Vos Group #89 - The Various Aspects of Christ's Revealing Function
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In chapter five of Geerhardus Vos’ Biblical Theology (p. 343ff), the focus is on the various aspects of Jesus’ revelation during his public ministry. Vos argues that the revelation mediated by Jesus is often mistakenly confined to his earthly life, ignoring his pre-existence and post-existence, both of which are integral to the comprehensive scheme of divine revelation.
Vos outlines that Jesus’ earthly revelation functioned within a specific framework, implying limitations that did not exist in his pre-existent and post-existent states. These limitations were not due to any inadequacy in Jesus’ knowledge or power but were part of a divine scheme that required a progressive unfolding of revelation. Vos emphasizes that Jesus did not intend to reveal the entire volume of divine truth during his earthly ministry but functioned as a pivotal link within the continuum of revelation that includes both the Old and New Testaments.
00:00:07 Introduction
00:04:31 The Revelation of Jesus
00:20:57 The Generation of the Son
00:32:51 The Son as a Divine Person
00:44:07 Jesus' Post-Existence
00:48:25 The Progressive Covenantal Character of Christ's Ministry
00:55:24 Beyond the Incarnation
01:01:34 Kenosis
01:08:20 Conclusion
This is Christ the Center episode 858 (www.reformedforum.org/ctc858)
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I read Biblical Theology but i am amazed how much you guys bring out of it. Keep it up!
Interesting that John's gospel begins not at the incarnation but in the beginning. This podcast is actually helpful for a richer reading of John.
Good stuff! Thank you, brothers!
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25:39 I might miss something here, but didn't Calvin also describe the Father as the 'beginning and fountainhead of the whole of divinity'? Institutes 1.13.26
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Here is Calvin's own clarification on that matter, as Warfield cites a letter he wrote in May of 1543 on the topic: “This,” he here declares, “is the state of the controversy (status controversiae): Whether it may be truly predicated of Christ, that He is, as He is God, a se ipso? This Capunculus denies. Why? Because the name of Christ designates the Second Person in the Godhead, who stands in relation to the Father. I confess that if respect be had to the Person, we ought not so to speak. But I say we are not speaking of the Person but of the essence. I hold that the Holy Spirit is the real (idoneum = proper) author of this manner of speaking, since He refers to Christ all the declarations in which autotheos is predicated of God, as in other passages, so in the first chapter of the Epistle to the Hebrews.… He [Capunculus] contends that Christ, because He is of the substance of the Father, is not a se ipso, since He has a principium from another. This I allow to him of the Person. What more does he want?… I confess that the Son of God is of the Father. Accordingly, since the Person has a cause (ratio), I confess that He is not a se ipso. But when we are speaking, apart from consideration of the Person, of His divinity or simply of the essence, which is the same thing, I say that it is rightly predicated of Him that He is a se ipso. For who, heretofore, has denied that under the name of Jehovah, there is included the declaration of autotheos.” Benjamin B. Warfield, The Works of Benjamin B. Warfield: Calvin and Calvinism, vol. 5, 238-239. And then he cites Calvin yet again: “I assert both truths-both that Christ is of the Father as He is the second Person, and that He is of Himself (a se ipso) if we have respect to the Divine essence simpliciter”-a declaration which he supports from the Fathers, particularly Augustine, thus: “Similarly Augustine (Sermo 38 ‘de tempore’): ‘Those names which signify the’ substance … or essence of God, or whatever God is said to be in Himself (ad se), belong equally to all the Persons. There is not, therefore, any name of nature which can so belong to the Father that it may not belong also to the Son, or Holy Spirit.’ Benjamin B. Warfield, The Works of Benjamin B. Warfield: Calvin and Calvinism, vol. 5, 240.