I understand your point, but the main benefit of VRR is to smooth out bad frame pacing in some games. So if bad frame pacing is causing this flickering, then it negates this benefit

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point, but what I'm showing is not bad frame time, it's atrocious performance caused by a technical issue, no game should be running like this

@zdp-189

11 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yeah problem w all lots of "standards" nowadays and technology all over place, is developers don't have time to perfect or get good with their programming like back in good ol tube TV 240 p days. Maybe the whole we can patch it after the fact age, so push out a broken, inefficient game to get money ASAP for publisher plays a role too. Xbox Series X Flight Sim flickering and stuttering (especially menu or cutscene as you said) at VRR or 120 Hz, PS5 Final Fantasy XVI atrocious flickering with VRR. It defeats the 1000s I spent on TCL R646 and Marantz SR6015 and all other devices people have issues with...so many issues nowadays, even though we should be getting better. I almost miss my high end plasma TV dvd and early blu ray days. Love your videos though, nice to see someone looking into things in an intelligent way.

@retrowrath9374

10 ай бұрын

@@zdp-189 Cut scenes are jarring anyway especially if they're 30fps, VRR won't change that because it's below the VRR range

@cemsengul16

9 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Sadly we can't get game developers to do their job proper and we have to invent technology to sort out their poor coding.

@bjornironsides6474

9 ай бұрын

I’m experiencing this on horizon forbidden west intermittently with vrr enabled. Seems to trigger after a cutscene or vendor screen. Since it’s on console, not sure what I can do to prevent it. Is it the game, the console, or the tv? Turning off vrr stops it,but not as smooth gameplay. Tv is Sony x90k. Changing local dimming and other settings had no effect, but turning vrr off did…I’d like to use it though. So nice until it flickers a little.

I noticed there's a very slight difference in black levels between 60 100 and 120hz, the vrr flicker is probably a result of the TV's hz fluctuating between the different black levels of the different hzes, that's why it goes away when it's not fluctuating. As for why afterburner causes performance to decrease is a mystery though

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

I'm going to do a video changing refresh rates with a near black test patterns to see if I can notice any difference

I have this with a LG C1 using g-sync on PC with Diablo 4 right now. It definitely happens almost exclusively on loading screens, in menus, and with the map open in game like you described. I've tried adjusting black levels through the TV's settings, lowering in-game graphics, etc. but can't get it stable.

@nurofenx75

10 ай бұрын

Same thing for me with my ASUS PG42UQ

@bjornironsides6474

9 ай бұрын

I see it now on ps5 with horizon FW running with vrr. Is this an issue more involved with game developers utilizing vrr correctly, or the hardware of tv or console/pc?

Keep posting! You gained a subscriber today

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Sure I will, appreciate you

Closing Afterburner does help with random flicker, thanks! But for example opening inventory in WoW still gives a flicker.

One other thing I noticed about VRR is that when I played Resident Evil 1, the FPS was even lesser than it was if I did 60 hz Dolby Vision. I guess while it enhances some games, hurts others?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

I don't see why VRR would reduce performance. Maybe a locked 60 was feeling smother than the game jumping from 85 to 60 all the time

@sonicshooter2

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I guess. All I know is that when I used Game mode on my tv, the frame quality was even worse than without it. I guess certain games can’t handle Game mode’s processing power.

I’m experiencing brightness flickering in games like Spider Man Miles Morales, Uncharted 4 and Resident Evil 4, where performance is no issue at all. It may be true that worse performing games are more likely to flicker, but I doubt it is the main cause. Miles Morales, for instance, runs flawlessly on performance rt mode on a PS5, but whenever I toggle 120hz mode, I start seeing brightness flickering especially when web-swinging through streets. It is not something that I can reproduce or point out exactly, but I’m sure it is there. It causes eyestrain, which is not the case when I play on 60hz mode. My TV is Sony X90J btw.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

11 ай бұрын

I have those games on the PC and there's no VRR flickering. If performance fluctuates you get flickering, if it's flawless you won't. RT performance is very bad even on my PC with a 3080 12GB, I never use it.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

11 ай бұрын

I'd play on the PS5 at a locked 60fps when possible with OLED Motion Pro high to get 158fps like motion clarity. That's much better than any 120fps mode

@niku3513

7 ай бұрын

I got same problem😢 found any solution? It's very annoying swinging spider man 2 and screen got that brightness flicker at the sky especially

i randomly started having this issue about 6 months ago and still have a problem i play on series x. ive noticed what feels like delay lag my aim is so bad now on apex and call of duty when i flick on someone its not accurate at all and my aim goes everywhere feels like my controller is slow and super sensitive at the same time like there is no aim assist. never had the issue until this past half year. i bought new controllers new console new monitor everything and same problem. idk what to do cant play any fps games and enjoy it just stutter lag constantly

@plasmatvforgaming9648

6 ай бұрын

Turn off VRR Freesync and change the console output to 120Hz

Keep up the good work.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Really enjoy your down to earth, humble, and honest videos. This is my favorite channel right now.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I really appreciate it 👍

You play more on oled,plasma tv or crt? In a separate video i ask you something,maybe you answer. Nice job!

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

OLED 99%

I've been using vrr ever since I first bought my 3080 earlier this year. It runs very well but I do get a flicker sometimes too. I haven't tried to fix it yet. Now that I think about it, I'm wondering if it has something to do with the local dimming.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Which display do you have?

@amangaming5760

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 hisense u8g

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Try to lock the FPS with RTSS even when using VRR, if the game drops below the target it doesn't matter and that's what VRR is good for

Hi happy to find a channel that raises the problem, I have an LG G2 and when I activate the high frequency mode in God of War Ragnarok I have the image that flickers, I am in 120hz VRR and when I deactivate the high frequency mode of god of war when I switch to 60hz vrr the image returns to normal I don't understand? I add that on my series x and I can play in VRR 120hz without any problem with image flickering, could this be a problem with the PS5? Thank you for your answers !

@plasmatvforgaming9648

2 ай бұрын

Maybe the 120 mode is fluctuating more while the 60 is more consistent

@Mck559

2 ай бұрын

​@@plasmatvforgaming9648I don't understand because on my series

I have a ps5 and the flickering in this game only happens when I'm in the pause menu or the main game menu. It's not constant like something psychedelic but it happens every 10 seconds for example with a little flash and not in the whole screen. During gameplay I have no problem. For this to stop happening, I have to turn off vrr in the game menu. The last of us part 1 suffered from something even worse as the flickering was permanent if you played with vrr active in the game menu.

I experience green and white flickering often on my Xbox Series X with vrr on. I think it's the console. Perhaps some bad soldering on the first models, but no company would admit to that. Luckily a cold reset tends to fix it.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Try a different input, if it also happens, try a different cable, if it still happens try to change the Xbox output to 60Hz

@PenPineappleApplePen007

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yeah, I'll try that. It didn't happen on 60hz, but it's a 120hz console, so it's a shame.

@bjornironsides6474

9 ай бұрын

Same, I might try 60hz output on ps5. Noticed some flickering in games that run 60fps and cutscenes are less fps. Hmm if things weren’t so dang rushed all the time, we might get a product that works out of the box!

Not sure how that game works and how many things you can change with that game on the PC. But on World of Warcraft the frame drops to 15 frames per second on loading screens. Howver, because the game is on the PC, there's a command that players can use to increase the FPS on loading screens. I changed mine to 60 FPS, and even the loading bar is now smooth, lol. So, some games you might be able to change the loading screen FPS cap, because most games reduce FPS on loading screens and are capped in someway. If there's a config folder for the game, you might be able to change loading screen frame rate like in World of Warcraft.

Sadly it seems panel lottery is also a factor. I thought they would flicker all the same, but my 77C2 shows substantial more VRR-flickering than my 48C1, Sony 55A80J and 65C9. I'm about to contact LG, because it's so annoying. That was never an issue on my other TVs. I'm playing on PC where this is more of a problem, because console games tend to have a more stable performance in terms of steady frametimes than on PC.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the size difference makes it more noticeable

@hideff4982

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Nope. I have tested it many times. That's definitely not a reason of panel size.

@bjornironsides6474

9 ай бұрын

Any news on this? My first time playing a vrr title, HFW on ps5 on Sony X90K. It seems to lightly flicker after some gameplay or cutscene. Stops if I turn tv vrr off and back on, but comes back after a few minutes.

Nice video. But I do not really know if I understand tbh imho... For example, did you see the problems with the Flickering on the Alienware QD OLED? It has to do with some unsupported vrr on windows I heard, you deactivated the GSync to not have Flickering anymore dude??

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

I have Vsync ON on the Nvidia control panel and off on the games

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

I've never tried the Alienware qdoled

@yeshuayahushua4338

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I have commented to your comment that you should go deep with the Alienware QD OLED after u puchase it, did you delete my comment? Why?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

If you post links or violate KZread guidelines KZread will delete the comment, I didn't do it

So I just bought a OLED c3 48 inch and I noticed that flickering not as bad but just during loading screens and at points of having my dashboard on also. is it normal for these tv to do that?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

6 ай бұрын

Yes, it's normal. It won't happen when the FPS is stable

I have this VRR flicker on my new C2 OLED, but I don't get it at all on my old 2020 CX OLED in the same games and same settings and same frametimes. So yeah, it definitely is a technical issue with the newer LG OLED models and needs to be fixed on the C1, C2 and possibly C3. One shouldn't make excuses for LG messing up. These TVs cost a lot of money.

@bjornironsides6474

9 ай бұрын

I don’t think Sony is immune to this either. I’m seeing it now on x series. Vrr is new to offer on tvs now, maybe they don’t have it right yet?

i have the 45" LG OLED monitor and i have this flickering on 3080ti with eery single driver higher than 528.24, so tell me how this is a MSI AB issue, if i can replicate this just by upgrading the GPU driver? :O

@plasmatvforgaming9648

10 ай бұрын

Do you see a perfectly flat Frame time graph of do you see spikes? VRR flickering only happens with unstable performance. That's what I'm showing in this video. If the GPU drivers are causing unstable performance, VRR flickering is the least of the problems. You couldn't even turn it off and lock the FPS for a good experience

That's right, brother, 1 wanted to know that I have this image flickering problem in Miles Morales, Spiderman, Remastered, and Uncharted 4 games that support VR, but when I turn off VRR, the flickering disappears. I just wanted to know that there is no problem with my console ps 5 and is this a normal thing because the fps is variable?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

9 ай бұрын

Try the 60fps no RT mode. Those games, especially Spiderman, are supposed to run like a dream on the PS5, and you shouldn't see VRR flickering during gameplay

@mohammadshahsavari2434

9 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yes that’s right thank you for your support❤

i don't understand, it's not MSI AB the issue but the Hz fluctuation, if you disable VRR and you still get fps, no more flickering. But not sure if you lock to for example 40 fps, you still get flickering due to LFC kick-in.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

I just used this bug to show the issue, if I turn off VRR there's no flickering but the performance would be stuttering.

@ppn7

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ok i understand now ! By the way, i hope you will cover a new video on the new update of TW3 HDR settings ! Thanks

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

I will, I'm making some space to download it right now but based on the Gaming Tech video the settings are Tone mapping OFF Mastering Peak MaxCLL 2000

In gaming vrr flicker is never an issue, But I always have to turn off VRR for dark movies. OLED VRR doesnt seem to like 24 frames content

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Are you changing the Resolution to 4k 24Hz on the PC?

@SevyTheGod

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 no, its takes more time than just turning off gsync on my system

The flicker is only a problem in games that have bad stutter, so in a way it is the game developers’ fault.

(DCS) & (StarField) is doing this to me on my LG monitor. Sometimes it does it and sometimes it don’t. But I have a 4080 paired with a 12th Gen i5 12400. I’m waiting on my i7 13700K to come in. I hate when it flickers like that lol but thank you so much and I appreciate you.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

8 ай бұрын

Try to lock the FPS with Riva Turner Statistic Server

Haven’t encountered this flickering issue with VRR set on the A80J yet. Also I find that when hitting below 60fps, 48-59 is the sweet spot for low frame VRR for responsiveness and visual consistency.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

I would like to test that TV's motion clarity settings (BFI and interpolation). Let me know if you have experience with that

So you said that this getting on and off of the image(flickering) in vrr ps5 mode is normal and we can get 120 Hz output with it without any problem and this is a normal thing?

@mohammadshahsavari2434

9 ай бұрын

i have flickering display on vrr mode even on game vrr support only on vrr mode this is normal? or console issues

@plasmatvforgaming9648

9 ай бұрын

It's a consequence of unstable performance of the specific game, nothing to do with the consoles or PC. The difference is that on the PC, we might be able to adjust the graphics and lock the FPS at the driver level to improve stability and prevent VRR flickering. On my PC, it's never visible during gameplay because I make sure that the games frametime is as good as possible. Otherwise, I don't play the specific game

@Tripokaridos22

Ай бұрын

It's Normal on OLED . OLED have stutter have Flicker have Glossy panels and reflections have ABL and low brightness,have Burn In , Have shadow Crash and many more ... The biggest problem is when a pixel goes from on state to off ... All Oled have Near gray flicker.

So there is absolutely no way to stop the flickering on 4K 120 hz? It’s set in stone until Microsoft and Sony can find a workaround for their consoles?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

The problem is the games performance

@sonicshooter2

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 and that’s how they get you. That flickering is not good for my OCD so I guess I’ll do 4K 60 hz in Dolby Vision, even if there is a little blurring in dark scenes. I wish I had known about this before I got a Sony tv designed for 120 hz gaming.

Freesync premium pro does not have flicker. I never had tearing or flicker issue on my M32U. Now I have LG C3 AND GSYNC flickers and freesync not. Same experience. What gsync does better ?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Ай бұрын

Interesting. I've never tried Freesync on the C1

To reduce Frametime Spikes, you should Limit the FPS to the Point your GPU can handle the FPS on a stable value. I had flickering on my AW3423dwf with Afterburner on or off, maybe you should update afterburner. The flicker can be eliminated with a nvidia gpu + gsync ultimate monitor OR use CRU Tool to reduce VRR Range to 100-165 instead of 38-165. It WILL reduce or eliminate flicker.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. This example is a weird issue. I only see this flickering on loading screens

ty :)

On ps5 with Devil may cry 5 you have fps fluctuating from 100 to 40…and with vrr on you get a lot of flickering in certain areas

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

That's a great example to showcase

@typogram1274

Жыл бұрын

If you switch to performance mode vrr you get a more stable framerate and the flickering is gone. So I guess the flickering is caused by the fps fluctuations going below the vrr Sony range.

flicker was a huge issue for me on my LG C2. I ended up returning it. Half my screen turned red. 5 certified hdmi 2.1 cables tested.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

That seems like a bad sample. It shouldn't be happening. Try again with a different one

@TheManCaveMike

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I did, I spent the day going back and forth to bestbuy. 3 damn LGs, the 3rd one they tested in store with a rtx 4090 because the manager blamed my gpu. They had the same issue too. Manager ended up giving me a $100 giftcard for my time and troubles. I went with a nasty ips instead. M28u. The LG looks light years better but the flicker was horrendous. kzread.infoQeQ4jVyNBHg & kzread.infoEf0GN4h-6ms that was the 1st one. Didnt bother recording, just returned them, 2 and 3 were far worse. Bad luck for me. The picture was amazing, but I am not doing the flicker on flicker off thing

@TheManCaveMike

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 1 is a bad sample. 2 is a pattern. 3 is a issue. The M28u doesnt look nearly as good in colors but no flickering. My LG was the LG c2 42 evo OLED. Not sure if that matters, the size, maybe they didnt fix for those yet?

Hey my man, great video and great points. But let's say you don't have MSI running on the background and still get that minor flicker during loading screens. My current LG C3 connected to a 4080 via HDMI with high quality 2.1 cables always flickers during loading screens, specifically noticeable when it's a grey or dark loading screen. I've even tried other cables and even connected the TV to my gaming laptop... same results. Once the game starts there is no issues. All Gsync stuff is enabled, TV settings are setup properly, in game options setup properly. The forums all say it's VRR gamma flicker and welcome to OLED technology. So what's the deal? If this many people have the issue how is it that LG and Nvidia are not aware of this or rolling out some sort of fix? The new LG C4/G4 will be coming out soon and they are rated to 144hz. I can only imagine the boost in refresh rate causing even more issues. What other suggestions would you have for settings. And no disabling Gsync VRR is not an option, lol. Keep up the nice work on the channel.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

2 ай бұрын

Loading screens usually have big FPS fluctuations that cause VRR flickering, but as you said, it's not a problem during stable fps gameplay

Bro can you please help is something wrong with my c3? When I play The Last Of Us Part 1 on PS5 I can see the screen flashing every 10 seconds only in dark areas. But when I turn VRR off and on it goes away but it comes back after few minutes in game. I would really appreciate if you can tell me if it’s normal or not

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Ай бұрын

Try a different HDMI port and cable if possible. Disable ALLM

I would never get a monitor with this issue. I game since so many years and a ton of games have frame issues. Sure, if the game is coded well, this wouldn't be an issue, but we see in 2023 that a lot of games are NOT coded well. If you can't keep that 120 fps you'll suffer or have to set the FPS cap lower (I think It's below 100 fps where it doesn't flicker iirc)

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

The problem happens only with stuttering and other huge fps fluctuations. I never suffer that problem. If the game is stuttering, it is garbage anyway, I wouldn't play it

does VRR flickering also happen on VA panels, and what can i do to prevent it?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

3 күн бұрын

I believe so. Use RTSS to lock the FPS and make sure the performance is consistent

If you can get a lock 60 or 120 it’s best just to keep vrr off correct ?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@tuhhh8708

9 ай бұрын

Not true.. without vrr the output on your screen only shows 60 or 120 hz but it’s not the real FPS , so Better to always leave vrr on because that’s the real output

And WHY they make G-Sync vrr range 40-120hz IF flickering appear when hz fluctuating around 40?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Flickering will appear with unstable performance at any fps. A stable 40 wouldn't Flicker

@Tripokaridos22

Ай бұрын

VRR flicker is different than OLED strobe light , this gray area flickering is OLED strobing and has nothing to do with VRR. It's the Oled tech . Thes happens mostly on Gray patterns. Oleds don't like frame variation and Near gray colour's because pixel state going from perfect black to near gray it's like on off million times that is one.problem also PWM on OLED works different... Long story there is a fix but u lose the perfect blacks...

Thanks I turned off vrr and it does not flicker also how do you check the framrate

@plasmatvforgaming9648

2 ай бұрын

I'm using Riva Turner Statistics Server along with MSI Afterburner

I got gsync flicker on my new 55 inch G3.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

9 ай бұрын

It's the game performance, not the TV. If the frame time is a solid line, it won't happen.

@cemsengul16

9 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yeah. I have no issues with vrr using my PS5 on the G3. I was probably doing something stupid. I hooked up my 2021 Razer Blade laptop with 3080 16 gb to my 55 inch G3 and enabled Gsync. I had the laptop lid closed so it ouputs exclusively to the tv in Gsync. I then tried to play Modern Warfare 2 online with an Xbox controller. I set the settings so low and it still strobed and flickered.

This happens in spider man remastered on ps5 when I turned on VRR and 120hz fps mode. So how to fix this on the ps5? My tv is a TCL Q7. I see fps is going between 120 and 75 etc. But when I playing the game it doesn’t happen. Maybe I don’t notice it. It happens Only while in menus. Is it a problem with the tv?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Күн бұрын

I don't know, I don't have a PS5 to test it. But I guess go with the 60 unlocked mode

Pour ne pas avoir de scintillement le 1% low fps doit être le plus proche du max fps autrement le yoyo sera trop grand et l’ecran scintille sur le oled et c’est que votre jeux est mal régler.

Holy smokes 👀 thanks so much thats exactly what i was talking about. You hit this on the head. Thanks for explaining it to me. I appreciate 🤝🏼you.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Man, i have this flickering while watching some scenes of youtube videos. I miss old 60hz non-gaming monitor which didn't have this strange tech, even games with bad frametime didn't flicker on it

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Ай бұрын

That's weird. I'd turn VRR off for videos, though

@nitrosodium

Ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 For videos? I just turned VRR off in Settings, Display, Graphics, advanced something - idk if you mean this

Okay then why is this an issue that is only present on oled screens. There is no g-sync flicker ever anywhere on normal ips monitors regardless of the games performance. I used a 200$ budget ips panel 24" 1440p 165Hz and also another 27" 1440p 165Hz ips panel in the past with G-Sync enabled and i never had any flicker in any game ever regardless of performance. But with my new oled monitor there is a lot of flicker especially in game menus. And that is an issue on all oled monitors. Can you explain that ? That is definitely an issue of the undeerlying oled panel technology and has nothing to do with the games performance. Also that is exactly what vrr is made for. provide a smooth gaming experience when the fps is fluctuating a lot.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

2 ай бұрын

I say it's not an issue because we can't play with the kind of unstable performance that will trigger this anyway. If it never happens on LCDs, that's interesting.

@jumperdynamix8808

2 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I dont understand what you mean. VRR flicker is not even an issue anywhere except on oled screens. And even LG themselves confirmed that this is an issue of the underlying oled panel technology. The performance doesnt matter since fps fluctuations will happen regardless of the performance optimizations of a game being good or bad. And this is what vrr is made for - provide a smooth experience when fps fluctuates a lot and is not stable.

It’s because the TVs vrr is on and your Playstions vrr is on at the same time I had the same issue with my series x. I turned off the series x vrr off and kept my TVs vrr on and it stopped flickering

@plasmatvforgaming9648

3 ай бұрын

That is because it isn't working

O problema é que praticamente todos os jogos de pc gaguejam, o que vai tornar o VRR inutilizável caso não resolvam esse problema de cintilação

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Stuttering is definitely a problem

@RenatoCGomes-yw7tp

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Exato, mas o vrr deveria se adaptar melhor sobre isso

Hello. Please tell me, I have a Sony xr65x93j TV, with settings for xbox series x: 4k, 120hz, VRR - on; The screen flickers during the game, what is the problem with the TV? in the console? or in VRR? And please tell me what to leave at 120hz without VRR or 60hz with VRR enabled? Thanks a lot in advance

@plasmatvforgaming9648

7 ай бұрын

Isn't the console or TV, it's the game performance. Try 60Hz output VRR, it might be more stable.

@user-3zx739

7 ай бұрын

Is it possible to know in advance before purchasing a game that it will flicker when VRR 120HZ is turned on?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

7 ай бұрын

Watch the frametime graph on a Gaming Tech or Digital Foundry video. It has to be flat

@user-3zx739

7 ай бұрын

Please help me understand why at 120hz VRR is on there is flickering, but at 60hz there is almost no flickering (game 120fps) Does this flickering depend on the FPS in the game? For example, in fortnite 120 fps and flickering is present. Help me understand please, I can’t sleep))))

@user-3zx739

7 ай бұрын

Did I understand correctly if the fps in the game is in the range from 40 - 120hz then the screen will not flicker? For example, Lies of p seems to have a stable 60 fps, but it flickers a lot at the xbox series x 120hz settings. How does it work? Help me understand

My framrate is stable with vrr off because 99.5 percent of Xbox games don’t use vrr

You have any tricks to reduce bfi flicker on 60 hz on consoles? It seems it’s only the white areas do you notice it, thanks!

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Yes, use Tone mapping OFF and Mastering Peak MaxCLL 10000.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

For what use the 1113111 HDMI signaling override menu

@beammeupscottsp7952

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 not sure what mastering peak setting max cell, can’t find that?

@beammeupscottsp7952

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 oh I see, so mastering peak and maxcll use 10000?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Yes, use tone mapping OFF

I'm replaying RE2 right now on my LG C1 with RTX 3080 and it starts flickering even when my fps drop from 120 to 110 and stays hovering at around 115 for example, with VRR on, settings are all on max with HDR and ray tracing. It's only in a few areas though. It doesn't even need to dip very low, even if its just a few frames below 120 it will flicker, i notice it very well in very dark hallways in the game. I can only completely eliminate it by setting fps to 60 for example, my 3080 never drops below that, but obviously i'm not going to do that with a 120hz tv and an expensive GPU. It's weird because for example in RE village, my frames go all over the place between 80 and 120 and i get no flicker whatsoever while playing that game, it ONLY flickers 1 time just when the game loads up, and that's it.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Maybe there are some fluctuations that are not being shown by Afterburner, a drop of 10fps shouldn't flicker

@AlienGenotype

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I never use afterburner. I think some games have worse issues than others.

@imT1tan-lr8mg

Жыл бұрын

it because the game have stuttering issue, like streaming or loading issue, in split second the fps go down out of range of VRR. This not happen if the game very well optimized even your fps is low because of demanding scene.

@imT1tan-lr8mg

Жыл бұрын

what you see is average fps, 120 to 110, but when sttutering fps go down to even far lower, 0,1% or 1% low is the key of this flickering issue

@imT1tan-lr8mg

Жыл бұрын

this is why we rarely see this on console with VRR, because their games are very well optimized.

bro i have same problem in ps5 god of war Ragnarok when i play in 4k vrr .. if i play performance vrr nothing problem!

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Maybe at 4k it's dropping frames

Does Fast Sync solve the issue?

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Ай бұрын

No

@AngryPenguin22

Ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thank you!

Well it's up to your hardware to keep the frame rate in-between the VRR range, loading screens won't stay in that range.

Haha, it was not flickering (visible) with high stable frame rate like that 119fps after you close msi, but with vrr working scenario it was flickering. And maybe that is becouse the display has a low dip in brightness wich is the same times as Refresh rate of Display (acording to rtings flickerfree or not test) in such variable refresh rate it would be lower and higher so, variable and maybe thats way maybe visible.

Why does it not happen with IPS panels, then?

@Tripokaridos22

Ай бұрын

Because IPS pixels are always ON... On OLED panels don't, also there is NO flicker free OLED monitor ... U can see Ratings measurements. There some technics that make Oled panels feel.like.they can be flicker free but its impossible. U can't have everything. IPS.have gray blacks and are flicker free with amazing coatings and OLED are fast very fast with perfect blacks great colour's great angles but Glossy stupid Reflective panels , Blacks that are purple when u open light , shadow crash, ABL when u go over 300 nits , High heat panels , and many many more problems... But they look great at full darkness. U can't have it all. Perfect solutio would be Micro leds millions of them with very very powerful hardware to manage blooming. But this is 5 to 8 years ahead. Just wait after 2-3 years all Oled will be sold for 200 euros. Even if they don't suffer Burn in , All Oled lose Brightness.

@inceptionsd

Ай бұрын

@@Tripokaridos22 Not exactly. IPS is an LCD panel which uses liquid crystals to pass the light through. They are not always on, but they can't block 100% of backlight when they are off... VA panels are also LCD and they work the exact same way as IPS. Only difference being better light blockage when the pixels are off, yet they have worse VRR flicker than OLEDs. Thats strange, too.

@Tripokaridos22

Ай бұрын

@@inceptionsd IPS do use liquid crystals but also use backlight or edge light and to my knowledge backlight is always on , the intensity does change but never goes fully off unless there are zones of backlight. U can test it your self use minimum brightness and black background... The backlight is always on at IPS VA panels. That's known and that's why the use Backlight Zones ... And that's why Monitors with Many zones over 56 or some of them have 1000 zones... Didn't sell a lot because of blooming and flickering problems... On PC monitors with backlight zones the brightness was going from off to On in a way that was terrible seeing bloom and flickering strobe effect. And that's normal. There will be Always strobe effect when a pixel or backlight is going from fully turn off to fully turn on. That's why Panels IPS or VA with no backlight zones have better VRR and no strobe or flickering...

@inceptionsd

Ай бұрын

@@Tripokaridos22 "Because IPS pixels are always ON". These are your words, are they not? It is not my intention to argue at all, but you have to realize and accept the fact that you made a mistake... Pixels are one thing. Backlight is a totally different thing. An LCD panel consists of a backlight, light diffusor and a TFT LCD matrix sandwitched between the two polarizer films, where one of them is rotated and passes the light at 90 degrees. When voltage is applied through an lcd layer, liquid crystals rotate exactly by 90 degrees, which negates the rotated polarizer film and passes the light through it. When the subpixel is off, liquid crystals rotate back to 0 degrees. All that you said in the previous comment is true, apart the fact that lcd pixels dont turn off completely. They do, in fact. Its just that some light bleeds through them.

It’s happening in game for me. Ps5 Last of us part 1 remake it’s pretty bad. Then with another game man of Medan on ps5 it doesn’t flicker but with Xbox series x it flickers.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

7 ай бұрын

Try to change the Xbox output to 60Hz instead of 120 to use VRR, which could give you more stable performance

@88kammojo

7 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 10-4 I might try that. You think it’s game related and not the consoles? The developers of these games rushes most of these games out.

@plasmatvforgaming9648

7 ай бұрын

It's game performance related, developers fault

@88kammojo

7 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 so I assume I just leave vrr off until their is a fix because I don’t really need it right?

@88kammojo

7 ай бұрын

since I have a capable tv that supports 120hz@@plasmatvforgaming9648

How to you stop the fps flickering on tv

@plasmatvforgaming9648

2 ай бұрын

Turn off VRR or make sure the FPS is stable

@MasterJulz16798

2 ай бұрын

How do you see if the fps is stable

damn i just bought a lg g3..and i like my plasmas picture more :/ i wish it didnt buzz

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Ай бұрын

Plasmas have a special look and some advantages, but with the right content, the G3 is far superior

OLED no blacks with open lights, Bad Reflections, No VRR , Stutter, Shadow Crash,ABL, Small Full screen Brightness, and not even consider the Burn in... 😂 OLED needs many yearsto fix these

I have this issue on TCL C745 55 inch any one have a solution? I game on rtc 4060 8gb

@plasmatvforgaming9648

5 ай бұрын

Lock the FPS with RTSS and make sure the performance is consistent. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6OVvMF-o9bIZZs.html

@plasmatvforgaming9648

5 ай бұрын

I noticed your guitar logo

@mazinalmaimani7291

5 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks man appreciate it , i will give it a shot 🥲🙋🏻

@mazinalmaimani7291

5 ай бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 its a long time ago 😬

I would particularly like you to have a PS5, it's a great console and you can only buy the exclusives on day one like God of War Ragnarok for example, games that have on other platforms you buy for PC normally as you always do... It would be an investment for the channel and for yourself too, because the exclusives are EXCELLENT for the most part as you can see playing Uncharted 4, and also because you would leave the PC niche since most people have consoles. 🙃

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you

@igorcosta9515

Жыл бұрын

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I know I'm still going to see you making a video opening PS5 and I'm going to be genuinely happy, my friend. 👊🏻😁

no you can't see the flicker because that is something else.

That’s normal too? Because i having this. By the way you know other game apart uncharted (one that be in gamepass where i can check the flickering that you show?) This video shows other porblem that i saw kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKiBy8arYsyth7w.html

@plasmatvforgaming9648

Жыл бұрын

The reason uncharted is flickering is due to a bug with afterburner

Holy cope.