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Vital's $2,500 Full-Suspension Budget Mountain Bike Comparison Test

We had a blast testing these mountain bikes!
Video Timeline
0:00 - Introduction
2:40 - Polygon Siskiu T8 Review
8:15 - Scott Spark 960 Review
15:49 - Devinci Marshall Review
23:08 - Cannondale Habit 5 Review
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Vital's $2,000 Mountain Bike Comparison - 6 bikes tested - • Vital's $2,000 Full-Su...
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Vital MTB is stoked to bring your our $2,500 mountain bike comparison test with four full-suspension 29ers and four hard-hitting testers. About a year ago, we compared six $2,000 mountain bikes to see if a new rider buying a bike for the first time could really get a trail-ready bike at that price. We came away with plenty of smiles and tons of respect for the bikes we rode, so this time around, we’ve bumped the budget up another $500 to see what kind of difference that might make in bike durability and performance.
#MTB #mountainbike #mountainbiking
Amanda Wentz, Brad Howell, Trevor Trixie Boldi and Steve Wentz - our testers.
We’ve been lucky enough at Vital MTB to test some really nice, expensive bikes over the last 11 years, but we always love coming back to a more affordable price point. While we’re calling $2,500 affordable, we know this is not chump change, and $2,500 spent in the used bike market could land a really great bike that’s only a couple years old.
We found four full-suspension 29ers in the 120mm to 140mm rear travel range. They’re considered trail bikes, if you’re unaware of how mountain bikes are classified these days. This is a mountain bike that’s made to do a little bit of everything, and hopefully do it pretty well. It has more travel than a cross-country bike and less travel than what’s called an enduro bike.
Every bike we tested was a size medium, they are all aluminum frames, and coincidentally, they all featured 12-speed 1x drivetrains which means there is a single chainring up front at the cranks and no front derailleur, keeping the bike simple, efficient and quiet. While there were component similarities between the bikes, each bike was definitely its own machine, each with unique riding characteristics. The test took place in the Boise, Idaho, area at Wilson Creek, Table Rock, Eagle Bike Park and Boise Bike Park to find out where these bikes shine, who they’re best suited for and what could be improved.
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  • @vitalmtb
    @vitalmtb3 жыл бұрын

    We had a blast testing these bikes! Which bike would you pick? Video Timeline 0:00 - Introduction 2:40 - Polygon Siskiu T8 Review 8:15 - Scott Spark 960 Review 15:49 - Devinci Marshall Review 23:08 - Cannondale Habit 5 Review WIN A SRAM GX AXS DRIVETRAIN and help the trails in this video, no purchase necessary - www.vitalmtb.com/features/Win-a-SRAM-GX-AXS-Eagle-Drivetrain-Worth-Over-1-000,3047 Vital's $2,000 Mountain Bike Comparison - 6 bikes tested - kzread.info/dash/bejne/doeN2balpMuXn8Y.html YT Jeffsy 29 Base Review (because we know you'll ask : ) - kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXl3x7SEo9ytg6g.html

  • @jimmycychowski1142

    @jimmycychowski1142

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Polgon should be arriving 26th of April 😉

  • @jimmycychowski1142

    @jimmycychowski1142

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@anishg777 I'm in Australia so I preorderd one nearly 6 weeks ago 😎

  • @rocknrider

    @rocknrider

    3 жыл бұрын

    I went with the T8. Should receive it by June.

  • @jimmycychowski1142

    @jimmycychowski1142

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rocknrider like to know how ya like it I'm just getting back into MTB so this Polgon is a good start 👍🏻

  • @teddyhanover1325

    @teddyhanover1325

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vitus mythique 27 VRX or Polygon siskiu T8 Dont know what to get??? Comparison video?

  • @Coerced
    @Coerced3 жыл бұрын

    you guys started of great stating the metric weight along with the imperial numbers but quickly forgot after the first one XD

  • @loganhalliwell9503
    @loganhalliwell95033 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been looking into the polygon siskiu t8 so this video helped a lot, thanks Vital MTB 🤘

  • @MidWestMTB

    @MidWestMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely recommend it!

  • @mistrydriver2
    @mistrydriver23 жыл бұрын

    Bought my devinci Marshall a month ago and have been loving it so far. It is my first full suspension bike and so far it has been amazing to learn on. It came with everything I needed and it didn't break the bank.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    awesome!

  • @stevethepokieman
    @stevethepokieman3 жыл бұрын

    “For a highschooler” Me, 30 working full time and still can’t afford one of these “affordable” bikes 😭

  • @MidWestMTB

    @MidWestMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, have you tried Crippling Debt™? I used to not be able to afford things either but now I can buy anything I want with Crippling Debt™!

  • @derekpetersen1078

    @derekpetersen1078

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MidWestMTB LOL! 🤣

  • @gwilly3888

    @gwilly3888

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you heard of onlyfans?

  • @aeromechmike

    @aeromechmike

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gwilly3888 lmfao

  • @MultiTerrainBike

    @MultiTerrainBike

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gwilly3888 taek

  • @kevinross7565
    @kevinross75653 жыл бұрын

    That Scott would be perfect for my local Georgia trails

  • @desertlogic222
    @desertlogic2222 жыл бұрын

    I work at a bike shop and just spent a week in Utah with a $2350 Giant Trance 2. I was blown away with the stiffness of the rear triangle, it’s climbing and braking performance. Whatever voodoo Giant did with that frame blew away Santa Cruz and Specialized enduro bikes I’m used to riding.

  • @bawalmagisip1

    @bawalmagisip1

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a 9 y/o Trance x2. I think I'll upgrade to that. Tnx!

  • @paulvictor9368
    @paulvictor93683 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Just got the Siskiu T8, now to get the skills to match it.

  • @kwilson4880
    @kwilson48803 жыл бұрын

    Yaaaayy, bikes I can afford

  • @Ilovethisaccount500
    @Ilovethisaccount5003 жыл бұрын

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE I SAW IT ON YOUR INSTAGARM STORY YAY

  • @Spoolingturbski
    @Spoolingturbski24 күн бұрын

    I bought a Salsa Ridgeline for $1500 and rode it once… Immediately went back to REI and ordered a Cannondale Habit 4 for $2300. Can’t wait to get on the trail and see how much better full suspension does. Thanks for this review.

  • @CarloDimacali
    @CarloDimacali3 жыл бұрын

    Love the review! Though I already did a pre-order in March , it's nice to know that I made the right decision. Currently waiting for my Polygon T8 coming in June. 🙂

  • @derekpetersen1078

    @derekpetersen1078

    3 жыл бұрын

    I pre-ordered a T8 as well. I am super excited!

  • @dtolios

    @dtolios

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same train

  • @laceycristo4615

    @laceycristo4615

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here! Can't wait to ride it!

  • @TheBZAinNJ

    @TheBZAinNJ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here! My T8 pre-order back in the end of March had an estimated ship date of May 31st but now they show June 15th. The wait is killing me. This review has me champing at the bit even more! Great video!

  • @dtolios

    @dtolios

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBZAinNJ common story: pre-order drop down was taking mid may delivery for L size, invoice was processed for June 17th. Many companies project north of 5-6months delivery. Some, like YT, switched to a more fluid component spec, giving you equivalents, as the shortage is not with frames, rather component kits.

  • @AndreKatov
    @AndreKatov3 жыл бұрын

    I love my Cannondale Habit 2 2020! A beast. Upgraded to Dt swiss 240 and Carbon wheels now it’s a hard tail when the shock is closed due to stiffness, amazing!

  • @zaidanzidnaffan5286
    @zaidanzidnaffan52863 жыл бұрын

    Siskiu t8 look sick🔥

  • @MidWestMTB

    @MidWestMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @11leonidas11
    @11leonidas113 жыл бұрын

    Better reviews than Pinkbike.

  • @skullsroad3642

    @skullsroad3642

    3 жыл бұрын

    So much better.

  • @eugenux

    @eugenux

    3 жыл бұрын

    actually, pretty weak format. The conclusions were a joke.

  • @PL-fh8cz

    @PL-fh8cz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tony G I would say pretty weak. Why waste so much time having every tester guess the weight and the conclusions don't really say anything meaningful. Personally, I'll go back to Pink Bike.

  • @lukesteele5013
    @lukesteele50133 жыл бұрын

    i just bought a banshee prime v1 for 2400 with fox factory suspension, a Deore drivetrain and stans wheels. there is good stuff out there

  • @reneh.6551
    @reneh.65513 жыл бұрын

    Nice review... Affordable bikes, pros, cons, upgrades and personality... Good job 👍

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍

  • @nicacrush
    @nicacrush3 жыл бұрын

    I have the spark and absolutely love it. It all depends on your riding preference. I lean more toward the cross country style but still can hit jumps and the technical stuff when I want. As far as climbing, the spark will crush the rest.

  • @l.charles5577

    @l.charles5577

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just purchased the Spark and love it have been on various terrains and handles them well.

  • @shamrock4840

    @shamrock4840

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spark owns XC on world circuit

  • @BGraves
    @BGraves3 жыл бұрын

    Drink a shot every time you hear "playful" in any mountain bike video

  • @TheDiablosix6six
    @TheDiablosix6six3 жыл бұрын

    An actual (kinda) affordable bike review video!! 👍👍

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    don't miss our $2,000 MTB review vid - kzread.info/dash/bejne/doeN2balpMuXn8Y.html

  • @lossantoscity3249
    @lossantoscity32493 жыл бұрын

    Whats really amazing about this is that this will be an amazing bike in 2nd hand market for next generation riders who is less fortunate,

  • @gerrygadget
    @gerrygadget3 жыл бұрын

    I'd actually rather have 1x11 drivetrains. Save a little weight and increase durability. As long as similar range, I don't need the 12th gear. Brad, great job on the weight estimation! Another great Vital shootout, thanks guys!

  • @arc9812

    @arc9812

    8 ай бұрын

    I know why so many gears, I think 6 gears would be perfect for me.

  • @dirtwolfmtb
    @dirtwolfmtb Жыл бұрын

    These direct to consumer bike brands are definitely making other brands more competitive. Interesting to see more of these pop up. Wonder what the long term reviews would be on these.

  • @LaurentiusTriarius

    @LaurentiusTriarius

    10 ай бұрын

    With Yeti entering the direct to consumer game you bet value has ran out the window.... Seriously, jokes aside it's a great thing for consumers, Polygon and Canyon are killing it with their offerings...

  • @dirtwolfmtb

    @dirtwolfmtb

    10 ай бұрын

    @@LaurentiusTriarius definitely also commemcal and YT. Pretty phenomenal part spec for the money.

  • @czajda
    @czajda3 жыл бұрын

    I have spark 960 for 3 months now and I really like it. It is my first full suspension bike. It is great for XC rides and I have fun on trail too, even I am beginner

  • @ginganinjakid7063
    @ginganinjakid70633 жыл бұрын

    My polygon Siskiu t8 is coming next month

  • @MidWestMTB

    @MidWestMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    The thing rips!

  • @alabaster4263

    @alabaster4263

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will be delayed a few months

  • @rickyhernandez4844

    @rickyhernandez4844

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here I've been waiting since March

  • @Flash25296
    @Flash252962 жыл бұрын

    I am not sure if you could only select bikes you could find but it would have been nice to see the Giant Trance 29 in this lineup.

  • @henry06x
    @henry06x3 жыл бұрын

    You had to bump the price up because bikes have gone up $500-$1000 in the past year.... Money printer go BRRRRR!!!!

  • @gpearce11
    @gpearce113 жыл бұрын

    I wish we could have seen how the Nukeproof Reactor Comp would have compared, but it was sadly a few hundred out of budget (hopefully we can see it in a

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    we enjoyed the reactor last year - kzread.info/dash/bejne/lm1n0M6tYbGXeLA.html and we have this build going too kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmGM2dqzZNGydpM.html

  • @ArizonaMMJ
    @ArizonaMMJ Жыл бұрын

    You guys need to fire up a new one for the 2022's and 2023's full sus bikes!

  • @1eyeblind
    @1eyeblind3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome selection of affordable mountain bikes. Thanks for sharing 🤙🏼

  • @ok-lv1qy
    @ok-lv1qy Жыл бұрын

    I use my Scott’s dual lockout literally every time I ride. I’m obsessed with it

  • @sopadre77
    @sopadre77 Жыл бұрын

    I was looking for a full suspension MTB in exactly that price range and the Siskiu T8 made my final 3. In the end, I went with a slightly used 2021 Nukeproof Reactor C for just $100 over my budget. The bike market right now, both new and used, is definitely a buyers market.

  • @MultiTerrainBike
    @MultiTerrainBike3 жыл бұрын

    very well, Vital MTB.. i love it so much, enjoying every minute of this video.

  • @wyric
    @wyric3 жыл бұрын

    Was in that budget category. Ended up with Stumpy alloy 2021 (it was before price increase). Components wise it's not a best deal, but it rides pretty well. As for Scott spark 970, it's not good deal, and the reason is rear 5x141mm axle.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    we tried to get a stumpy alloy, but ended up with an alloy comp that we'll get reviewed soon. since it's $3,000, we didn't include it here.

  • @polishguywithhardtospellna8227

    @polishguywithhardtospellna8227

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is a valuable warning. Although boost 141 isn't as bad as they paint it. It might even have higher clamping force on that axle than the common through ones.

  • @kornofilo

    @kornofilo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 QR has en insane clamping force, the only butt is getting a second set of wheels for the rear since is almost imposible to get QR microspline hubs.

  • @marcusaurelius200516
    @marcusaurelius200516 Жыл бұрын

    I love these videos! I watched the $2,000 one from the year before this one and just made my first purchase. These definitely help! Much appreciated. I think more of these would be awesome. Maybe a $3,500ish shootout next? Forgive me if that’s already on here. I just found y’all’s channel. Love it though. Thanks again and I’m looking forward to watching more of these to catch up on things and see what’s on the horizon for the future as far as the my next upgrade goes.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    Жыл бұрын

    awesome, glad we could help! what's funny is these $2,500 bikes are now the $3,500 bikes HAHA (it's crazy how bike prices have gone in the last year or so) - we'll be working on more in the future for sure. if you have time, hit our website for a lot more reviews too - www.vitalmtb.com/product/main

  • @CreatureSkateboardC2
    @CreatureSkateboardC23 жыл бұрын

    3:56 Finally understand what Head Tube Angle means!

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    nice!

  • @CreatureSkateboardC2

    @CreatureSkateboardC2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vitalmtb Sick review guys!

  • @dCip77
    @dCip773 жыл бұрын

    Worth considering the specialized status for this line up next time too!

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    status is awesome, but different category than these. we tried to get the stumpjumper alloy but they were not available. we have the alloy comp in for testing w/ a review soon. what's interesting is that the only status bikes found on specialized.com are the old DH statuses.

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or Giant Trance X

  • @dCip77

    @dCip77

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrvwbug4423 Way better option that actually fits the category they were going for lol I've just been buzzin over the status so I wanted to mention it lol

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dCip77 and @mrvwbug44 we tried to get a Trance for the test as well, but Giant didn't have any. Also a Trek Fuel ex5, but no dice.

  • @baddriversofcolga
    @baddriversofcolga3 жыл бұрын

    Great review! It's pretty crazy how heavy trail bikes have gotten. And shame about the Devinci's price increase. $2100 for a Canadian-made frame was an incredible deal. Just wish it came in a more interesting color.

  • @Ilovethisaccount500

    @Ilovethisaccount500

    3 жыл бұрын

    my thoughts exactly, i bought (pre-order) the bike at $2099 and im hopefully picking it up on tuesday. Im afraid im going to show up and they are going to want to full updated price. Will have to demand my deposit back I guess. Planning on giving it a new paint job if I really like it!

  • @baddriversofcolga

    @baddriversofcolga

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ilovethisaccount500 Nice! Hope it works out for ya!

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug44233 жыл бұрын

    In that same price range is the Giant Trance X 29 3, their new aggressive trail bike, the 3 build is SX or Deore drivetrain, RS 35 gold fork, Fox DPS shock, DHF/Dissector tire combo and TRP 4 pots. I think it would win this test with ease. IMHO Cannondale needs to stick to XC bikes, it seems to be the only MTB they are good at.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    we tried to get the giant but they didn't have any available at our time of testing.

  • @davidprice1074
    @davidprice10743 жыл бұрын

    Lmaooooo you purposely made those bikes fall over 😂 saw the log get pulled and everything

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    keen eye : )

  • @davidprice1074

    @davidprice1074

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vitalmtb thanks lol :)

  • @benjameng9475
    @benjameng94752 жыл бұрын

    I love the Scott Spark

  • @anthonywalters7434
    @anthonywalters74343 жыл бұрын

    I’m finally getting a full suspension and went with a Nukeproof Reactor Comp. It would be interesting to see how it stacks up to these.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    we enjoyed the reactor last year (not the comp), but nukeproofs are really dialed these days - kzread.info/dash/bejne/lm1n0M6tYbGXeLA.html

  • @Simon__T
    @Simon__T3 жыл бұрын

    for those who think about the canyon spectral al my spectral broke at the same place two times in one year and i know someone with the same proplem so unfortunately i cant recommend it

  • @Hornet135

    @Hornet135

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s disappointing.

  • @rizkydarussalam003
    @rizkydarussalam0033 жыл бұрын

    Kami suka Polygon ( we love Polygon). Polygon Made in Indonesia

  • @MidWestMTB

    @MidWestMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    Polygon Bagus!

  • @NoBrakes23
    @NoBrakes233 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully parts supply chain issues will encourage more manufacturers to offer frame only and/or frameset only, (for something other than the highest end carbon frame.) If Devinci offers that Marshall frame only, it'd probably replace the Ripmo/Ripley AF currently at the top of my list. $2300-$2600 isn't bad for a complete full sus, but I'd replace almost all of those parts anyway, so I'd rather pay less for frame only.

  • @alexdesignz09
    @alexdesignz093 жыл бұрын

    My 2018 YT Jeffsy was $2299 and its been great

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    we liked the jeffsy base 29 too - check it out - kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXl3x7SEo9ytg6g.html

  • @Flat4Power4Life
    @Flat4Power4Life2 жыл бұрын

    These bikes are all around $3k now, for that price you might as well spend the extra money and buy a Stumpjumper Alloy Comp. Full Fox suspension, drop seat, 12x1, big disc brakes, 32 lbs.

  • @adamcvanwinkle
    @adamcvanwinkle2 жыл бұрын

    I really like this review format. Excellent work folks!

  • @James-dn1hu
    @James-dn1hu3 жыл бұрын

    Sad to not see commencal in this list

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    we tried. couldn't get everything we asked for.

  • @James-dn1hu

    @James-dn1hu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vitalmtb that’s fair. Can’t have everything

  • @jadenhamer1581
    @jadenhamer15813 жыл бұрын

    Why won't anyone review the giant trance 3?

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    probably can't find one to get right now. looks like a great bike at a good price

  • @lepigpen
    @lepigpen3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, when bikes aren't available for major media outlets in the sport. I just can't wait... CAN NOT WAIT for all these bikes to hit the used market sparkling clean with the sellers trying to sell for MSRP (because they paid tax and upgraded the pedals!).

  • @lesterfalcon1350
    @lesterfalcon13503 жыл бұрын

    Here is Vietnam, options are limited to a few manufactures, but the first two models are available to order from distributers, but at this time of year it's between the Scott 960 2022 with it's new hidden shock and whatever Polygon do to refine the T8 for next year. This review really helped, but I'm still stuck. The T8 is about 80% of the price of the 960, so I'm leaning that way.

  • @th_js
    @th_js3 жыл бұрын

    Can you use metric? Otherwise great video!

  • @DavidFoundCo

    @DavidFoundCo

    3 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @antrace92
    @antrace923 жыл бұрын

    Tire rub on frames in 2021 is unacceptable

  • @MidWestMTB

    @MidWestMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm unsure on their comment on that for the Polygon there's a very active facebook group for Polygon owners and people comment and complain about all kinds of things but I have never seen frame rubbing come up.

  • @jayjaytronics8358
    @jayjaytronics83582 жыл бұрын

    30:46 OMG that drop with the Siskiu - no chance that rear wheel is true anymore!

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy19932 жыл бұрын

    2:40 Polygon Siskiu T8: The tyre rub might be cus of too flexy wheels. but also if the frame is too flexy, but it might not be too flexy. but did you notice any difference in flex from left to right? did it flex more to the right or left? on 2014 Fuel EX the bike flexed to the left more, on that bike the flex was both due to flexy wheels and due to flexy frameset. So that's something you could investigate further to see if you can get rid of the tyre rub. But the bike seems to be built to be stiffer and more robust than that crappy Trek Fuel Ex I had.

  • @palasari79
    @palasari793 жыл бұрын

    Polygon more affordable

  • @piotrkc8673
    @piotrkc86733 жыл бұрын

    Did you tested Scoot Spark size M? Who was riding on M size? What was the rider height?

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes. medium. riders were between 5'7" and 5'9" - all riders rode all bikes.

  • @berrymccockiner3492
    @berrymccockiner34923 жыл бұрын

    just ordered my t8 last week. fuckin cant wait for it

  • @Carolbaskin23

    @Carolbaskin23

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wish y’all would quit buying them🙂🙂 I gotta wait 2 months pre order if I order it right now and idk about that I’ve seemed to lean to that one everytime but I might find a diffrent one I don’t wanna wait 2 months

  • @berrymccockiner3492

    @berrymccockiner3492

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Carolbaskin23 i don't blame you. i sold my last bike back in September and have been eyeing the t8 since last summer when i saw the purple. i ordered mine 4/16 on pre-order with an ETA of 5/24 for shipping. so hopefully it'll show up soon. been stashing away parts in the mean time

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld2 жыл бұрын

    A nice and thorough comparison video.

  • @fabedupunx
    @fabedupunx3 жыл бұрын

    This is an example of a really great comparison test. Could you do the same for a $3000-3500 bugdet enduro bikes, including the new Polygon Siskiu N9, please?

  • @PAULEYBOY84

    @PAULEYBOY84

    3 жыл бұрын

    N7 I love

  • @ericxy1413
    @ericxy14133 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for making this vid

  • @jptothetree
    @jptothetree3 жыл бұрын

    YT and Commencal also have great offerings for this price point.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    agreed. check our jeffsy 29 review - kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXl3x7SEo9ytg6g.html

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius10 ай бұрын

    That's weird, I almost bought a Polygon siskiu in the last years because of reviews like that, very positive... Two years later a riding buddy got one (large 29) with slight upgrades (carbon bars n such) we swapped bikes, ooof deception, I wouldn't say it's sh*t but it's far from great that flexy rear end feels cheap asf, it doesn't give the feeling of a well built thing you can definitely feel the play. So glad I didn't listen to reviews 😂 *edit: I bought a trance X 29 instead mostly because I could demo it, I also tried more expensive bikes from kona, specialized and transition and settled on the trance X because I loved the smooth action, only regret is not buying a bare frame lol. Components at this price range aren't compatible with my daily needs. Tektro brakes, SRAM SX and rock shox 35 gold are all hot garbages, Giant branded hubs and wheels too, such waste...

  • @ImpulseAudioSpeakers
    @ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 жыл бұрын

    I have the Marshall and I agree about the center of gravity. I’m looking to buy XT SPDs because they’re a few mm lower stack than my 530s. Crazy? Maybe different shoes would help. I did put a 160mm lyrik on it so that raised the BB even higher ☺️

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    whoa, a 160 lyrik!

  • @jorgebremer1227
    @jorgebremer12273 жыл бұрын

    when is the stumpjumper review video coming out😭

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    we have an alloy comp in the house. review in a month or so. we tried to get an alloy for this test but there weren't any available.

  • @donovanhendrix9857
    @donovanhendrix98573 жыл бұрын

    man look up the specialized status. Its a different type of bike than these but the spec is just insane.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    the status is a rad bike for sure!

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vitalmtb Would you have been able to get a Giant Trance X for this test? I know the 3 build is in this price range

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrvwbug4423 we tried, but giant didn't have any. looks like a great bike for the money

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy19932 жыл бұрын

    Scott Spark 960: 10:14 good they went with a model with direct actuation instead of a servo wave with no bite point adjustment, cus those would render the brake useless for a small child, or person with small hands, cus the reach adjustment is not counteracted with the bite point adjustment, but with this brake, this is not a problem. But for me, budget Shimano brakes seemed like cursed, cus I had several sets leak everywhere, not all leaked from every spot. but seems like quality control might be an issue. I don't know this has improved since M6000. The handling and geo, it's not a surprise what was told here, I wish more xc bikes got better geometry, longer reach, slacker head angle, and for all bikes really a chainstay that grows with the frame size. I ride a Nicolai/Geometron G1, which I love. and I would probably love an XC bike with the same reach and similar or same head angle. My last bike had 70 deg head angle, it was not completely bad, but it was not as slack I wanted, it was a bit twitchy, but not so bad it was very hard to fight with the bike, but I love the 62 or 62.5 head angle what ever my bike has now.

  • @andrewpm2
    @andrewpm22 жыл бұрын

    Great review. I'm just glad to see a Cannondale without that God awful looking Lefty fork. Would've been nice to hear which bike each rider preferred as #1 bc they all have a riding/terrain preference

  • @gunshipanropace2gunshipand119
    @gunshipanropace2gunshipand1193 жыл бұрын

    Nice nice very Nice, more of like these please !

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    did you see our $2,000 MTB test? kzread.info/dash/bejne/doeN2balpMuXn8Y.html

  • @cody9919
    @cody99193 жыл бұрын

    Commencal Clash is an awesome $2500 pick up

  • @reneh.6551

    @reneh.6551

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep but no to great for climbing...

  • @cody9919

    @cody9919

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@reneh.6551 This is a 2500 full suspension bike test- doesn't say anything about Trail bikes only. Clash is enduro so obviously it won't climb like the trail bikes

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    3 жыл бұрын

    Going a little higher, Ibis Ripmo AF Deore build, $3200. Yes you only get Deore drivetrain and brakes both of which are perfectly good and durable (though I'd upgrade the brakes if you plan to ride park), but you get a DVO Onyx SC fork and Topaz T3 shock which is MUCH higher end than a typical 3k bike.

  • @jlj547
    @jlj5473 жыл бұрын

    I tried getting the sisku t8 and yeah good luck with that. So instead i spent an extra $1300 and got a specialized stumpjumper. It was worth it.

  • @PAULEYBOY84

    @PAULEYBOY84

    3 жыл бұрын

    And got half the bike. Dang

  • @mtbfiend2515
    @mtbfiend25153 жыл бұрын

    Well I really enjoy my polygon T8 I would absolutely send that sucker to the bike shop to get set up. I ended having two 90° angle creases in the dropper post cable due to the crazy angle from the BB up to the seat post it was prolly set up like this from the factory and as a result it never worked all that well so I had to replace the housing and cable. same with the front brake hose, it ended up having a major crease in the brake hose it still works but it’s definitely a downer

  • @duncankp1710

    @duncankp1710

    2 жыл бұрын

    was there grease in your headset?

  • @mtbfiend2515

    @mtbfiend2515

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@duncankp1710 I went over all the bolts and bearings and added grease (as you should do with any new bike as the factory doesn't add a lot of grease) the dropper wouldn't be affected by the headset so I'm not sure what you're getting at but after these few blunders the bike was awesome and I love riding it. I had contacted support and they sent me over a new front brake cable and housing/cable for the dropper. it was just a QC issue and I'm sure not indicative for the company/bike

  • @samidd5560
    @samidd55602 жыл бұрын

    I bought the polygon siskiu T8 😏🥰 its a Really good bike for the price !!

  • @sqlim85
    @sqlim853 жыл бұрын

    Pleas show/tell all measurements ect also in metric. thx.

  • @dorfar178
    @dorfar1783 жыл бұрын

    Isnt 29ers more expensive than 27.5 Wheels? Wuldn it make more sense to make a comparison of 27,5 bikes?

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    wheel size doesn't really impact price. this siskiu and the marshall are offered in 27.5 in smaller sizes and the price is the same.

  • @allenkvextreme
    @allenkvextreme3 жыл бұрын

    these is my favorite type of videos that you guys make

  • @oakleypayne-meyer7534
    @oakleypayne-meyer75343 жыл бұрын

    honestly with so many bikes in the 3,000 price point rance that are just that much better, I honestly wonder if its ever worth saving 500?? I mean if you don't bike much fine and fair but with bumping up to that 3k range you generally get much better suspension and slightly better components. Simply put the suspension upgrade is worth the minor price hike.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    very true statement indeed.

  • @Digital_Gangster
    @Digital_Gangster3 жыл бұрын

    This is crazy how heavy bikes are getting.

  • @milesdzineku9940
    @milesdzineku99403 жыл бұрын

    Disappointed in the new Habit 5, but will keep my eyes peeled for a 2020

  • @eliotcrowe7884
    @eliotcrowe78843 жыл бұрын

    Loved this review! Did you find the rear suspension design (single pivot vs faux bar vs horst vs whatever) made a big difference between these bikes? I've had one MTB (low end Kona Precept with single pivot) and am now thinking about getting a new bike in the $2,000'ish range. I'm wondering how much emphasis to place on rear suspension design vs components, especially since you can't upgrade suspension design later.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    so we had 2 single pivots (scott and polygon), the split pivot devinci and the horst cannondale. the designs weren't a major factor in our opinion. the amount of travel is relatively low out back and the kinematics seemed well sorted for each bike and their intended riding use.

  • @eliotcrowe7884

    @eliotcrowe7884

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vitalmtb Thanks!

  • @megatryn
    @megatryn3 жыл бұрын

    That opening was epic :D

  • @Kyance
    @Kyance3 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to get ur review on some of the Merida bikes - like the One.Twenty and One.Forty lineup

  • @adambrookens5459

    @adambrookens5459

    2 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately I don't think they will test Merida bikes because they aren't in the US. However, I think some Merida models are sold through Specialized here.

  • @tonyparkin3379
    @tonyparkin33793 жыл бұрын

    Sisku in the uk is a Calibre bossnut. It's a big seller here due to it being £1200. The linkages are weak though.

  • @derekpetersen1078

    @derekpetersen1078

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Polygon Vander is the same as the Bossnut. The Siskiu is a different bike.

  • @devinbyrnes8058
    @devinbyrnes80583 жыл бұрын

    Metric please! Keep making me pull my phone out just to understand what you are telling me. Great otherwise. Loved a review on the bikes in the price range I am looking for... if there were any for sale. Actually, since many stores make you pay in full before they are assembled, an you go more into depth on the what size you would choose for certain heights.

  • @terencebracamonte2783
    @terencebracamonte2783 Жыл бұрын

    Polygon Siskiu 2021/2022 T8's HTA is 65 to 65.5 and not 66.

  • @RadioReprised
    @RadioReprised Жыл бұрын

    1200 miles on the Poly and it is great!

  • @THRENO82
    @THRENO823 жыл бұрын

    What you guys think of specialized stumpjumper alloy $2400 us

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    looks good on paper. we tried to get one for this but they didn't have any. we have an alloy comp in house for testing ($3,000). stay tuned for that review, too.

  • @LCNismo
    @LCNismo3 жыл бұрын

    Intro of the bikes falling are perfect. 2500 lawl...after riding carbon,. I will never got alloy again.

  • @MidWestMTB
    @MidWestMTB3 жыл бұрын

    Well according to Spicoli I'm a clout chaser haha! Good reviews though, I like the more casual random thoughts on a couch format.

  • @tevahflys
    @tevahflys2 жыл бұрын

    I love my siskiu t8!

  • @eddieC007
    @eddieC0072 жыл бұрын

    Thank you guys

  • @skullsroad3642
    @skullsroad36423 жыл бұрын

    Polygon or nothin' as far as I'm concerned. Geo and spec are miles ahead of all these other bikes. The Marshall would have been a great choice if not for the price hike ($500? Really??) and Cannondale ought to be ashamed of themselves with the geo and build.

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    3 жыл бұрын

    If they could've gotten one the Giant Trance X would probably have mopped the floor here, though the Polygon has a great build for the price, it's rocking Fox while the rest are rocking motion control garbage forks.

  • @skullsroad3642

    @skullsroad3642

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrvwbug4423 just looked it up. That's a great bike.

  • @MidWestMTB

    @MidWestMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@skullsroad3642 The Polygon definitely beats it out as far as I'm concerned

  • @NDemanuele1
    @NDemanuele13 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious if you guys would recommend these to more advanced riders? I am a weekend warrior for the most part, but been riding for decades. I recently switched from an Ibis Ripley to a Ripmo. I'm wondering if I can suggest these bikes to friends that have as much experience as I have. I like the price point! Bikes seem to be getting more ridiculous in price these days. The Devinci sounds like a great buy! Thanks.

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    if you or your friends aren't super abusive, these bikes will be up to the task for sure. the devinci has the right parts in the right places. bumping budget up to $3,000 or seeing what you can find used is also a good resource for experienced advanced riders.

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Ripmo is a seriously fast bike on the downhills though easing off the pace a little should be NBD, they all probably climb about as well as a Ripmo AF, which is a veritable lead weight of a bike (my Ripmo AF is 36lbs)

  • @NDemanuele1

    @NDemanuele1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vitalmtb Thanks! Although these are decent bikes, I think you can stretch your dollar more on Used and get better setups. There are a lot of deals to be had Used despite the Pandemic, just have to be patient. I suggested this to my friend; he is set on a Carbon Ripley ( 2nd to Current Gen.) but wants to spend $3K or less. I've seen them for about that price point but you have to jump on them.

  • @NDemanuele1

    @NDemanuele1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrvwbug4423 I have the V1 Carbon. I love it, but sometimes miss my Ripley. Can't go wrong with either though.

  • @greekperspective2076
    @greekperspective20762 жыл бұрын

    I looked up the 970 and it’s almost 3k on the Scott website so either you guys have the price incorrect or Scott raised the price on the 970.

  • @jhojansjoysc7513
    @jhojansjoysc75132 жыл бұрын

    any advice on good mountain bike for traveling from state to state through trailers parks, rocky roads, hard to ride places, with trailer attach to it... looking to buy soon for long journey trip any advice Dear brethrens under $600

  • @marc7799
    @marc77993 жыл бұрын

    now try to get one of the bikes

  • @ColbyBrickwell

    @ColbyBrickwell

    3 жыл бұрын

    Facts 😂😂

  • @vitalmtb

    @vitalmtb

    3 жыл бұрын

    that's the hard part, isn't it?

  • @jisezer
    @jisezer3 жыл бұрын

    Y'all must live the most charmed life if you think that it is normal for a highschool athlete to buy a $2500 bike. That's why I never watch y'all's reviews. At nearly 30, I can finally see spending $3000 on a bike, but you presenters seem to have lived charmed lives.

  • @JNCco.

    @JNCco.

    3 жыл бұрын

    In my neighborhood a lot of highschoolers have them. Parents help them purchase them. There are plenty of places that have people who can purchase these bikes. Otherwise they wouldn't all be out of stock!

  • @Comingsafra
    @Comingsafra3 жыл бұрын

    subscribed sir

  • @jaredhoskinson4425
    @jaredhoskinson44253 жыл бұрын

    It is tough to get bike fit online. What are the rider heights for comparison and how did that match up with the sizing charts, especially for Polygon.

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