So glad my Vintage Patricia Legacy is authentic❤ Thank you for this educational video!

This was so informative! Thank you so much for all your research.

Thank you so much for this video. I came across this bag in a eBay auction at a steal. I have fallen in love with the size of this bag and function is perfect for me.

OMG, I literally just bought a black 9951, that needs love, before watching your video.😳 SMH. I'll let you know my verdict if the bag is indeed a COACH. The Patricia Schneider bag is a lovely style. P.S. Congratulations on your client finding a limited edition bag. 😀

Thank you for your video, very authentic. I guess it happens to all of us at one point and appreciate you for posting it. I know the feeling..

Bonkers! Love this video. Going to scrutinize my Coach bag collection immediately.

I just bought a 9951 on Mercari and I appreciate this video. Mine is looking good! Thanks for the video.

love the video!! so Helpful!

I appreciate the detail in your videos and I also wanted to assure you that the camera caught the size differences in the zippers very nicely

@birdybloom2

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m so glad!!

Great video, thanks! 😊

Thank you so much for this video. I have had my eye on this bag for a while and this will be so helpful in choosing the one I will buy. I did see one where the inner pocket zipper is nylon. Do you know if Patricia's Legacy bags ever have nylon zippers?

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

They did. Sometime in the 90’s, Coach did start using Nylon Zippers on inner zipper pockets in place of what was once Brass.

@planithalie5744

Жыл бұрын

@@birdybloom2 Thank you so much. Your videos are so informative 😁

Hello Michelle. Loved the video. 🤩 The zipper difference was very noticeable. I have a #9951 which I love. 🥰 I was wondering where or how do I find the resources to learn more about the creed and what it means. I’d love to know when my Patricia Legacy was made. Thank you.

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

Join my New FB group Vintage Coach EyeCandy and reach out there. I will give him some excellent places to get started;)

@shaunamorgan6750

Жыл бұрын

@@birdybloom2 Bummer…. I do not have FB. Thank you for the reply.

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

@@shaunamorgan6750 if you google Vintage Coach Creed, The Authenticity Guide pops up and that would be an excellent place to start ;)

@shaunamorgan6750

Жыл бұрын

@@birdybloom2 Fantastic. Thank you! ☺️

Great video! I just thrifted this bag and I was wondering if it was fake. It does have the strap w/the silvertone. But it has the large zipper with leather pull like your real one, has the short line under the 'No' & has the raw backing on the inside pocket. But, the edging around the inner zipper isn't rolled ... but it doesn't look like the fake one you showed. It looks good, but isn't rolled. The leather doesn't feel like my 9966, but it doesn't feel like fake leather. What do you think I should do? I was going to rehab it - dunk and condition. Now I'm conflicted! LOL

@birdybloom2

2 жыл бұрын

I always say that the strap is removable (therefore replaceable) so you can’t decide just on that alone but mismatched hardware is a common thing seen on counterfeits. Counterfeits can also have all appropriate hardware by the way. There are varying degrees of fakes from good leather to bad leathers and terrible plastics. These bags were faked A LOT. Ask about it in a group. I can’t tell you for sure based on your info. You can also email me at Birdybloom_rehab@yahoo.com As far as what to do….if you are getting it just for yourself and you don’t care then do what you wish! If you are getting it to resell or you do care, then demand your money back if it ends up being counterfeit! I will warn you that some counterfeits can change texture significantly after being washed. Best wishes!

@RPBSpeaks

2 жыл бұрын

@@birdybloom2 thanks so much for responding! I’m going to wash it and see if it does change texture / feel of the leather. I’ve had a fake & real Basic Bag. And the fake looked exactly like the fake but the leather was considerably lower quality. This particular bag actually feels good. I have several vintage Coach bags so I’ll pull them out and compare all leathers. Once it’s rehabbed I’d like to email you pics. I’ve never had this style before or else I’d compare it like I did the Basic Bags. I’m going to use it personally, so if it cleans up good I’ll keep it. However, I’d love to know if it’s fake to help me going forward. I thrift almost all of my Vintage Coach bags so being able to ID them correctly is important. Thanks again & Happy Easter 💗

@birdybloom2

2 жыл бұрын

@@RPBSpeaks I look forward to seeing your bag rehab!!

I noticed that you didn't say if the fake bag had the same ykk zipper pull as the authentic one. I was told that none of the fake bags will have the ykk so I'm really curious to know if the fake bag has the ykk engraved?!

@birdybloom2

2 жыл бұрын

It has the exact same zipper. That is False information that counterfeits don’t have YKK zippers. They absolutely do. Also, Coach used a lot of other types of zippers so you will not only see YKK for them. Thanks for your comment and question!! 🥰

I never really wanted one because I thought maybe coach made a lot of them...now I'm thinking that may be I see tons of them for sale all the time because of the amount of fakes? 😬 Yikes

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

There are a lot because it was a popular bag but then it was also faked a lot because it was popular. I’m really shocked by how many fakes of these I see compared to other bags. There are some bags out there that you don’t see often and when you do there is a big chance they are counterfeit. This one has lots of good and bad ones!

Did you notice that a lot of the 9951 bags have the plastic zipper on the inside pocket? Everything else looks legit. Did coach ever switch to the plastic zipper inside? Interesting.

@birdybloom2

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, not sure what year, maybe early 2000’s but they did start using a Nylon Zipper. In my opinion, the leather still is very nice on these bags so the zipper change doesn’t bother my personally but some think it’s a downgrade.

Question I purchased one and the code NoCO4Q-9951 So I’m assuming that is March of 2004?? It also says handcrafted in china with natural glove tanned cowhide. I just got nervous that it said it was handcrafted in china. I wish I could add a picture for you to see

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

You can email me at BirdyBloom_rehab@yahoo.com but all of that lines up as ok. The classic style Bags were being made in China in the early 2000’s. Some people say that they don’t like these bags but I do like the leather on them, the classic styles that is. I am not as much of a fan of the newer styles in the 2000’s.

@jennab.7429

Жыл бұрын

@@birdybloom2 ok thank you!!!

Help! I think I may have just "won" a fake on Ebay! Looking at the Ebay listing photos again, I just noticed the undersides of the brass buckle hole rivets are splayed. Not smoothly round. By splayed, I mean, fanned out like a daisy. I've watched your video closely trying to get a good view of the undersides of the straps, but could not tell about the buckle holes. It just seems a fine Coach bag would not have such shabby details. Am I right? I'll write the Ebay seller to ask her to put my purchase on hold. Hope hope hope to hear from you here.....and soon! Thank you!

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

Well I really can’t say for sure just by this one detail. All I can say is Coach was handmade and as many people may think there should be ‘perfection’ this is just not the case. But even in the imperfections, these bags are extremely well made and not ‘sloppy’. eBay has a good return policy. You can post pics of your bag and creed in Coach Counterfeits on FB, in the Purse Forum under Coach Authentication or even in my FB group Coach EyeCandy (though this isn’t the purpose of the group there are some really good authenticators in the group). Best wishes! eBay will also force returns on inauthentic items!

@1viridis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! I don't do FB, so I'm so glad you are here! I did some online research of other 9951s last night. From what I could find, as not all showed underside of the strap, but all that did had smooth round brass buckle grommets on both sides of the strap. Not splayed like a daisy on the underside, which really does look cheap. It would show, too, while wearing the bag. Wish I could post a photo here, I think you'd agree. My guess is the original grommets may have fallen out of the strap, and someone replaced them with whatever they could find at a hardware or craft store. Smacked the grommets in with a hammer, that's why they were splayed on the underside. Anyway, I took screenshots online and sent to the Ebay seller last night. Got an email this morning saying I had been refunded. Whew. I'd say buckle hole grommets are another thing to watch out for. Be sure to see both sides of straps in photos! Again....THANK YOU for your authentication services here!

@1viridis

Жыл бұрын

Wish I could describe better here. By brass buckle hole grommets I mean the rows of holes on both ends of the shoulder strap, used to adjust strap length. Caveat emptor (buyer beware)!

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

@@1viridis oh I know what you are talking about. Again, I can’t say for sure if the bag you are referring to is authentic or not but, that is actually normal. This is hardware that has been used by Coach on authentic bags. You will see both the smooth backing and the splayed backing of the grommets. If you would like for me to still look at the bag then you can email a link from eBay to birdybloom_rehab@yahoo.com Happy to help if I can but also have plenty of experts to ask if I can’t personally say for sure;)

I'm sorry you got a fake, not nice when someone takes advantage of you. I hope the person who sold you the bag gets caught on what ever sales site they were on and gets through out of the sites.

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

Some people don’t know themselves. It’s ok;) provided good learning content so not all bad!

Would you be willing to tell me if a bag I’m looking to purchase is real vintage coach?

@birdybloom2

2 жыл бұрын

You can email me at birdybloom_rehab@yahoo.com

How do you know when a bag is a legacy line bag

@birdybloom2

Жыл бұрын

From looking at the catalogs.

WOW so many fakes its scary! Im not sure that the Legacy collection all has names because the Legacy Zip 9966 has no name. BUT I have heard from another creator that the collection was named after the workers in the original factory. So much misinformation out there on the names and most came from the brand itself renaming bags and misprints on the old catalogs. The details you went on in this video was excellent and more creators should talk about this subject. Thank you (EDIT) Just watched a video that a girl in a FB group called vintage Coach Cult claims this bag was named after her ( Patricia Schneider) because she won a contest lol could be true if shes older who knows ive been around since the dinosaurs and dont remember such contests

@birdybloom2

2 жыл бұрын

Really! I want to see that! Some of the bags were named after customers (so I’ve been told). But you are right, they don’t all have names after people such as the #9966.

@Bella-yb6gg

2 жыл бұрын

@@birdybloom2 Well in my opinion the Patricia bag is much older than the girl making that claim LOL i believe the channel was Nellies Corner not sure on that but came across it by researching the bag