VW Golf R20 Review: Is The Fastest Golf Ever Worth £50,000? | 4K
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Alex Kersten slides aboard the new Golf R20 years, a car that celebrates the 20th anniversary of the Golf R, to see if it's worth the nearly £50,000 asking price. And if blue wheels make sense.
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5 grand for 13 more horse power and very minimal aesthetic changes… no thank you
@jaydenandrews02
Жыл бұрын
😂my exact thoughts. Won't even compete with an RS3. What's even the point. They should've just made it 400HP since it's the last Golf R
@terokaakinen7061
Жыл бұрын
5-cyliner version would be a blast...💪🏼
@TML34
Жыл бұрын
You won’t even feel 13hp. This is a marketing exercise.
@JBthemanwithcars
Жыл бұрын
Adding the extra equipment to a standard R would make it more expensive than a new R20. My wife has covered 3,000 miles in her R20 and absolutely loves it. We’ve had 2 MK8 R’s and I can say from experience that the R20 feels far better when pushed hard as there is less turbo lag and the DSG gearbox feels much sharper.
@lewiscannon8213
Жыл бұрын
£5,000 premium over the already ridiculous price and you still don't get a bonnet strut. 🤣🤣🤣
333 hp up from the stock 320 hp 😂 a simple stage 2 golf r with just breather mods and a tune will reliably put out 450hp. they should've dropped the 2.5T rs3 engine in it and made it an exclusive run limited to 250 models and called the R25. everyone would love that and it would get a lot of attention on youtube and the tuning scene.
@jordank195
Жыл бұрын
Ayy that’s not a bad idea actually. I’d get behind that
@chimaera6234
Жыл бұрын
Best idea ever, seriously
@esthetics4512
Жыл бұрын
💯indeed sir
@RICHARD10195
Жыл бұрын
Read my mind
@Streamerabi
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it bro.. but they did the opposite and destroyed the R name
Cool to see Alex again! But an extra £5,000 for not a whole lot seems a bit too much of a reach imo
@TermlessHGW
Жыл бұрын
Plus those side mirrors look like you broke yours off and went to the junkyard for a pair.
@ManLikeYas
Жыл бұрын
It’s a sad reality that people will pay the extra money just for the name rather than what it brings to the table. VW would not make this car if it couldn’t sell it in numbers and that’s the sad thing. Expected more
@Inpreesme
Жыл бұрын
@@ManLikeYas Jack up the price adding basically nothing to the manufacturing costs you actually don’t have to sell as many to make a lot more profit
@vintageyu-hi-oh4271
Жыл бұрын
The engine bay is ugly, other than that a fanatic car ❤
@rhyswilliams4893
Жыл бұрын
I know Golf lovers who will get this because it's "better than the R"
It's actually more than a 5,000 pound upcharge after paying someone to paint all the blue bits another color.
@Zorrolord
Жыл бұрын
Just choose another factory color if you are not happy with the blue accents? You can always opt for lapiz blue and black trim and full black with black trim.
this makes the toyota gr yaris look like a right bargain
@kurisanisilinda
Жыл бұрын
Undisputed
@Zorrolord
Жыл бұрын
True but the yaris looses against the golf in every category besides maybe sound (unless you fit the Golf with the akrapovic). They are really not anymore comparable at this point cuz the Golf R is another league.
Alex is just a great motor journalist, thanks for these honest videos.
@princecornerkick
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The other guy is pants.
Wow! £50K and still no bonnet gas struts. I was a bit peeved on my £37K GTI
@ResevoirGod
Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you pay that much for a GTI
@BalkanBoyBiH
Жыл бұрын
@@ResevoirGod 37k is a 2e hand gti in holland
@harryblack8686
Жыл бұрын
It's a joke Ashley. They cost me £15 off eBay for my Skoda Octavia. Why on earth would you not fit them to every car you build 🤷🏽♂️
@adogmcdizzle
Жыл бұрын
@@harryblack8686 do the maths and you’ll quickly understand why. If VW buy them for £3 and sell 300,000 golfs a year that is £900k…. Not to mention the development cost and everything else involved. They probably employ an engineer on £50k just to manage the supplier and move decimal points around on a drawing.
@alivekicking6247
Жыл бұрын
And I'm peeved my 2018 Cupra 300 doesn't have them. And the was 2nd hand and £19k
Wow! Sensible motoring advice from Alex? I'm very impressed AutoTrader!
Spend 200 on a more aggressive alignment, 500 on a tune, there's your regular R beating this by miles. God I hate manufacturers launching "The new super ultra mega hyper version" of a car with +10bhp and slightly more camber/toe making it the "special hardcore version". Every. Single. Time. Won't even mention the color changes and wheels. Pardon me, lunch is about to visit my toncils for the second time today. (Great review though Alex! Now get back to the NC Miata :D )
@esthetics4512
Жыл бұрын
💯
@myo7777
Жыл бұрын
Clearly ypu don't understand performance golf's 🤦🏻♂️
@RandomGuy-ej9gr
Жыл бұрын
@@myo7777 Clearly VW doesn't either by releasing this 🤦♂
@myo7777
Жыл бұрын
@@RandomGuy-ej9gr you think spending a grand on a old beat down r will be better than this? If anyone know anything about golfs you could safely assume there's a going to be some decent upgrades. Most likely a slightly different turbo, maybe some ironed out bugs in the engine, since the tcr has full aluminium bits it wouldn't surprise me if this was the case aswell along with a few styling features, mvh improvements and not to mention the vin in 15 years time.
Fantastic review Alex - thank you,
Another great video Alex 👍 keep it up mate🤜
M340i for that price over a golf 😂 these manufacturers are getting out of hand
@lewiscannon8213
Жыл бұрын
Vw got out of hand 20 years ago lol
@alexis944s2
Жыл бұрын
M340i for 50k? Not here man... lucky if find a 330i for 50k
@R1ckmister
Жыл бұрын
@@alexis944s2 I mean it’s relative to where you are 😂 the VW probably is more where you are ….. just know I paid much less than even this for my own M340i, it’s more practical & powerful too.
Wish this sounded like the golf IV and V, R32's. I just love those so much, they sound insane.
@axe2grind244
Жыл бұрын
Seriously. I have an ‘04 GTI 24v VR6 that sounds 100x better than this, and the R32’s sound 500x better.
An honest review on a magazine car channel, top stuff and very rare.
hope your neck gets better soon, Alex! fun video!
Just went on the configuraor - maxed out it tops £60k - I'll have a used RS3 for that money thanks
@esthetics4512
Жыл бұрын
Wise decision
@_ph4nt0mzz_47
Жыл бұрын
Fk the rs3 I could get a used current gen M5C if I wanted to, or a fkn used RS6 for that ungodly price, or even an E63S AMG for that flipping hell. In fact, save up 2 more years, add £20k to the price tag, and Id have a McLaren or a Gallardo. Car manufacturers need a right kick up the ass from the public, but unfortunately there are too many half brains drooling over every new shiny overpriced tin can, which only encourages them to hike up prices even more. It's becoming a right joke it is.
@Zorrolord
Жыл бұрын
Good luck finding an RS3, even a used one with less than 20k miles is much more expensive than the NEW Golf 8R 20. Stop making unrealistic comparisons and interchange categories that cannot be compared, the RS3 is just on another price point than the Golf R, period.
@_ph4nt0mzz_47
Жыл бұрын
@@Zorrolord no, no it's not more expensive LMAOO. U can find a shit ton of '20 and '19 RS3s well under 20k miles for MUCH less than this golf variant 😂😂 I'm talking like upwards of £10k less than this golf's MSRP. In fact there's 4 whole 2022 RS3s on sale, with 3k,5k,7k, and 8.8k miles respectively, ALL UNDER £55k, which is only £6k more than this golf. And none of those NEW RS3s have been written off, or damaged in any way. Just accept that the golf in general has been overpriced for years now.
@ak-jxrdy-7
Жыл бұрын
@@_ph4nt0mzz_47 Same with every other issue in the world, people are just too afraid to speak up and just gobble up whatever is handed to them because we cannot handle conflict and confrontation anymore. We should simply not buy the product and it will improve, trust me.
Great stuff 👏
I love how my base spec Golf Life has exactly the same digital dash / infotainment as this Golf
£30K saving tip, buy a car with EA888 for £15K, spend £5K on engine and suspension! And you'll even have real buttons!
@butchmeister80
Жыл бұрын
Why you want buttons do you want buttons on your phone?
@RandomGuy-ej9gr
Жыл бұрын
@@butchmeister80 Because some people prefer practicality over flashiness? 🤣
@butchmeister80
Жыл бұрын
@@RandomGuy-ej9gr what’s diff between pushing a button or a screen it’s the same thing!?
@JDMLOVER86
2 ай бұрын
@@butchmeister80 The screen can lag, be filled with unnecessary menus and stuff for something as simple as Turning ESC off, and if it breaks you lose all your buttons, just one, screens are great yes, so are infotainment units, but it sucks to have all the car controls on a laggy fragile screen that looks like it belongs on a Nissan Micra
@butchmeister80
2 ай бұрын
@@JDMLOVER86 it can be updated and made more modern more options old buttons can’t be!
Alex nice review I have to agree I’m not sure the extra cost is worth it but there are many who will snap them up.
Comment #2😊 What would make it special is the iconic 2.5T 5 pot motor in the RS models
@carlosgomez_c137
Жыл бұрын
RS3 is over-protected, VW never get its engine on any other Hot Hatch. Only is installed on the Formentor, with 10HP less and... It's not a HH.
@vladislavdimitrov4646
Жыл бұрын
@@carlosgomez_c137 HH?
@ak-jxrdy-7
Жыл бұрын
@@vladislavdimitrov4646 Hot hatch. Pro tip - when you don't know abbreviations for something, look at the context they are used in, you might be able to figure it out without having to ask.
Alex: "Can you believe it's been 20years since VW made the R32?" My old ass: That doesn't sound right, the MkIII was still in production in 1993. Oh wait, OH MY GOD!!
Never disappoint
Alex: Legend.
Had a mk4 R32 loved it. Now have a mk8 rline similar looks for a lot less price
How much is the Performance Pack on a standard R? This needs to be factored in when deciding on whether the £5k price hike is worth it over the standard R.
imo the first golf had my heart for me, but the new one is glorious
Alex! Brilliant! And another belting review. Excellent. Blue wheels? What? Why? Halfords, 'boy-racer' indeed on 50k worth of motor. No chance. Not special enough... and that is coming from a VW 'fan'. Cheers Alex.
Additional dealer markup is going to be insane as well.
Golf R is such a great all rounder. I can’t get my head around the jump in prices 😢
@WolfgangVonKempelen838
Жыл бұрын
Greed perhaps?
Had one of these Golf R-Lines, must say it was a nice car to drive, but I bet this is a different gravy, but for the price tho, would you really buy this compare to other 50k cars out there?
For that price, the akrapovic exhaust should be standard
So they gave the R32 a big ol VR6 up front and gave the R20 13 more hp and blue wheels.. nice.
I haven't been able to get my hands on the normal r so ill just have to take you at your word..do pray tell,how does torque feel spicy?
Is Alex wearing a Peugeot themed hoodie in a VW review. 😂 Guy’s a legend!
Its funny even this day golf v R32 is still my favourite car and am turning 25 years old this year
@kevinvandorst
Жыл бұрын
Yeah love that car.
I do like the car, I personally own a Golf R MK 7.5 but I usually wait for the price to go down from 40-50k to around 25k then I buy one. 333bhp kind of meh though for a stock anniversary edition car. I have 495bhp in my golf R right now and I'm happy with it but no way I'm paying 50k for a car.
More Alex!
nice to see alex in a normal fashion :D
I will keep my mk7.5 gti it’s almost the r but a lot less money yet I have to have those blue rims i wish I can find them haven’t seen them online yet
@Zorrolord
Жыл бұрын
It is not almost the R, FWD is in no world comparable to AWD regardless of your claims and tune. If you are beyond 300 HP you NEED AWD or else you just have never seen the real difference for yourself.
just get the regular Golf R with a 6 speed manual. insane fun to drive.
I’ll stick with my 7.5R 3-door manual thanks. Old school hot hatch fun.
@thespeedlife
Жыл бұрын
Much better choice!
@Zorrolord
Жыл бұрын
7,5 and 7R looks so boring tho compared to the new 8R, 7th gen just looks like the regular family wagon car allround. Also apperantly they have horrible turbo lag.
@nickhorne5493
Жыл бұрын
@@Zorrolord just out curiosity how many golf r have you had mate
@RandomGuy-ej9gr
Жыл бұрын
@@nickhorne5493 Probably never even stood close to one 😂
@nickhorne5493
Жыл бұрын
@@RandomGuy-ej9gr ya know wot am saying mate am on like my fourth 7.5 now had a tcr last back in a 7.5 r again turbo lag pulls up hills in fifth 😂💪
What tyres are fitted standard?
Auto Alex nice!
3:15 ... yep, my "face" too when i saw 4 the 1st time the mk8 ... and still, 2 year later, and i have "the same face" :)))))))
thought if they were doing a super special edition they might have used the 2.5l five cylinder from the TTS
Love Alex
Lmao sticking on some Lapiz Blue mirror caps and asking for 5k is a new level of audaciousness
Yes Alex!
Can get a nearly new 340i for that much ffs vw
@Zorrolord
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and the BMW will loose its value much much quicker.
I was put off instantly when you lifted the bonnet and couldn't take your hand off the bonnet because it doesn't have gas struts to hold it open. It's little bits like that for me that a 50k car just need to have.
Good to have Alex back, always a fun presenter with sound saving advice this time too! Yeah the blue hints, makes one not want or lust after it. A very lazy anniversary model.
Could have an A45s for that money with an extra 100hp and a cleverer diff.
I‘ll just like APR stage 2 the standard R with this inflation
Nah man, a manual Mk7 GTI is all the Golf I would ever need
We love to experience driving this car seems to have good performance
I need this car!!!!
I’d be risking the 50k going all in on a used Giulia QV instead
@whosdondada
Жыл бұрын
Good choice
Than you
I had a 1.5 Golf hire car recently and really like how it drove. I bet this one is even more fabulous! Perhaps a bit pricey, but I'm just thankful VW are still making cool and fun cars for petrol heads.
@ak-jxrdy-7
Жыл бұрын
They're literally ending production of the Golf, lol.
An ECU remap on a regular R would be a tenth of the price with 50 more horses
Happy to be corrected but I thought the Clubsport S was the fastest production Golf produced? Maybe I’m biased as I have one 😉!
I would rather have the standard 8R and spend the difference on options.
Add DCC, winter pack, pan roof, HUD, some rear airbags (which really should be standard), park assist, rear camera, HK audio and you're up to £56k
For me those blue accents don't work well with the exterior but they're great for the interior. And for such a price, the lack of gas struts for a bonnet is such a turn off
Performance pack is 2300 quid on the standard r, so is 2700 extra worth it for the extra details of 20 years badge, 13 bhp, tighter suspension and more response from the engine? Time will tell
@neilooo1998
8 ай бұрын
Don't forget the leather seats....
It is already almost in production for a year, the R20 Model will soon disappear the reviewer kind of spread wrong info saying "it will only be sold for a year" when in fact it is the last 3-4 months left of the 1 year period it is beeing sold in. To speak facts, if you want one then get it now or live forever with the fact that you missed out.
Same horsepower as my forester 333hp Nioce!!
People complaining it isn't worth the extra or that it's underpowered. These will hold their money and be more of a collectors item in the future
Use to love the Golf, but after they killed off the 3 door it all ended.. The GTI & R should be 3 door only cars !
This looks awesome 🤩🤩🤩
no gas strut for the bonnet! Even my 2013 mk7 tdi has a bloody gas struts.
My mk6 golf R stage 2. So around 330bhp does 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. So I'll keep that but thanks vw for trying
@nickhorne5493
Жыл бұрын
😂
If you put your hand over the badge, the new bumper makes it look a bit like a Megane 🤔
What would get nicked in no time, if you had one?
Imagine if they just did it right with a turbo VR6 engine
You’d have more fun in the car on your hoodie Alex 😁
For that kind of premium VW cud have at the minimum done more to distinguish it from the standard R !
What's up with these insane prices? They did the same thing with the civic type r.
Biggest question is how much better than a GR Corolla ?
Very fastest golf and the the technology is amazining
They should have just put the inline 5 turbo in this
Does this still not come with adaptive dampers standard?
@nickhorne5493
Жыл бұрын
It will do mate, it’s like the performance +1
Can someone sponsor a turbo on my golf 4 1.8 petrol non-turbo? Please!
The power increase doesn’t even come close to the A45 or the GLA45 at 381hp. If you go for the latest S variant you’re well over the 400hp (420 I believe?) power output. You’ve not convinced me…
@Zorrolord
Жыл бұрын
AMG prolly overtuned the engies from factory which is basicly just stage 1 from factory but a heavy software tune always goes to cost of the longevity of your motor. A subtle increase like with the Golf R is way better for longevity. Sure 13 HP is tiny i also think they couldhave gone to 340 or 350 total HP with it but meh, where are you gonna use it anyways? Also consider the antilag feature which is only programmed into the R20 instead the regular which probably makes the most difference here.
It's the exclusivity that you are truly paying for. 5 grand for a vehicle that's only being built for 1 yr isn't a bad investment in my opinion.
Tyres, fuel .... and a stage 1 tune... Still quids in with original Golf R
A golf r that would be worth 50k would be one with the rs3 motor and Trans in it delete the light bar throw some club sport style sears and go back to an updated version of the mk7.5 interior.
Nice car - the only issue is the blue wheels and blue mirrors - looks too aftermarket. What the heck VW ?
Just get a standard mo8 and map it. Vw going down the Audi route with paying for extras 😂
Do you remember the Golf W12?
50 gs😮 i think its only worth it collectorwise as a second hand buy few years from now .....who ever buys it 1st isnt making a penny. Also they shudda made it 2.20 ltrs (20yrs) and gave it way more power.
Considering it's the last Golf to be made, they could have done something special with it 😔 5 cylinder maybe? Or bigger power hike from the 2 litre?
@butchmeister80
Жыл бұрын
It’s not slow is it
@Gazshadows
Жыл бұрын
@@butchmeister80 I didn't say it was slow, mate. Read what I said..
Nice hood struts 😆😆
Make it 10k more and put the 2.5 5cyl in there and that’s a winner
Is it the end of Euroboxes?
I wonder how this will compare to GR Corolla
Ah 6:05 - the classic Golf fault "front assist unavailable" which could mean anything 😂
The mirror won't stand out if you buy the car in blue... The rims , I agree they are not cool. Should have at least have their own unique set of rims like RS3 did with Performance
Does it have a volume & AC knobs for that extra?