Umm, I think many people lust after i30n , it’s in a different price class than the others, but offers real, world manual gearbox fun. Even covered by factory warranty for track use.

@mistreku

4 жыл бұрын

i think i'd still get the renault megane, just not in trophy spec, and the difference in price would be smaller.

@popsandbangs8858

4 жыл бұрын

mistreku but the no trophy is slower than i30N

@spaghetti9067

3 жыл бұрын

its good that the warranty covers it because a track shouldn't break a car because it's just harder driving then normal that's all

@stephenagnew670

2 жыл бұрын

Buy the megane I took areal good look at all of them drove them all etc an the megane s the one looks an sounds the best

I’d take the Hyundai’s warranty, Renault’s body, engine and 4WS, and the Golf GTI’s interior, technology and overall fit and finish.

@AdiL-qv8jb

4 жыл бұрын

Best combination

@andrewscott7655

4 жыл бұрын

That's taking the biscuit

@justahyundai

4 жыл бұрын

Thats some bullshit tho

@andypick7533

4 жыл бұрын

Renault has 5 year warranty from Dec 2019 also

@hendrix2478

4 жыл бұрын

Lol. Good work.

Hyundai, best value; Vw, best status; Renault, best sports car...

@evilspiritchild

2 жыл бұрын

Since when did a VW have status?

@richboy900

2 жыл бұрын

I'd go with that

@AL-kp1vw

2 жыл бұрын

@@evilspiritchild Since 1974, dear Luís! The VW Golf is the model that set the pace in the C segment. Eight generations leading the way and creating the benchmarks for everyone else. GTI, GTD, VR6, V6, TDI, 1.8T 20V, V5, 16V, G 60, R32, TSI, e-Golf, GTE… 4-motion, DSG… Look it up ! Have a nice weekend !

12 grand more.....stickers on the side....cool story bro

The Megane seems so adjustable on the limit and really allows for different driving styles.

The Megane RS is the winner for me :D

Thing with Megane is that I never really liked the looks before this model which actually is pretty cool. Then again the Hyundai also looks really good in a much more understated way. And then comes the matter of price, which is probably the Hyundai's trump card in the segment.

So ya save 6k on a Hyundi I wonder what it could do with 2ks worth of mods and money still in your pocket.

I have the Megane RS (Cup version), and they are a great drive. I do get annoyed when reviewers bang on about the ride being super-stiff though...because it just isn't!

@lordshark66

4 жыл бұрын

superflea72 indeed. Im s fresh owner of a 300trophy edc, and its is just awesome. Stiffness isnt really that big of a deal. I owned a mk7gti with dcc and it does as much as no difference to your driving confort. After all, almost everyone who likes their golf’s look mint, put on some h&r, eibach, vogtland springs which makes the car as “stiff” as a cup chassie on megane. Lol

@superflea72

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordshark66 we went from a BMW M135i to the Megane, and imho you got bounced around more in the Bimmer than the Megane. ☺

@lordshark66

4 жыл бұрын

superflea72 hehe, well as you said, dont know why the all complaining in these reviews!

@ryansolomonx

4 жыл бұрын

They just tryna sabotage the Megane but they won’t win

@milo6507

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordshark66 same here blanc Nacre 👍🏼✌🏼

That hyundai really performed well considering its price , and in terms of reliability the i30 wins all day long ..

@bdmr_isf

4 жыл бұрын

@Uno Nisu everything is more reliable than a renault

@SNapRicardo

4 жыл бұрын

@@bdmr_isf another dumb fanboy... I bet you own a vw lol

@DjNikGnashers

4 жыл бұрын

@@SNapRicardo I work in a Hyundai main dealership. We have not seen ANY 'common' problems with the i30N yet, just a few isolated problems which happen with any brand of vehicle.

@henkstols9326

4 жыл бұрын

Most buyers will buy these brand new with warranties, I cant see reliability been a isue here. Yes second hand I can understand but I wouldnt easily buy a hot hatch because of the way people abuse them.

@ChrisKronk117

4 жыл бұрын

Chaert 100% my 200 has only ever needed brakes/cambelt/oil etc...

Great review. I normally find Fifth Gear's videos to be annoying as there's too much bickering and banter and not enough car action but Jason and Karun are a great pair. Entertaining but still focused on the cars.

I love my i30N, best car for the money!

@max.power89

4 жыл бұрын

I love my i30n too! And you're right, best car for the money! Greetings from Germany! 🇩🇪😊

I’ve gone from A35 to the trophy and I’m not disappointed I love the point and shoot steering it’s so pint point I love the cup chassis feels more ruff and ready no body roll race set up 👌🏾

@Kithuni

4 жыл бұрын

Calvin Orr from Mercedes to Renault? Are you insaine?

@calvinorr4389

4 жыл бұрын

Kithuni till you owed one you wouldn’t understand Mercedes has very poor build quality do be one of them that’s fooled by the badge

@christianwold

4 жыл бұрын

@@calvinorr4389 but a35 amg...it's supposedly a good car, what didn't you like about it?

@calvinorr4389

4 жыл бұрын

Christian Wold yeah there meant to be good cars maybe the build quality 10 years ago was a lot better but I had a long list of problems that was the same across the forums people experiencing so many problems it’s to much to list! Plus it’s the A35 AMG to be honest its not really AMG its hasn’t got the power stuff like S3 where annihilating me 🤣 embarrassing a five-year-old Audi but it’s all on line there in black and white there are just an overpriced Renault. On to the trophy RS Complete different machine it’s more race focused set up for a track you have to enjoy and be a good driver to drive the trophy in the Mercedes was a bit boring with all the driver AIDS 4 matic anybody can drive them fast because it does the work for you put both on the track The RS Will destroy it The only advantage the A35 will have is if it’s wet

@christianwold

4 жыл бұрын

@@calvinorr4389 thanks for the reply,. I guess I won't buy the Mercedes in the end then 😃

That Megane is truly an amazing looking car

Yeah its the Hyundai i30N for me. With the left over cash, i would get a tune and get it up to +300 bhp

@albrightonthenight

4 жыл бұрын

Look at Dan bush i30n, pushing 400bhp!! The thing is an animal 😂

I guess it just depends what you want! Glad we have all these options for hatchbacks. Cant get enough!!!

Sorry but from the start there was badge snobbery, would be interested to find out the as tested prices.

@martinallenuk

4 жыл бұрын

You say Badge Snobbery...I say poor.

@superflea72

4 жыл бұрын

so the winner should be determined by simply being the cheapest? they should've just bought a Suzuki Swift along...easy!

@ResevoirGod

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinallenuk Imagine thinking you're well off for a driving a slightly more expensive hatchback hahahaha peasant

@bandvitromaniaios1307

4 жыл бұрын

@superflea72 lol can’t wait for Dacia Sandero Trophy R edition!

It would have been interesting if there had been a third driver and all three cars had raced on-track.

I'm not a badge snob. So I can say that I think the i30 Ń is the best hot hatch to buy out of them all

@robinmarples5198

4 жыл бұрын

Liking Hyundai is the absolute badge snob attitude 😉

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

@@robinmarples5198 Uh?

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

@@archer7716 It's not, as long as it's an honest, genuine reason. A couple of guys above said they'd chose the Golf because because they are only going to drive to work. (not intending to smoke anyone from the lights given half a chance when it's quiet then?) VW's are stylish cars, but I'd feel a little silly getting minced by an R, then watching it disappear into the distance while glancing sadly at the badge on my steering wheel. Then after, the 7k extra you paid sinks in while you sit in your kitchen. Still could be worse, you could have a GTD and find a letter telling you to come in to the dealers for a free 'tune up', just for emissions reasons, probably struggle to beat a milk float after that. lol

renault looks just... amazing

R E N A U L T remember this !

I have a Megane Trophy and its awesome! Changed the front tyres to Falkon FK 510s and its made a huge difference to driving on the road. Just superb!

"Little pop on the exhaust but no were as grunty as the other two" what are you'se on about? I bought an i30n and its only short of setting off car alarms when you let off past 4500rpm. In the real world with real people, price plays a massive point and thats where the i30n is winning over the rest. When i bought my i30n it was €39k. The throphy megane was €54k and the golf tcr was €62k. Id rather have the i30n and €23k spare. Its a very nice car to commute to work in.

@zoransoce

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on sound. I have a GTI and even with Akrapovic exhaust it sounds worse then i30N. That engine just has a better note. But overall I like the golf more, it is just a matter of preferance.

@W42PZ

4 жыл бұрын

Chavs love the overrun sound!

@mwboost

4 жыл бұрын

I30N performance sounds way better than the golf. Especially the pops. As much as I like golf's they sound like arse lol.

It has taken this long to see how tough, and truly changed the i30 now is, a true sports car, w/the N line Hyundai hatch backs..?.! The U.S. spec Veloster N line hatch came out over a year ago, and has been kicking ass in track matches. Beating the Golf R, Civic Si, and other fast hatches, on KZread. 2018-2019 Hyundai Veloster N-line.

The Hyundai i30N is already a cult car in Australia. People who had lesser, earlier Hyundai cars like the Getz. They stay with the brand because of amazing reliability, affordability, reasonable running costs so why go get a Euro car which are not setup for our country, cost more to buy and operate and questionable reliability.

Wish they had released the i30n “option” that was at a few motor shows last year, a shame they didn’t make it

@kennyd7667

4 жыл бұрын

they are releasing a limited edition special one called the Hyundai i30N project c

@-LK34-

4 жыл бұрын

Kenneth Dike so they say..

@kennyd7667

4 жыл бұрын

@@-LK34- true...

Well, because I’m just a normal everyday joe, I’ll take the i30N over everything else, since it’s cheaper by quite a margin, supposedly more reliable (by how much money you put in case of a breakdown), and still a very capable for track use

Great Review I love my Trophy 😍😍

Glad to see Karun branch out into reviewing

I would take the i30N Performance out of these.

i30N best imo, golf looks great but it’s just common and mud so many golfs kicking about. Barely see any i30Ns and they look so different from the non sport i30. Renault is cool but personal preference I don’t like the back end

@Enforcer_WJDE

4 жыл бұрын

I have quite a few Ns in my area and surprisingly many Fastbacks like mine.

after safety, the most important think for me in any car is reliability , so which car in this 3 models is the most reliable???

@TassieLorenzo

3 жыл бұрын

The Renault has a Japanese Nissan engine. :)

Not surprised by the outcome as Renault Sport is making absolute leading hot hatches now for decades....👍 🇫🇷 👍

I would definitely take the i30N because it is very good and much cheaper than the other two.

If testing the TCR which is top of the range should have compared with the M4RS Throphy with the Sport package ( recaro + lightweight Mag wheels and Brembo composite ) .... would have been more equal.. also should have tested the Civic type R which is I believe equal first with the megane and is such a great car.....

The golf? The most expensive, the slowest and the less fun... Yeaaaa à good vw product in fact 😅

I’d go for the i30 over it’s rivals for sure. I’ve seen brand new ones in dealers for £24k with the performance pack with a 5 year warranty and even a track warranty! I specced a golf gti with everything the i30n has on the configurator and it was over £10k more expensive....i30n all day!! Coming from a mk5 edition 30 owner

Just look at the way the Renault deals with that race track...are you really going to choose another one after watching how superior it is?

Why isn’t the golf R in this.

i30N please. Gee I miss Tiff too

For all you French car haters. Stop going on about reliability!!!! The bottom line is that Renault outperforms VW in the reliability charts too. Just look at carwows most reliable cars. Time to put those old misconceptions where they belong. In the past

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

I know, but it's like talking to a piece of wood, they can't........totally sold on VW

@danielburgin28

3 жыл бұрын

VW just got less reliable, not Renault more reliable.

@theoneandonlybenjamin

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielburgin28 you sir are a prime example of sticking to the old misconceptions. Renault and all the other french manufacturers have upped their game tremendously in the last few years. Just look at the cars Renault had in the early 2000's and the ones we have now. A world of difference. Same goes for PSA. We could carry on criticising the french cars until the end of time. The truth is they are still french owned. What do we have that is still British owned? Diddly squat that's what!!!

@danielburgin28

3 жыл бұрын

I've owned several french cars over the past few years which have all had issues. I've owned a Swedish car with a french engine that had issues. I've worked in car hire and seen plenty of Peugeot and Renaults have issues. The Peugeot interiors aren't bad, but the Renault ones look very dated. These are not baseless accusations.

@theoneandonlybenjamin

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielburgin28 let's agree to disagree. I have owned and driven many french cars in recent years too. Some not available in the UK. Latest Espace, Renault Talisman, Koleos, Kadjar even a Laguna coupé Monaco go. All fantastic cars with a ton more character than their German rivals too and even more reliable now.

Megane looks so good in liquid yellow!

They need to get a group together and do their test, 1 by all drivers rotating, 2 separate, no cars doing laps at the same time. In the end set all times, and prices, where they can compare abilities and prices. So, one may be better, but is it x% better 1 on road (technology, ride, seats, etc) and on track (same), for x% price difference.

Could get better tires maybe some stiffer springs on the i30n for the price difference.

@Nordlicht05

4 жыл бұрын

Hyundai offers own Tuning Options to buy! Carbon strut braves for example and on and on

@babisotonggg

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nordlicht05 really? awesome

Why dont you take also the GTI top Model the clubsport s?

@cliftoncairo3314

4 жыл бұрын

This is the correct matchup the top model of the Megane is the Trophy-R that one can be compared with the clubsport s. Hyundai doesn't have a track focus car like the R and S models of Renault and VW.

For me i30 N is the winner the Best car for the money. I dont quite sure why typer R didn't appear in this test. It is clearly faster on this track then Megane

@martinandersson5278

4 жыл бұрын

Why is it faster?

@AdiL-qv8jb

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinandersson5278 kzread.info/dash/bejne/loVtz6iuoce1ipM.html in this test you have Megane RS but this is the same track plus Big difference in time. I do not understand the logic behind the politics in Renault. RS trophy is unusable on the road. Trophy R has no back seats no 4 stearing plus its expensive. If i would choose I would go with simple RS

@Angelos42

4 жыл бұрын

AdiL Trophy is unusable on the road... wtf are you on about. I own a trophy and it is perfectly comfortable for everyday use.

@AdiL-qv8jb

4 жыл бұрын

@@Angelos42 well man good for you. It is always the matter of perspective for JP is too stiff on the road. You can argue about it all Day but ultimately if you are ok with it its only what matters

@Angelos42

4 жыл бұрын

AdiL Sure, it is a bit stiff, but nothing beyond what you’d expect from such a car. There are a LOT of regular cars that are way less comfortable on average roads.

They should use Veloster N.. Veloster N will smoke them, well the price should be around gti tcr?

For 41 grand that Golf, it would need to nosh me off every time I got in it.

Can’t wait for my i30N to be delivered now

Megane is MEGA!

Great chennaistry chaps! Please make more vids:)

You guys needed the Veloster version not the I30. And get the 275 hp upgrade.

Since the golf won the drivability test it should have been put against the Hyundai on the track, I bet it would be a different outcome.

I like all of theme

Wanna see Hybrid hot hatches but not as people think. It has a 150-200hp motor, and a small battery pack that will last 5-10 minutes, You can build it up with regen braking etc It works like Electric Nitrous, you push the button, you get an instance smash of torque and 200Hp, a 500hp hot hatch sounds pretty banging The merc amg45 is close but just a no for many reasons

Too bad you can't get the Veloster N.

That's my Mégane. It's ace!

If that was me i take the i30 N because car's are not juste a lap time record but how much can get you smile! And she do the hard work with a little prince and 5 years warranty Compare megane Rs trohy with lightweight veloster the results will not be same

The golf is soo expensive tho

mk7 Golfs are already failing MOT's because of completely rotten sills xD

@AndRootPro

4 жыл бұрын

What?

Megan vs type R now that would be a race

@upbeatmantis86

3 жыл бұрын

Type r wins

@johnboy2436

2 жыл бұрын

@@upbeatmantis86 The Megane beats the Type R on track. So nah!

Please please please bring back Tiff.....we miss him

Is this the dude on F1?

Starting to wonder why Renault RS 300 are never reviewed with their EDC Autobox. Oh no wait, I don't, because it's horrendous.

Music 11:18-11:40 ????????

Honda?

Lovely to see VW getting spanked by the “inferior” brands.

You could get two MCS' for the price of that Golf ! No way....

@fields1

4 жыл бұрын

Are you saying two Mini Cooper S?

These comparisons with a slight differences wouldnt or shouldnt change anyones choices. Most people I know will rather make personal and irrational and emotional choices when chosing a car. Like its colour wheels sound system or 0-100km as if they keep dragging their cars 24/7...

Well, I feel the missing link is the Focus ST MK IV. I was totally surprised by how good it felt compared to Renault,Hyundai and VWs

@davocarlo

4 жыл бұрын

I agree The ST should be in the loop at least...

@robinmarples5198

4 жыл бұрын

You did not understand the purpose of the video. It s about upgraded hot hatchbacks on the basic one. Golf gti '' tcr '', megane rs '' trophy '' and I30n '' performance ''. The focus St exists in just 1 declination, the st

@1989rs500

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinmarples5198 No. Not at all the Focus ST is perfectly capable of fighting the likes of i30N, GTi TCR and Megane RS..maybe not the Trophy. Infact in most race tracks the Focus ST is faster than TCR and Megane RS and i30N.

@robinmarples5198

4 жыл бұрын

@@1989rs500 of course but that not the reason why it's not in the comparo. Listen the video carefully from the start you will understand... If not I will explain

@robinmarples5198

4 жыл бұрын

@@1989rs500 the st is not an upgrade of an upgrade, if Ford makes an st s or an st r or an st something with upgrades it would be in the test. They just testing upgrade models. Tcr, trophy, n perf and not the basic one. The st is the basic form of the model not an amélioration. So it s not here

If I30N in my country(SA) had a fair price would sell like hot cakes, unfortunately it's too expensive because of its 7yr warranty, it sell on price of mk7 R, though it looks like rigid car that can endure hard driving compared to golfs and meganes, Ford st

@archie100

4 жыл бұрын

And in UK 130N is cheaper than these cars, it's very strange. Megane is the best track car.

Where I stay the Hyundai costs the same as the VW Golf R😐

@davisdesigns1153

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@mudalachirwa282

4 жыл бұрын

South Africa?

@cameron4907

4 жыл бұрын

@@mudalachirwa282 yup!

@davisdesigns1153

4 жыл бұрын

@@mudalachirwa282 Awe

@pjb9010

4 жыл бұрын

Same

Bro why don't you use the N mode fo Hyundai in the race

Personally think these two had preconceived notions about the Hyundai and were a bit sniffy about it. Okay the Renault was faster, but would you be confident that it wouldn't be down the garage every few months for mindless repairs. Hyundai interior is better hands down. Watch Steve Sutcliffe's review for Evo magazine.

god, I wish renault was sold in the USA, RENAULT YOU HAVE FANS HERE

Audi S3 why not. And the Golf R

No AMG.... I wonder why? lol

Have the French ever lost a hot hatch battle?

@jurassicmatt2796

4 жыл бұрын

The new Type R maybe.

And the new Golf does not even have an independent rear suspension...

@zoransoce

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure where you read that. But it does have it. Only basic models don't have it, same as all other cars here.

Independent of the time,, the Golf GTI TCR is the best car for me! I'm not a pilot and time track don't bother me!

@BalkanBoyBiH

4 жыл бұрын

real world that GTI would eat them both mark my words

@fragu123

4 жыл бұрын

CarPassion ...what’s real world for you then - other than handling, accelerating and breaking?🤔🙄

@ThaDutchDK1989

4 жыл бұрын

Carpassion is a VAG fanboy and realworld is instagram pictures.

@fragu123

4 жыл бұрын

ThaDutchDK1989 ...ahhh, I see. Perspective drives believe I’d say.... rgds. from Sweden!

@TheSuburban15

4 жыл бұрын

I gotta say, that I'm a fan of vag, but what has that got to do with anything? Oh, is VAG an acronym for Volkswagen Group?

£41g for golf 😱

The real performance golf that could be in the test in the léon cupra with perf pack. Cheeper and quicker than this marketing product

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

The Cupra Leon is 245 is 25-30k the 300hp wil be 30k plus.......against the Golf R, is that what you meant?

In this comparison Renault is definitely the better car, however the i30N is a definite winner in the value department. If i only cared about performance, I'd probably take a Civic Type R over either, however I don't think the performance to price ratio of the i30N can be beaten, so it would be my choice personally.

French ingeneering at it's finest.

@W42PZ

4 жыл бұрын

So it will break down.

@Bogdan00

4 жыл бұрын

@@W42PZ You still think VW is reliable.

@bobby.matiro

3 жыл бұрын

Well the 1.9 TDi from VW isn't that bad.🤣🤣🤣

@Bogdan00

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobby.matiro That was happening 20y ago

@bobby.matiro

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bogdan00 I know, that's the point.👍😁

Yellow beast is the hottest car here

Golf for me.. to drive and to polish!

Where's the a45 amg?

@jameslove888

4 жыл бұрын

Nowhere as it’s not a competitor for these cars. Might as well ask where the M3 is.

@fragu123

4 жыл бұрын

Sean Armstrong ...that’s not a real hot hatch, isn’t it?

@jameslove888

4 жыл бұрын

jogu123 and neither is the A45. More a hyper hatch along with the likes of the RS3. Mercedes don’t have a competitor unless you look at something like an A250 in this price range.

@fragu123

4 жыл бұрын

James Love ...see. I was answering Sean! And yes, the AMG isn’t a hot hatch in its true sense.... let alone 4 wheel drive which takes it all away for me, not talking about affordability....

This i30N is terrific! Brand snobs for boring overated golf

I'd go for quality, AWD and class over speed.. VW Golf R. (Same price as the TCR).

@milo6507

4 жыл бұрын

Also no chance in corners the chassis is not good

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

Did it loose?

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

@@milo6507 Did it loose?

@milo6507

3 жыл бұрын

@@robv1139 what are you talking about ? Yes the golf lose Renault nr1

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

@@milo6507 I was referring to the N and Golf.

I’ll spend my cash on the VW, I don’t drive to work on a race track!

@cashbonanza963

4 жыл бұрын

get a GTD instead

@ARentz07

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think I'd spring for the TCR. A regular GTI would be just fine, especially with the performance pack.

@BobK5

4 жыл бұрын

ARentz07 I agree, the 7.5 performance pack is a great car for the road and I’d go for that over the TCR, the Megane would be best on the track which leaves the TCR nowhere

@robinmarples5198

4 жыл бұрын

Dépends on the roads you have to go to work, I ve got a megane 3 265 cup, and even when I arrive at work brakes and engine are smoking hot

@BobK5

4 жыл бұрын

Robin Marples that’s a good point, do you have any vacancies where you work?

£41k for a Golf.... No!

VW isn't a people's car anymore. Sadly. But now it's time for other car manufacturers to serve the middle-class, just like Renault and Hyundai do.

Mégane RS awesome,🏆

The i30n is $41000 in South africa , how come is it much cheaper than the golf everywhere else.

I think they didn’t give the golf a proper chance

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

Why?

my heart buys the megane , my head buys the golf and .... what was the other car?

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

Well if you were driving the Golf you could read the script off the back of it. Better still ask the driver to write it down for you and he can wait and give you it when you finish.

You could make the i30N even a better performer and you wouldn't reach the horendous price tag of that VW. It's just the image that makes them so expensive. Sadly.

Didn't know 50 cent is now reviewing cars

Why not use the Golf R?

@tonyb1223

4 жыл бұрын

Because the Golf R isn't as good as the TCR or handles as well.

@robv1139

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyb1223 Isn't it 37k too though?

That hyundai costs more than a golf r here in fucked for a country South Africa