Totally random video recommendation was very interesting for once

@artemrega443

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely 👌

The holdback these devices give are truly mind-blowing,holding back a full 40ton payload on a 12% grade with no need to use the foot brake.

So it's a hydraulic brake that works via the drive line using fluid dynamics to directly slow the truck. Kinda like at torque converter but in reverse. That is pretty cool.

wow i must have, like, at least 3 of these installed in me

@skyline3071

4 жыл бұрын

This one can hold up to 60 ton. Mate

@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI

3 жыл бұрын

@@skyline3071 you're really that dumb, huh?

@Joe_kickass25

3 жыл бұрын

@@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI I think he might be 😂

@amryms

3 жыл бұрын

@@skyline3071 maybe you have 4 attached sorry XD

@skyline3071

3 жыл бұрын

@@amryms i am dam serious we have 680v8 on b double.

This video was from 10 years ago, but still the best quality graphics and animations.

@stollvongati

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! But we can do it better now ;)

A narrator voice is so pleasant. I can listen him for hours.

@gafrers

3 жыл бұрын

Same voice actor as Porsche's videos on the official channel

Had a retarter in a 2003 Peterbilt 550 cat 18 speed and jake hauling heavy oilfield equipment and it worked great. You would be surprised how much braking power it has. 80,000kms and my brake drums were still black. Only time used any brake was to park. ps. It was a option when I bought the truck and it was $8900. Extra .

@CuthbertNibbles

3 жыл бұрын

How much do you think it has saved you in operating costs over the years (brake pad replacement, downtime, etc)?

@Sinister_Reaper

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think they make it for eaton, as far as i know voith is european only

I've learned a lot from your videos. I'm looking forward to more wonderful videos.

@stollvongati

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words. Have you subscribed our channel?

@DamirAsanov

3 жыл бұрын

@@stollvongati He is taking notes. Expect cheap Chinese made retarders soon.

@stollvongati

3 жыл бұрын

@@DamirAsanov we are producing these films for our client Voith so I'm sure the experts ensured that there is nothing to see what everbody is allowed to see ;)

Many trucks here in New Zealand use Voith Retarders in conjunction with Engine Brakes. Jacobs Brakes on a Cummins provides about 300hp of retarding. A Voith provides up to 800hp of retarding. Using both together means you can descend a steep hill fully loaded without cooking your brakes and therefore able to make a safe stop at any time. Voith Retarders work really well, are super reliable, make for quicker average speeds, shorter trip times, extend brake parts life, and crucially, much safer truck operation. They are expensive and add to tare weight, but if you have hilly terrain and or high gross weights they are worth it.

Had no idea this existed or what it was. Pretty cool. Also was explained really nice

the music is from the Wargame series :D Ahhh, I fondly remember 10v10 in Red Dragon

@adrianm6006

3 жыл бұрын

10v10 STTP. Recognized it instantly, took me a minute to remember exactly where from

@ThePiquedPigeon

3 жыл бұрын

Also from Emergency 3

@domingodeejayable

3 жыл бұрын

oh i have the same recollection but from a game called this war of mine.

Un sistema che si è evoluto in 30 anni diventando un unita molto compatta,ricordo i primissimi modelli grandi come un cambio😀👋

Sistema fantástico, eu trabalhei na construção de uma hidrelétrica chamada UHE - Jirau no Brasil num Mercedes Bens 4144 que tinha o retarder, show de bola!

Had one on and R620 Scania V8. The breaking power really in impressive. Plus they make a nice sound when they operate

@coloradostrong

3 жыл бұрын

"Break": to cease from work or, no longer in one piece, many pieces. "Brake": generally a mechanical device used to slow or stop another device. Teach yourself homonyms and homophones.

@usapower6208

Жыл бұрын

​@@coloradostrong How do you know what he meant when he said "breaking power" that you decided to teach him?

Herzlichen Glückwunsch sehr gut

@stollvongati

3 жыл бұрын

Vielen Dank :)

thanks you very much, i could not undertand it before but now is so easy, like

@stollvongati

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that's our goal - make complicate thinks understandable

Hasta hoy en día es el mejor sistema de frenado en un scania . No produce contaminación Sonora.

The beauty of engineering

Amazing animation and very informative.

@stollvongati

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Even it's very old it's still helpful to understand how a Voith Retarder is working

A backwards torque converter.

@jerrybear3081

3 жыл бұрын

torque diverter

Great video. ☺️

Perfect explication thx

great video

خيال احسنتم الصنع

That engine is an FPT (Iveco) Cursor engine. Not sure why we don't have those in trucks in North America. They seem to be a very reliable engine in agriculture and construction equipment.

@sponny6551

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, in agriculture and construction equipment. Mostly slow moving vehicles which are going very slowly while operating. IVECO engines in trucks or buses are crap. Because these vehicles are moving pretty fast compared to f.e. tractors, the engine wear is bigger, and in my City, 12 buses with IVECO engines burned, because of engine failure caused by wrong facturing procedures. Be happy that you don't have them.

Thank you

Excelente explicación

I like the part about the things and stuff.

Used to work on these, good bits of kit.

cool 😎

Una de las mejores maneras de notar un frenado en video es usando un nivel de burbuja o un recipiente plano transparente, con una determinada cantidad de agua.

Ah, Europe... Always 30 years ahead of us here in the United States... I've honestly never heard of one of these systems in a truck or train here in the United States... Someone tell me if I'm wrong.

Вещь! 👍

이거 만든사람 천재인듯. 저기 들어가는 오일이 궁금하네요

In addition to efficiently slowing down trucks and heavy equipment, it’s also good for dropping on people’s heads.

amazing

شكرا على المعلومة المفيدة

Ausgezeichnet 💪💪💪💪💪💪👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

"driving comfort" On our Wright Streetlites it's so harsh it throws drivers and passengers off their seats!!

I want one and I don't even own a semi truck. I'd just leave it out on my coffee table as a conversation piece. "That? Oh, yeah that's a Voith VR 115 CT retarder unit. I thought everybody knew that."

@bradleythebuilder8743

3 жыл бұрын

I thought this was going to be their version of the turbo encabulator

Awesome

SUPER ANIMACIA

👌👌👌

The only issue I see the oil converter fan is always moving with the truck, what happens if that oil converter fails? Does it freewheel, lock up, or blow up and make a mess if it fails?

@csgperformance

5 жыл бұрын

System interrupts oil passage no brake applied

@juanurrego807

4 жыл бұрын

No intarder brake that's

Keine Ahnung warum ich das vorgeschlagen bekommen habe aber holy car porn batman das sieht super aus!

Niceeeee pope like voith

What? No MOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBO! No American will buy this.

@huntsbychainsaw5986

4 жыл бұрын

I've always found is more like a HUGHHHH! BWAHBWAHBWAHBWAHBWAHBWAH! HUGH-EH! BWAAAAAH, BWAH,BWAHBWAHBWAHBWAH!

@nkjeetun3877

4 жыл бұрын

we dont mind

@antonman1234

4 жыл бұрын

There is the jake brake

How long before we have to rename this too?

So, that's a fancy, oil-driven pinion brake?

@listerdave1240

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and it's advantage is that it doesn't have any shoes or pads that wear down and will never overheat either as it is cooled by the truck's radiator.

hi. realy helpful and thank you very much for the video. which software did you use to create this animation. i need to create an educational video for children to promote disability awareness. it will be a great help. thank you

@stollvongati

3 жыл бұрын

Hi! Sorry for the late answer. We are using different software, 3ds max, houdini, adobe stuff... but we are a professional agency so if you want to do it by your own you can look for blender or something like that which is for free

👍👍

...but is it made of prefamulated Amulite?

How much oil preassure does this make when braking?

@adamcousins2459

3 жыл бұрын

all of it

Voith🔥

@WeighedWilson

3 жыл бұрын

Coming to a Department of Education near you!

3:13 - is compression no longer occuring then? Surely the compression still creates substantial heat, whether during acceleration or deceleration events?

@garypeatling7927

3 жыл бұрын

Fuel is shut off when braking on most system the compession of engine is used to slow down vehicle

@jklbubbublkj7939

3 жыл бұрын

@@garypeatling7927 not on a diesel. they have very low engine brakeing, hence jake brakes.

@WeighedWilson

3 жыл бұрын

@@jklbubbublkj7939 you are mistaken. They have very heavy payloads, hence Jake brakes.

@jklbubbublkj7939

3 жыл бұрын

@@WeighedWilson and very little engine braking. they dont have throttle bodies to regulate air intake, so the pistons cannot create the vacuum to make braking.

@WeighedWilson

3 жыл бұрын

@@jklbubbublkj7939 compression makes engine braking far more than vacuum.

Millennials: “You can’t say that!!!”

I love when my scania do Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeseeeee. On downhill.🤠🤠

@amryms

3 жыл бұрын

love to see your truck vid :)

The source of this impressive sound😍

You would do well to keep your efficiencies high, mr. Freeman. After all - we are all working for our common cause.

why this is this good compared to classical tyres brakes?

They should use this technology for hybrid trucks, instead of just braking the vehicle could also create charge for the battery

@jklbubbublkj7939

3 жыл бұрын

they do. most if not all electrics and hybrids have motor/generator combos. Its so common basically all riding mowers have them! (starter doubles as generator)

A better solution is to have the PTO drive a hydraulic pump/motor that charges up a piston accumulator during braking. The charged accumulator will then feed the motor to drive the transmission during acceleration via a proportional pressure reducing valve allowing for fine control. That way you do not need the heat exchanger as the energy is recovered. A hybrid system for trucks in essence.

@briankemp2290

5 жыл бұрын

Im sure the mine haul trucks use this type of system.

@RiyazAhmad-rz8oy

5 жыл бұрын

Yes gud idea

@tj1110

5 жыл бұрын

But where do you put the compressed oil when the accumulator is fully charged? The retarder is built for long downhill roads. You can´t save that much compressed oil in the truck. And you would also need a hydraulic motor for restoring the energy to the drivetrain. The system would be to heavy, so less payload.

@daveriddlelin9327

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe good for busses in cities.. fully loaded truck comin down 5000 ft.. u can’t store all that energy,unfortunately gotta get rid of it

Me: wow an active engine brake, such a cool idea Also me: " youre a retarder side gear !"

I drove some buses that were fitted with retarders and from a drivers point of view and many others driving service buses we hated them , they never came on smoothly , some of them even banging on and off no mater how lightly the brake was pressed , yes they may save on wear and tear but the passengers that were thrown about just blamed the driver and I actually had some heated arguments with them , most were semi automatic but some fully automatic voith push button autos , the way we got round it was to slip the gear change into neutral which made for much smoother stops , but if the company found out you would be reprimanded , this was in the 80 s 90 s so I think judging by the few buses I've traveled on they have sorted it out or just not use them on some of them.

@matthew25846

3 жыл бұрын

They've improved dramatically in most cases. I drive a VDL with two stage retarder, pedal activated, and it works so well. They come in very smoothly now.

good device

2014: Energy to heat 2021: Energy to Energy?

@WeighedWilson

3 жыл бұрын

Still energy to heat. Watch it again with your helmet on the table next to you.

So its just like a fluid flywheel that's forced to stall.

@YusufGinnah

3 жыл бұрын

Similar principle to an auto gearbox with torque converter. 👍🏼

Why not Clutched Dynamo for kinetic to electricity generation

AMAZING .. MADE IN GERMANY HI-TECH AND THE BEST

Jake brake, and now this. We'll have to come up with a new slang.

Cant u use it to store the energy for takeoff as well?...kinda like an electronic capacitor...but uses the pressurised oil to drive the turbine and assist the truck in reducing engine load on takeoff...even if it lasted 7 seconds, the reduced engine load would save so much on fuel...like 1st gear is on assist, then from there, motor takes over and builds up air pressure during braking to force the oil to turn the engine on launch after stopping at traffic lights or toll gates

@dumyjobby

4 жыл бұрын

it can't because usually there is a lot of time between slowing the vehicle and take off, usually the retarder is used when prolongued braking is needed, often going downhill and rarely we have to stop in such circumstances, also the oil is accelerated in the " turbine" section but when it gets back to the oil tank it has to be slow down before reentering the turbine to create braking force, so the main tranformation of energy os from kinetic energy to heat

@amwomt7528

4 жыл бұрын

No for one elementary reason : There is no such "presurised oil" You can store energy in presurised gas but not presurised liquid as oil

@almostbutnotentirelyunreas166

3 жыл бұрын

@@amwomt7528 For a nominal cost, enginneers could easily build a 10 second energy storage facility.

@theonly5001

3 жыл бұрын

@@almostbutnotentirelyunreas166 Engineers can build a fixed amount energy storage, say 2kwh. How long this lasts is entirely dependend on the load you pull from that storage. And it would add so much complexety and weight with this system, that the overall Fuelsavings will be not measurable

@almostbutnotentirelyunreas166

3 жыл бұрын

@@theonly5001 Nonsense, energy recapture is a matter of proper engineering, that is all.

Чем то напоминает пневмокоробку от лаз657.

*furiously researching how to fix one of these POS that has exploded and locked up the entire drive train leaving customer stuck on motorway*

Do VRs cause more fuel consumption ?

Funciona como um freio é isso ?

Gibts das Video auch in Deutsch?

@stollvongati

Жыл бұрын

Leider nicht auf KZread öffentlich

What about jakes? No extra parts needed and it doesn’t use fuel either

@Powertampa

5 жыл бұрын

I CAN'T HEAR YOU MY EXHAUST BRAKE IS ON...

@akupehsluarketatAR

5 жыл бұрын

my exhaust brake noise is my horn

@dumyjobby

4 жыл бұрын

because engine braoes are much much weaker than retarders, i have on my scania both and the engine exhaust brake doesn't even compare to the retarder.

My best friend on down slopes !

Please I want to understand the system well how can I lean more

@knuffelbaer1971

3 жыл бұрын

It is all explained what you need to know. its an easy system like the jake brake too

That doesn't look expensive, heavy or unreliable at all.

@dumyjobby

4 жыл бұрын

it is heavy and also expensive but very reliable.

@tonymartin4255

4 жыл бұрын

they are very awesome

@skakamj0lk

4 жыл бұрын

Found the American truck driver! These things are awesome and can easily produce over 1200 hp of braking power in combination with a good engine brake. If you don't know what that means, it means you can hold a 50 metric ton truck and trailer at 80 km/h down an 8 % gradient effortlessly.

@energymc22

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, it would be more reliable if it didn't exist all together but joking aside I don't see why it would be unreliable - it's quite a simple device.

@listerdave1240

3 жыл бұрын

@@energymc22 Yes, and unlike conventional brakes it has no parts that wear out and need to be replaced regularly.

*Why not just closed the exhaust pipe??? My truck has it Exhaust Brake. More simple and easy to maintenance.*

I invented an internal combustion engine #enginewithoutcrankshaft

@YusufGinnah

3 жыл бұрын

Salaam, Looks great...! Subbed you too 👍🏼

so its a torque converter in reverse

@Hilde_von_Derp

3 жыл бұрын

Torque perverter.

This is just a Cat brakesaver this is old technology

Я ниче не понял, но это было круто))

@0imax

4 жыл бұрын

Куда уж проще-то.

But can they make an "Unretarder" for my ex?

@juliogonzo2718

3 жыл бұрын

No such technology exists at this time.

what does this unit cost?

@jklbubbublkj7939

3 жыл бұрын

probably 8k. go to thier website.

I can see this being used as a supplemental system with an engine brake but it seem like it would be a needlessly complicated replacement for one. The greater the complexity the more potential failure points.

@huntsbychainsaw5986

4 жыл бұрын

@Stian Myrdal Laursen I'll admit I'm surprised this sort of system can be reliable but I hove no experience with it.

@huntsbychainsaw5986

4 жыл бұрын

@Stian Myrdal Laursen an engine brake does not accelerate the wear inside the engine any more than regular engine operation. The engine brake essentially turns the engine into an air compressor (simplified terms) and uses the resistance of the compressed air to make braking force. In my experience exhaust brakes or turbo retarders are extremely ineffective at producing any real braking force and the excessive exhaust heat generated by the restriction can be problematic.

@huntsbychainsaw5986

4 жыл бұрын

@Stian Myrdal Laursen I'm always happy to find new thing though so I will look into Mercedes.

@huntsbychainsaw5986

4 жыл бұрын

@Stian Myrdal Laursen To be fair I do find European trucks to be superior to North America trucks in build quality and comfort and I would certainly prefer a silent braking system instead of this 15L Detroit screaming at me. That being said the engine wear with or without an engine brake is negligible at best but I get your point.

@huntsbychainsaw5986

4 жыл бұрын

@Stian Myrdal Laursen I guess I'm coming at the issues from the frame of mind that anything that adds complexity and involves heat and hydraulic fluid, if its built to the Same quality of the rest of the trucks I drive... It's going to either blow up or burn down.

seems like more tare weight than a conventional exhaust or jacobs brake, thats probly why they are not real common in the states

@Doggydoglol

4 жыл бұрын

The Bear Republic we prefer not to deafen the entire continent when slowing down a truck in Europe

@dumyjobby

4 жыл бұрын

the brakimg force is way stronger than an exhaust braking sistem. here we have both but i rarely use the exhasut braking since is mich weaker than the retarder, even when loaded i only use the brakes when i have to come to a dead stop and even so most of the braking is done by the retarder, also it saves a great deal in terms of brakimg pads and disks amd finally you have to consider that europe us quite mountanous so just a exaust sistem doesn't cut it here.

@snek9353

4 жыл бұрын

@@Doggydoglol Only unmuffled engine brakes are loud and they're rare and only on very old rigs.

@PatrickBaptist

4 жыл бұрын

Allison builds them into some transmissions, my MD3060 has a retarder, love it.

@forsaken43252

4 жыл бұрын

They are probably not very common in the states because companies do the minimum to fall on the required standards. In europe they get slapped hard for violations.

why is this recommended again?

@shootMEshootME1

5 жыл бұрын

Because you need to buy it

İn Turkey ,a lot of drivers and driver candidate are need this video in Turkish…

@stollvongati

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, this is an old video we made for our client Voith and we didn't produce it in turkish

And when (not if but when) the electronics fail, you're fucked.

Gotta love Germans' use of Google translate.

So its an Oil Brake.

@Jan_372

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

of approximately 2

When the load 15th tons above not good work especially in down lift i think more improvement it may be i am wrong thanks

flywheels... ;-) much more better and usefull

Plz total enstulmint onli 1gari plz m driver help mi sar

The engine brake is sooooo much less complicated...

@theonly5001

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the type of engine break. A exhaust break ist less complicated then a jake break, but the jake break needs exact timings and is loud. This system, doesn't care about timings and is rather quiet. Plus, it supplies way more breaking torque and doesn't wear the flywheel of the engine that much.

@jklbubbublkj7939

3 жыл бұрын

@@theonly5001 wait wait wait, wear the flywheel? what do you think a jake is? it is cam profile change. thats it. thats literally all it is. it has nothing to do with the flywheel.

Good, now I can brake my beetle