This guy is the master of bore sighting.

I was invited by a long time friend to meet him at the Mesa test center to have one of his match rifles tested. What an absolutely great experience! He wanted two different lots, one just for practice and the other for serious competition. The practice lot was of course cheaper ammo but still more than I’ve ever spent for any .22 ammo in my life. After testing he purchased almost $4,000 worth of this fine ammo. They did not sell directly from this facility, but lined him up with one of there distributors across the country. This was truly one experience I’ll never forget. The technician was soooooo pleasant and super knowledgeable. It still amazes me how you can have 5 rifles by the same manufacturer and same model and each rifle will like one lot of ammo more than the others.

@vudoogunworks

2 жыл бұрын

Its a great group of guys over there.

WOW, if I pull the trigger on a Vudoo it will take a trip to AZ.

I'll be ordering this with my rifle for sure!!! What an amazing process!

Great video. My Smallbore F Class Rifle loves Lapua Center X ammo.

Damn what a nice job to have.

@ctsteve1967

4 жыл бұрын

no not really, that guy will go postal one day

@meatspear4205

4 жыл бұрын

@@ctsteve1967 and hit EVERYTHING he shoots at!

@sofjanmustopoh7232

4 жыл бұрын

Timothy Yates The most MIND NUMBING job

@diversify210

3 жыл бұрын

Nice job hardly. I love shooting, but Id go bat shit if I had to sit in a boring ass little room and go through the same repetitive task on a daily basis.

@michaelcoley9360

9 ай бұрын

If you did it for a living then it would not be fun to shoot matches on the weekends anymore

THANK YOU!

Nice work on the video. I appreciate the time and effort to put this together. Very informative. Thank you. Is there any way to get a copy of the lot test sheets to see how each lot tested did, and to see the best lot that was found for the barreled action? Thanks again.

No temperature check on the barrel no cleaning between lots....... This is truly an amazingly complicated and probably expensive process for a rimfire rifle . There has never been a point in my life when money was no object. I thought I was being frivolous when I had 7-8 hundred dollars in a 10-22 these rifles are 7-8 thousand ???? You win ya out spent me 10-1......

@danielmastrangelo3778

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on your shooting disciplines. If you're a bench shooter, you need the absolute best ammo. For prs/nrl22 you can get away with 1moa @100 easily enough.

Needs a longer bit in that torque wrench.

BEST JOB IN THE WORLD!!!!!!👍

I cannot believe you did not show us the best groups that that that gun shot. That is how you build confidence in your product. (Or doubt) It would also be great if you would take a moment to tell us about the rifle that you have setting in front of you and show off a different 1 for each video so that we can learn what different configurations look like.

Wish I was offered to test more lots. Would have been more than happy to pay ofcourse, too. Now I'm stuck with my flyer lol.

Amazing.

Eley is good and Lithgow LA101 rifles are brill!

Damn wind causing flyers.

I’ll see ya in January

very, very cool

Seems amazing to me that Lot Variation within the Center-X product is so dramatic that it might take a dozen different lots to find the one that works in that rifle. Since we commonly buy ammo "off the shelf" from 5 - 8 different mfrs, and almost never have the chance to buy within a lot, it's clearly a very flawed process for most people with most guns... LOL

@marzcapone9939

4 жыл бұрын

TargetSportsUSA will send specif lots, if they have them in stock. I have bought 500 rounds of Center X from them, if I shot it faster, I may be concerned about lot numbers.

I can’t wait to be able to afford one of these one day.

@sofjanmustopoh7232

4 жыл бұрын

turbotona25 Hold your wallet The average Vudoo shoot around 0.8 moa at 100m Even in the tunnel at the testing facility You are paying $ 2500 for a vudoo A 399 Thompson Center Compass in 6.5 CM Would shoot 0.8 moa all day long 22LR weakness is the ammo You might see the creme de la creme Vudoo which would shoot 0.5 moa at 100m But right now A CZ457 MTR Tikka T1x Bergara 22LR Even Ruger precision rimfire with aftermarket Lilja barrel ( $400 for rifle and 450 for Lilja barrel ) Would suit you just fine Some the above might not have the sleekest trigger and action But at 1000 budget and 1500 in ammo money You would have lots of fun My TC compass in 6.5cm Shoot 0.7 to 1 moa 5 shots with Hornady 140 grain American hunter BTHP bulk pack Good luck and have fun

@joshuagibson2520

3 жыл бұрын

@@sofjanmustopoh7232 keen advice.

Neat.

Interesting

Interesting. We do same thing without the equipment and in the stock. Get 10 packets of different.22 ammo and off the bench see which one the rifle likes. Its interesting what ammo each rifle is more accurate with. I have match grade ammo at $20 a box and other 22 ammo and some rifles are more accurate... with $5

@corymallo581

4 жыл бұрын

My 338lm shoots better with S&B cheap ammo then it does with anything else.

@denisstanley6546

4 жыл бұрын

@@corymallo581 hi. Yes i have 22s that shoot very well wilh winner and other cheaper ammo. I use sk now because its just a little more accurate for match shooting . I stopped paying $20 a box for super match ammo as i am not as steady off hand as i was when i was 60. My european 22s need european ammo as they have tight chambers for 22s. Good shooting to you

@joshuagibson2520

3 жыл бұрын

You're very right. I've also seen 2 rifles built side by side but dont like the same ammo. Each barrel truly is unique.

When can you move to Australia?

Can ammo be shipped to Alaska...even if it has to go to an ffl first..?

3:14 that sounds insane.

Was that the best it could do?

How many rounds are in a lot?

Where do you get the Shipping box?

I wish I could bore-sight my rifle to a 100 meter bullseye on the first try! All kidding aside, it's motivating to trying this. Definitely need to save up and have funds to buy enough of whatever shoots best, although at today's prices I could probably buy a decent car with that much money.

@3of11

Жыл бұрын

it doesnt need to be aimed at an actual bullseye, the computer auto centers the simulated bullseye as you shoot

Can you send the entire rifle to be tested?

Does Vudoo gun werks work with CC 453 .22lr?

Do you have a dealer in Australia ?

Are you hiring?

As far as the performance of the ammo lot and rifle combo goes, which seems to be the more important factor? In other words, do you find specific ammo lots that seem to work best in most rifles (making the lot # the more important factor)? Or does the rifle being tested seem to be the more important factor and an ammo lot # that performed poorly in another rifle excels in the rifle being tested?

@juliusjames5577

3 жыл бұрын

Great question! Awaiting an answer.

What about barrel break- in, and how often do you clean it ?

@gamelord1000

3 жыл бұрын

IMO, barrel break in is a myth. Only clean when accuracy begins to fail.

@ozymandias9549

3 жыл бұрын

@@gamelord1000 It's not a "myth"... it just doesn't have the effect people seem to think it does. Barrel break in helps with longevity. A properly broke in barrel will go 30-40k rounds or more, but a non broke in barrel will only last 20-30k. Most people don't shoot enough for it to be important. But yes only clean it when accuracy begins to fail, that should be about 400-500 rounds at most. UNLESS you're going to not be shooting it again for a while, if you're not going to be shooting it for a while you want to clean it before storing it.

@gamelord1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@ozymandias9549 I agree, but longevity also depends on what caliber you are shooting and the quality of barrel. A .22 LR will last 100K rounds if you take care of it (and it is of good quality) were as a 6.5CM is usually only good for about 3-4k rounds even on a high quality barrel. Still, take care of your barrel and only clean when accuracy goes away or for long term storage and you're fine.

so you dont clean a new barrel

Are you hiring testers?

Who built how long is your tunnel?

@joshuagibson2520

3 жыл бұрын

If you know what fps the bullets are you could time the sound of impact and figure out.

Its lonely in Arizona, come and shoot with me. Lol.

@jlater2699

3 жыл бұрын

Mesa is basically a suburb of Phoenix, which has a population of over one-and-a-half million people. It ain't lonely.

Wouldn't it be useful to understand how your gun behaves cold?

@jlater2699

3 жыл бұрын

absolutely. it will warm up differently every time, but having an expectation of a cold group size is very useful

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Imagine all the fun you'd be missing out on by not having to shoot alll that ammo to do the same job. LOL just joking!

@denisstanley6546

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Sitting on my shooting bench trying to get tight groups with a 22 at 50 and 70 meters is good trigger time and practice for range match shooting. And cheaper than wearing out the barrels on my centerfires. I bought 5000 pistol rounds cheap and use them to warm up at 25 yards.

WOW and I thought the V22 was an accurate Rifle, The testing done on this Rifle makes me think twice on the V22 product. I wish they showed some 50 yard testing.

@sofjanmustopoh7232

4 жыл бұрын

It was not a great group and he said it too He has seen better and will continue testing Seeing other Lapua test report I agree with the tester Vudoo is on par with the Anschutz, lithgow etc But won’t match those custom built bench rest rifle that are individually tuned The extra step in accuracy between a $1000 rifle like bergara to $2400 rifle like vudoo is small Measured in 1/100 of an inch. For most people it is not worth the price BUT there is a market for it Vudoo rifle is selling

@accuracyfreaks442

4 жыл бұрын

I was just about to pull the trigger on one of these rifles, but after seeing some results it doesn't shoot any better then my kidd custom. Whew....dodged the flyer on that one. Lol

@marzcapone9939

4 жыл бұрын

@@accuracyfreaks442 Yeah, hard for me to shoot better than my KIDD Supergrade. It does like the Center X that I have shot in it.

@ronruddick

3 жыл бұрын

If you watch the video again you will notice the display is both 50 meters and 100 meters testing at the same time. The little groups on the left display are 50 yards, and the larger groups on the right display are 100 yards. I own several 22s, Bergara, Tikka, Anschutz, Walther, Kidd, and so on and have a V22 on order. All of the V22s I've shot or seen shot are more accurate.

That’s cool and all but I feel like it takes half the fun away.

Manufacturing is my background and plinking a hobby. Having watched countless "accuracy" posts (both ammo and arms) I have yet to see a double-blind ammo test or manufacturing specification (tolerances) that justify the $20 label over standard velocity fodder. Anyone?

@sofjanmustopoh7232

3 жыл бұрын

you dont need double blind. with these Lapua testing. that 10 lot# will tell you right away which lot can shoot in the 0.6s inches at 100 meter 10 shots. and worse lot # would shoot 1.25 inches. any of the cheap standard velocity can pull off small group once in a while but when you shoot enough of them you will see why those CCI SV while inexpensive 6 Cents and good enough . will never be as good as 11 cents a round Lapua Center X

@1Skeptik1

3 жыл бұрын

@@sofjanmustopoh7232 I'm listing and you may be correct. That said my challenge stands, I would even make a small wager you can't run (10) double-blind tests and score 100%. As I mentioned my background is in manufacturing and I have some marketing savvy. The human element is the wild card. I ran thousands of rounds in Bullseye competition and there are good days and bad. Give it a go, you will likely be surprised. I will be happy to have a slice of humble pie.

@georgejoy7660

Жыл бұрын

@@1Skeptik1 bit late but if the ammo didn't matter, why would all the Olympic teams go to the Lapua and Eley testing ranges to have their ammo matched to their rifles? If you're in "manufacturing" you should know there is a significant difference in what tolerances can be held on different machines. The best shooters in the world are shooting match ammo, matched to their rifle, not the cheap garbage off the shelf from Walmart.

08:20 ... that looks like a shotgun pattern board for crying out loud. Yikes.

Its kind of pointless testing without the stock.

FOOT POUNDS!!! THIS IS NOT A SCIENCE CLASS!

For a 2500 dollar rimfire rifle. Everything better work well in it. That's why I don't get into these high priced precision rifles. Hell I can by a 600 dollar rifle and find ammo it shoots sub-moa with. At 2500 bucks, I better be able to put the shittiest ammo I can find through the rifle and it ekes out sub-moa groups.