Excellent review. Like you, I also stumbled into one having seen it in the local dealers show room for a number of months. A little like the shy kid at a new school. I fell in love with looks and once ridden I had to have it. About a week after owning it I called back in on the dealer for some parts for a different bike I own and the salesman asked with a knowing smile, ‘how’s it going” I said, I think it’s Kawasaki’s best kept secret. He simply replied, ‘isn’t it just’. The fact is it is the most surprising little big bike that does nothing perfect but makes everything fun.

I just bought a 2021 standard W800 and I love it. Very fun to ride and nostalgic, as it reminds me of the first big bike I rode as a 18yr old kid, which was a 1970 BSA Lightning 650. The W series has a direct lineage to BSA, in fact. Great bike and it’s a totally different experience to ride in comparison to my Honda VTX1300 cruiser.

Great review- esp the rotating camera shots, luv it. Appreciate the extra mile on the feel, the sound & the general vibe of this bike- no other review of the w800 compares. thx again

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate that. Thanks for watching!

Honestly the absolute best review of any motorcycle I’ve seen yet. You did a perfect real world review

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there! Thanks for the comment! Appreciate it!

With so many beautiful bikes out there. I'm so fascinated by this bike for some strange reason.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I’ve looked around to replace it. But I can’t find anything that I would like better as a daily. I guess I’ll just add to. 😆

@enricodedios3702

3 жыл бұрын

because this bike has a unique look. In my area I see a lot of sports bike. I have the street version of this bike and it’s a head turner.

Thanks for the excellent review. I'm picking up my new W800 Cafe tomorrow. Can't wait!

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Let us know how your first few rides go!

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuentinsMotoVlog Nice! Congrats on the bike! Watched the video!

@QuentinsMotoVlog

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike cool! I’m very much the amateur vlogger but I do enjoy it. Cheers!

Got a new 2020 cafe a month ago. Have 1700 miles. Love this bike!

@bertsbike

8 ай бұрын

Congrats on the bike. Is the 2020 the black colour? Future classic for sure!

@hatchetjack1031

8 ай бұрын

@@bertsbike same metalflake brown as 2019.

@hatchetjack1031

8 ай бұрын

@@bertsbike 2023 street model has black tank. No fairing.

Kudos to you sir. This is the best review I've seen for this bike and I've watched every single one on YT I think...I feverishly watched any review I could find before I bought a leftover 2019 W800 Cafe last May. This is my first road going motorcycle and honestly couldn't have done better for a beginner bike. It's got all the nice safety features that a noobie like myself requires. Unfortunately mine started to leak a bit of oil from the bottom section of the bevel driveshaft after about 1,800 miles. It sat at the dealer for almost 3 months waiting for backordered parts cause of Covid and I lost out on a lot of riding time :( Kawasaki did the right thing though and extended my warranty another full year and gave me 400$ worth of accessories atleast.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much’! I have seen some guys talk about that leak. Seems like it either happens or just doesn’t at all. Feel like I read that you don’t really mess with the bevel drive after it’s set.... man. Sorry to hear that. Good on them for making it better for ya. Feel like the customer service is pretty good for Kawi overall. How’s the bike going now?

@spydye21

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike Great ty for asking. No issues since getting it back in November thank goodness. They didn't offer the warranty extension so easily...I was on their case pretty good and just kept on them telling them how displeased I was with the situation, lots of phone calls and frustration lol. Initially they only wanted to extend the warranty as long as the dealer had the bike for. Eventually they cracked and I got them to give me a whole 'nother year. So I will be riding the bike hard this season and if any issues arise I will be sure to bring the bike at the end of the season (granted its not something major) this time for warranty work. I'm in New York so we only get a good ~8 months of riding time out of the year

@deegxpert

Жыл бұрын

@@spydye21 did your bike withstand the torture? :-)

@spydye21

Жыл бұрын

@@deegxpert Yup! No issues since thankfully

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

@@spydye21 I have the W650 , I ride it hard and it seems to like it . Dave NZ

Just want to thank everyone for watching this vid! It’s over 10K. Wow! Please like and subscribe if you haven’t already! Appreciate you! 🎉🎉

Great review. I’ve been out of the motorcycle game for at least a decade. Gave it up after our 2nd kid. Now have 4 of them but wanting to ride again. My last bike was a 73 CB750 that I did a lot of work too, had it cafe’d out and was pretty cool. Just happened to look online at motorcycles just to see what the manufacturers having been putting out and I instantly was liking the W800. It’s my style of bike. Thx for the good review

@TheAnnoyingBoss

10 ай бұрын

I like when the motors use gears internally as compared to belts and chains

Super great review. You gave a lot of useful information, unlike so many reviews that are useless. So thx.

@bertsbike

7 ай бұрын

Appreciate that! I try to approach it more from a practical standpoint. Thanks for watching!

Excellent review Bert! I like how you communicate, very elocuent, clear and pleasant. It's always better hearing about your experience and opinion versus bunch of specs like others do.

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there! Appreciate that! Thanks for watching!

Great video!!! So fun yet informative... beautiful scenery.

Very nice looking bike love the color, glad they finally brought them to the states! If you're concerned about preserving the tank try using an Xpel wrap. I have one installed on my RnineT. I had a professional install it.

I had mine since Sep 2019; racked up close to 12000kms already. A beautiful bike with soul.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more!

@Dranreb865

3 жыл бұрын

Any paint, rust issues? Im looking to purchase a used one with only 500 kilometres. The owner bought a z900rs that maybe suits his riding style.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dranreb865 Nothing really to note. I have a slight gripe on the tank paint in my video.

Had a lot of questions about the ergonomics and you answered them. Nice riding tips, too. Thank you

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

No probs! Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!

This video is probably the most balanced review on the W800 cafe on youtube right now. I've had my Cafe since Oct 2020 and have about 1800 miles on it now and basically agree with everything you said. I do wish the bike had a bit more horsepower, but I get that isn't really the purpose of this machine. There are plenty of other bikes available if you want to go fast. Regarding the center stand -- the OEM center stand from Kawasaki bolts right up to this bike with only one issue -- you have to modify the left footpeg bracket by cutting off the rear facing wire loop exhaust gaurd. The center stand has a wire loop that occupies this space. The left footpeg bracket on the Cafe and Standard bikes are different parts with different part numbers -- one has the rear loop, one does not. It is very easy to cut off the rear loop since the footpeg bracket is really easy to remove (one bolt). I used a hacksaw and a file, then a touch of black paint later and it looks factory. The only other (slight) issue is that the 18" front wheel on the Cafe vs the 19" front wheel on the standard bike does make it a bit more difficult to deploy the center stand. If you want to mount a center stand on the Cafe, you'll need the center stand, center stand spring, two center stand bolts, two center stand nuts, and the rubber bumper on the exhaust crossover.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Good to know. I’ve gotten used to not having the center stand and just walking the bike forward when cleaning the chain.

I like this review because it is really stressing to the character which is the main reason this bike felt special. Not everything should be fast nor sporty. It's a bike that you can ride for lifetime.

I've had mine since 2019...(w-800 cafe) super cool chill bike for around town

Just picked up a W800 Cafe ( new) and put the first 80 break in miles on it. I've had 20 bikes in the past, from Triumph trophy 250 to Harleys and GSX-R. I think this will be my favorite of all time. My HARLEY Nightster is intensely jealous 😊.

@bertsbike

9 ай бұрын

Awesome! congrats on the bike! Such a great machine! I’ve owned a few bikes as well and this is definitely on the top 3!

Still a great video a year later. Hope all who watch, know I own the same bike and believe is the best bike I have ever had. This is a great review!

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Hey there! thanks so much for watching! appreciate the kind words and feedback!

That’s a excellente review, very comprehensive ! Thanks 👍

@bertsbike

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate the watch!

I have had a w800 for a year now I love it ,feels very much like the norton's I had would I buy it again ,Yes!

Fun review! Love the curved cowling exhaust pipes looks like a Triumph. Center stand is a must- must spin the tire and check for nails etc. before the ride

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yes, the centerstand!

Recently bought a trail 125 as my first bike/scooter but this is definitely gonna be my second, great vid 👍

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! When you’re ready it’s a blast!

Excellent, objective review. Thank you.

There’s a used one for sale at my dealer right now. Very tempting. Thanks for the review! 🙂

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

No problem. great bike. Pretty sorry I sold mine…

awesome review. thank you

I have this bike and I love it. It's just an all around solid moto.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Fo’ Real!

I just picked one of these up about 3 months back and do not have many miles on her. Would definitely like to learn more!

I’m really happy I found your channel because the scout and the w800 cafe are the two bikes I’ve been deciding between now that it’s time to sell my started bike. I rented the scout and rode 160 miles on it and loved it. The upright position was so comfortable on backroads, but you’re right… it got tiring on the highway. The clubman bars on the w800 make my back sore just looking at them but I want to go sit on one at a shop soon. It also helps the w800 is half the price of a scout.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

I’m W800 Biased. If you can get a 2019 Cafe, the dealers have quite a markdown on them at the moment bars are easily swapped out if you don’t want the lean. The Blue 2021 Standard is in the US now and is quite an looker. Standard bars with a centerstand 💪. The Scout is a really good bike with character as well. Super fast. Low and long. If you’re going USA cruiser it’s hard to beat that kicked back ride. Good luck! Update us on which one you go with!

I can vouch for the Denali lights - I bought a brand new 2018 Triumph Bonneville T120 Black and the stock headlight was terrible. Before upgrading to a Motodemic LED headlight, I added a set of Denali DM on the forks. Absolutely incredible. You can't go wrong with them, especially positioning them a bit wide so you can see deer lurking on those dark country roads :(

Hello from France,enjoyed the review. An excellent feature on the bike that you failed to mention, is the positive stop neutral finder.

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir! Forgot about that!

Nice review! Thanks!

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

Excellent review and presentation. Stay safe.

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Hey ya! Appreciate it!

Great review! I just bought one!

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! You’re gonna love it! It never really gets old.

Sometimes I wish I wasn't planning on everything else ( found a new 20' for $5700 ) cause I would have that kind of money lying around . Thanks for sharing

I bought one yesterday. I’m not a huge fan of the clubman bars, but like you said, I have ordered the standard bars. It has really good power, and I am looking forward to putting miles on it. I bought a 2019 model with 706 miles on it for $5990. Seems like a good deal.

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Congrats on your new bike! Yup those clubmans are an acquired taste. Yup 6k is a great deal. New they were 10k

Beautiful bike..cool video 💪

Nice review. Getting mine tomorrow, exact same one. Super excited. My only possible disappointment is lack of aftermarket parts. I wanted a little more rumble / noise. Do you think the stock exhaust suffices? Is it noticeably audible?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not a loud exhaust guy. The stock exhaust does sound really good. It’s just not loud. If you need more volume tho, lots of guys just cut out the baffles... There are a few vids lurking around You tube on how to do it. It’s just irreversible.

I own one, after years of kawasaki sports bikes, I really like the riding position. You'll note that it is gifted with 51mm front forks which means that you can have fully adjustable internals, as well as uprated rear suspension, it's no sports bike, but, it doesn't really matter, I can recommend the cafe version 👍😊

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t know that about the forks. Good to know! I love the riding position as well! It grows on ya if you’re not used to being leaned forward

@hollyibbotson5290

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike hi Bert, yes good isn't it, put some tt100s on as well, and you'll have a more planted feel in the corners. I don't go in for bling without purpose. I was particularly impressed with the quality of finish and attention to detail, a real quality bike.

You can also use the center stand from the W650 or from the older version of the W800. I have the 2019 Street and i mount a center stand from a 2011 W800. You can mount it easy, just a little modifying. You must cut the heat protection.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Ah! Good to know! Thanks for the info!

Very through review, nicely done!

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Thank You!

Great review! What I’m really curious to know how on earth did you film yourself from the front and around? I have never seen such sorcery

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s a 360 camera. You just record and pick the angles later.

Good vid I’m looking at a left over . My first bike was an 1800cc vtx1800 and my last was a Ducati multistrada 1200. I was worried the bike might be boring for me but everyone has nothing but good things to say about these bikes

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s got great vibes and is a more than capable machine. The stance puts you in the zone for sure. I haven’t owned anything above a 1200, but any bike is more than a spec sheet. Still love riding 250’s and 300’s. I feel like the W800 does balance performance with practicality.

@mxg709

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike I cross the country on a Yamaha bolt cafe I owned . It was a good bike . Makes about the same power as the w800 just different type of engine never owned a parallel before . I’ve been lucky spent 7 of the last 10 years touring North America on bikes. For a few years at a time. I stopped for covid and just had my first kid so I want a bike to ride around town to the stores and stuff This w800 looks like a perfect bike for that.

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

Did you buy one ? Dave NZ

Great vid!

Had my W8 since 2015; standard not cafe; have owned 25 bikes in my time ranging from 350LC, GSXR1000, Exup, Fireblade, Versys, GPz750 etc etc; I rate this W8 in the top 3 with XT600 and VFR750. There's a sort of "X Factor" when it comes to the general purpose capabilities of a bike, and these 3 have it in my experience. Regards from UK.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Totally. I keep looking to replace it with something else but really can’t find anything I’d rather have. So I guess I’ll just add to the collection. I get what you mean about the X factor. The only ones who know what you’re talking about are other owners

@roadgent7921

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike Absolutely. Keep up the good work.

I had the w650 and it had the smoothest gears I ever experience of the 50ish bikes I have owned. A buddy of mine says the same thing when he tried my bike and he has owned at least 200ish bikes. After riding my w650 he asked me what I did to it to make it so smooth. I told him it was a secret tune, lol.

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Yes, It has had the smoothest gear box of any bike I’ve ridden.

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

I'm 50-ish bikes-owned as well , W650 is great , don't be afraid to push-it , they love it . Dave NZ

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

@@kdsowen2882 Yes! Keep those revs up!

Nice looking bike….definitely has character

Nice review there mate. Got me a Z900rs instead of the W800 because it didn’t comes with fuel gauge:)

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a sweet bike as well! The Z900 is a sweet bike!

Great bike and review

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks! And thanks for watching!

Got the same W800 and love it.. only thing negative I’ve notice is when riding on the rain groove pavement the steering tends to wobble pretty bad. Everything I’ve read about it points to the tire design.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, That’s what a lot of guys are saying. Probably gonna put some knobbier tires on mine at the change for some light dirt.

@josephsperato5645

3 жыл бұрын

A good set of radial tires will solve that. I will be doing the same.

they are as close to a modern retro as you can get without out all the headaches of a real vintage. They have more British style and heritage than the current triumphs. They are basically 773cc fuel injected BSA's but made by Kawasaki. When you want reliability but also a true vintage feeling ride you get one of these.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Great review.

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

very nice pipes,lovely bike

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Thanks TJ! The W800 is a winner!

Nice and authentic video. I am using my Bike all tru the year. Unforunately most modern bikes have a big gap between Tire and seat and also a short front fender. Do you have any issues with splashing water, when driving in rain or wet road conditions with your W800? Any issues with rust?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Hey ya! Thanks for watching. I don’t really have too many issues with splashing water. I do try to go around puddles if I can rather than drive through them but I have been in a straight up downpour and various in-climate weather and bike does not show any rusting on the body panels/tank/frame. I do dry off my bike after a rain session. The chain however does show some surface rust which I remove with some steel wool from time to time. I clean my chain semi regularly. I should be better about it tho. P.S. I noticed some very little specs of surface rust on the pipes where the joints are welded. Those sections aren’t chrome but more of a matte finish. Just chalk it up as patina I guess 🤷

I absolutely love mine, came from two different Triumphs. It is lighter feeling (moving it around when off etc.)Such a great bike and yes 3,500 is the only vibration. Just make sure to keep checking your exhaust flange! If they get loose the two pieces will jettison!

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Are you speaking from experience? Lol

@andrewhannam.

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike you know it lol! So glad these finally came to North America, been waiting for years! When thinking about selling my second Triumph (Thruxton 900) was going to get a Moto Guzzi V7... Then Kawasaki released the W800 cafe and street in Canada!

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewhannam. haha. Yeah had some previous Triumph owners tell me I made the right choice. Now if Kawi came out with a legit scrambler/off road version I would definitely have two

@EX22SNIPER

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, so they'll vibrate loose on their own? This should be easy to just drill them out then

Hey Bert - Definitely got my eye on the W800 cafe for my next bike. Denali lights are a good idea. Also like the saddle bag system you have on yours, what are they and would you rate them?

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Cool. Yeah They’re the Viking bags cafe’ bags. They’re a good value for the $$ for sure. There’s a video on my channel about them.

Took one for a ride on a demo day, loved the exhaust note. Riding position, not so much.

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the cafe version isn’t for everyone. Lots of guys just change out the bars.

@The_Tactical_Sombrero

2 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike I think the bars off my z900RS Cafe would be perfect for it.

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_Tactical_Sombrero Ooh, I love the Z900RS Cafe!

Hi Bert, the photo on your site before watching shows nobby tires on the w800. Can you tell me what they are? They look great and want to put on my w800 cafe. Thanks for the review

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! They are Bridgestone Battleaxe AX41 I believe

Thank You for the video, it is a nice look at the W800 Cafe. I'm much older and would go for the standard W 800. I'd like for you to do a review on a Royal Enfield INT 650 to get your thoughts on it and compare it to the W 800. The RE Continental 650 is more like the W 800 since both are cafe styled bikes. Ride safe and enjoy the journey.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching the video. Yeah I’d love to get a hold of the Int. 650. Ive only sat on one at the dealership, nice looking bikes for the money. Owners seem generally pleased with them.

@dougfielding8215

3 жыл бұрын

I have ridden my W800 Street for one season of riding (7 months in this part of 🇨🇦). I am crazy happy with it and find I have difficulty staying off of it. Suffering greatly from motorcycle withdrawal syndrome as I do every winter. Great review, Bert's Bike, I agree with all that you said about these excellent roadsters.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@dougfielding8215 Same here. It’s cold but we still get 50-60 degree days here and there. I try to ride year round. Coldest night I was out was 36 and if the sun isn’t out, heated gloves are needed. 😜

@genegoodwin8925

3 жыл бұрын

@@dougfielding8215 In Ohio Motorcycle Withdraw Syndrome lasts a long long time.

@dougfielding8215

3 жыл бұрын

@@genegoodwin8925 At least 7 months where I'm from. Love my Oxford heated grips though the expensive Kawasaki heated grips control looks more integrated.

Hi Bert I wonder if you could help me, im trying to remove the battery, not only does it bear no resemblance to the pre 2019 w800, I cant get a workshop manual anywhere, maybe you've had some luck.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there. So if you have a 2019 and up, you can access the battery through the seat. You have to remove the plate and move the ecu aside. If your trying to remove the battery you have to do the step above as well as remove the side cover, and remove the battery holder bolts, starter relay and the battery holder. All this is on P.124 of your owners manual that came with the bike.

The W800 is a fine example that you don't need a shit load of horsepower to have a LOT of fun.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@marcmaz21

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely correct. Usually smaller less powerful bikes are way more fun for everyday rides.

Bike is gorgeous.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I bought my w800 in june of 2020 and absolutely love it. However, I still am thinking of replacing the clubman bars and going to the regular street version handlebars. The only other complaint I have is the bias tires.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah those clubman bars are an acquired taste. I’ve heard a lot of people complain about the tires. I have noticed them track a little but I guess I’ve gotten used to them. Gonna go for a set of knobbier tires after they wear out.

@josephsperato5645

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike I really notice them on the grooved highway pavement going fast, otherwise they are ok.

@HS99876

3 жыл бұрын

I would try risers first, it is much cheaper solution , maybe $25 , easy to install, I saw lots of video that owners used the riser and they were very happy with the result.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@HS99876 I’ve seen that on a few bikes. Seems like a good way to go!

@HS99876

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike yes, it is kemimoto riser 1 1/8 inch on Amazon, hopefully it works for you

Great bike, bought one about 8 months ago....what is the link for the handlebar risers? Did fitment of these require any new cables etc that you are aware of ?? Great review btw 👍

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there. Thanks for watching! I did not put risers on my bars. There are guys on the w800 FB who have switched out the clubman to standard bars with no problem. Some have done risers also... Like anything YMMV. My cables seem to be pretty snug but I think there’s enough play for some rise.

👍. Hey there, what kind of tires do you have on the W800 on the thumbnail?

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Bridgestone AX41 Battle Axe Adventure cross

Nicely done. I am considering the Standard version of the W800. You said that you previously owned/ridden a Scout 60. How would you compare the power delivery between the two?

@bertsbike

7 ай бұрын

Well, the Scout Sixty had more power for sure. The W800 however is more agile, flickable and is just an overall fun and balanced motorcycle. Personally, I felt way more connected to the W800. The sound/vibes and feel of the engine are its strong points. Not to take anything away from the Scout... It's a solid "sporty" cruiser. Great in a straight line. Its major draw backs are the suspension and its lack of utility stock.

@jroberthadden

7 ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to riding one. I have ridden Scouts, Royal Enfields, and Bonnevilles. The W800 is the only bike that I know of among the "retro" classic bikes that still uses the 360 crank. giving it the classic British twin sound and that bevel drive is waaay cool.@@bertsbike

At 6:00 mark, what's that whining sound? Is that the bevel drive? Any way to reduce or eliminate it without changing to a louder exhaust?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, most bikes I’ve had have a higher pitched something going on. Honestly videos don’t ever do the exhaust any justice. They seem to accent all the treble. It’s got a low thrumming sound that videos don’t seem to reproduce well. You don’t notice that high pitched stuff in real life.

Great. Looking for a long term reliable commuter. Triumph 120😟 Enfield 650 😘 W800 😊

You can drop in standard bars with the cowl? I always loved hearing the bike whirrrrrrrr at speed.

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Hey stranger! Yes, lots of people do the standard bar swap with the cowl. 💪

What's that strap thing you have over the passenger seat? Great review!

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s a molle strap system that fastens to the seat. It Holds the panniers. Check out the Viking Bags Cafe’ Panniers or SW Motech Legend Gear.

Have you had an issue scuffing up your right side black cover (I guess for the crankcase or trans) right next to the rear brake pedal? I noticed this after about 100 miles on mine. It also gets hot, and if you rest your foot against it, it can melt your shoe.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Actually yes. There’s always a mark there when I wash it, but comes off pretty easily, especially if you have some bug remover or something. Actually a problem I’ve had on all the bikes I’ve owned. Lol

@defaultdaniel

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike I feel a little better now. My concern is it leaving a permanent mark or having the paint chip. Guess Ill just be careful

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@defaultdaniel Yeah, it’s just part of riding it I guess... Got a paint chip in my tank as well. Don’t know how that happened. I take great care of my bikes but things like that you can’t really help. I just chalk it up as “patina”. Got some more patina on my 539mi thrip I took last weekend. 😜

Are you a dispatcher? I noticed the thin gold line. I work for Metro.

You have to modify the bike or stand to get it to fit, I got a separate paddock wheel stand for it four chain maintenance

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Good to know!

Very nice review! I was at the Triumph dealer today looking at the Bonneville T120. Now I am thinking about the W800. I wonder how it stacks up against a Triumph. I think they have a Street Twin and a Bonneville T100 model with a 900cc motor but they are at least $10-10.5K (US) . The W800 is something like $9K but it is air cooled and has quite a bit less power than the Triumph. Decision decisions.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Just my 2c below. They’re all nice bikes! But if your looking for an actual retro vibe and experience. The w800 will be more of that with the air cooled motor, bevel drive and styling. The newer Triumph’s are beautiful bikes as well but are more modernized retro’s IMO. That’s something that’s very apparent when you ride and look at them side by side. As far as power, they all have plenty for everyday riding and interstate. If you really need focused performance the Thruxton is worth a look. Personally I’m shying away from water cooled bikes… seems like there’s always an issue with coolant systems no matter the manufacture, leaks, drips failing seals. 🤷‍♂️ Maybe I’m just unlucky?

@ToonarmY008

2 жыл бұрын

What did you end up going for? Im looking at the second hand market between the w800 or the below for a grand or two more Bonneville Street twin Speed twin Thruxton Street cup

@brianalexander9489

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToonarmY008 Me? Still on the fence. Still riding my 1972 Triumph Tiger 650 5-speed that I bought off CL for $200 last year. Might just leave those modern bikes for dreaming.

I adore this bike...I am now thinking of trading my w650 for one...but the kicker is the lack of kick-starter...BUT I have found a kit to retro-fit one. !

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

I think the 650 is better . Dave NZ

Hi! I don't know what to do..I have a HD Springer but I ve been in love with the w800 for a long time..the problem is that I can't afford to have 2 bike in my garage... what would you recommend me? Help me please! Greetings from Spain

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Those are just two different bikes. I’d say go with whichever you feel more comfortable on and drawn to regardless of specs. If you’re a casual biker you can tolerate a lot. But if you ride any distance at all the small things start adding up. It was hard to leave my Indian scout for the W. But honestly the W is just a great all a-rounder. I got the cafe, but most people will want to change out the bars or just get the standard version. Don’t get me wrong, I loved my scout and may add another one day but I’ve decided to keep the W for the long haul.

@josepgarciahidalgo9477

3 жыл бұрын

The Springer old boy is the motorcycle that I always wanted to own...I have realized that I want to try new things.. something different..and I love cafes racers but I'm afreid of selling my HD and regret it afterwards...thanks dude! If finally buy the w800 I will let you know! Greetings from Spain

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@josepgarciahidalgo9477 Yea, if it were me I’d probably keep the Harley just cause and get the w800. If I had to have only one and didn’t have the Harley, I’d get the w800. But If I already owned the Harley I’d just hang on to it. Just my 2c. Sounds like it’s the bike that you love.

Great review. How does the bike feel on the highway for 100 miles or so?

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've taken it on long trips of 200+ mile runs of mixed back roads and some highway loaded down. It seems to handle it well and feels solid. The bike can do over 100 mph but I would keep the bike at about 75mph and pass at 85 90. The leaned over position is what would fatigue most riders on a long trip but at higher speed the wind actually holds you up. It will more than do the job but if you're doing lots of highway(consistently 75mph+)... I tend to prefer cruiser style motos and bigger displacement engines.

You can mod the bike for more power easily...new efficient mapping kit is available.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know. I’m good with what it is but I may want more. Lol!

@MATTMAHONEY__

3 жыл бұрын

how do I do this

Do you wear any black leather biker greaser jackets or Levi’s jeans in particular?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. I use a Merlin Jacket, Fly Moto Shoes, I do have a pair of Moto pants with knee and hip armor.

The battery position is a nightmare. Its impossible to remove the battery without tearing half the bike apart. In my country winter comes early and leaves late. Having an easy to service battery is a must and the battery location has me on edge

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never had to remove it at all but access to the terminals from the top seems ok. The dealer had a SAE cable installed already so I never had to remove it for charging etc.

I was planning to get regular version but now I'm thinking about cafe :) that handlebar looks like a airplane yoke...

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they’re both great choices. Standard in the US has the center stand and some more chrome on the fenders. Cafe has the cowl and clubman bars. Lots of guys just order some handlebars and take off the cowl to change it up here and there to get the standard ergos. You’ll love it either way. The forward lean IMO is an acquired taste. One that I particularly love.

@robsonenduro3316

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike yeah, but if one want to take the club bars off why not to get just street version :) and get free centerstand

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@robsonenduro3316 cause you get the bad A cowl. 😎. The center stand is a far cheaper add on. Either way it’ll be fine. It’s all a sum of parts tho right. Ergos/color/look/feel etc.

This is a great bike and I would consider buying one if it didn't have tube tyres. I have had a puncture with tube tyres and I had to call out my breakdown service and have it taken to a garage. I couldn't carry all the stuff you need to change tube at the roadside. I would buy a Moto Guzzi Stone or a Triumph Speed Twin because of this, even though I would rather have a W800. I am not prepared to replace the standard wheels with tubeless wire wheels because they are VERY expensive.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it is a worry of mine on a long trip. I do prefer tube tiers over cast when they’re inflated lol. What If you just bought regular cast wheels?

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

Put a tubeless-kit on standard-wheels , cheap Dave NZ

May I ask what make panniers you are using? Also are you using panniers rails. Thank you in advance

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they’re the Viking bags cafe racer set.. the ones I have are the medium size. Also SW more challenging makes a set as well that are visually similar but have certain attachments options.

@Thefab5150

2 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike thank you so much.

Hey Bert, in your expert opinion, is this suitable as a first bike?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I don’t think so. It’s not an intimidating bike, but it has some quirks that I don’t think would be friendly for someone’s first bike. The clutch is a little jumpy, It’s heavy for its class and the ergos are pretty leaned as well. Also they’re $9700 and some change MSRP so it’s pretty expensive to be the first unless you got some previous experience. If you’re bent on it, it may be good to get some standard bars...

Did you ever add any additional lights as mentioned?

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. No I never did.

Would a tall person 6’3 feel comfortable on this bike? How tall are you. Nice review.

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

I’m 6’1”. Just depends if you like the lean forward… I think you’d probably want to swap the bars… or put some risers on.

What is that molle webbing type cargo thing you have on your bike?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the Viking Bags Cafe Racer set. It comes with the bags. That part attaches to the seat.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

I have a review on them on my channel. Check it out!

I'm very interested need to test one out would like to downsize from a Sportster.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

What sportster are you Rollin in?

@marcmaz21

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely check it out. Especially since most dealers here have knocked price down around $6800. Best bike for that price

Beautiful... What a difference over the Indian.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks David. Yeah they’re both different animals, but I ended up loving the w800 that much more.

@david-johntiemens573

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike I can totally see why. There’s one for sale close to me... good starter lol? Man it’s beautiful!

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@david-johntiemens573 well, I think if you have some past experience and some miles under your belt the w800 would be fine move and if you can get along with the clubman handlebars. You either will love it or hate em. Easy enough swap tho.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@david-johntiemens573 If you’re a brand new rider I’d probably get a 500/300. With “standard” ergos. There is a “classic” model that is pretty great. There’s a red and blue one.

Those bikes passing you on the double yellow. LOL! How slow were you riding?

@bertsbike

2 жыл бұрын

Lol... I love how that part of the video gets so much attention. Pretty sure the speed limit is 40 there. They just wanted to haul A I guess.

Wow! That front suspension is doing an awful lot of bouncing up and down on what appears to be a very smooth road. Is that part of the "character" of this bike, or am I missing something?

@bertsbike

11 ай бұрын

It’s bouncy and firm. Nothing to write home about. I always roll my eyes when companies put run of the mill suspension on a modern vintage bike because it’s “period correct”. 🤣

Thanks for the vids! Question...didn't see any other video explaining why you got rid of the scout sixty and prefer this one? I saw your scout long term review earlier today because I'm test riding one tomorrow. Then, came across a 2019 W800 for sale and then coincidentally saw this video. Was thinking I needed something more beefy like the scout to keep up for road trips. Was unsure I would dig forward controls, but saw videos on modding to mid controls. How does this one handle road trips using extended high speeds? Pushin' it? Any feedback would be wonderful!

@NTaiResting

3 жыл бұрын

Also...thoughts for short riders? Im about 5'3"ish. Another reason why I thought the scout sixty might be the way to go.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Well... I prefer this to the scout for long trips because the scout seating position puts you sort of upright like a sail in the wind at over 60/70 mph and up. The scout has no wind deflection stock. The 800’s fairing pushes the wind around you and the leaned forward position helps cut the wind dramatically. More so than I thought. So when you’re at 85+mph. The 800 feels way better to me than the Scout. The scout has a beefier engine of course but since it’s a cruiser it’s really fast in a straight line and not as good in the twists IMO. If you’re under 6ft. I think you’ll be fine on either bike. The Kawi sits higher over traffic and at 6’1’ my legs are extended pretty well. I may have a slight bend... The scout, anyone can flat foot. the W’s clutch pull is way easier and the gearbox is buttah...the W800 Comes with way more features than the scout as outlined in the video etc. Personally IMO the W800 is a more rounded motorcycle. I haven’t ridden a scout on mids but it’s a very low bike as it is so going mids might be uncomfortable for even averaged size riders. RSD makes a good kit for that if you want but I feel like the forwards fit the Scout very well. They are both a little polarizing. The scouts forwards took me a minute to get used to. The 800’s more aggressive lean as well. In the end the 800 is more fun for me. There are days when I miss the scout tho. The 800 is a better everyday/do everything bike. Put some knobbies on it and you could have a scrambler and do some light trails. I’ve taken the w800 all the way to 100mph before and no matter what speed your going, it feels stable. The scout feels a little un easy at 85+. They can both do long trips and keep up. So pushing it the 800 doesn’t feel like it’s working as hard but the scout is the faster bike tho. The 800 is the more confident one out of the two. They both cruise easily at 75 and pass at 85+. They are both are capable of over 100 mph. Loaded down they both perform very well. Had my camping gear etc on both. Both great. However, if you have to go off pavement once you get to the camp site etc... The scout gets very low and the 800 is totally fine if the road gets a little sketch. If your roads are bumpy the scout will knock you around a bit. It’s harder to stand over a bump with its forwards but can be done. The suspension sucks on the scout. The 800’s is a little bouncy but will be more plush overall. Once you break it in a bit. Some of the bounce goes away... Both bikes are great! Get the one you can’t stop staring at. 🤗

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@NTaiResting the 800 is the taller of the two but IMO not a terribly tall bike. You’ll probably be alright on it. As I ride more I prefer taller bikes. I love the height of dual sports and prefer having my heels up when touching the ground.

@NTaiResting

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike whoa thanks for the quick and extensive response! All of that is SUPER helpful, so thank you. Man, I just love the style of both. Kinda like apples and oranges. Hard to stare at either one and not be in love. Any desire to swap out the exhausts for something more throaty?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

@@NTaiResting They have a good sound for stock bikes. Lots of guys just take out the baffles on the W800. You can check out Omega Racer for some cool options. On the scout, I’ve seen guys go with Indian stuff or Vance & Hines Crusher pipes. I’m not a loud exhaust guy so personally I’ve never messed with it.

Are u still in love with the bike? :) I will replace soon my little honda with a new w800, oder a moto guzzi v7. I can´t decide yet (guzzi has kardan instead of chain) but i like the w800 a bit more. Are there any "strange problems" or are this a "japanese well built bike" ?

@bertsbike

2 ай бұрын

I don't have mine anymore. I sold it regrettably. No Issues, just a solid bike through and through. I have ridden an older V7 racer and it was very fun as well. Overall the W800 if one of the best bikes I've ever owned and ridden.

@user-aerodelax

2 ай бұрын

@@bertsbike thanks for your reply! I have already sat on a new w800 und loved it. I try to find a cafe edition, because i like the lamp mask design. Also the v7 Guzzi have actually the "Corsa Edition", which have an old school race lamp mask ;) keep up u good video work, greetings from Germany.

@bertsbike

2 ай бұрын

@@user-aerodelax Cheers! Ride safe!

These bikes are cool and will be a collectors item..I will be surprised if it lasts to compete with Thai built Triumphs and Enfield interceptors, both which lack the class of this bike. Thing is, you gotta change tires, suspension and mapping...then..I think you are set,

@MATTMAHONEY__

3 жыл бұрын

The tires get better once you break them in

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

That pretty-much applies to a lot of bikes though and front-end is easy to improve with spacers and thicker-oil . Dave NZ

thinking of getting the same bike, whats your height mate?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Cool. I’m 6’1”

Is that a thin blue line key accessory?

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Thin Green Line.

Did you test ride the Yamaha bolt? Just curious your thoughts on it if you did.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Not yet. That’s a bike I’m really curious about. Most people say it’s “a better sportster”. Not sure how true that is but Yamaha makes some great quality machines. IMO the most important thing is if you fit ergonomically on the bike. I found some of the middleweight cruisers slightly too low for tall riders 6’ and over. However, I’m 6’1” and I loved my Rebel so It just comes down to each person and what you like vs what you’ll be able to live with.

@bertsbike

3 жыл бұрын

Haven’t yet. But It’s on the list

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

@@bertsbike I don't own a 'Bolt' , but I Do own the bike that helped 'spawn-it' , an 82 XV1000 chain-drive mono-shock Roadster . It's nothing-short of fantastic, 70hp and fun all-day . A tad-heavy for me @ 68 , my 'old-man rides' are a 2003 W650 and a 1973 TX650-yam . I enjoy character in bikes that you have to 'ride' (not just sit on ) with the accompanying feedback .The W-series bikes were 2yrs before the other-retros and only manufactured (originally '2019') for the Japanese Retro-bike-Scene . They intentionally left vibration in ,because that is what was wanted by the Japanese-Riders . It only got exported after Franchises pressured Kawasaki , they even withdrew them from USA after the more-powerful Bonnieville was released because they weren't designed to compete and they didn't want 'Damage' to their Brand . Thoroughly enjoyed your review. Dave NZ

@bertsbike

Жыл бұрын

@@kdsowen2882 Thanks so much for watching and all the info! Really appreciate it! I’ll have to check out that XV. seems like a rad bike!

@advartmusic8329

11 ай бұрын

@@kdsowen2882😮pp 😊your

I forgot to add it has a real helmet lock!

@MATTMAHONEY__

3 жыл бұрын

and a tool kit