Virtual Reality Engineer Explains One Concept in 5 Levels of Difficulty | WIRED

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The technology behind modern virtual reality is rapidly evolving, but what exactly helps create a better sense of realism and immersion? WIRED has challenged Oculus CTO John Carmack to explain the concept of realism in virtual reality to 5 different people; a child, a pre-teen, a college student, a grad student and a VR expert. John goes over what makes his company's product, the Oculus Rift, so successful at creating convincing VR, as well as the initial hesitance to introduce the lower-powered Gear VR into the market.
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  • @dishakarim9242
    @dishakarim92426 жыл бұрын

    Mentioning John Carmack as just a Virtual Reality Engineer is the understatement of the millennium.

  • @charnielduterte3796

    @charnielduterte3796

    5 жыл бұрын

    ikr it's like tagging a veteran as a smelly old person with ptsd

  • @UnchainedEruption

    @UnchainedEruption

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well they do say "Oculus CTO" in description, not just a VR Engineer, but yeah, still an understatement. I was confused at first. Isn't this John Carmack--THE John Carmack, founder of id Software and creator of Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake, etc.?

  • @tdelfino2509

    @tdelfino2509

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean, for better or worse, that's basically all he's doing now. Besides, he's not here to talk about Wolfenstein or Doom or Quake, he's here to talk about VR.

  • @mistermaker8374

    @mistermaker8374

    5 жыл бұрын

    When John Carmack walks into the room you need a trumpeter. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJ94kq-xfrzFcto.html

  • @reactnativetutorial651

    @reactnativetutorial651

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to like this but let's just keep it at 666 in honor of ID :)

  • @RooboliusBrandybuck
    @RooboliusBrandybuck5 жыл бұрын

    I clicked on this video because I wanted to see John Carmack attempt to talk to a child.

  • @seasesh4073

    @seasesh4073

    4 жыл бұрын

    Last time he did he almost got locked up lol

  • @skyr3x

    @skyr3x

    4 жыл бұрын

    OR IN MINECRAFT

  • @brendanbarnard

    @brendanbarnard

    4 жыл бұрын

    I loveJohn Carmack. I didnt look at the thumbnail before clicking on the video and when I saw it was him I got a million times more interested

  • @CanonOfArun

    @CanonOfArun

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @YamilGonzales

    @YamilGonzales

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha he lost the kid in like 20 seconds

  • @Air51
    @Air514 жыл бұрын

    He lost the 9 year old pretending to be a 5 year old at... "static.."

  • @TotalGAMIX

    @TotalGAMIX

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol yes no way that is a 5 year old

  • @raidone7413

    @raidone7413

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ikr static is not in elementary schoolers vocab

  • @ayszhang

    @ayszhang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was thinking the exact same thing 😂

  • @eternalglow6483

    @eternalglow6483

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gavin Innes Haha You guys act like 5 year olds are running around in diapers drinking out of sippy cups lol. They are a lot smarter than you are giving them credit for, my nephew is 5 and he’s a lot like the kid in the video.

  • @Ukitsu2

    @Ukitsu2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or at "intended".

  • @pongopea
    @pongopea2 жыл бұрын

    fun fact for those who don’t know John Carmack: as a child, him and other children used thermite to break into their school to steal a computer, after being arrested and being mentally evaluated by a professional, John was described as a “brain on legs” him saying he’s “just” a VR engineer is basically saying a Navy Seal is just a cop

  • @nope9310

    @nope9310

    Жыл бұрын

    *is just the bouncer at a chess tournament.

  • @zackwumpus9364

    @zackwumpus9364

    Жыл бұрын

    false, he later admitteded it was far more basic.

  • @pongopea

    @pongopea

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zackwumpus9364 🤓

  • @AlphaEnt2
    @AlphaEnt26 жыл бұрын

    VR Engineer? That's John f---ing Carmack

  • @StereoBucket

    @StereoBucket

    5 жыл бұрын

    The title is for SEO I believe, if you're looking for VR videos, with this title you're more likely to come across it rather than if it said "John Carmack Explains One Concept..." instead.

  • @Blake4014

    @Blake4014

    5 жыл бұрын

    He built the FPS genre and even dabbled in space engineering. Imagine what he could do if he chose to put his talents into AI development.

  • @charnielduterte3796

    @charnielduterte3796

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Blake4014 we already have elon musk lol

  • @beProsto

    @beProsto

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@charnielduterte3796 Elon musk haven't did a thing in this way. John Carmack did.

  • @beProsto

    @beProsto

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Freddie Green He is John f---ing Carmack.

  • @timleonard2668
    @timleonard26685 жыл бұрын

    "John Carmack explains 5 different concepts at the equal levels of difficulty"

  • @Painang89

    @Painang89

    3 жыл бұрын

    Child = " I'm too young to die " Teen = " Hey, not too rough " Colleges Student = " Hurt me plenty " Grad Student = " Ultra-Violence " Expert = " Nightmare! "

  • @nomadine85

    @nomadine85

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is the perfect comment. Thanks. That’s exactly what he’s doing.

  • @tylerdurden69420
    @tylerdurden694204 жыл бұрын

    "Hi, I'm John Carmack... I'm a VR Engineer" "Hi, I'm John Romero... I'm a video game tester"

  • @mildpotato6895

    @mildpotato6895

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I’m John Quinoas... What would you do?

  • @5udimax

    @5udimax

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Hi, I'm Adrian Carmack...I make art as a hobby"

  • @e2rqey

    @e2rqey

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi I'm Jesus Christ im a carpenter

  • @Miestwin

    @Miestwin

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Hi, I'm Chris Avellone... I'm a consultant" "Hi, I'm Warren Spector... I'm a curriculum creator for UoT"

  • @spectacularpoopfly8464

    @spectacularpoopfly8464

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi I'm Poopfly and I'm.........lonely

  • @illyay1337
    @illyay13375 жыл бұрын

    This title is almost like having like having Bill Gates in the interview and calling it, "Software engineer explains how Windows works". I say almost because, to be fair, more people know of Bill Gates than John Carmack.

  • @-loarado

    @-loarado

    4 жыл бұрын

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  • @charvikripalani2270

    @charvikripalani2270

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@-loarado ...why...just...why?!

  • @unavailable2516

    @unavailable2516

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@-loarado are you high???

  • @Spellweaver5

    @Spellweaver5

    4 жыл бұрын

    Doom used to be installed on more computers than Windows once so I wouldn't be so sure.

  • @cryptohello7666

    @cryptohello7666

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Spellweaver5 in this day and age its not even a competition bill wins it

  • @PeterDanielBerg
    @PeterDanielBerg6 жыл бұрын

    Can you get Stephen King to explain fear at five different levels of difficulty?

  • @yashwinning

    @yashwinning

    6 жыл бұрын

    It'd be a pretty short video. King would just say "boo" at 5 different levels of intensity

  • @HiddenKenshin

    @HiddenKenshin

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'd guess he'd just stop at four and give enough nightmare fuel to imagine number 5 yourself.

  • @Spacio4321

    @Spacio4321

    6 жыл бұрын

    Peter Daniel Berg Better get a psychologist for that.

  • @suicidalbanananana

    @suicidalbanananana

    6 жыл бұрын

    News flash: stephen king died decades ago and over half 'his' books are not his.

  • @2ManArmy16

    @2ManArmy16

    6 жыл бұрын

    Isnt this the Stephen king of virtual reality?🤔

  • @ywjsiabvue
    @ywjsiabvue6 жыл бұрын

    The kid's face is like, "What the fuck is he saying? I just play Minecraft"

  • @namewastaken360
    @namewastaken3605 жыл бұрын

    Hi I'm John Carmack, I'm the chief technology officer for Oculus AND I MADE DOOM!

  • @PeterTrapasso

    @PeterTrapasso

    5 жыл бұрын

    namewastaken360 and Quake!

  • @filiplaskovski9993

    @filiplaskovski9993

    4 жыл бұрын

    Peter Trapasso and the first ever game engine !!!!!!!!!

  • @christiancrawford4830

    @christiancrawford4830

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yikes lol

  • @ErebuBat

    @ErebuBat

    4 жыл бұрын

    And let’s not forget the entire FPS genre

  • @thepotatoof4219

    @thepotatoof4219

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PeterTrapasso Quake was made by Romero.

  • @pectoralismajor1097
    @pectoralismajor10974 жыл бұрын

    Carmack talking to a Child: "Alright, let me tell you about Quantum Fields and Proton Decay to get the Basics out of the way"

  • @Ashley-1917

    @Ashley-1917

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...Protons decay??

  • @vindieu

    @vindieu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ashley-1917 well in radioactivity, atoms lose neutrons don't they, so the atom after decay is left with its protons. idk ... ok just googled it, it seems that proton decay, is a thing indeed, but it's theoretical and is about sub-proton breakup en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_decay

  • @Ashley-1917

    @Ashley-1917

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vindieu Wow that's pretty neat- I had no idea. Though it seems that while it could be possible, it is exceedingly rare, as the half-life of a proton is set to be 1.67*10^34, which I think is safe to say is essentially forever.

  • @chunkylover5367
    @chunkylover53676 жыл бұрын

    I love how in level 1 and 2, he's still using complex words and the kids have no clue what he's talking about.

  • @ricksanchez8584

    @ricksanchez8584

    5 жыл бұрын

    Right? The kid looked at him like "wtf is a hardware?"

  • @identiticrisis

    @identiticrisis

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kids understand far more than they can explain to anyone. Like the way you can understand a fancy speech, or some foreign words, but couldn't (necessarily) reproduce any of it yourself.

  • @rinan9598

    @rinan9598

    5 жыл бұрын

    Naw man he said rendering and I was flummoxed for the rest of my life

  • @benjaminchadwick8007

    @benjaminchadwick8007

    4 жыл бұрын

    identiticrisis kinda like how some people could understand a language but not speak in that language?

  • @sirtimatbob

    @sirtimatbob

    4 жыл бұрын

    He threw in a "static" as well and I'm not sure the kid knew what it meant, but it's ok. He did amazing. John Carmack is a legend in my books.

  • @philipgodsworth4764
    @philipgodsworth47646 жыл бұрын

    Referring to John Carmack, the father of shooters, as a virtual reality engineer throws me off a bit.

  • @agamaz5650

    @agamaz5650

    5 жыл бұрын

    I KNOW RIGHT. I was like OMGGG that is john carmack

  • @schplorgus8140

    @schplorgus8140

    5 жыл бұрын

    remember that he was a programmer exploring new areas of technology; he's doing the same now romero is more of a father of shooters, since he actually designed them

  • @denisblack9897

    @denisblack9897

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shooters are the first step, actually

  • @GroinMischief

    @GroinMischief

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm still playing Quake 1 today. It's not for nostalgia kicks, I just haven't been able to move on.

  • @zyloctal

    @zyloctal

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shooters are so natural in VR, so it makes sense that He went toward this tech.

  • @Neutronic01
    @Neutronic014 жыл бұрын

    "Or in Minecraft" Ah, I see you're a child of culture as well

  • @phan_8762

    @phan_8762

    4 жыл бұрын

    cringe

  • @Neutronic01

    @Neutronic01

    4 жыл бұрын

    phan wants waffles Ah, you must play Fortnite

  • @phan_8762

    @phan_8762

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Neutronic01 what makes you think

  • @fluzzy4517

    @fluzzy4517

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think you mean man. Once you play Minecraft you become a man regardless of age

  • @TheXGamerNeedsRice

    @TheXGamerNeedsRice

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@phan_8762 people who say "cringe" make me want to slit my wrists

  • @TheJPomp
    @TheJPomp5 жыл бұрын

    Watching Carmack try to talk at a 5-year-old's level made my day.

  • @metfan4l
    @metfan4l6 жыл бұрын

    If someone can figure shit out, it's John Carmack. The technology is in good hands.

  • @TimBurtonTim

    @TimBurtonTim

    6 жыл бұрын

    He was born to solve problems.

  • @imnottyler

    @imnottyler

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ubisoft stay the fuck away from VR

  • @NachtFaenger

    @NachtFaenger

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually Ubisoft is the first big game company to have released VR titles yet, and they are quite good.

  • @Mucker-le6ld

    @Mucker-le6ld

    6 жыл бұрын

    He's nothing but a corporate thief.

  • @carver7585

    @carver7585

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's in good hands, but the demand just doesn't match what the tech companies hoped it would be. VR is cool for a little while, but it's not something that people want to use all the time, it's a novelty that wears off pretty fast. A year or so ago I would have said that VR is going to basically replace your TV and computer monitor completely. Now I don't think thats the case at all. I think VR is going to end up being more along the lines of surround sound systems for entertainment. They are cool and work pretty well, but the amount of consumers who really care enough about it to spend the money and do the setup is always going to be a small set of people. Not too long ago everyone was talking about how amazing VR is going to be and they were genuinely telling you what could happen in the future. But now, the people who are talking up VR are just the people trying to sell you products and services.

  • @Frisenette
    @Frisenette6 жыл бұрын

    No way is that a five year old.

  • @locust76

    @locust76

    6 жыл бұрын

    I know, right? Kid's fuckin' huge...

  • @Frisenette

    @Frisenette

    6 жыл бұрын

    Salamihawk, not only that, he also acts and talks nothing like any five year old I’ve ever seen. Wonder why they felt the need to lie about his age?

  • @ernestmac13

    @ernestmac13

    6 жыл бұрын

    Have you considered he meant 5th grader, but no one noticed the mistake until after they released the video; you do realize such things happen all the time right?

  • @Skyrilla

    @Skyrilla

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's just the current generation's stock, man. They look, think, talk and act a decade older than what they really are. Blame society, the internet, growth hormones in our mass produced food and the fact that the bad guys won WW2.

  • @jose4343

    @jose4343

    6 жыл бұрын

    Skyrilla hope thats a joke.

  • @theodyssey9177
    @theodyssey91774 жыл бұрын

    What are the parents feeding that “5 year old”

  • @psychowordsmith

    @psychowordsmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    Elk meat.

  • @fabclark123

    @fabclark123

    4 жыл бұрын

    green berets

  • @ahm6006

    @ahm6006

    4 жыл бұрын

    This was funnier then it should've been.

  • @Silverfirefly1

    @Silverfirefly1

    3 жыл бұрын

    It looks more like they took a 5 year old... and then fed it to their son.

  • @type-moonfag4413

    @type-moonfag4413

    3 жыл бұрын

    Doom

  • @WarrenKLiu
    @WarrenKLiu5 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack is the father of real time 3D graphics... calling him a VR engineer is a freaking insult.

  • @bernardusmuller1109

    @bernardusmuller1109

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is currently the most important thing in VR? Real time 3D graphics...

  • @bernardusmuller1109

    @bernardusmuller1109

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anyway he left Oculus and VR now, to do something more interesting!

  • @monad_tcp

    @monad_tcp

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bernardusmuller1109 rockets?

  • @bernardusmuller1109

    @bernardusmuller1109

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@monad_tcp No general artificial intelligence.

  • @thepotatoof4219

    @thepotatoof4219

    4 жыл бұрын

    What's real time 3D graphics?

  • @Samouraii
    @Samouraii6 жыл бұрын

    Cormack used to do 3 hour speeches about the future of video game technology at Quakecon. What a legend

  • @Clavus

    @Clavus

    6 жыл бұрын

    He still holds unscripted speeches, under a bit stricter timeslot, at Oculus Connect each year. You can find them on Oculus' channel. Still the same Carmack as always.

  • @Antilles1974

    @Antilles1974

    6 жыл бұрын

    Was he as boring then as he is now? Cause this put me to sleep (and I'm a gamer).

  • @Oogidahboogidah

    @Oogidahboogidah

    6 жыл бұрын

    Antilles1974 if you were a real gamer you’d know that this man is worth listening to. He’s clearly dumbing this down for the kids.

  • @LazyBastard69

    @LazyBastard69

    6 жыл бұрын

    If you were a true scotsman, you'de be eating haggis right now +Raskolnikov1227

  • @Phoen1x883

    @Phoen1x883

    6 жыл бұрын

    No True Scotsmaning aside, he's right about Carmack. Put aside the group membership arguments and give this guy some time to talk, because he has spent multiple decades working with the nitty gritty details of the industry, and he has some really interesting insight on the technical details of tomorrow's games and the technology that powers them.

  • @reinehahaha000
    @reinehahaha0006 жыл бұрын

    You sure the boy is 5 years old and not a 5th grader?

  • @ronindebeatrice

    @ronindebeatrice

    6 жыл бұрын

    bambiplushie Wouldn't he and the girl be roughly the same age then?

  • @txi_xecute9277

    @txi_xecute9277

    6 жыл бұрын

    ronindebeatrice no, she would be in 7th or 8th grade

  • @ashleyking2791

    @ashleyking2791

    6 жыл бұрын

    Th3 Ånønÿmøüš No, 5th grade is 10 years old. Your 13/14 years old in 8th grade.

  • @marcopolo3001

    @marcopolo3001

    6 жыл бұрын

    The boy is raised on vitamin S

  • @CharlesTheClumsy

    @CharlesTheClumsy

    6 жыл бұрын

    In Sweden people in 5th grade are 11-12

  • @3oxisprimus848
    @3oxisprimus8484 жыл бұрын

    Observe how he relaxes as he goes up the levels

  • @mattd7927
    @mattd79274 жыл бұрын

    The guy makes it possible to kill demons in 3D back in the 90’s and this is the title he gets.

  • @maxniehaus4384
    @maxniehaus43846 жыл бұрын

    What are they feeding that "5 year old"

  • @evilavatarcarmoe6730

    @evilavatarcarmoe6730

    6 жыл бұрын

    Max Niehaus 10th graders

  • @jeremyedombingo

    @jeremyedombingo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Max Niehaus minecraft blocks

  • @haiscore2614

    @haiscore2614

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tipped the feds, go buy your mama a ring and tell her you love her because that'll be the last time hobag

  • @ii4371

    @ii4371

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh boy that's enough YT comment section for today.

  • @g4br9el

    @g4br9el

    6 жыл бұрын

    Knowledge

  • @_moosh
    @_moosh6 жыл бұрын

    "on top of a mountain, or in a dungeon, or under the ocean a-" "OR iN MiNeCraFt" "Yeah, or in minecraft...." I just... I can't...

  • @eplays9521

    @eplays9521

    5 жыл бұрын

    If he was a 30 year old i would understand you not getting it, but he is a kid, he likes Minecraft, videogames and has no preoccupations whatsoever besides school, get over it.

  • @5e2c467cebac

    @5e2c467cebac

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@eplays9521 right? I seriously don't understand why people get so butthurt about this.

  • @txicthmas1007

    @txicthmas1007

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@eplays9521 relax, it was a joke. It was funny. Theres nothing to get over. Just a tonal shift that was comically timed. Nothing to get defensive or angry about pal.

  • @eplays9521

    @eplays9521

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tøxic Thømas Im just saying it man. Not offending anyone, or getting to defensive. The thing is these people making fun of a KID for liking minecraft makes them look un mature and they end up looking edgier than they think.

  • @txicthmas1007

    @txicthmas1007

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@eplays9521 no, see you're misunderstanding why it's funny. He isn't making fun of the kid for making minecraft, that isn't the point. It's funny because the guy is like "in vr you can be on top of a mountain, exploring a dangerous cave or even explore the vast underwater and-" and the kid interrupts him with "and minecraft!"

  • @ArquimedesOfficial
    @ArquimedesOfficial4 жыл бұрын

    The right title should be : "Programming god Explains..."

  • @YaroLord

    @YaroLord

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or just "John Carmack speaking with mortals about VR"

  • @Estorium

    @Estorium

    4 жыл бұрын

    God speaks to mortals.

  • @conodigrom
    @conodigrom5 жыл бұрын

    1. When JOHN CARMACK is in your video, your title says "JOHN CARMACK", not some generic job title!

  • @Captain.Fantastic
    @Captain.Fantastic6 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack is really struggling to explain VR in "simple terms" to that first kid.

  • @mattlang5194

    @mattlang5194

    4 жыл бұрын

    He didn't do a great job of explaining it to both of the first kids. The girl was nodding but he talked about rendering and concepts that were almost definitely above her knowledge level.

  • @X606

    @X606

    4 жыл бұрын

    How to explain vr to a kid: Magic box glasses that make you see other worlds

  • @unknownunknowns

    @unknownunknowns

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you can’t explain your job to a kid, then how can you understand your job at all? The simplicity is the foundation to the complex.

  • @aguy5353

    @aguy5353

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@unknownunknowns I just think he is not very good at talking to kids. He likes his big words

  • @unknownunknowns

    @unknownunknowns

    4 жыл бұрын

    Minemare535 Yes and that’s the thing. You got to be able to summarize your job since jobs have a specific goal to achieve.

  • @etnm17
    @etnm176 жыл бұрын

    They actually met John fucking Carmack.

  • @Isoquant
    @Isoquant4 жыл бұрын

    Came here to see if John Carmack was capable of communicating with a child.

  • @pavelh756
    @pavelh7565 жыл бұрын

    "Virtual Reality Engineer"? His name is John Carmack, that's a title by itself :-D

  • @-loarado

    @-loarado

    4 жыл бұрын

    *_Уes_*

  • @nathanrandomized3593

    @nathanrandomized3593

    3 жыл бұрын

    Better title "We put John Carmack in this video"

  • @gc8972b

    @gc8972b

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really think John is fine with that description. It doesn't matter. Hold your egos my brothers

  • @karlkastor
    @karlkastor6 жыл бұрын

    child: knows the concept of VR pre-teen: gets taught one possible improvement college student: knows how it gets realistic grad student: Hears the word realism and starts talking about the art movement of realism. (Okay, she does get how sound helps immersion) VR expert: Listens and promotes his game (the point about similified grafics is good, though)

  • @travisfahs6519
    @travisfahs65196 жыл бұрын

    The kid at the beginning and the guy at the end are the same person. Carmack talks a long time.

  • @akramsergewa1016
    @akramsergewa10164 жыл бұрын

    The next episode starring Bill gates is titled "IT Guy Explains One Concept in 5 Levels"

  • @ElectronIsABadTuber
    @ElectronIsABadTuber4 жыл бұрын

    *sees Virtual Reality Engineer* “Oh, yeah, that’s coo-“ *sees the father of the FPS himself, mr John Carmack* “YES... YES... YESSSSSSS!”

  • @PKAmedia

    @PKAmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    When I say VR in the title I literally squinted at the thumbnail, and was like noooo it couldn't be could it. As soon as I saw it was, just the fastest click.

  • @danielmorales4351
    @danielmorales43516 жыл бұрын

    girl came in like she was there for an interview

  • @mrabythomas

    @mrabythomas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Morales hey you never know she might get hired by John Carmack

  • @TheSleathable

    @TheSleathable

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sickening wasn't it

  • @caniscerulean

    @caniscerulean

    5 жыл бұрын

    They forced me to take art history classes for a STEM major, so I'm gonna shoehorn realism vs romanticism into a discussion about VR and hope he hires me so I can pay off this student debt.

  • @DoubleDOwnage

    @DoubleDOwnage

    5 жыл бұрын

    Crazier things have happened. If they told me I was going to sit down with John Carmack I might also dress to impress and brush up on his likes/dislikes.

  • @bork470

    @bork470

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@caniscerulean yeah forreal, it was such an out of pocket response that was so unnecessarily off topic

  • @djorphic
    @djorphic6 жыл бұрын

    "5 year old" lol. Can confirm, the person that captioned that does not have kids.

  • @HandledToaster2

    @HandledToaster2

    4 жыл бұрын

    My brother is 7 and he is about half the size of this kid

  • @natsuki4021

    @natsuki4021

    4 жыл бұрын

    They might have meant 5th grader or something.

  • @jimsmith3715

    @jimsmith3715

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ive seen some gigsntic kids before

  • @NoFeckingNamesLeft

    @NoFeckingNamesLeft

    4 жыл бұрын

    5 year old giant. Nowhere in the vid does it say he's a human, don't just assume someone's species next time.

  • @ChildofIcarus
    @ChildofIcarus4 жыл бұрын

    The grad student was in interview mode. Good for her.

  • @henryambrose8607
    @henryambrose86075 жыл бұрын

    You can't just downgrade John Freaking Carmack to "VR Engineer."

  • @PixelThorn

    @PixelThorn

    4 жыл бұрын

    "some guy explains VR to..."

  • @user-zm1xc9tx2b
    @user-zm1xc9tx2b6 жыл бұрын

    Attention span: kid - short, preteen - shortest, college student - medium, grad student - long, expert - longest, John Carmack - indefinite

  • @wille7319

    @wille7319

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think the kid had really good attention span. He probably couldn't understand much of what Carmack was talking about, yet he kept eye contact and listened.

  • @gogyoo

    @gogyoo

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack - god mode. FTFY

  • @steve00alt70

    @steve00alt70

    6 жыл бұрын

    The college boy is small?

  • @highonheroin5352

    @highonheroin5352

    5 жыл бұрын

    His attention span is infinite because he understands like everything it seems lmao.

  • @ashishjog
    @ashishjog5 жыл бұрын

    John : Do You know what Virtual Reality is!? Zachlewis : Yes, it's simple! - Zachlewis, 2017

  • @TomH2681
    @TomH26814 жыл бұрын

    0:25 If that teenager is 5 years old, then I'm the Queen of England.

  • @alexiabastian4871

    @alexiabastian4871

    3 жыл бұрын

    2:14 pre -teen

  • @speedsterh

    @speedsterh

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean you're dead ?

  • @scoreman
    @scoreman4 жыл бұрын

    7:51 Mari: So I think those are pretty- Mari's brain: *Don't say 'cool' in front of John Carmack and the world* Mari: ...significant. Mari's brain: 🙂

  • @sageinit

    @sageinit

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @leodahvee
    @leodahvee6 жыл бұрын

    Now explain Quantum mechanics to 5 year olds

  • @badoli1074

    @badoli1074

    6 жыл бұрын

    No real challenge for a Carmack.

  • @philv2529

    @philv2529

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't think anyone can explain Quantum mechanics to anyone. Some physicist once said something to the effect of, "Only three people on the planet really understand quantum mechanics....and I'm not too sure about one of them."

  • @wedmunds

    @wedmunds

    6 жыл бұрын

    "Can you imagine a field of science so abstract and exotic that nearly no living scientist can fully understand it? That's quantum mechanics."

  • @weskergeorge97

    @weskergeorge97

    6 жыл бұрын

    If Feynman was still alive it would be easy for him

  • @miniyodadude6604

    @miniyodadude6604

    5 жыл бұрын

    so everything in the world is made out of these small dots called atoms

  • @AKAMustang
    @AKAMustang6 жыл бұрын

    Level 1: Ooohh a shinny thing Level 2: This old guy is weird Level 3: Holy shit balls, it's John Carmack! Level 4: Blah blah blah, boring irrelevance Level 5: Give us the good hardware already

  • @Siraj75

    @Siraj75

    5 жыл бұрын

    I concur, don't know what garbage Level 4 was spewing!!! Level 1 pretty much nailed-it for me.

  • @bernardodc9631

    @bernardodc9631

    5 жыл бұрын

    Level 4 was good man. Was like I know more than you

  • @aaaab384

    @aaaab384

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork Worst thing, she didn't even have anything on her chest to look at while she talked nonsense. Completely useless chick, make him a sandwich or GTFO.

  • @yuhboi3968

    @yuhboi3968

    5 жыл бұрын

    aa LMAO GAHDAYUM

  • @theguardian8317

    @theguardian8317

    5 жыл бұрын

    Level 1: the kid is thinking: this guy is borring and talks too much. All I want is to play minecraft Level 4: Carmack iis thinking: this person is so borring and talks too much. All she wants is to be noticed

  • @DoggyP00
    @DoggyP005 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack explain 5 different concepts to 5 different people

  • @lethalbroccoli01

    @lethalbroccoli01

    4 жыл бұрын

    At the same difficulty!

  • @theopenrift
    @theopenrift4 жыл бұрын

    Watching John Carmack explain virtual reality to a child melts my heart. As an Id software fanboy, this is perfect.

  • @Solaar_Punk

    @Solaar_Punk

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @CharlesTheClumsy
    @CharlesTheClumsy6 жыл бұрын

    Is that the kid from "Up"?

  • @defaulte_

    @defaulte_

    6 жыл бұрын

    Charlie Clumsy Oh my god it is, you have opened my eyes.

  • @Mordeable

    @Mordeable

    6 жыл бұрын

    R U S S E L L

  • @FLORESCREATES

    @FLORESCREATES

    6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing LMAO

  • @gerbilpmc

    @gerbilpmc

    6 жыл бұрын

    The kid looks so much older than 5

  • @LastvanLichtenGlorie

    @LastvanLichtenGlorie

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's because he is 11.

  • @multipurposepaperbox
    @multipurposepaperbox4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh, I can tell this Grad Student's brain is THICC

  • @dandyroth
    @dandyroth4 жыл бұрын

    "Oh cool a pre-teen, I can finally step up to foveated rendering"

  • @StarryShaw
    @StarryShaw5 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Carmack talk for hours. This guy is like the Albert Einstein of Hardware.

  • @fikayoadele7679

    @fikayoadele7679

    Жыл бұрын

    Albert Einstein of programming

  • @hanssondaniel
    @hanssondaniel6 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Carmack talk about tech all day!

  • @Pandhermonium
    @Pandhermonium6 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack is a legend. Doom/Quake were great!

  • @Mushe94

    @Mushe94

    5 жыл бұрын

    are*

  • @sundarchip

    @sundarchip

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget Wolfenstein :)

  • @GroinMischief

    @GroinMischief

    5 жыл бұрын

    Still playing Quake 1 today, modern maps and mods are awesome

  • @anmolchauhan9513
    @anmolchauhan95134 жыл бұрын

    When I read the title, I thought it would be some random VR engineer. But it's freaking John Carmack!!

  • @Crushenator500
    @Crushenator5004 жыл бұрын

    "VR Engineer" lmfao I added this video to my watch list like 2 months ago. If I realized it was John Carmack I would have watched it instantly. The man is a living legend.

  • @williamb1933
    @williamb19336 жыл бұрын

    Carmack is not just a VR engineer, he's an absolute legend, one of the best engineers of all time!

  • @torpedex4600
    @torpedex46006 жыл бұрын

    this style of interview is genius

  • @robertforster8984
    @robertforster89844 жыл бұрын

    That “VR engineer” is the legendary John Carmack!

  • @xfox360
    @xfox3605 жыл бұрын

    "Or in minecraft?" Thanks god that he didnt say fortnite

  • @a.wosaibi

    @a.wosaibi

    4 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly!!😂😂

  • @JoseRivera-rl3qv

    @JoseRivera-rl3qv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thats would be bad

  • @dustnoiseplays

    @dustnoiseplays

    4 жыл бұрын

    BIG BRAIN

  • @BrushEm

    @BrushEm

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes fOrtNiTE bAD

  • @andrewmly9834

    @andrewmly9834

    4 жыл бұрын

    fortnite bad minecraft good. laugh.

  • @Xweapon9099
    @Xweapon90996 жыл бұрын

    This was fun, but as a challenge I feel like he kinda failed with the kids lol. I consider my 5 year to be pretty bright and that would have flown over his head until he said, like your in Minecraft. Also ultra jelly to see a OCC student get to talk to John

  • @WorthlessDeadEnd

    @WorthlessDeadEnd

    5 жыл бұрын

    I hear what you're saying, but John was just being himself. He wasn't bullshitting the little boy. He probably doesn't know how to communicate with five year olds, and at John's genius level IQ, speaking tech language on a level the five year old would understand would have been almost impossible.

  • @Valentyn90A

    @Valentyn90A

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WorthlessDeadEnd Right. A genius which doesn't know how to communicate with give year olds. That's not what being a genius is. You're overthinking it.

  • @grab9940

    @grab9940

    4 жыл бұрын

    i think the problem is that kid wasnt 5 lol

  • @josonic

    @josonic

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought the opposite. I thought this was the first one of these where it wasn't too dumbed down for the kids. Seemed like the perfect description to me for that level.

  • @swinny_
    @swinny_4 жыл бұрын

    "Virtual Reality Engineer" That John Carmack you peasant!

  • @kawamikazecheant
    @kawamikazecheant Жыл бұрын

    I'm only at the " Child part ", but I already love how he doesn't talk to him with a patronizing tone, which is not always the case when an adult explains something to a child, knowing stuff is great, but taking time to share a vision with a neophyte is priceless 🔥

  • @kainuipenaloza9395
    @kainuipenaloza93954 жыл бұрын

    5:25 *HERE'S A GOOD LESSON IN TRICKERY*

  • @RenamedChannel
    @RenamedChannel6 жыл бұрын

    "Virtual Reality Engineer"? Thats John Carmack, you fools.

  • @dontlookmeup090
    @dontlookmeup0906 жыл бұрын

    No way this kid is 5 year old LOL XD

  • @averyb8848
    @averyb88484 жыл бұрын

    His voice makes me wanna clear my throat

  • @-loarado

    @-loarado

    4 жыл бұрын

    *_Уes_*

  • @GuitarHooker
    @GuitarHooker4 жыл бұрын

    10:18 - 10:55 That's some really interesting insight. Seems like a terrific thing to be aware of while in an immerging field. I know this was two years ago and Valve is now also find meaning ways to push this medium, but I'm excited to see how Oculus competes with Valve. I want to say Valve is in the lead in both the engineering aspect and in the aspect of providing consumers with a meaningful experience. I'm not too certain about how the Index HMD is pushing the envelope, but the potential for unique experiences to be had with the Index knuckles seems very high. It seems that Half-Life Alyx and Boneworks will serve as some of the experiences that will bring meaningful experiences that inspire other develops to emulate the same while adding their own spin on things. I'm pumped to see what comes of this. The applications for storytelling in conjunction with other mediums also seems pretty interesting. This video is some great food for thought. Thanks for the solid content! 👌👌

  • @zakattak80

    @zakattak80

    4 жыл бұрын

    technologically valve is ahead, but Oculus is trying to make it for the average house hold with the quest. This well make it easier to justify more and bigger projects.

  • @centauridev

    @centauridev

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zakattak80 I disagree. Oculus is way ahead in some ways while valve is in others. Its true what you say, that oculus is making it come out to the everyday user. And valve is more high end and "next gen" Oculus tried to make it more mainstream with the quest for example. And that in its own is just as technologically advanced as the valve index. Getting games to run 72hz on a last Gen processor is quite the achievement. And the fact that they have made an incredible inside out tracking system, really puts oculus just as far ahead as valve.

  • @NicolayGiraldo

    @NicolayGiraldo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Carmack can probably fit better with Valve than working for Facebook.

  • @GuitarHooker

    @GuitarHooker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NicolayGiraldo I totally agree. With Valve working on BCI stuff now, I bet Carmack would be a perfect fit for those goals

  • @420happyhippy
    @420happyhippy6 жыл бұрын

    This needs to be a new, weekly show: Experts Explain With 5 Levels!!!

  • @Benjam901
    @Benjam9016 жыл бұрын

    That kid has no idea who he is talking to...so jealous right now

  • @ronindebeatrice

    @ronindebeatrice

    6 жыл бұрын

    Benjam901 The oldest people in this video were toddlers when doom launched. Edit: My mistake, Aaron and I were probably both playing Quake on our Pentiums at the same time.

  • @marinellovragovic1207

    @marinellovragovic1207

    5 жыл бұрын

    I saw the dozens of comments talking about this guy being famous. I never heard about this guy, nor did I ever see him. I'm 19 just to clarify.

  • @ojojoj9579

    @ojojoj9579

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@marinellovragovic1207 John Carmack, founder of the true 3d fps genre and pioneer of modern game design is one of the most influencial figures in gaming predating Gabe Newell. If it weren't for John Carmack we would never have had DOOM, if we never had DOOM we wouldn't have had Quake, without quake there would be no half life. If you don't understand the importance of half life to the future of video game development then you should really look into it.

  • @marinellovragovic1207

    @marinellovragovic1207

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ojojoj9579 well I've never played Half-Life, though I've heard a few dozens of times how far ahead of its time it was. The importance of this game for the videogame industry is news to me though... Guess I'm too young to know that :P

  • @miguelpereira9859

    @miguelpereira9859

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@marinellovragovic1207 John Carmack is most likely the most important game developer ever, perhaps second only to Shigeru Myamoto

  • @lwwells
    @lwwells5 жыл бұрын

    Such and understatement to refer to this man as a “VR engineer”.

  • @thrwawyacct
    @thrwawyacct5 жыл бұрын

    Computing < Art. I am very amazed at how little modern VR relies on mathematics and physics and optics, and how much is invested in animation and art at every microsecond of experience. Sometimes I convince myself that I am sitting at a machine for weeks while the image updates and the next frame comes in, in some kind of temporal stasis, and wonder at how old and outdated my simple body has become. I am an artifact, and these machines have mothballed me.

  • @llawliet2310
    @llawliet23105 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see this sort of video for abstract subjects like mathematics. Explaining things like teichmüller theory or simplectic geometry or one of the millennium prize problems at different levels would be such a neat thing to do.

  • @OldBrutus
    @OldBrutus6 жыл бұрын

    What the hell is going on with the audio in this? There's some kind of background thumping just a deep bass, is this intentional?

  • @Arcvnum

    @Arcvnum

    6 жыл бұрын

    BrutusIL Its some slow techno beat.

  • @newsnowlincanparkproducshu5409

    @newsnowlincanparkproducshu5409

    6 жыл бұрын

    Next time put on a legit reference set of headphones instead of Dre Beats, you'll hear the actual intended amount of bass instead of a falsely ramped up Bass EQ.

  • @Helyx525

    @Helyx525

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its some kind of bass drum beat but its out of phase (left +, right -) which is really uncomfortable in the bass range. Somebody screwed up.

  • @AGoldSoldier

    @AGoldSoldier

    6 жыл бұрын

    NewsNow! LincanParkProducshuns 3:44 No, it's just a really weird drum beat that keeps changing location (if you're wearing decent headphones. Also, I'm am not personally wearing beats, I have a pair of Sony headphones, so it's not exclusively from Beats' EQs) Don't act so high and mighty, it's a legitimate complaint.

  • @sawtooth3490

    @sawtooth3490

    6 жыл бұрын

    ikr, sounds like the 5 year old got bored and started running around, couldn't finish the video

  • @tgreaux5027
    @tgreaux50274 жыл бұрын

    When this kid grows up hes going to eventually realize he was able to meet and speak to a living god. Long live John Carmack! Build to the bone baby!!!!!!!!

  • @Mate_Antal_Zoltan

    @Mate_Antal_Zoltan

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if this was your intention, but "Build to the bone" implies that he made the Build engine, which he definitely didn't make

  • @MrFunny-gq8gu
    @MrFunny-gq8gu4 жыл бұрын

    He is *THE* John Carmack, and you are just calling a VR engineer? I am offended! lol

  • @wouldntyouliketoknow5064
    @wouldntyouliketoknow50645 жыл бұрын

    _Virtual Reality Engineer_ That's not just a "Virtual Reality Engineer" That's John Flippin' Carmack!! :O

  • @gta5thglife292
    @gta5thglife2926 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack thank you for making Doom and thanks also goes to the people in id

  • @kingcrimson234

    @kingcrimson234

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Romero was the creative genius behind Doom. John Carmack was the everything-else genius that actually made it possible.

  • @thepotatoof4219

    @thepotatoof4219

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kingcrimson234 John Romero was the genius behind Quake. Doom was created by all four of them, but Quake was mostly done by Romero and Adrian.

  • @wal_rider8479
    @wal_rider84794 жыл бұрын

    As 15yo, I felt very proud for understanding all the terms and logic behind what he was talking on all levels.

  • @colonelccccc
    @colonelccccc5 жыл бұрын

    You could have put in the title JOHN CARMACK FFS he's a legend ! John Carmack explains...

  • @captainjurgh8142
    @captainjurgh81426 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack is a GEEK... ... We should listen to and admire for ages!! Love ya, Carmack.

  • @hybby
    @hybby6 жыл бұрын

    I like how he said "Buy back into optimization". There's a lot of bloat in many facets of games/dev/mem usage. Back in the day, programmers had to be so diligent about optimizing the heck out of their programs, because the memory limit was so low, as well as low processing speed. He's right. We're going to hit the upper limit soon. Hmm.... perhaps I oughta follow that inner push into programming, and start off with an optimizing mindset :)

  • @spaceman-pe5je

    @spaceman-pe5je

    5 жыл бұрын

    do it!

  • @lathedon1902
    @lathedon19024 жыл бұрын

    My heart melted when he said, "Or in Minecraft"

  • @schonerwissen2013
    @schonerwissen20135 жыл бұрын

    I just love John Carmack. Shaped my childhood..

  • @mahic98
    @mahic986 жыл бұрын

    Wtf why did they just say virtual reality engineer and not Video Game Developer God?

  • @brendanbarnard

    @brendanbarnard

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or "The dude that made Doom". I think most people would get the signifigance of that

  • @OneofInfinity.

    @OneofInfinity.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@brendanbarnard Those that grew up in the 80's need no introduction for sure 😄

  • @nathie
    @nathie6 жыл бұрын

    Legend

  • @loganburde2838

    @loganburde2838

    6 жыл бұрын

    indeed

  • @MichaelMichas

    @MichaelMichas

    6 жыл бұрын

    truth, Nathie, truth

  • @42tancho

    @42tancho

    6 жыл бұрын

    Do you have some kind of bot responding to everything vr related?

  • @DJHeroMasta

    @DJHeroMasta

    6 жыл бұрын

    How dare you call Nathie a bot! Shame on you!

  • @42tancho

    @42tancho

    6 жыл бұрын

    DJHeroMasta well it's KZread after all. Staying relevant above all things

  • @PepperElDev
    @PepperElDev4 жыл бұрын

    They may appear to be different stuff but if you think about it, him being the pionner of first person shooter games and also a VR Enginner makes perfect sense when you think those ground-breaking games, when they were released, probably gave a feeling of seeming like a real thing. I mean, you looked through the eyes of the character as if they were yours and moved on a 3D space which is kinda similar to VR experiences even though obviously technology is much more advanced right now and you can do a lot more stuff but when you think about it, it's like a first step on that direction.

  • @Timeyy
    @Timeyy4 жыл бұрын

    John Carmack man is one of the greatest technical minds of our generation

  • @redseve
    @redseve6 жыл бұрын

    That first kid was like dude I have no idea what youre talking about, I just wanna play minecraft

  • @explosiveaddict6939
    @explosiveaddict69394 жыл бұрын

    THE MAN THE MYTH THE JOHN IT'S JOHN CARMACK HIMSELF ALL HAIL TO THEE, GREAT DEITY OF RIP & TEAR

  • @MrCyberamp

    @MrCyberamp

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok dude, take a chill pill.

  • @lethalbroccoli01

    @lethalbroccoli01

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cyberamp your cringe bro.

  • @KopfTrommel

    @KopfTrommel

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Man The Myth... The Virtual Reality Engineer

  • @fuzzydunlop1753

    @fuzzydunlop1753

    4 жыл бұрын

    You mean one of the two Johns.

  • @tristanedwards7302
    @tristanedwards73024 жыл бұрын

    The brief discussion about HRTF was very interesting - I appreciate that Sony is trying to make some strides in this for the mass consumer with the new PlayStation, rather than pigeoning that a new console is just supposed to be about higher resolution textures and more tris on screen still rendering at 30-60fps.

  • @isaacalberda250
    @isaacalberda2504 жыл бұрын

    I think they could build a glove that would be able to solve part of the touch problem. You could have it so it restricts your hand movement in a certain way and puts pressure on the palm of your hand and fingers to simulate a physical object

  • @mikeyyyv3640
    @mikeyyyv36404 жыл бұрын

    Basically: Level one: Infant Level two: larger infant Level three: adult Level four: Larger adult

  • @88predy
    @88predy4 жыл бұрын

    When I saw John Carmack, I was like: "WOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooW!" That man is legend.

  • @ryan.j113
    @ryan.j1134 жыл бұрын

    Eye tracking on a headset like the Quest would be amazing

  • @jaydawg116
    @jaydawg1164 жыл бұрын

    Mr carmack is a friggen wizard. Anyone can program a game with enough time and effort, it’s this man however that’s able to use software trickery to beat modern day hardware limitations. Going all the way back to doom, he coded the game to where your character is actually the individual on the map screen and every line that you passed through on the map would have a numeric value, rendering what we saw as height and depth on the first person display. Freaking amazing!

  • @facuags
    @facuags4 жыл бұрын

    "Virtual Reality Engineer" is a pretty weird way to call the god and creator of the simulation we live in.

  • @KevWebsz
    @KevWebsz6 жыл бұрын

    Bro when she started talking I was like.....wtf is she saying lmao

  • @tekros8481
    @tekros84814 жыл бұрын

    i love John Carmack. thanks for Doom and Quake, man. also, there's something so beautiful and mesmerizing about listening to two experts talk (even if one is God level); even if it's way over my head, I so appreciate the dedication to their craft and subsequent subtlety.

  • @piragnipiragni
    @piragnipiragni Жыл бұрын

    I love how he starts a conversation with a child that everyone can understand and then evolves to a point where with a grad student and the next person you can see they just want to look smart and it ends with a conversation with an expert again at a level of s child because they don't feel the need to prove something.

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