Vintage Scuba: Hard Shell Scuba BCD's - S02E07

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Remember the early Jacques Cousteau divers with their cool yellow hard shell back packs? From the 1970's, Alec shows two different designs in hard shell BCD systems and what was inside the Cousteau hard shells.
** In this episode of Vintage Scuba **
- ScubaPro hard shell with enclosed fabric buoyancy compensator and integrated weight system
- Dacor Nautilus CVS (Constant Volume System) hard shell with internal water ballast system and integrated weights
**** Alec Peirce Scuba ****
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  • @marylandflyer
    @marylandflyer7 жыл бұрын

    You have GOT TO open a museum!! This stuff is awesome.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mary. Alec

  • @giorgos424
    @giorgos4244 жыл бұрын

    In all the episodes, I am actually impressed by the "air" sounds that he can so realistically reproduce with his lips! Amazing! :)

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, I try to be either informative or amusing - preferably both. Thanks for watching. Alec

  • @alexarna
    @alexarna7 жыл бұрын

    Alec's descend noise rocks my world :P

  • @z00ropa
    @z00ropa3 жыл бұрын

    Just found this channel a couple weeks ago, and am having fun learning about all this old gear. What a time to have been a diver when all these news concepts came along.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the fascinating world of vintage scuba or 'stone age' diving as Kevin calls it. Lots for you to learn and go 'that did that?' moments. Today's diving is fun, safe and just as expensive as 50-60 years ago. Thanks for watching Justin.

  • @ts440s
    @ts440s4 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful fireplace, a rare sighting here in Florida, maybe a home tour sometime.

  • @christhompson1348
    @christhompson13487 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing a girl in popular science magazine back in the 80's wearing one that had padded shoulder pieces that were rigid and had no straps down, but had the cumber bun I think. Another great video, thanks again!!

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    7 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like the Hawaiian Back Pack. The shoulder was 2 steel bars covered in foam padding that literally hooked over the diver's shoulders. It had only a single waist strap. It was very comfortable.

  • @frogsgottalent1106
    @frogsgottalent11064 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much for taking the time to share all your experience and excellent dive gear. Long may it continue. Mick

  • @ronbeatty516
    @ronbeatty5165 жыл бұрын

    The Gremlin wasn't awesome? ;-) Seriously, you should start a scuba museum with all the gear you've collected. It would be something to see.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nice idea. I'd love to but there's are 2 things standing in the way - money and time. Sound familiar? This is the best that I can do. I hope you're enjoying it. Take care. Alec

  • @serpentscore
    @serpentscore2 жыл бұрын

    I love the dacor system i would use it today if it came as a 2 tank set up

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watch my "Sea Hunt Remembered" playlist on this channel to see real divers in vintage 1960's gear. Lots of doubles and a few triples too!.

  • @Sherwoody
    @Sherwoody4 жыл бұрын

    Both units look very slick and clean. Sort of like scuba diving with the Jetsons. Back in the 70’s we all probably thought that all dive gear would look like this in the 21st century. Excellent video. Thanks.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Alec

  • @1989Goodspeed
    @1989Goodspeed Жыл бұрын

    You should take a look at Divers ready new video about the Avelo System, it looks like a DACORE Nautilus but battery driven and integrated into the tank… As you have stated that many “new” innovations in SCUBA are many times reinterpretations of old ideas.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    Жыл бұрын

    I will check it out TB. A

  • @pablorivera376

    @pablorivera376

    Жыл бұрын

    Excelent, I like the Dacor idea, I think that it is even better than the Avelo system because there is no need of a water pump and batteries.

  • @moclepocle
    @moclepocle7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Never seen them before. The white one, looks like the back pack from NASA, I am sure looked cool back then, during the space program.

  • @claytonroach3746
    @claytonroach37465 жыл бұрын

    Hi there! I have a Scubapro Nautilus. .... and still dive with it... I enjoy it very much... really good for shore diving..swimming on back. ..and pleasant to use and very reliable m

  • @govertzijderveld2970

    @govertzijderveld2970

    Жыл бұрын

    I do agree on that one.

  • @rippleguys
    @rippleguys3 жыл бұрын

    I remember scubapro made one of those in blue.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    These are a great collectors item in any colour.

  • @pablorivera376
    @pablorivera376 Жыл бұрын

    Excelent, I like the Dacor idea, I think that it is even better than the Avelo system because there is no need of a water pump.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    Жыл бұрын

    It was a totally new idea at the time but did fade away quickly as is mostly forgotten today. A

  • @jimschnurr3512
    @jimschnurr35127 жыл бұрын

    Another great video-love the older stuff to really explain the current equipment and its evolution. Tnx

  • @russellcampbell9641
    @russellcampbell96417 жыл бұрын

    Great demonstration of the Natilus operation! As I understand it the Nautilus was the "Gremlin" of the Dacor line and evidently had issues due to it's unique and rather cumbersome configuration. Thanks again for another wonderful video!

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yep! There was a lot of that - neat but stupid!! Actually there still is a lot! Alec

  • @amsetus
    @amsetus6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Bought one of the Nautilus units in the late 70's. Skin Diver magazine of the time called it "The Rolls Royce of Buoyancy Compensating Systems". Did many dives with it in Argentina, Patagonia region. I remember it was really bulky and offered too much drag underwater, specially under currents. Also the frequent groaning noises it's regulator made with the flow of air, everyone could tell where I was! Indeed a part of equipment in diving history! Also had some Farallon stuff, as an air humidifier / purifying unit, remember these?

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah! The SAM (Scuba Air Moisturizer)! I've still got all that neat Farallon stuff. It'll be on my vintage playlist soon. Good to hear from you. Nice memories. Alec

  • @DonFassbender
    @DonFassbender7 жыл бұрын

    Hey Alec, another great video. You know, the CVS Nautilus automatically regulates the internal volume once set at depth, with the inflator which is actually a regulator. Not for breathing, but for adding air as you descend in the water column. I enjoy diving mine with my Olympic 400. Keep the vids coming!

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wow! A Nautilus and an Olympic 400, my favorite regulator ever! Love it. Alec

  • @wgo100
    @wgo1005 жыл бұрын

    Great video again; designs must have been inspired by the growing spacetravels.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe. Anything to make their gear look super modern was good. Alec

  • @Dive_Me_Crazy
    @Dive_Me_Crazy7 жыл бұрын

    I want one of those hard packs. Just needs a NASA logo and you can play space man and scuba at the same time.

  • @Blastfence1
    @Blastfence13 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @firejim1232
    @firejim12327 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alec: Thanks for covering the dacor nautilus! I bought one in 1975 and used it for several years. I have it stored up in my attic. It was fun having it automatically control your buoyancy, although it did require manual adjustments, especially on your ascent(too fast). I noticed a "J"valve on your tank. I've asked you on another one of your videos, why did they stop using them? I thought it to be a very useful safety device.

  • @LetsJumpGo
    @LetsJumpGo6 жыл бұрын

    I have hundreds of dives on the Scubapro Scubasystem, you have. I really enjoyed it! I liked it for the weight integration and it was very comfortable to dive. The biggest problem with it was you had to be head up toward the surface to vent the BC, it was bulky to travel with, and a bit heavier than today’s weight integrated BC’s.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're quite right Jump. Today's diver wants convenience more than anything so, despite the advantages of the hard shell, it's disadvantages weigh more heavily against it. Thanks for watching. Alec

  • @troop1026
    @troop10267 жыл бұрын

    awesome video Alec keep up the great work. Could you do a video on the hockey puck computers of the 90s. A lot still out there and a lot hitting the used market. Montana Mike.

  • @Paperbutton9
    @Paperbutton9 Жыл бұрын

    so cool

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. A

  • @MAGAisacult
    @MAGAisacult6 жыл бұрын

    Alec, it looks like a Sears & Roebuck (that's a while back!) car top carrier. It should come with an optional bicycle, and canoe attachment! hahahahah

  • @Kitwilbur
    @Kitwilbur7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alec! I always enjoy your videos! When is Kevin going to give a cameo?

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    7 жыл бұрын

    Kevin is the first to admit that he's not that photogenic. I'll see if I can trick him. Well, I KNOW I can trick him, so we'll see what happens. Alec

  • @johnthomas2070
    @johnthomas20705 жыл бұрын

    Wow very interesting

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John. Alec

  • @ClappedOut
    @ClappedOut7 жыл бұрын

    I just started to watch some of your videos and they're very fun and informative. I'm a very new diver. In fact, I just did my open water PADI last weekend :P I'm looking around to buy my own equipment but I'm not sure what to buy, where to buy it and also about how much would it cost and all that. maybe you could make a video about that sortof stuff ;) I didn't watch a lot so far but I really like your videos :)

  • @neal3800

    @neal3800

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mathieu Jobidon First thing: you don't know what you'll like until you try it! Try anything to see if it's comfortable and fits your needs. I know that Alec has done several similar videos in the past, but if he does not answer your call, I'd be very willing to help you find what you need. I do not sell any gear, and am quite impartial. I simply enjoy helping people find what they need. Let me know!

  • @ClappedOut

    @ClappedOut

    7 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot man :) I can't afford any scuba gear for now so won't be buying anything soon :P But thanks, I'l reply on your comment when I think about buying some gear. thanks :)

  • @cuttingedgeretro9164
    @cuttingedgeretro9164 Жыл бұрын

    I back to Alec Peirce Scuba to watch some best vintage scuba videos. I don't understand why this concept is not made any more. Hard Shell Scuba BCD is probably the most safe way for cave diving or wreck penetration. there is dual bladder bcd's one the market in case of puncture. but why just dont use hard shell ?

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not a cave expert but I believe it’s due to overall size. Cavers today like sidemounts to reduce overall size to the smallest possible height. A

  • @cuttingedgeretro9164

    @cuttingedgeretro9164

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter It is very scare choosing compact setup for tight squeezes. I wouldn't do it myself

  • @pablorivera376
    @pablorivera376 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to dive with a Dacor but I don't know if we are allowed to dive with that today.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    Жыл бұрын

    A few of my vintage divers use this today. It works but not comfortable. Thanks for watching. A

  • @jakeb.7997
    @jakeb.79979 ай бұрын

    I’m surprised these didn’t catch on….wouldn’t you want the tank contained like that? Or would there be downsides like lack of air capacity (tanks need to be smaller) and lack of octopus regulator?

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    9 ай бұрын

    As cool as they looked, their size was not a benefit to small and medium size divers. The new BCS's were lighter, cheaper and more comfortable so that likely help push these into the 'unique' but not popular category. A

  • @markstengel7680
    @markstengel76805 жыл бұрын

    Very cool Scubapro gear. On tv we were amazed with US Divers yellow mult tank carrier. I remember a tank conected to a 1/2 inch hard black plastic with handles molded into it's side, making carrying easier. Is this available by anyone ? I'd like to have for nostalgic collection. Liked this episode, 👍

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have a couple of those for sale cheap! Reach me at seahunter@vintagescuba.com Alec

  • @ivoryjohnson4662
    @ivoryjohnson46627 жыл бұрын

    the form factor looks a lot like the rebreathers of today

  • @kristoferobrien2
    @kristoferobrien24 жыл бұрын

    I have a Dacor CVS that still works with weights

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow! It was a very neat although short-lived device. DACOR tried to keep it alive but it really is bulky, quite cumbersome, heavy and, with today's BCDs, totally irrelevant. Alec

  • @kristoferobrien2

    @kristoferobrien2

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter i keep it up and maintenance... Still kinda cool..

  • @gee4526
    @gee45265 жыл бұрын

    Hey Alec, I am curious, Today with the bc's and other modern safety equipment weight dumping is rare because there really is no need to have to dump them. But in vintage diving when there was no real way to control your buoyancy did they have to dump weights often?

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Probably more than today. Since we had no way to increase our buoyancy underwater, if we got too deep and too negative, we had to dump weights. Then of course, we got too buoyant near the surface. It wasn't easy. Kev and I are planning some Vintage Scuba videos on diving in the old days. Alec

  • @Fuegodiver
    @Fuegodiver6 жыл бұрын

    I am not sure why you do not like Jacques Cousteau. The Scuba Pro hard shell is the same concept that you described that he used. I was certified in 1969 and the main reason that I was attracted to scuba diving was from watching his shows. I even had the yellow tape on my wetsuit. While I realized that he did some things to enhance his shows including allegations that he abused fish and coral I still owe my interest in the ocean to him. I enjoy your shows keep up the good work.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comments Martin. Maybe I've been too harsh in my criticism of JYC. I certainly don't dislike him and I definitely appreciate and laud his contribution to the sport of scuba and to everyone's understanding of the undersea world. No one before or since has done more to open up that incredible world to us all. And his admonitions to protect the marine environment were far ahead of their time. I suppose my personal feelings come from a knowledge of the development of the scuba apparatus itself, the actual device we use to dive. It has always bothered me that people think JYC invented it and that's simply not true. However, he certainly was the instrument through which an appreciation of the oceans was brought to the world. No one would deny that. My first wetsuit also had yellow tape a la JYC and I have a large collection of his works, films, books, movies, movie posters and more. So, while not an unconditional fan of the Cousteaus, I agree completely that he was instrumental in bringing scuba and the marine world to us all. Perhaps I'll do a vid on his work and the impact it had on you., me and everyone else. Thanks for watching. Alec

  • @Kebekwoodcraft7375
    @Kebekwoodcraft73757 жыл бұрын

    HI Alec nice it kind of look like the one my friend have the weight in is if remember well was like shotgun led balls , question i wonder about the decor one, if the water and air in the same chamber was shifting from top to button or side to side ,example like air on the left and water on the right so swim side ways ! or to be level was hard to maintain ? great job to both of you , ps did you win the fight with the table cloth !

  • @firejim1232

    @firejim1232

    7 жыл бұрын

    Flatdog Sound & Light : that's a good question Flatdog. I never gave any thought to the positioning of the air&water inside the pvc hard shell. I never had a problem with swimming in a level position. Once you obtained your neutral buoyancy, the pressure sensitive regulator would take over your changes in depth. On ascending, it would "burp" out some of the air, but I always felt the need to manually release more air to avoid a rapid ascent. Hope my explanation has helped.

  • @govertzijderveld2970

    @govertzijderveld2970

    Жыл бұрын

    @@firejim1232 Mine is still in the garage. Yep it burped, I also thought about this in the old days. My only somewhat flimsy theory is that air is lighter than water and moveout faster considering the difference in weight. Inertia effect.

  • @javiercaselli
    @javiercaselli7 жыл бұрын

    You really got some incredible stuff in your attic Alec! BTW, about the Jack Cousteau stuff, I remember watching the show as a kid and how they claimed their system produced no bubbles in order to not disburb the wildlife during their dives, are we talking about the same "scam" device? I remember I had a conversation with my instructor a few months ago in which he told me how rebreathers were not his cup of tea (I wouldn't know, I'm just basic nitrox certified for the time being), a while later, during the drive back home the Cousteau show came to mind and I though "Did these guys really had rebreathers so long ago?", but then the issue just slipped my mind.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    7 жыл бұрын

    There were rebreathers in the 40's. They were used in WWII. They were pretty much manual not unlike my homemade unit. I had a Canadian Navy unit that was British made but sold it to a military collector. Don't know about the Cousteaus. They had several odd designs that looked cool but didn't work. Sometimes they wore them anyway for the movies. Bubbles generally are not a problem for wildlife. They are quite used to various animals giving off gas. Thanks for watching Javier Alec

  • @javiercaselli

    @javiercaselli

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, one of the things I loved the most when I started diving was finding out how most wildlife is utterly unimpressed with our presence down there, bubbles or no bubbles. It's incredible how close you can get to all those awesome creatures, some of them even get curious and get close to divers!

  • @javiercaselli

    @javiercaselli

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, one of the things I loved the most when I started diving was finding out how most wildlife is utterly unimpressed with our presence down there, bubbles or no bubbles. It's incredible how close you can get to all those awesome creatures, some of them even get curious and get close to divers!

  • @Skunkiboi
    @Skunkiboi5 жыл бұрын

    Cousteau lost spectators in the 1960s due to the space race. People were more interested in the Apollo Programm than in underwater documentations. So they thought about a way to make divers look more like astronauts.

  • @1989Goodspeed
    @1989Goodspeed3 жыл бұрын

    So this might have been something similar to what they used on “The Spy Who Loved Me” (1977).

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know the 007 movie but don't recall a scuba scene. Maybe I forgot.

  • @1989Goodspeed

    @1989Goodspeed

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Well here at 02:32 you can see them kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4aspch-nrbJis4.html

  • @toms7947
    @toms79475 жыл бұрын

    The white one looks like an air conditioner unit from the top of a motor home. Weird...

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    I didn't notice that but you're right. It's about the same size too. Alec

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo27215 жыл бұрын

    16 lb od lead ugh........ Dacor was always inexpensive.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    DACOR was good gear and often more affordable. DACOR was one of the big 5 scuba manufacturers and was in business for a long time. Their hard-shell buoyancy system was NOT one of their better ideas. Take care. Alec

  • @zencat999
    @zencat9995 жыл бұрын

    dude....it was for stream lining. better movement through the water....it was NOT a scam. it was an early attempt to get better movement through the water. stop slamming what you dont understand.

  • @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    @AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Have to disagree my friend, I used this system (thanks why I own it) and like many new ideas at the time, didn't meet divers expectations and faded away. Education is what want to share. Thanks for watching.

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