'I'm guna settle this right now". (end of video) "you tell me". Haha

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

hah watch the live they all work fine, copper to copper will always be a superior connection wagos are faster

@fordrolet3983

Жыл бұрын

And when you're doing it daily, for bread and butter, speed is a must I'm with wagos

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

@@fordrolet3983 yeah

@marqueswilsonn

Жыл бұрын

You beat me to it. Crap.

@JeffPenaify

Жыл бұрын

@@fordrolet3983Wagos are superior for troubleshoots as well. 100 years from now mfers will be thanking us for using them

As a Brit, wire nuts are such a weird thing for me. Swear by Wagos, especially the 221 range. And even then, regular connector blocks (chock blocks) seem way more convenient than a wire nut.

Americans: Which is better? Wago or wire nuts? Germans: Haven't seen a twisted wire in 20 years.

@djmaster1995

Жыл бұрын

No one cares that you are from Europe.

@schlomoshekelstein908

Жыл бұрын

is that going to keep you warm this coming winter? heheheh

@PreparationH67

Жыл бұрын

I really dont understand how people say that Wagos cant handle US 115V yet somehow all those 230V and 240V supplied houses in the UK and Europe haven't all burned down.

@schlomoshekelstein908

Жыл бұрын

@@PreparationH67 240v uses half the amperage...the lower the amperage, the smaller size wires you can get away with. 110v actually uses bigger wires than 240v. static electricity is 1000,00000 volts... not too many people burn their house down doing the shuffle on the carpet right? go back to school

@bartholomewgreatpants3425

Жыл бұрын

@@schlomoshekelstein908 that is a fantastic burn good sir. Very up with times indeed.

I use both, without any complaints

I always use a wago, after all twisting is not allowed in the UK.

@TheChipmunk2008

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, not recommended, but not forbidden

@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the wire nut identifies as a wago!

@peterpeterson9903

Жыл бұрын

Also in the EN standards so strongly advised against in Europe too.

@dogwalker666

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, Both suffer badly in damp environments.

@MITUK

Жыл бұрын

@@dogwalker666 there is associated products for wagos that are designed for damp areas. Like a lil box with a hinged lid that they fit perfectly in to. Can be filled with gel if necessary. Although that's not practical if you are doing a big installation through a big wet area

I love how electricians get all bent out of shape over Wegos. Lol

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Hah me 2

@xxxNAYBOBxxx

Жыл бұрын

Because they suck

@xxxNAYBOBxxx

Жыл бұрын

Except for light fixtures where they can count as a disconnect

@scottthompson9002

Жыл бұрын

It's the same as plumbers vs sharkbites!

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

@@scottthompson9002 yeah lol! except ZAP vs blub blub

Turn your linesman around they are set for a perfect depth insulation goes to the edge The Cutting Edge is on the opposite side will give you a perfect length for the wire nut

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Good tip

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I work at a fish camp directly on a salt water river. Five years ago Hurricane Irma flooded and nearly destroyed our bait shop. The shop was electrical rehab in the 70s. Mind you it was directly on and over a salt water river. I dismantled much of the electrical before trying to repair after the storm. All the connections were twisted with wire nuts. All the connections were still in perfect working condition almost 50 years later on a salt water river open shop with no ac or heat and bait tanks spraying salt water 24/7 365. 50 years of expansion and contraction and a salty high humidity environment. I’m not sure if wagos would hold up like that or not but I know twisted and wire nuts did. So I’ll stick with twisted with a nut.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

yeah they are a superior connection but a wago won't fail under normal conditions! i like wire nuts myself

@barryallen5507

Жыл бұрын

@@toolsandtactics I like the push in, and wirenuts, but my favorite so far for ease of use is lever nuts! Also made by wago. Makes rewiring a 4 gang or trimming out a shallow switch box so easy

@SnoDawg

Жыл бұрын

Dance with the one that brought you.

@Gunter_Custom

2 ай бұрын

Definitely would not have trusted a wago in a situation like that ..😂

@beekeeper8474

2 ай бұрын

Only if some country has been using them for decades!? Oh wait

Wago 221 lever are the best hands down. ‘Wires’ should never be twisted together it’s rough asf

@classiccarfinder

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@danlux4954

Жыл бұрын

Wires on my house have been twisted for 50+ years. No issues.

@jimutjayadev

Жыл бұрын

Twisted wires provide the best electrical and mechanical connection.

@Alpine_flo92002

Жыл бұрын

@@jimutjayadev Until they untwist because of vibration and are completely loose

@jimutjayadev

Жыл бұрын

@@Alpine_flo92002 Yeah you are taking your house offroad for an adventure to come off loose. The stupid wago connectors add a conductor strip which is just a disaster and don't even get me started on those pesky wire nuts.

well here's the problem. twisted wire nuts have been around for a long time. I've had quite a few wire nuts have to be changed because the wire tarnishes and the connection is lost and or arcs which heats up the wire nut and makes it brittle. the push ones haven't been around long enough for me to find a bad one so it's hard to make that determination.

Remove the wago and you have nearly undamaged wires. Remove the nut, you still have a twisted mess.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah good point

@michaelpowers7744

Жыл бұрын

I agree but weren’t those non removable wagos? I didn’t see lift tabs on it to remove the wires

@Tooboolar

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelpowers7744 Non-removable Wagos do not exist. You twist them and gently pull and the wires come free.

@schlomoshekelstein908

Жыл бұрын

@@Tooboolar lmfao so they don't work worth a shit? good to know

@Tooboolar

Жыл бұрын

@@schlomoshekelstein908 kzread.info/dash/bejne/apel2qaEXa2dcbg.html

Well I am almost 50 years old I've been involved in the trade damn near my whole life my dad was a master electrician I do believe a pre-twisted wire with wire nut installed is 10 times stronger stronger than a Wego can ever be Butt for low-voltage Legos are excellent

@kevinpoore5626

4 ай бұрын

When it comes to low voltage I'm the king of gel caps Which I would consider better than a Lego in my opinion

Wago for lights. Wire nuts for receptacles.

Thank you for "always cut it flush" That's how I was raised. Use them both like them both. I'm an IDEAL twister fan...

I have found when trimming the wires flush, that a 45 degree angle cut is superior. More noticeable when three to four wires are spliced together. 35 years in the electrical trade.

Electricians love bus bars til their inside a wago

Twisting conductors together is such a DIY thing to do, no professional would ever do this in my opinion. Anyone that does this has obviously never done any fault finding or testing where you might need to temporarily disconnect cables.

Except the inventor of the marrette says don't pre-twist, and so does the instructions on your box of wire nuts. Electricians multitool screwdrivers have a tool built into them to twist wire nuts without tearing your fingers up.

Adding to any UK comments - our regs here are a lot more stringent and allowing a company to make a terminal that is foolproof and takes the edge out of termination issues and the liability of cause coming down to that connection issue, the time it saves and the reliability of getting a nice clean connection every time with a visibility aspect of almost a hundred percent of your work, they are exceptional.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

yeah i have been drooling over some of your electrical equipment lol

@T_Perkins

Жыл бұрын

Wago and MK teamed up to make a 3 terminal, 3 leg (L+N+E/G) double socket.. I believe they teamed up... Either way, it exists! , having clamp terminals I find much more appealing than a screw. Would certainly be very good use case in fused terminals for appliances requiring multi strand flex - though, bootlace ferrules are the problem solver for that ATM for cheapness so... However you look at it, a clamp terminals, that can encompass the entire surface area of the Conductor, is the best. I understand hooks and loops, they work, they provide good termination, with screws in every scenario but the technicality of getting It right - there is more to go wrong or can go wrong. Less steps to a successful connection is a more reliable connection. As long as the interconnects are more less prone to error of implementation. Same can be said setting up a home network. If your really into termination and the hardware side of things, there's a brochure of all the industrial (and some domestic) bits n bobs weidmuller (related, but not on topic) does... That was a mind bending 134 page document... From what I know, the Germans, as per usual, are never quite happy that perfection is actually perfection Garbled comments over. Happy wiring

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

@@T_Perkins 😄 Hahaha thanks!! 👍

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

@@T_Perkins I have done a ton of industrial electricianing and work with an old German guy learned a ton Ferruls tc, shields, plrs plcs vfds miss the stuff, superior in every way We used abb switches and mccs Alan Bradley

@sigcrazy7

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know why you think the U.K. is more stringent. I would say it’s just different. For example, you guys double-lug wires as a matter of practice, whereas that is rarely, if ever, allowed in the U.S. Furthermore, >>Ring Circuits

WAGO out performed all wire nuts. Still using knob and peg? Me neither.

@histguy101

2 ай бұрын

These backstab wagos can be pulled off with ease. Try doing that with a wirenut

Wagos for low voltage and Polaris lugs for high voltage. Never had a problem. On the other hand, i actually enjoy twisting wires together by hand. Great arm workout. Lol

IMO only Wago for lighting especially if stranded wire. I prefer Wago for most everything else too but wire nuts ok too as long as wires are twisted together, trimmed properly, and taped to avoid failures in tight spaces. I sometimes will also tape Wago if wires are crammed in a tight space since i feel the arm can be accidentally lifted up with heavier gauges of wire.

The one sticking point I have with WAGOs is that there is significantly less contact area compared to a twisted wire which makes me doubt it’s current carrying capability. I would have no problem using them in low voltage/ low current applications, but for 120VAC, I’ll stick to the wire nuts. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great product but it has its limitations. 👍

@BullCheatFR

10 ай бұрын

Funny how low voltage means different things to different people. I was thinking "right, I wouldn't use wagos for primary wiring"...

@joedanero5360

4 ай бұрын

What are its limitations?

@beekeeper8474

2 ай бұрын

If only if some country has used them for decades

@joedanero5360

2 ай бұрын

@@beekeeper8474 I know where you are coming from. There's idiocy to change in places

Twisting wires like that can cause hotspots, wago all the way baybeeeeeeee

@mattlitton8066

Жыл бұрын

Okay you can say that about hotspots with wirenuts, you can also say wago introduce resistance. everything is give and take.

@Idnrntigzzz

Жыл бұрын

@@mattlitton8066 isn’t a hotspot…..resistance?

@michealplater9007

Жыл бұрын

Twist wire together in Australia, causes no problem

@grantwhebell7730

Жыл бұрын

Robert mcbuilt you don't have a clue what you're talking about

@bigstrongrobertmcbuilt3209

Жыл бұрын

@@grantwhebell7730 lol, please explain how twisting wires doesn't cause hotspots

I don't know why it's a hot button topic lol but I used wego nuts for years now and I have yet to have a customer complain or even have an issue much less. a good wire nut has its place in your box too though.

Wire nuts only hold the wire together in intimate contact with each other, the wagos actually carry current between wires. The wire nut is a better connection.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Proven on my latest video

When I saw him slam the wire down and throw the wire nuts so disrespectfully ....that made me instantly subscribe 🤣🤣🤣💪👍

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks !

Wire nuts every time if your 70 yrs or older. Move on old timer. Technological advances are not scary.

Wago, time=money. Less prep and dress time. That time adds up quickly on larger projects.

Always a wago now if I can 👍

U didnt settle anything. U asked the people what they they think lol.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

lol

@mangini3702

Жыл бұрын

U didnt say anything not obvious, lol

Not supposed to twist wires prior to installing in wire nut. One reason is how would you tell if one of your wires is not engaged with the wire nut? It might not pull out that day but could later. When I did fire alarms some inspectors would fail you if you twisted wires before wire nut was applied.

@joefinley4006

5 ай бұрын

Your wrong about that,,and your inspector does not know code, wires are to be twisted before wirenuts

@Pbell

5 ай бұрын

@@joefinley4006 not wrong, just because people do it and we accept it dosent make it correct.

@jonathanhughes380

4 ай бұрын

you need to follow the manufacturers instructions on the Wire Nuts@@joefinley4006

@histguy101

2 ай бұрын

​@@joefinley4006It's says it right on the box. That's the manufacturers recommendation which the code is built off of. We were taught not to twist 2 or 3 conductors, but 4 or more should be pretwisted, because one or more will inevitably end up in the middle of you dont

wago or ideal lever connectors, anyone who says otherwise is just denying the truth, europeans have safer electrics than the usa as a whole (gfci protection for the entire house for example) and these are used there, if they weren't safe they wouldn't use them.

Push ins are fine but will burn before a twisted wire nut will due to the nature of a push in design . Minimal contact on push ins compared to the twisted wires contact area, there is simply far more surface contact when twisted together.

I always find it hard to believe that Americans think wire nuts are an acceptable form of connection!

@ptravers9077

Жыл бұрын

They are not a bad connection . Having said that I did switch over to wago they are alot faster and I like the shark bite like connection .. if used properly I like how the wago will cut off the live wire if its pulled out.

@brizzle8797

Жыл бұрын

And I'll never understand what makes people like you think you can make a statement like that. for every statement that says oh wirenuts haven't been acceptable for the past blah blah blah well guess who's been using them with no problems that whole time ... that's right. so have fun in Europe. Wagos have their place.

@jamesclarke5331

Жыл бұрын

@@brizzle8797 alright Karen. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings over your precious wire nuts. The guy stated in the video, when he connected the wago. 'Believe it or not, that is a suitable connection'. Like twisting a pair of wires together like some sort of life hack amateur is some how more suitable than using a a connector that has been tested to regulation. The reality is, sparkies who use wire nuts are rough as fuck! And they offer no better protection than wrapping a bit of insulation tape round the join. Maybe come and train a little in Europe you might learn how its done properly 😉.

@jamesclarke5331

Жыл бұрын

@@ptravers9077 Yeah, they're ok I guess when you have 2 wires twisted in them, but anymore, then I wouldn't trust them, and they just look rough. I went to a job once where I opened a junction box and the previous guy had wired the entire switching for the 1st floor lighting in there. It was a right old mess and a could of them popped off and the cables were loose inside. It took me all day to bell out and re connect the lighting so it worked. Got myself a nice little Wago junction box and the lever connectors. Worked like a dream.

@brizzle8797

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesclarke5331 Oh make no mistake you didn't hurt my feelings at all.. It's just that when you make a comment like you made it sets a tone you know what I mean? Besides the point in the video it wasn't even the good kind of wagos that he used because I would be OK with that. it was the Push and stick style instead of the much better lever nut wagos. And that my friend is a discouraged Method of electrical connection here in North America! There are plenty of switches and outlets on the market, more so in the past that you just shove the wire in and that's all and those eventually fail or work their way loose. See you're forgetting we're talking about 2 different countries. you know what else has been tested to regulation... twisting wire nuts! Or else we wouldn't be using them anymore! you're speaking of your regulation which is fine, but you gotta remember where the target audience is and I don't believe the video originated in Europe. but maybe it did and you're right. And by all means go ahead and judge Sparky's if you will, as rough for using wire nuts, but the fact of the matter is it bites into the wire holds them solid and are a 100 times thicker and more protective than thin vinyl electrical tape. So let's not even compare that. I mean my house was constructed in 1940 and when I went through and changed all of the wall outlets guess what was still holding nice and tight?? that's right it was wire nuts! just because some people don't install them correctly doesn't mean we should encourage them by coming up with a more stupid proof connector! Because at the end of the day stupid people will always find a way to overcome and be stupid! Anyhow I'm not trying to change your mind, we live in different countries anyway so keep doing you boo boo. I was just more responding to the general tone of your original comment!

Twisting wires in the UK electrical industry is a big no no. When testing you need to be able to separate them. That's why wagos are used here and wire nuts don't exist here.

"I'm gonna settle this once and for all" "Now you tell me"

@300and2CI

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@stringlarson1247

2 ай бұрын

Right? At least he did a proper twist and used top-quality wire nuts.

When I max out the wire nut capacity, I like to cut the twisted wires at a slight angle. But I do it flush when it’s just 2 like you have it.

It’s not even that I don’t like wago, it’s just that I’ve used the classic twist, wire nut, with a wrap of tape for my whole life. I didn’t even know there was other splicing methods used to be honest. It works, and as long as you twist your wires properly there should be no problems with loose connections, or dropping a neutral. Also wagos are $10 for 12 of them. I can get a 500 pack of Ideal Twister wire nuts for $25. That’s more splices than I’d need to make in an entire job. You might use a 12 pack of wagos in 2-4 boxes depending on what you’re doing. That adds up.

Aussies: *Laughs in superiority*

@crum167

Жыл бұрын

tunnel connectors all the way

@MITUK

Жыл бұрын

@@crum167 link to tunnel connectors so I can see what you're talking about please?

@iamdave84

Жыл бұрын

​@@MITUK you twist the wires together, cut off any excess, then insert them into the connector, then tighten the grub screw down into the trusted wires. Less resistance than Wago, less likely to fall off than wire nuts.

@MITUK

Жыл бұрын

@@iamdave84 I didn't ask

@iamdave84

Жыл бұрын

@@MITUK I posted a link as you requested, but it looks like KZread isn't displaying that comment

I prefer wagos.. wire nuts are great too, but ONLY when used correctly. I can't tell you the number of times I have checked other people's work and have been able to pull a wire out, or bare wires exposed (potential ossue for wago too) With wago, it's pretty hard to mess it up

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point

@dr0n3droid

Жыл бұрын

Nothing worse in the dark than pulling the cover off a 4x4 only to hear multiple nuts hit the floor.

@PreparationH67

Жыл бұрын

This is my biggest thing too. If its easier to mess up or be lazy with then people will mess up and be lazy. Found wire nuts connected by pros that were done right and others that might as well have been DIY. Too much variation in the quality of wire nuts themselves too.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

@@PreparationH67 yeah I agree!

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

@@dr0n3droid haha

Wago has a whole line of parts. Even new stuffs

Been doing electrical repair 20+ years. I've seen wire nuts fail and melt, I've seen WAGOs fail and melt. What matters is what gives you the most consistent quality connection, then use what does that for you.

I do refrigeration and hvac. Ive seen both burnt up in wire chases, sometimes melting up to 20 wires together or open. Skip both and use insulated dead ends or butt connectors

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, those are particularly heavy loads! For general use these work just fine!

Wago hands down the best

@user-lb8do4ew6k

Жыл бұрын

Best for burning themselves out & iffy connections

@torstensturmhorst1337

Жыл бұрын

@@user-lb8do4ew6k do you see Germany burning? 41 million households are wired with Wagos or similar products.

@user-bu2mn8do6v

Жыл бұрын

@@torstensturmhorst1337 Add the netherlands (8,5 million households according to google) to your number because here is also everything done with wago's

Either done correctly is acceptable neither is better. It is stupid to state that millions of solid connections are inferior.

In Russia im almost use wago. And i never had any problems with genuine products. This wirenuts are “oldschool” things. They work good, but have some flaws (imho)

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input!

Well, Wago can be removed, like plug and unplung. Twisted means cut and start over.

They both work ..but try to add three wires to each one of those now ...😂😂😂 See how wire nuts are better ...😂😂

The wire nuts always held up better when we kinda overloaded our outlets in the shop. When we moved to a new, modern shop, we fried three wagos on day one. The wire nuts work well for us "improper" folks

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Haha

@DaIIen

Жыл бұрын

Use them correctly then

@502stingray

Жыл бұрын

@@DaIIen says the person that has never owned a shop before and needed to get going. 😆

The ONLY way a wire nut can be safe and strong is when using solid conductor, heavily pretwisted as shown in this video, which is a LOT of work. That CANNOT be done by hand except with fine wire gauges. BOTH sides must be held with a tool, making it very cumbersome. Wago connectors are fast, strong, reusable, don't damage your wire, and are rated up to the maximum current for which your wire is rated.

I've always used wago connectors for low voltage and why are nuts for everything else. Wago are like the "stab in the back" receptacles they will fail over time.

I have wire nuts, but it seems I don't need them anymore! Those Wagos are amazing.

Wire NUTS I have seen 1 hp electric motor, short out. The wire burning 🔥. But the wire inside the wire nuts did not burn.

@byloyuripka9624

Жыл бұрын

holy crap its almost like there is some sort of correlation between the amperage carried ad the size of the conductor hmm just cant quite put my finger on it 🤔

It's the same thing as pushing in a quick connect on the back of a device. It's still prone for failure.I've changed tons of receptacles with that.Same kind of principle because they've got hot and loose and melted the wire. I'm sticking to try it in true western union spice with a wire nut. Is dried and true

I’ve used snap wagos and wire nuts. I’ve seen both melt. Take your pick. Tension test? I almost saw that once in a video. 😂

@toolsandtactics

4 ай бұрын

Hah I prefer wirenuts myself

I think what you did is fine. However I learned you’re not supposed to pretest twist the wires for a wire nut, you’re supposed to just shove them in there and then let it twist them.

I’m a maintenance guy that has work at apartments most of my career, Iv replace so many of them Waco’s because they have melted, never replace a melted wire nut be for, Waco’s are junk

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

good to know!

Push-in Wagos are great for solid wire, but not that great for stranded, especially with wire smaller than a #12. I can usually get #12 and #10 to work in a Wago, as long as I twist the strands together first.

My brother argues that wire does not need a pre twist prior to the wire nut. I always pre twist. Never used wagos

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Wagis a listed and tested for the use they should be ok I always ore twist too

@johncramer99

Жыл бұрын

Some manufacturers put it on the box to not pre twist wires, 🤷‍♂️

@JbVest

Жыл бұрын

@@johncramer99 hmm 🤔 that's interesting.

@ShivaTD420

Жыл бұрын

@@johncramer99 yes, I beleive they don't want pre twist as the wire nut twisting plus the pre twisted wire could over twist the copper before the nut can bite into it.

@evanm.2300

Жыл бұрын

Ur brother is a madman and probably has the wires come loose on him often when installing and removing wire nuts very constantly. Im team pretwist and usually trim then nut(lol nut)

I quote you saying "I'm going to settle this right now" Then you proceed to just literally demonstrate how to make off both types and ask what we think. I personally prefer wagos for a number of reasons but mainly speed. What do you think is the best?

Ok, so tell me Wago fans. What is the difference between wagos and back stabbing an outlet. The same mechanism is for both...

All I can say is when it comes to hall lights and not having both of them a solid wire, WAGO is the only real answer to the question. Anyone thinking otherwise is insane or ill informed.

well its rater obviouse wirenuts just protect the joint. wagos are the joint. wirenuts can handle way more amps. wagos can handle way more cables withiut creating a mess. which means wagos are better when the house is built propperly but wirenuts are better when u just want to permanently slap 2-3 wires togheter.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

yeah ! well put also wagos good choice for people with less skill

I'll stick with twisting my wires and using wire nuts. I dont like stab in connectors

@toolsandtactics

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm not impressed, wire nuts never failed me

DIYers love wagos and licensed electricians use wire nuts.

Hey man, in a perfect world both would probably work fine. It's probably why you can still backstab some devices. However, taking into consideration the existing environmental factors such as; temperature fluctuations, humidity, salinity, etc. Both will eventually fail. But I'll throw my hat in the ring and say that, with the *obvious* mechanical advantage, wire nuts will forever hold up a whole lot better than some little dinky pressure connector.

the wire nuts in my house lasted 70 years and counting. Are those LEGO connectors going to still be good after 70 years? I doubt it.

Wago 221 are where its at. test ports and clean installation makes your work look NICE. solid and stranded wire on the same wago not suppose to do that for wire nuts but I'm not saying nothing.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they sure are ez and look good 👍

You don't have to pre twist wires for a wire nut. It tells you on the box. No pre twisting necessary.

The comments section answered this for you. Wago every time. Homeowners who know no better twist wires! European EN standards do not accept twisting of conductors before insertion into terminals due to stretching of the conductor therefore reducing cross section, work hardening the base of the twist and being difficult to cleanly separate for testing without cutting (no good for short wires) or unravelling that mess. Wago is a smart, clean, maintenance free connection that doesn't leave a big open gap you can get a screwdriver into, practically a finger! Not safe. Old crappy method. Move on America!

Out of all wirenuts IDEAL no if ands or buts. Preferably tan. Next the most important part us UL rated.

@toolsandtactics

4 ай бұрын

Yup!

Wire nuts are awesome and definitely better than the old connector blocks we used to use all the time in the UK but Wago’s are definitely better than wire nuts. For fault finding and testing you can remove the Wago easily and with no need to un-twist and cut back the wires, plus Wago’s are faster and tidier 👍 Wire nuts are a damn sight cheaper mind 💁‍♂️

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, all good points thanks!

I got tired of twisting wires/wire nuts, so I bought the Ideal wire-nut twister for my drill. I use the milwaukee m12 screwdriver with the twister. Perfect combo, the m12 screw driver isn't as powerful so it allows more accurate twisting without harming the wire/wire-nuts. I highly recommend the Ideal wire-nut twister, it'll save time and your fingers.

Waygo are a more quicker install,less bulky and leaves a cleaner look.

I completely agree with you on the wago but you are not supposed to pretwist the wires when putting on a wire nut.

Wago everytime. This is the 21st Century, wire nuts belong in the 1940's.

Am I gonna use Wago? Nope. I’m also not going to back stab receptacles which is also acceptable.

Regardless of which you choose you must follow the instructions on ul listed products, 3m says the wires can be twisted or untwisted prior to installing the nut, some of the cheaps ones say not to twist the wires together before nutting it.

Not even close, wago every day of the week, the only time I’ve ever seen wore nuts used in the U.K. is inside a 3-port valve

And all the people from Europe talking trash about how we still allow wire nuts in the US. You can clearly see the wire nut is the superior way to join the wires. I can just see a wago overheating and melting because of the lack of surface area. After seeing your video it's clear which is the winner.

The Wago's are a lot neeter looking but still like sticking the wire in the back of a recipitical, or placeing it under the screws? Surface contact. Current runs over the outside of the conductor, not threw it.

Not seen a wire nut fitted in the Uk in the last 40 years. That Waco would hold 4 cables they do 6 an 8 cable versions. Try doing that with a wire but. Plus you can add and remove cables in a multi block, very neat

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah UK has been ahead in many ways for terminations

@jman0870

Жыл бұрын

I’ve jammed 8 wires under a nut many times. Pre twist and there are no issues. 🤷‍♂️

@stephentucker5406

Жыл бұрын

@@jman0870 well that not good the wire nut tell you no more then 6 and then those are so darn large it takes up to much room in the box

@jman0870

Жыл бұрын

@@stephentucker5406 blue wire nut, box extension, works like a champ.

@stephentucker5406

Жыл бұрын

@@jman0870 yes they do work if you have the wall cavity to work with Typically they use a 411 box but even then it get tight in there

I would never use Wago

Yeah but whenever you're trying to wad together 8 wires and it just turns into a big mess you need more than wire nuts. You needs deeznuts.🤣🤣

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

What do you mean 'believe it or not'... of course wagos are better

I never use wagos. A knife edge connection just doesn't sit well for me. My opinion of course.

I get it. But after you’ve made your twist and cut the end the guy with the wago has mad ten more connections and is halfway home because the job is done.

@toolsandtactics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, can't argue with that .

@deanharbold858

Жыл бұрын

well if I'm getting paid hourly going with those nuts if per job pay wago all the way

@SCooke-_-

Жыл бұрын

Quantity over quality 👌

@ProleDaddy

Жыл бұрын

Do it right or do it fast. I guess we know where you sit on this debate. One of many reasons, besides surgery and long distance package delivery, I do all my own labor on everything.

@grumpy3543

Жыл бұрын

@@ProleDaddy I get it. I’m the same. And I get the argument that it creates hot spots at the point where the tang touches the wires. But that’s tested in the lab to be within limits or it wouldn’t have been approved. Plus, those same type of point connections are made in the light switch, the appliance switch. Even in high draw appliances the toaster has the same type of connection inside of it. And what about the blades of the power cord in the outlet? Those aren’t much different. Anyway. Let me know if you find any testing that shows an infrared camera on those connectors.

What did you settle?

@civildiscourse2000

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing.

@stringlarson1247

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely nothing.

Lol I only know of one inconvenience with the Wego doesn’t work at all we’re stranded wire unless you solder it then they work and they’ve been successful for me

3M skirted wire nuts are a superior product. But wagos have their place too.

Can we see a current test where each is pushed to its limits in a controlled test

.16 for 3M red vs 1.10 for Wago. I like using Wago for something I know I’ll get back into 1+ times in the next 20 years. Otherwise, no thanks. They both handle 32A just fine.

As a retired meth addict, I prefer scotch tape.

Wire nuts all day everyday. Good old and reliable, if done properly of course.

Neither. Twist and duct tape. Lol Seriously though. Refrigeration manufactures with flamable refrigerants require only wago clips.

Wow, it takes a special kind of pyro to twist wires when using wire nuts, just insert and twist, never use electrical tape, if you do it right it will never come apart

Wire nuts hands down better

wago for life! I'll take some German engineering thanks. put simply i think it's the best industry invention since I started as an electrician 22 years ago...The spring loaded maintainance free terminations are the way forward for all connection types 🇩🇪🇬🇧

Can't wait to use Wagos in our electrical project. No twisting and less bulk? Im sold.