There is no need to remove the whole column for this repair. My 2011 did this very thing 4 months ago. I got a column from a junkyard for $100...removed the lock module and installed in the vehicle without removing the column. I did drop it down to access the module.. Then towed it to vw where they reprogrammed it for $50. Done, done and done...

@trentcdrums

3 жыл бұрын

thank you

@maxum25

3 жыл бұрын

Can you share the location of this module in the car? From what I can find, its on the top of the steering column?

@NicelowZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxum25 yes it is on top of the steering column. You do need to drop the column down a bit to get to the screws. Not a huge deal.

@PetroIv20

Жыл бұрын

It is better to buy a new module. It costs about 120 dollars.

Damn I love the simplicity of 90's cars

@R3LF13

4 жыл бұрын

For real. Stuff like this makes me scared to death to have a late model out of warranty vehicle. Other that my 2017 Jeep, I'm going back to the 90s or later for everything else from here on out.

@R3LF13

4 жыл бұрын

@Aleïster Owley funny that you mention civic. Ive been thinking about an EG or an EK for a while now.

@Talynen

4 жыл бұрын

@Aleïster Owley heck yeah! Same here. Sold my old car and got a 91 civic a couple years ago.. knew nothing about car repair. Now I can do everything short of engine and gearbox rebuilds on it.

@Talynen

4 жыл бұрын

@@R3LF13 do it!

@tomjones5860

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching another KZreadr “Jonathan W”. He’s a tow truck driver that collects old cars. 20s-50s. He’ll pull 1930s car out of a garage that’s been sitting for 40yr. Clean the spark plugs and they start right up. I mean these cars are completely trashed but still start like it’s 1935. I want a brand new car built to 1930s spec with modern A/C. Boom perfection.

German engineering: "Why make it simple when we can make it complex."

If the part is on back order, this most likely is a high rate fail item.

@t0mt0mt0m

4 жыл бұрын

The entire car is a massive failure

@cheekanuble

4 жыл бұрын

a lot of things vw is back order its like they didnt expect their cars to be shit

@thoongchinglee4905

4 жыл бұрын

It looks like a major problem with vw

@cheesetoucher5941

4 жыл бұрын

not for a 9 year old VW...but true for anything "modern"

@thoongchinglee4905

4 жыл бұрын

@@cheesetoucher5941 usually those with tons of electronics

I have a VW Touareg 2014 V8TDI R-line, 230,000km and not a single problem, love it to bits

@ettienesauls5143

Ай бұрын

Really Bru....Im so puzzled regarding buying one but I'm so tempted and it's appears to be the perfect beast for what I intend to do with it.... please advise

"Forget the tool, sometimes your hand is best." Contender for best "That's What She Said" come back of 2020.

@MalcolmRowley

4 жыл бұрын

🤣

i've had many bmw's, vw's Mercedes in the past and recently got sick of dealing with issues on them, so i went back to Toyota. bored with it so considered a Touareg then watched this video. i'll stay with my boring 4runner.....thank you!

All those faults @5:54 are from scanning the car in the off position.

@TheBANDEMIC

4 жыл бұрын

well I think the problem was that he couldn't put it into the on position? aka turn the vehicle on

@justinmeeks1868

4 жыл бұрын

That, and "Please read DTC static (XXX module)" faults.

@dzelpwr

4 жыл бұрын

Correct. All the red highlighted modules all said "Cannot be reached," because there was no ignition switch power. However, there IS a trick to wake up at least a couple more of those modules, most importantly address 05 start auth./column lock/KESSY. That is the module where the problem was in this instance and clearing the codes from that module can at least allow you to start the car and be able to drive it. Trick is to hold the brake pedal, turn on the hazards, pull back on the turn signal stalk ("Flash to pass" headlights--the work on straight battery power, not switched power) and hold it there. Then try to scan the gateway and see what modules are online. It still won't be all of them, but you're only interested in that address 05-KESSY module. Login to that, see what the codes are, SAVE the codes to reference later, CLEAR the codes, then try to start it. In most VW/Audi products with that electronic steering column lock/KESSY module, that will allow it to respond to the start button/ignition switch signal and to be able to start the car. Ultimately, it would likely still need a new/repaired column module to ensure a long-lived fix, but at least if you had that scan tool and knew the trick to wake up enough of the CAN bus to communicate with address 05, you could at least drive it to the shop instead of towing it and the shop themselves could move it around easily to wherever was ideal for them to let it sit in a corner while the column is removed and sent out for repair.

I had the same problem. It cost me 400 dollars in Poland. Just changed faulty module and made an adaptation without removing the whole column.

Could u imagine this being your only car ?? And u wake up and it’s gone for 3 weeks and plausible 4K ?? And backed order ?? Nope

@hamyncheese

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I keep a 1967 Chevy with a 327 ready to roll any time I need it.

Nobody: Steering in cars is too simple and reliable Germans: HOLD DAS BEERSKY SCHNELL

Bought myself a Prado 2007 model. Had it vetted at a reliable mach. It's used as holiday car. Stands weeks at times. Get in turn the key and hey presto it runs. NO ISSUES peace of mind. The money he spent on repairs I spend on holiday. No brainer.

Not a Touareg owner but love my TDI! Had to watch this one. TDI's get no love in the states, ahem diesel gate, but looking beyond that they are such a fun power band to use on the street. Torrrrrque everywhere, all the time, with handling of a GTI.

@jamesmedina2062

4 жыл бұрын

David Brunner how is the maintenance as far as particulate filter and def fluid? any costs associated?

I just had this come up on my 2011 TDI Touareg as well. Same thing, part was on back order, took 3 weeks to get everything done. I didn't know about the yellow lever to switch it into neutral, I just used CAA and got them to dolly it. Good info boys.

I saw one of these on my commute home yesterday and it immediately made me think of the Speed Academy Touareg and how it's holding up. Ooof.

I owned a 2007 Audi Q7 TDi. Once I switched the suspension to a KW V3 suspension and ran 18s I loved the vehicle tremendously. That said, I also had this issue - for thankfully it was covered under warranty. The thing that did drive me crazy, and ultimately had me sell the car back to Audi under the Diesel buyback program, was the Diesel Particulate Exhaust System which would never properly clean itself and would require dealer visits for them to put it through a burn cycle - this then led to other misfiring issues in the engine. Towing was awesome, drove amazingly, but the vehicle at the end wasn't worth keeping once the Dieselgate issues hit the resale value. Great vehicle if you want to be your own mechanic, otherwise avoid - but I did love it.

@speedacademy

4 жыл бұрын

Well put, if you dont want to do you own work, these cost a pretty penny.

Holy crap! $1800 on a failure that came out of nowhere?! Wowowow

Good info and great to see your mechanic using VCDS and to see the CAN Gateway installation list. Most of the modules in red were that way because they were unable to come online and retrieve information from. You'll see the note on the right that says "Cannot be reached". That's because the column module was not allowing ignition switch power to come online. There is a trick that would be good to pass on and would be good for your own knowledge too if you buy VCDS or OBDEleven (Android bluetooth OBD2 tool with VAG OE level capabilities). You can wake up enough of the various CAN buses enough to at least retrieve codes from the module in question here: the address 05 steering column lock/start authorization/KESSY module. The trick to do that is to get in the car, hold your foot on the brake, turn on the hazards, pull back on the turn signal stalk ("flash to pass" high beam flash) and hold it so it keeps the high beams on. Then use your scan tool to login to the address 05 ESCL/start auth/KESSY module. Read the codes. Ideally you'd either save them to reference later or write them down. Then clear the codes. Once you clear the codes, you should be able to start the car. That way you're not fumbling around trying to find the manual shift release and paying for a tow. You could just clear the codes and drive it to the shop. This would also be good info to pass onto your technician so it's easier on him as well, he could drive the vehicle to a corner of his shop where he could disassemble things and be able to leave it there while waiting for the refurbished module to come back. Sometimes clearing codes like that will allow it to work for many weeks without issue, but when the fault starts to recur more frequently, definitely should just have it repaired rather than attempt to limp things along with this trick. Gets old having to do that.

@speedacademy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the solid tip! I’ll look into that!

wow man you really lucked out finding such a good mechanic and his work should be complimented 👏

I've got a VCDS cable, an older can+ one but it still works, I've had a few clocksprings fail so I just disabled the modules until they were replaced. Easier said then done, but it can be done (sometimes).

I glad the touareg is back i love my touareg like you said is a awesome suv and the TDI engine is so nice 👌👌👌👌

Follow your channel just for the Touareg updates 😁👍🏻 Best TDI SUV out there

Would a VW be a real VW without catastrophic electronics failure?

It’s fooked when yo have a computer controlling a steering column

@komentierer

4 жыл бұрын

Every modern car has that.

@scoobygms210

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah pretty much every non economy car from like 2015 and up has a steering control module

@tomjones5860

4 жыл бұрын

You are not wrong. Fooked up.

@Hallowsaw

4 жыл бұрын

@@komentierer not true

@komentierer

4 жыл бұрын

@@Hallowsaw Yes, it is. Insurance companies demand electronic steering locks.

There’s a reason cars from the 80’s and 90’s are appreciating in value. Yes they are becoming classics, the second reason is they have less to go wrong with them, parts art cheaper/simplistic, and you don’t need proprietary software to work on one.

well, i am not surprised

These cars are over engineered to the point that they are untrustworthy in the long run.

@Hallowsaw

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, VW is just a crappy company except for porsche and I hardly would consider them to be a VW. Audi is junk, VW is junk

@Adetokunbo03

4 жыл бұрын

I never had any problems with mine

That’s why I love old school mechanical operation

All these people saying "omg its unreliable". It's a very uncommon issue and the car has over over 250000 km on it in addition to being 9 years old.

Steering angle sensor..... my old Passat has an almost identical steering column. VW wanted 800$ for the steering angle sensor..... crazy! I got the whole column from a wrecker for 175$, took the sensor out, put it into the passat..... reset the steering angle sensor with Rosstech, done...... lasted as long as the car did.... The old one had a plastic part that had snapped off inside....not sure how that would have happened...... probably a design fault. Tyco product. Anyway.....I have a 2014 TDI Touareg R-line now, and really love the thing.

Happens on a lot of Audi and vw touareg, Porsche cayenne. Steering lock module, it unlocks and tells rest of the car to wake up. You can repair it yourself if you know how to solder and replace micro switches. They sell kits for it, or there are places that rebuild the modules.

@carlstoutamire9525

4 жыл бұрын

It would be nice if you would share that information. My car is doing this once in a while but the light goes off immediately after start up and has never left me stranded. Thanks!

Same thing happened to me, the steering column lock is a common failure item. It fails more often in the cold!

@sheronlesley8858

4 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to mine. Some 3weeks back and its yet to be sorted. Quite disappointing really

There is no reason a steering column should be so complex that needs a module and can immobilize a vehicle. Please, $1800 - $3000 is outrageous for technology that is overkill and not needed. Steering systems were working well enough and were cost effective when we had hydraulic systems.

A family friend had a Touareg that VW replaced the entire dash assy in twice under warranty. When it died again for the third time they bought it back from her.

A much appreciated reminder why sold my last vw a couple decades ago! lol

Brother in law had same fault (or very similar) on a brand new 2 week old Passat. Towed away. Took weeks to fix.

Is this a problem with the keesy? Or does it also happen with regular key/lock systems?

Wow, didn't realize how much this video resonates with VW & non-VW drivers. @SpeedAcademy, any updates with the Touareg after another year? Did you unload it?

Any more recent updates on the Touareg? Do you still have it? Did you ever get an ECU tune?

Hey, I’m looking to get a Touareg. I do a lot of driving, including towing, hauling and idling...lol. Looking for a diesel, luxury/value for money, mid-size suv. Any update on your Touareg?

I just brought one,high klms,looks and drives beautifully.....pray for me.

Still have the car? Any updates or things you've done to it? Thanks!

As much of a disappointment as this is, after reading the video title, I'm just glad it wasn't something diesel engine related, like maybe a high pressure fuel pump. As an owner of one of these (as well as other less expensive vw tdis) it's nice to know what the common failures are before they happen.

Just happened the same problem to my 2011/12 Touareg VR6, here in Brazil, in the middle of the pandemia, I cant even order the steering wheel module at the VW dealer, Does any one figure out a different solution?

Seems like the vagcom is really important for vw’s. I already have one that I used for my old CC. Planning on getting a touareg

I'd much appreciate a video on this vehicle about towing. Specifically towing a car if possible. I'm looking to buy one and I know the older ones with air suspension are loved for their towing abilities, but I'd really prefer the newer model, but they don't have the air suspension.

Did you notice any creeking sounds coming from the front driver side prior to this issue with the steering column?

Nice to see a 356 on the lift at Rob's shop

what a bummer. we have a 2007 golf that's had a bunch of odd issues (things you wouldn't expect to fail) including the ignition barrel falling to bits & feels like the brand new replacement is about to do the same thing after a couple of years.

My Touareg encountered the exactly same chaos last couple days ago from nowhere..., even worse because the freaking handbrake was on....The tow company tried three different tow trucks to get my car towed to vw dealer shop (It was finally towed by putting dolly wheel underneath the front two wheels). And now the dealer told me the entire steering column has to be replaced... so frustrating, what a nightmare.

If the column is on back order it seems VW is well aware of that failure. Is there no service bulletin for it? Warranty replacement? As its a safety issue it seems like there should be.

3k for rebuilding a steering lock lmao. The car is almost totaled. That's modern VW for you.

@samadrid6321

4 жыл бұрын

Just like modern BMW and Mercedes. All garbage.

@gregorywills2231

4 жыл бұрын

@@samadrid6321 Yeah, I agree. As much as I love German cars I'd never buy one.

@blackvulcan100

4 жыл бұрын

@@samadrid6321 Yes German engineering not what it used to be we use VW at work they all have something wrong with them, they are rubbish

@samadrid6321

4 жыл бұрын

@@blackvulcan100 maybe current engineering schools require time wadting classes like The Thermodynamics of Intersectionality.

@samadrid6321

4 жыл бұрын

Bad design. They know the batteries need replacement, so they should make it an easy job. But no, battery replacement is 2K and labor is 5K.

Is there an update on the Touareg?

I’m glad I have the 2010 model and has actual power steering.

It's very common problem with a lot of cars from this era: vw, audi, bmw, volvo, subaru. Almost every with electronic steering lock and systems related with this. For some cars it can go bad even while driving which is terrifying. I've had this problem with my volvo (not starting because of steering lock fault). Decided just to program this system out and forgot about it. You don't even notice :) Cost arround 150 euros, which is, i think, up to 200usd.

@ganbuno

Жыл бұрын

How did you program the system out?

Im surprised Charles from Humble Mechanic has not commented on this video yet, or at least I couldn't find his comment

Hows the rolled up note in the ashtray

I drive a 2016 Touareg TDI with 20,000 miles on it. Loooove the fuel range of 700 miles...thoughts?

Holy hell ! He still loves this car after this...but when a Japanese car gives a tiny error, the whole German fanboy community cheers. For sure there is a double standard in how people view cars.

This is the problem with putting way too many relays/electronics in newer vehicles, my 2002 Subaru WRX wagon (Stage 2+ Protuned) is still going strong after 205k miles with no issues! Electronics make cars worse since more things can go wrong.

@jamesmedina2062

4 жыл бұрын

If you don't overboost them, the EJ WRX's are reliable huh?

@TassieLorenzo

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmedina2062 The 2.0L ones are pretty good, the EJ20G, EJ205, EJ207 (forged pistons on the EJ207) -- it's the 2.5L which were more problematic.

Any update on the Touareg TDI?

What a car. Steering lock doesn't work so it disables the engine. Wow.

@Mshi-

Жыл бұрын

A literal mind fuck

Who did the rebuild on this module?

Buy a 4WD Toyota 4Runner, Land Cruiser, or Sequoia next. Other than that, the next best thing is a AWD Toyota Higlander, Honda Pilot, or Acura MDX after making sure you dig for model years without engine and transmission issues. I'm actually partial to used old used police Ford Explorers, those cars are genuinely fast.

Why did it break? Will it fail again? How about a towing demonstration in the VW?

J764 Steering lock module failure, most common on Jetta's ( some even had warranty extensions). Wait until you have a failed glow plug that's frozen in the head, THAT is scary. This Touareg likely has more in common with an A6/A8 than almost any VW and parts are priced accordingly.

Do you still have the Touareg?

I'm in the middle of rebuilding a salvage 2015 Q5 on my channel. Really hope I don't run into this problem in the future :/

Probably the same as my e91 you can get a mini board that you plug in to the instead of the steering lock module. It was around 30 bucks. Steering rack emulator, column sure looks the same. Same reset of the angle after fitting too.

@yecatnodle

4 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me more about that? I have the same issue wit my car and definitely don't have $1800 to spend.

@Lou-f

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Stacey google e90 starring rack emulator and you’ll find it on the forums

Mines just did this Wednesday morning

Do you see this happen with Cayennes as well?

@speedacademy

4 жыл бұрын

It can since the two are basically the same. Again, not much info on this out on the internet so its hard to say how common it is.

German engineering at its best.... :-)

@worlow1841

4 жыл бұрын

Robert Kohut deine Mutter unter meinem Tisch

@robertweiser7122

3 жыл бұрын

Ya should see the vids of one of these OFF ROAD.. makes the jeep look like any other STREET suv!!

Ohh man... I have a ‘12; fingers crossed!

You know, you can do the audio mod, reverse mirror dip, folding mirrors, Google earth, parking heater, video in motion and much more. With just a VCDS.

@speedacademy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

I noticed 253,000 miles in the odometer- to me you’ve gotten your money’s worth.

@dufftime

4 жыл бұрын

i think the 253k was in kms, so about 157k miles. also, he bought car last year and it was already high, i think it came with 240k kms. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYxmuNd_lsvSYKw.html

Bro i had always this question all these years what do you do guys for a living??

@reidfenwick

4 жыл бұрын

Marios Nikolaou this is their full time job

Honestly, this is not a maintenance item. This is poor reliability design from VW. They should be taking ownership and fixing this at a low cost or if not free. This is the kind of poor product and service which will drive customers away from your brand for their lifetime.

@jamesmedina2062

4 жыл бұрын

Sathianandaraj Ranganatham very true

A 100 series Land Cruiser would have been a better idea.

@speedacademy

4 жыл бұрын

Oh trust me, I wanted one so bad. Then I drove it. Its like a big tank and gets the same gas mileage as one. I wanted something a bit more agile, towed great, and got great mileage.

Can we get an update please?

Had the same issue on my 2005 Passat B6. Cost me 2000€ because the comfort control module had to be replaced.

I was thinking of buying one from watching your previous video. Glad I watched this one. This will make me trash the idea to purchase one. Da** it!

No warranty?

*First mistake. Well you already know what that it.*

I watched the video and couldn’t understand what actually went wrong with the car? What did you replace specifically?

@speedacademy

4 жыл бұрын

The steering lock module was faulty. Its built into the steering column so hard to show the piece. Usually requires replacing the entire column but Rob had a specialist fix it on the column

take it to the track!!

Did you try turning it off and turning back on?

Subtle Arc’teryx puffer flex

Well.... I wont be getting one of these lol but glad its fixed now!!

welcome to the VW ownership nightmare. my Touareg is great when it works and an expensive pile of junk when it doesn't. i think German luxury vehicles were designed to convince customers to buy Toyota and Lexus vehicles-more dependable and easy to maintain. Had my Touareg in for 3 days to repair emission hardware under the VW extended warranty. 20 minutes later the check engine light is on again. comments here are right on- you must own a VCDS from Ross Tech to own any VW-Audi product. if you seriously want to own VW-Audi junk it will cut dealer visits in half and save you money.

@mtnman1984

4 жыл бұрын

Ross Tech and ECS Tuning is your friend. One thing I'll say is that the 2003 A6 2.7T seemed to be engineered to be serviced where my wife's, then girlfriend's, Ford Fusion seemed to be made to be assembled. It also seems like VAG quality took a shit after Piech took a lesser role.

@eagle5720

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2013 toureg now with the v6 gas engine but my problem so far is that it drink gas hard and I also the have steering problem with my 2006 Jetta and it's the vcds from ross tech fix that problem now the cable come more hand incase I developed any problem with my toureg

They had a recall on earlier model VWs for this problem

Its not exceptionally common but the part is back ordered

How much $?

First of many more to come Specially electrical

should have bought a Toyota

An electrical problem on a Volkswagen? I didn't see that coming

@Adetokunbo03

4 жыл бұрын

Rick B5005 I didn’t either mine has 260,000 no issues

My Brother bought a running and driving Touareg for $1000. All these VW will end up in the Junkyard. Modules, Computers, ect is all way to expensive to repair and the dealers want an Arm and a leg for all these parts. I'm German and will never buy another Modern VW again

@jamesmedina2062

4 жыл бұрын

ZE_GERMAN My friend Klaus is Bavarian and he has a serious soft spot for BMW's but for VW: no way! Me too. I had 3 Passats and while the VR6 were a joy, the 1.8t wasnt very smooth and usually I could not keep up with repairs. Needless to say Klaus got his wife a CRV and I'm in a new Civic. He drive a fast M3 but he repairs it mostly himself.

@tonychau1983

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmedina2062 are they really that bad. Was thinking about switching brands for more fun

@jamesmedina2062

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Chau from what brand to what? VW?

@tonychau1983

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmedina2062 honda

@jamesmedina2062

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Chau so you want to get a Honda or you have a honda?

This got me thinking. My 2019 push button Honda Pilot transmission...how would I get it into neutral if it broke??🤔🤔🤔

@jamesmedina2062

4 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Barbeau Its rather stupid design. I hate the electronic brake in my Civic but it was fundamental to the progress towards autonomous safety systems. Hopefully your Honda switches, sensors, and solenoids last a long time.

It must be a good feeling knowing you can make a video about your car failing and the ad revenue will pay for it 😁 That’s why he’s smiling the whole time

@speedacademy

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! This video will need about 100K+ views to pay for the fix so I petition everyone watch it twice :)

It is because aa batteries lodged in the vent tube under the seat. ha!

German cars are meant for use during its warranty time. After warranty they are royally fucked. The ppl who buy second hand "new" german cars most likely need a couple grand worth of work.