of my sofa to make room for this in my tiny NYC apartment

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

That's the spirit! 😂

Great review Ray, and especially since you are running the pace you demonstrated and managed to talk. Next level! Especially the hill climb just before you are standing off on the sides. Excellent job.

This is an awesome piece of equipment. I love it. Hope that connectivity is smooth. Love the Review.

It is great that you are able to do a "hands on" test of the prototype unit. I have read about this treadmill but your review was the first to see it in action. I really like how you explained how the interval mode worked. So many treadmills don't have a programable interval option for runners and this is very frustrating. I would really like to see how the 1st gen stands up to use as you mentioned as future generations will fix any issues as you mentioned Wahoo has had. Thanks for a great review and look forward to your more extended version later in the spring/summer.

The dynamic pace adjust is revolutionary. Races and runs should now be more like the cycling experience.

What a great reveal! I love the 'auto pace adjust' and the decline seems to work brilliantly. Just as I was thinking that Zwift Run was going nowhere, their biggest tech partner unleashes a true immersive treadmill. Definitely a wish list item 'cause it's not going to be cheap!

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Yup, Zwift seems pretty committed to this, they had people there when I was doing the demo/test, and it sounds like a big list of changes they plan to make to support this more deeply.

@tyresejackson9665

5 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Lol I’m sure they were there. They’re trying to figure out how to charge Zwift runners to use their platform. They should keep things just as they are…free.

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

@@tyresejackson9665 It’s still free…

@tyresejackson9665

5 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Exactly. And it needs to stay that way even if they find a way to integrate these new treadmills with their game. Btw, what’s up with Rolla One/World? Seemed like such a cool running app but they’ve been dragging their feet in regards to development.

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

@@tyresejackson9665 They actually reached out just yesterday again. On my to-do list for this morning to catch-up.

That is seriously impressive! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like these features on a treadmill.

never use this phrase, but genuinely game changing for indoor running and Zwift!

Makes my Technogym MyRun look absolutely archaic at this point

That run free mode is really cool! Great product from Wahoo. Would love to see the price come down eventually when they mature the product a bit more.

These tech treadmills are getting so cool. I would love to hear your thoughts on testing more treadmills in the future....More or less the higher performance ones like this. Great video!

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I've tested a couple that I've bought or had on loan (Peloton Tread & TechnoGym MyRun). Peloton Tread review is up here on YT/site, whereas TechnoGym one was just site-only.

Well done for making this video whilst so sweaty!

this has been a long time coming - sort of surprised it has taken this long...glad to see it.

The free run feature made me want to buy this. thanks for the review.

Great review and impressive to have a casual conversation @ 180bpm 😀

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!!!

@SquashPile

5 ай бұрын

He got that 180bpm zone 2 LMFAO Wow

Half the time you were talking I was looking at your HR 😂 kudos for doing a review this outside of zone 2.

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Hahah...thanks!

Looks like a beautiful machine! I need one!

@jamesvale2508

5 ай бұрын

... But then I got the price point of the video :p

you are a legend ! thanks for that video

After I broke my leg I'm unable to run but I'd so much enjoy one of these. Great review !

this looks so amazing!!

Looks amazing!! An talking in 2:30/k pace that is some next level!! 😮💪

Congrats Wahoo. this thing looks amazing! I don’t run at all. But enjoy rucking uphill on treadmills as my gym warm ups. this treadmill really does look like the future of home treadmills.

I've always hated doing sprint intervals on a treadmill, a few occasions almost falling in fulls sprint as I try to press buttons to slow the treadmill down. This looks like it is so much more natural. Great video!

@egovorch

5 ай бұрын

great point....I was just glad to see it had a interval mode....so many treadmills don't even have a programable interval mode.

Awesome review!

The only thing I didn’t like about this review is that as someone from Europe I have to wait at least 1.5 years to get this. Amazing review and great product.

I don't run, or have any interest in buying a treadmill, but this was awesome. Stopping by to juice the algo with some engagement. Great work!

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! And...so close to 100K! Pre-congrats!

@BreakItYourself

5 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker thanks so much, Ray!

Wow! This is innovation!

Wow. One of these days the Zwift running pace partners might not actually be alone all the time.

this is awesome, innovative!

Have to say i like the way they've just included a small info display & left a table - we've got an older treadmill that still goes well but the screen is so dated. Wahoo look to be getting this one right & the Zwift integration looks impressive. ✌️

I love Wahoo. I love Ray. I love this product. Kinda gutted i've recently bought a new treadmill

Nice work Wahoo

Very cool!

From a tech point of view, awesome tech - massively improving the indoor running experience. Sadly I don't have the space (and money) for such a monster.

This is the coolest treadmill ever. The free run feature looks amazing! $5000 though is way above my budget :(

Great review Ray and like many others who can barely breathe at those speeds I'm very impressed with the narration! This Wahoo looks really good but I don't know if it will do more than hit the market where people can spend what they like on home fitness equipment. There are so many good offerings at that price point that are solid long term tested units. My own treadmill is a more modest offering. Horizon 7.0AT. However it also integrates with Zwift. If I use Kinomap it even adds incline control along with the real world video. Going to the 7.8AT would give a person a larger motor and more features for only $2k. It's a mighty leap to the $5k for the Wahoo but for some the juice may be worth the squeeze.

That thing is cool!

Wow this is exciting! I want this

With snow on the road about 4-5 month out of the year where I live, now that is worth upgrading the Woodway!

Nice to see that something is finally happening when it comes to treadmills aka dreadmills.

Great video as always. How is the cushion? For me running outside feels easier on my joints than most treadmills.

Great review, Ray! What did you think about the running surface? Sounded and looked pretty firm? Was there much bounce? How did it stack up against other decks in your opinion?

Amazing!!

Figures, less than a year after finally adding a treadmill in the pain cave and the exact features I wanted come via this product. Props to Wahoo for building the right things in and getting rid of the bulky head units.

I love to run and ride, I’ve been running with Zwift and adjust my treadmill to match the screen. This looks cool.

I would love this so much, esp. fed up of getting so cold and wet running outside at the moment

At 180bpm, that “like” was well deserved… cool tech; great video

This could be a big thing for the running side of zwift, automatic hills would be great fun and much more emmersive! Zwift could really work with Wahoo to make the game even more fun. I would love to see more running only routes. Half marathon routes, Full marathon routes with segments. Pace partners for the bigger routes so you can train for them. How about a London marathon route 👍or other iconic running routes. The treadmill looks awesome and a step in the right direction. Kudus to wahoo. Ive got a standard treadmill and it does the job with the Runn device but this is on another level, Smooth running quality like a woodway treadmill but with smart features, Amazing!

Now that is a Gamechanger! Only gripe I have is that in contrast to yourself, I love slat belt treadmills and find they work so much better for me as a heavy dude. So I have my fingers crossed that this is gonna be the Wahoo Runner „Core“ to later Wahoo Runner that has a slat belt

BIG Love this.

Awesome! Is it as sturdy as a Woodway? Great to see the app being able to control speed and incline!

i subscribed, and used the bell option, and the like button, not sure why people dont like treadmills, but my gym has plenty of them, of course nothing like this wahoo, the one's at the gym are really heavy duty industrial treadmills, but occasionally they break down for repair, but there are so many of them, the law of average comes into play and there is always one or ten available..

Love the 4:30/mi flex, awesome

@imnotlettingyouseemyname

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was excited because he was running at the paces that I run at. Then he multiplied his speed.

How dare you test this treadmill with less than 18 watches and 12 heart sensors? 🤣 Great video DCR!

This looks very impressive. In the market soon for a new treadmill, this will be on the short list. I love doing intervals on the treadmill, and this seems very well suited. I also love how you can plug in a laptop or tablet, and don't rely on a built in screen that will be the first thing to fail. Pricey, for sure, but all good treadmills these days are quite expensive. Thanks for the preview!

Nice review! Motor size/warranty? Maintenance requirements? Thanks, DC.

That is badass!!!!

Seems pretty cool, and I'm a sucker for toys.... my initial concern was the lack of quick access speed presets, but the "run free" mode seems to solve that for intervals!

Wow, what a machine the free run, camber tilt, and downhill look absolutely amazing., I'd love that in my garage rather than going to the gym. But $5k is way out of my budget 😢 maybe in a few years the tech will drop down to more affordable units...

Is the detection/auto speed unique to Wahoo? I’m not knowledgeable of high end treadmills but it seems pretty cool.

Great Video. You did a great job to get met excited for it until we got the price part which is obviously not your fault. Insane price and unrealistic for most mere mortals. Its more than my Wahoo Kickr 5 with my bike attached.

As someone who has essentially completely transitioned to non- motorized treadmills because of the lack of an upper speed limit and the simplicity of doing short intervals without any acceleration lag, this is awesome. To hear the free run seems to work so well is so attractive and especially for the price point, makes it competitive with the high quality non- motorized treadmills.

Definitely interesting tech. Price makes sense, lots of other high end exercise systems in the same ballpark. Maybe the price will be more incentive for people to run outside

Been thinking about leaps in treadmill technology and how it’s been so evolutionary. This seems revolutionary though

Wow , finally a treadmill for Zwift Kudos for Wahoo

Not a runner and doesn't have space for such a huge unit. So definitely not something I am in the market for. Still pretty impressed. Always nice to see innovation in this space. If nothing else, I hope runners enjoys this unit and that it can help re-vitalize Wahoo.

@imnotlettingyouseemyname

5 ай бұрын

It'll only cost $5000 so you might as well get a couple just so you have them.

Awesome 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

Will be interesting to see how it does. It's unique; a treadmill that provides meaning and ergonomics and realism for what otherwise is about as appealing as a trip to the dentist. So the price seems reasonable for what it is -- assuming it's sturdy and they don't have the reliability problems they've had with the Kickr Climb and one or two other things -- but with the catch that it's well into premium sport bike territory (or several to many years of gym membership -- heck, in the UK and EU you can still find some very solid used cars for that price) and that will put a lot of people off. And lots of people will balk at having a fitness item in their home that weighs as much as a couch....in practice this isn't an easy get for someone in a condo or a smaller house, or with any kind of nomadic lifestyle. That said I sense that not just runners but also triathletes (of which I am NOT one) will find this is going to make the "n+1" equation work a lot better than another bike.

To be honest, for a treadmill the price is not that bad. Especially considering the features. I own an assault runner and can confirm not having to set the belt speed and just run is a game changer. I like the manual ones more because the belt doesn’t slip, but this thing is great news for the very stale treadmill market. It’s gonna wipe the floor with most of the competition.

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Yup, agree, for those in this market (or understanding it), this is actually quite reasonably priced.

Pretty cool. Hopefully it works better than their hr monitor which usually thought I was dead

I'm sure other treadmills with high power motors could chage pace as fast as this does, its just the controls systems people chose for slower ramps. :( Even my Horizon 7.8 AT, which is pretty quick on transitions (it's claim to fame), is glacial compared to the Kickr Run prototype. I hope it launches like this and the lawyers don't ruin it. 😢

amazing

Nice. I like...

so cool

Too bulky and expensive for me at home but if any gym has that kind of treadmill experience, i'm subscribing right away 😅

This is very cool!!! Out of curiousity, do you get the same training benefits from running on an incline that you do running up a hill? My brain can't compute it... are you working against gravity more or no? Also as I understand it running hills makes you less likely to injure yourself at the same effort level as the flat. Is that also the case here?

@y3408

5 ай бұрын

They should be the same I think? The band is dragging you downwards (and backwards) and to not fall off you have to move in the exact opposite direction. I think it is just the frame of reference that is making it confusing (fixed earth vs fixed runner).

This is so cool. I'd love if TrainerRoad had a running app where you could do intervals with this treadmill.

Love to see what the noise is like

As someone who is an almost outdoor purist when it comes to running, even during winter months, there are times where the bad weather is just too much and I end up missing out. I generally don't like treadmills because of the unnatural feeling of running on a platform that flexes and makes a lot of noise, as well as struggling to reach the proper buttons to make changes during sprints. This really had me intrigued until you mentioned the $5k price tag. $2.5k and I might be pondering it.

Very interesting @Dcrainmaker ! Is it a special version of Zwift you were using? With my BH Fitness RS900 which is FTMS 3.0, Zwift does not control the incline (Kinomap does) nor the speed. I thought they were saying "for safety" reasons they were letting the user manually set the speed which makes structured workouts very difficult to do.

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Correct, a beta build.

Arf just USA in the beginning :-/ The kickr run looks and sounds amazing!

I suddenly want to run on a treadmill! That looks so cool! I usually hate treadmills, I try to avoid running on one, 😂😂

Wahoo, you had me at "Crotch Shot". Shut up and take my money.

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

😂

@tyresejackson9665

5 ай бұрын

Lol at $5000 you can speak for yourself.

Great initial review. Thank you! PS. Metric conversion correction: 4:30/m is 2:48/km, not 2:28/km as captioned. 14:16

Any adjustment for shorter runners? Doesn’t appear the side rails can be lowered? Which would bring down the computer stand to eye level.

Thanks for the awesome review. Very cool machine, will this TM be made available in the Netherlands?

@Dcrainmaker

5 ай бұрын

Not till 2025.

@nickjanssen

5 ай бұрын

Good, I can save some money in the meanwhile :-)