Very Informative video, well produced Thanks!

I am considering purchasing this same kit. Thank you very much for the thorough review, was very helpful.

@OverkillSimulations

Жыл бұрын

You won't regret it... I'm blown away still a week later...

I will keep a keen eye out for the rest of the serie since I have a similar setup. The difference is I have the CM-2 base and MFG Crosswind pedals. Always ready to learn something new about this faboulus gedgets.

Now that I've seen the internals I believe I'll go with a verpil base instead of win wing. Thanks for the awesome video

Thank you very much, I couldn’t really find where to get the software or even how to configure everything, thanks for the help, and save flying!

Congrats, I love my Virpil kit.

@OverkillSimulations

Жыл бұрын

They're incredible... can't take that from them. Like nothing I've used before lol

Pure quality is my first thought. I have no doubt it works as well as it looks. What's not to like, Mike. Slainte 👍❤

I'm glad you're so impressed with the Virpil. I have the same stick with the older cm1 base for three years now and like you, it's a night and day difference to the Warthog stick. What i always hated about the Warthog is that as soon as you move one axis, the other axis lost all centering. I was an avionics tech on the F/A-18A/B for 9 years, the real stick didn't lose roll centering while pulling pitch or vice versa. Also, the amount of force required IRL is huge for full deflection. I'm still using the Warthog throttle, but damn, your video is tempting me to get the Virpil throttle. You should try their ACE pedals as well, they're awesome. Same for the control panel #2.

Fun video! Just FYI…. You can change the cams and springs by removing the bottom plate only. Keeps you from risking damage to the USB pins.

@OverkillSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Good tip! Thanks!

@WhiteHawk77

Жыл бұрын

@@OverkillSimulations Yep, just take the bottom plate, then remove the spring tension bolts or whatever they are called and the arm is made to fold downwards enough to get to the two cam bolts and change the cam, this very design might have something to do with why they went for a single cam per axis design vs the dual cam in the WarBRD, I’m hoping we don’t have the asymmetrical force problem the CM2 had though because of this design in this one or at least it’s not too noticeable.

Thanks buddy!

1:06:49. Correction, the different springs deal with the pressure, there’s no difference in force needed to get to max travel between the different Aviasim cams which just have different centers, the only way to change the pressure with the cams is if you put in the Cosmosim cams that have a linear pressure along the full travel for no atmosphere space sims.

Looks great!!! smooth and slippery....:0)...

Virpil, I'm a paying custom, I'm still waiting, 6 weeks and counting. Looking forward to them some day! Overkill, thank you all. Love DCS and Star Citizen.

I got the warbrd-D base with the alpha prime stick on the way hopefully today. Coming from a thrustmaster t16000 so the difference should be immense! Can’t wait

46:00 I really don't know of any desk-mounts that don't "stick out". Even the Monstertech ones (which go straight down from the desk) have a pretty substantial/deep baseplate for the gimbal, so they too will push you from your desk. I guess this is unavoidable, since you need some room up top for the stick to maneuver in or otherwise you'd hit the desk or the mount with your knuckles or grip every time you push the stick forward. Problem for me is that even with my VKB UCM-S (short) mount, I'm getting pushed pretty far from my desk - especially now that I added a 100mm extension to my Gunfighter. As much as I'd love to try the 200mm extension, I just don't see how that could work for me without cutting out a piece from my chair's seat. I mean.. I'm sitting so far from the desk already that I had to put my monitor on an extendable arm, because even without the stick extension and the mount set a bit shorter than its maximum length, the monitor would be too far away from me in its "surf the web/work" location on my desk. With the 100mm installed, I set my mount to the absolute maximum length I could get (one notch beyond what VKB recommend, but it's still solid, lol), pushing me even further away and that barely works with my monitor-mount. If I went with the long mount and 200mm extension, I'm not sure that monitor-arm would extend far enough... :D

Really enjoyed this video! I just ordered this grip and base, as well as the collective. Mostly for the DCS AH-64 that I've finally taken out of the hangar after my day1 purchase

@OverkillSimulations

Жыл бұрын

I think I took mine out the day of.. did a couple videos and now she's covered in dust. Ground crew is so mad at me...

@redtailpilot

Жыл бұрын

@@OverkillSimulations 😂

@redtailpilot

Жыл бұрын

@@OverkillSimulations Finally setup the collective and I'm blown away! Takes my Apache flying to a whole new level of precision! Time to setup the CM3 and grip so that I can retire my Warthog once and for all. She served me well over the years 😉🤣

@OverkillSimulations

Жыл бұрын

@@redtailpilot same with mine lol.. it was bitter sweet putting it on the shelf lol!

@redtailpilot

Жыл бұрын

@@OverkillSimulations I put the no-detent cams in and took the Apache for a few test flights. WOW! what a difference. Well worth the upgrade. I have to tweak the tension and settings a bit more, but I'm liking this so far. This is huge for me because I can't stand the force-trim idea in DCS!

Had Virpil stuff for a couple of years now, solid controllers, I don’t think touchy is the quite the correct word for the stick bases but I get why you are saying that coming from something where the gimbal and sensors are not as smooth and as accurate as these, something to get used too I’m sure. For me, I came from a Thrustmaster HOTAS X so it was a big jump in quality. I have a couple of CM3 stick bases coming tomorrow to replace the WarBRD bases I have, and I hope that the clutches will allow easier on the arms helicopter flying, just hoping there not much noticeable stiction like there is on their collectives which I had to mod to remove.

Nice i have never heard of this company till this video. I am looking for Rudder pedals and I'm using the Honeycomb Bravo throttle and yoke and love them but don't have Rudder pedals yet. It looks like this company makes a nice product.

Alpha Prime is a Metal grip, it feels so nice. but use the hard spring as with a 200mm EX it is heavy.

Great video, you have me sold on the stick and throttle set up. I currently use the old TM16000 stick/throttle/rudder set up and Im looking to upgrade. My question is, what do you recommend for rudder pedals? Buying the virpil products would leave me without rudder pedals since my current pedals are tethered to the TM16000 throttle. Can you recommend any riddle pedals to buy? Do you have any info on the virpil rudders?

For DCS is the clutch dampener worth it, for upgrading from the cm2 base?

hi i have now also ordered the virpil throttle and joystick, i'm already hot as an apple pie! Can you please make a video where you explain how you assigned the various buttons and switches on both devices for e.g. the boeing 737-800 or other aircraft for the microsoft flight simulator 2020? Would be super cool and a big help to me and others, thank you and a happy and healthy new year 2023! Daniel from thailand

Great video, thank you! Those are great looking allen wrenches, do you happen to know the brand name?

I really want the VIRPIL Just a bit wary of how complex it seems to be

Great video I've been struggling to find the sweet spot for sensitivity and travel for a 17-in center mounted flight stick extension for about a year now. Right now the best solution I have is to set beginning and end dead zones to 15 I'm using the cosmo cams with no Center detent I took off centering in the software a little weird. How are you coming along with the sensitivity in game with your extension. I used the stiffest springs for the gimbal. There are pictures of my flight rig in Reddit I have custom 3D printed extension and it is ruined my competitiveness in games like Elite dangerous my accuracy has gone down the tubes.

I got the grip and extension, and plan to do dcs but mostly msfs for genera aviation you definitely recommend the cams?, as my base is gonna be floor mounted, will it be fine for general aviation specially for the pmdg 737? I got the alpha and bravo honeycomb but to change back and forth from racing to aviation is extremely difficult with the virpil setup I don't have to change anything, please let me know your thoughts, thanks!!! Btw Awesome the work ur doing!!!

I got a lot more grease in mine compare to yours :). Just out of curiosity, as I have the exact setup with you. Did you add any curvature on the roll pitch axis? Or deadzones and so

Hello great video. I've got a bit of an urgent question regarding the CM3 base mount, in particular the metal plate that attaches to the base itself. What are the dimensions between the centre of screw holes that attach it to the clamp part. The lateral distances between the front and back screws and the distance between the adjacent screw. many thanks!

Hey :) I just bought a full Virpil set up Extention and all, would you recomend the stronger spring/cam combo out of the gate, or should I just try both and figure out what I like most? (I am looking for a low resistance "experience", like how a cyclic in a Heli would feel)

Question??? I use Winwing Throttle and the Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with Virpil grip, I just got the VPC Control Panel - #2. Do I slave it to the Virpil base or run it separate? Thank you

Cool! I hope I'll save enough money to buy this set by the New 2024 Year... I'll do video like this too. But so far Defender Cobra M5 works good)

TL;DR: there are no tools in the Virpil bundle anymore. You will need your own. it is important to note that Virpil does NOT PROVIDE the tools anymore. they include a 2 and a 2.5 mm allen wrench with the stick, but you will still need your own 3, 5 and 6 mm wrenches as well as a 8 mm open-end wrench (and possibly more if there's more stuff you want to customize). mind you i'm not a handyman. i measured these myself and it's possible that i did something wrong with the measurements, but i bought the Virpil bundle with the stick, base and throttle as well as the desk mounts and I also bought two panels from Winwing (for the F/A-18) and those came with the needed tools, which also worked with some of the screws and nuts for Virpil. so in the end, i had half of the tools i needed to set my stuff up :/

I'm glad to see you bought the Mongoos T50-CM2 grip and NOT the Constellation Alpha or Alpha Prime. How come?

you don't have to take the thing apart to swap the cams though. i prefer that over accidentally bending those pins.

How long did it take to get to you? Like from the moment you buy it to the moment it gets to your doorstep. I recently got a nice setup, and I don't know how long to expect because they haven't said anything about it.

I was like come on what's the hype the warthog is so authentic and bla bla support Thrustmaster. I just received the CM 2 and put the warthog stick on it WOAH its insanely good, day and night difference....i get it now. Ok not saying now thrustmaster is not good anymore.... Their TPR Pedals are the best out there for aircraft authenticity and feel. So out of the Box with its standard Springs and AviaSim soft Cams it feels great don't know if i need to change anything for the DCS F16.... or is there a setup with springs and cams that feels like the F16? :)) Great Video suer detailed...Cheers

I need to research how to use the knobs as an axis on my throttle. I have tried all the settings in the software, and they still work horribly for things like Radio volume knobs and what not. I have read that using 3rd party software helps, but I really dont want to mess with that.

M Virpil R VPC Rotor Tcs PLUS collective when I pull up it goes down when I pour down it goes up how do I fix that

for the joystick do you have to change the base for the stick extension?

@OverkillSimulations

8 ай бұрын

Negative

I don’t think I’ve ever needed to remove the grip to do a firmware update of the base and it’s been fine.

@jeubby5614

Жыл бұрын

That was exactly my thoughts too as I keyed in on the same thing. From the beginninging (been using VIRPIL several years now) I have always had the Grip attached (and swapped grips too) when updating software. *** UNLESS VIRPIL has changed something in their latest Software. :-)

I just got my 2x alpha primes, and my 2x mongoose T-50cm3 flight stick bases. Did all the firmware and calibrations as described in the video. But, I'm having an issue, that i'm not sure is actually an issue. The VPC joy tester only lists the right hand stick and base when both sticks are plugged into USB. But if i unplug the right, the left stick THEN shows up on the list in the joy tester. If both are plugged in, it only lists the right hand stick in the tester, but in the other software both are listed. Is this an issue,, or should i just do one at a time in the tester, get all my binds set up, then rinse and repeat on the other? Thanks! This is my first HOSAS setup, and I'm definitely a newb

@RW-zn8vy

4 ай бұрын

Did you ever submit a ticket to Virpil support? It’d also possible that you messed up because i think you aren’t supposed to have them all plugged in at once when connecting.

@helimx

4 ай бұрын

@@RW-zn8vy I did a restart of my pc. All is good. 😜

My base is plugged in but VPC doesn't recognize it. Won't show up in the USB devices drop down. How do I fix that?

@OverkillSimulations

8 ай бұрын

That sounds like you're plugged into the AUX port not the USB on the VIRPIL

Hello. Love your channel. Do you know if VIRPIL is in good health? 90% of their catalog is in back order…

@OverkillSimulations

6 ай бұрын

Almost always is and yes they're doing well lol. Been like that since they started

@ricardograde5134

6 ай бұрын

@@OverkillSimulations Thank you for your attention… but making an order, an expensive one, with almost everything in back order is kinda of uncomfortable. Makes you think twice. Ok, I will make that order… best to you!!

Where do you get the different style cams from?

@OverkillSimulations

11 ай бұрын

Come with it

What are you using for rudder pedals?

@1SaG

Жыл бұрын

Check 45:46... looks like Thrustmaster TPRs to me. Supposedly very nice pedals. I went with the MFG Crosswinds cause I wasn't sure I'd like the TM's motion - plus everyone was recommending the MFGs and they were the "cheapest" option out of the three I was considering (TM, MFG and Virpil).

@MarkDavidBlack

Жыл бұрын

@@1SaG I have the MFG Crosswinds. I like them.

@1SaG

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkDavidBlack Yup... best pedals I've ever owned or used.

@tomas5577

Жыл бұрын

I bought the TPRs. Love them, but very expensive.

Aren’t they compatible with TM sticks? Best of both worlds…

@cowansimstudio

Жыл бұрын

yup, just gotta take out the screws holding the connector in place on the VPC base and it connects fine

OMG, that's expensive though...

Why do you have a girls watch band with no watch?

@OverkillSimulations

5 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? The silver bracelet is watch bracelet combo from Citizen. And it's not a girl's lol

@ghostgoat5508

5 ай бұрын

It’s cute! lol. Great video btw. I just ordered new alpha primes and mongooses based on your review.

I just got my Virpil shipment, and I wouldn't call the quality amazing. Just "okay" for the price that it is. Nothing that amazing. Maybe they just rubbed me the wrong way by NOT adding adjustment tools with the product, but yet sell a toolkit on their website. I expect better at these prices. Edit* The T-50CM3 base does not come with tools anymore like the video says just to be clear here.

@alightpirokill

Ай бұрын

I agree …

The American flag in the Virpil icon is confusing me. It's a company created by Russians and registered in Belarus, the country helping Russia with its terrorism.

@OverkillSimulations

Жыл бұрын

I tolerate a lot of nonsense on this platform but this one I won't. You as an individual do not represent your country or its actions. On second thought... Yes you're right! Because their government may support the Russian Government's actions we should probably just arrest them all right? Just like all Russian people?? Because clearly they all support Russia and Putin right? Just the way all Iraqis supported Saddam right? Stop with the bigotry and hate or just stay off my channel! The American flag Virpil icon is because they have a store in the UNITED STATES!! So does that mean America is supporting terrorism too?? I'll go turn myself in. THERE IS ENOUGH HATE AND PREJUDICE AND AWFUL GARBAGE IN THE WORLD WITHOUT US ADDING TO IT ON A FREAKING KZread FLIGHT SIMULATION CHANNEL!

Hey mate I got the same setup but my usb cord is wrecked, what does the aux cord do maybe I can replace it for the aux

I saw video like this and ordered Virpill base. IT SUCK!!!!! DO NOT BUY VIRPIL!!!! ONLY VKB!!!!