I hasten to add that I loved this video and the performance of this electric outboard engine!

I'm starting to understand why most manufacturers have put the motors under water where the gearbox would be, not only the added efficiency of eliminating gears might offset some of the additional drag but the noise difference is incredible. This motor is arguably loud and part of that might just gears but also the vibrations of the prop passing through the keel turbulence transmitting through the shaft.

The motor is not a problem. The battery capacity and size are issues. More battery more range and of course more weight on the boat and less storage space.

@scubacro5758

7 ай бұрын

Yes but 400l tank on 7.5m rib is not very light, thats 300kg.

@ScarabChris

3 ай бұрын

Not only the battery size and weight, but the cost. This 180 HP electric outboard will cost around $120,000 when factoring in motor, batteries, controls and all rigging parts. New 200 HP Mercury is around $20,000, call it $25,000 with rigging. If this boat owner only goes 30 miles per outing it would take decades to make up that extra $100K in fuel savings. Big electric outboards (over 15 HP) are a nice idea, but not there yet.

@ignasanchezl

26 күн бұрын

Until we put a price on carbon emissions this will continue to be the case for a lot of things. And yeah it kinda sucks, engines are cool and have allowed us to do a bunch of stuff but I'm willing to embrace this new concepts if I have the money and eventually price will drop and it will make sense for more people

This will make more sense whenever batteries reach about 10x the current Lipo power density.

With a few mods, it would work submerged. It could redefine the definition of 'dive boat.'

This technology is heading in the right direction. Epropulsion in the marine sector is needed and welcomed. Kudoa. #onemillionboater pledge

What’s the price?

Wouldn't designing a generator in the lower unit to recharge at the same time it is being used be more efficient than relying on a plug to recharge?

@Tron-Jockey

11 ай бұрын

You've essentially described a perpetual motion machine which, according to the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, cannot exist or at least cannot exist "efficiently" or allow any net gain in energy. Unloaded, a generator or alternator, is easy to spin by hand. However, put it under load (such as charging a battery or powering an electronic device), and it can become very difficult to turn. If you've ever switched on a high-power car audio amplifier or headlights (in an older car that uses the old inefficient round incandescent headlights), you can hear the RPM's of the engine drop as the alternator suddenly sees a significant electrical load (I use an older car for this example because the computer in a modern Fuel Injected car would quickly sense the load and automatically increase the RPM's). If you connected a generator, or an alternator, as you suggested and loaded it enough to get some useful energy out of it, it would place a significant drag on the boat or the boats motor. This in turn would require more power from the boat's motor to compensate. You can't get something for nothing. You'd end up using a lot more energy to power the boat. The differential would actually be greater than the small amount your generator would produce.

@igotatan1

11 ай бұрын

I understand but design a hub to be able to harness the movement Without being a load, it would be four mini-stators with no parasitic loss, because of 4 hubs available. Wouldn't that work?

@stevecarter9027

6 ай бұрын

No it would not work, as above you have described perpetual motion. Bigger hub would make it worse too. We are a battery breakthrough away from this “really” working

30 miles 💀 did more than that on my skiff during a day of fishing. My current boat has 300 miles of range on a tank. I’ll go up to 75 miles one way offshore in my current boat.

@CS-hd9xu

6 ай бұрын

and are you taking the boat out on your EV truck?

@jpvernoutside3378

4 ай бұрын

Yes, On a day of playing at the lake with family we usually put 20 miles on the boat. Lots of throttling up, running full throttle and pulling tubes which requires more power. Then a day of fishing, even inshore or freshwater we may travel 10-20 miles. It is a very cool concept for those who prefer leisure time on boat, but for not for someone who uses a boat for distance, speed or loads. Definitely not for a fisherman

I say the way to go is to build direct ammonia fuel cells to power electric boats. These will solve the range and weight issues. Batteries in boats are not the best mix.

✨WE ARE SAILING 💚🪂⚡️

This is as loud or louder than my 30yr old 2 stroke lol.

Awesome and about time. Why not hydraulics to replace gears?

@yachtandseatv7160

8 ай бұрын

They are working with McLaren to develop another kind of gears, we will see...

Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video could i get the website as im interested in this technology

@yachtandseatv7160

Жыл бұрын

visionmarinetechnologies.com/e-motion-180e/

How long till the first lithium boat fire?

@jward92

Жыл бұрын

I bet sailors said the same thing about the magnesium in gas outboards... which caused plenty of fires.

@Tron-Jockey

11 ай бұрын

OMG what a major fail. Considering the number of boat fires that occur every year from gasoline engines your comment show's you're rather benighted. To avoid looking like a complete moron when attempting to traduce EV's and Li-ion batteries, you might want to spend a little time performing at least a modicum of RESEARCH.

Have a spare 15hp twostroke on board, just incase. The way EVs are setting on fire, I doubt this technology.

IT'S WHISPER QUIET!!!

Gas and go . When you’re low on fuel use your external tanks. Good luck finding a charging station out there. 😂 Don’t forget the oars.

If Sharrow Propeller™loop design is installed in this engine, the range will be 25% greater.

@stevecarter9027

6 ай бұрын

I know two people with sharrow props, neither enjoy that kind of efficiency gain. Much much lower gains than 25%

The battery is good

My Suzuki is quieter than this

DAMN!!~

how heavy is the 180hp pkg. ?

@yachtandseatv7160

Жыл бұрын

400 Lbs

@96thundercat

11 ай бұрын

@@yachtandseatv7160 Not including batteries.

@yachtandseatv7160

11 ай бұрын

Of course @@96thundercat

@sunsetoriginals7320

2 ай бұрын

400lbs for a 180 is pretty good. Just need to get much better range to make it usable.

Where get juice

Whats the price.

@yachtandseatv7160

Жыл бұрын

Around 120 K the complete system with batteries and controls. But It's not available like that, only on OEM, you can't buy it separately for the moment.

Be ok as a Saturday afternoon family ski boat .....but to get offshore need 100hrs of battery life bare minimum to take it seriously as opposition against petrol n deisel

@scubacro5758

7 ай бұрын

100 hours? Outboard engines need service every 100h, how long do you stay off shore without coming back to marina 4 days?

That outboard in installed too low on the transom by the way. Another fail! That thing is giving me a headache just through YT, I cannot imagine in person. Terrible!

@jpvernoutside3378

4 ай бұрын

I noticed that too. When the water started blowing up around the motor it was very obvious. I'm sure they could get better range and speed if they installed it correctly. Maybe they need to study up on that, or the use of a jack plate. LOL

Im making boat motors using tesla motors and battery packs

@yachtandseatv7160

8 ай бұрын

Please, send me more information

Sir I am India then speak in your electric motor then have India give me purchase now how to tell purchase now electric motor

@yachtandseatv7160

11 ай бұрын

I don't sell this engine. You need to contact Vision Marine

The horrible, whining noise coming from the gearbox is a no go. The range more importantly, is also a no go. Don’t forget the cost of a electrician to wire the 220 to your dock.🤦‍♂️

@yachtandseatv7160

Жыл бұрын

You don't need the 220, a regular plug is enough

30 miles is not good range at all, normal range for boat is 200-250 miles, if I get this boat I should stop in middle of my day to do full recharge so I can get back home

Yet hydrogen technology is fully available and functional

@Tron-Jockey

11 ай бұрын

For fuel cell applications perhaps.

@yachtandseatv7160

11 ай бұрын

The hydrogen technology is coming but not totally ready for boats and mostly for small boats. Sunreef will produce one in 2024.

Omg, that motor will never sit on my boat with that high pitch sound, not only is it loud it is a terrible sound, if it was completely quiet like an electric car (without artificially generated sound) it would be compelling. But to change a gas engines nice growling sound to that? Nope. One positive though, it looks good.

ugh I hate fake youtube titles... this 100% not the first mass produced outboard motor! seriously annoying irresponsible clickbait.

@yachtandseatv7160

Ай бұрын

In the electric outboard world, it was...not alone anymore, but it was. It's exactly for this reason that Beneteau Group signed a deal with this brand

That gear whine is going to kill sales. It is a higher pitch than a regular outboard. Fail!

@yachtandseatv7160

Жыл бұрын

You are right, that's why the brand is working with McLaren to change that.

@jward92

Жыл бұрын

@@yachtandseatv7160 I made an electric outboard, and when I had this problem I went to a direct coupling. No gears, no gear whine.

30 nMi is double what the "average" boater uses? are you kidding me? My offshore tuna trips alone are over 130nmi. all on my 2007 225 Evinrude. hasnt skipped a beat in 16 years, and got it for $3k. 40 miles is just a joke. and thats just at cruise. long long way to go on the water if you want to beat gasoline or diesel my friends.

@yachtandseatv7160

Жыл бұрын

This is a statistic, nothing more. you're one of those people who does a lot of sailing, bravo!

@jamesdonaghy9143

4 ай бұрын

Right, but... there will come a day when the electric hp is cheaper than the gas hp. Last year the battery KWH halved in price and will reduce by 40% this year. Once tech is learned, it's there for ever. The future is electric.

@ct1762

4 ай бұрын

@@jamesdonaghy9143 umm no. one again its a matter of range and weight. both things batteries will never be nearly as good at on a weight sensitive high load scenario. can get away with this in a car, but not a boat or an aircraft. the negatives are just too insurmountable for the forseeable future. im not sure what you mean by price being down 40%... your saying the price of electric outboards are down 40%? impossible. and again, where are you charging on the water for the vast majority that doesnt have a private dock/shore power?

@jamesdonaghy9143

4 ай бұрын

@ct1762 The price reductions I mentioned concern battery units, which will eventually translate into outboard prices. The wind and solar sources are also improving in watts per dollar and watts per Kilo, with no clear limits established, going forward. Cases where fossil fuels are the smart choice will diminish going forward until they become obsolete, a happy prospect for all biological entities.