Thanks for posting your experience. You provided a lot of useful information.

@Texxas750Cruzer

6 ай бұрын

My pleasure 🤠

Great that you shared this event with everyone. Thanks

This is fantastic information. Thank you for testing this power plant to its outer limits. This gives me more confidence in the Viking engines.

@Texxas750Cruzer

6 ай бұрын

My pleasure .🤠

Great video, enjoyed every minute of it. Thanks for sharing and enjoy your airplane.

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

Appreciate the comment 🙂

Good job Dave, Had to go through that twice with mine. Interesting the things you find in a one-off creation. I was lucky in that my issues were at my home airport and didn't have the additional headaches you were faced with. All in all, You are back in business with minimum downtime.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Yes, all part of flying. Flew longer than most pilots,without any issue. So,still thrilled. 😎👍

I am an old, retired mechanic with 60 years’ experience in autos, airplanes, farm tractors, motorcycles. My opinion of the failed engine, lean, and overworked on low grade fuel I believe you were lucky to get 1100 + hours. I would suggest checking the plugs often. Big difference compared 0-200 that only turns 2400-2500 with low compression I have run them lean on 87 auto fuel, never melted any plugs as in your video. Thanks for the Video

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Plugs were checked frequently . I will be checking with borescope monthly and going to use Mid grade now.

I am going to the rudder build deal in about a week, Dec. 1 and 2. Jan said he will be there for at least part of it. I will be quizzing him on all the best options for a new Cruzer build. my gut feel is the NA engines will have the longest life in the airplanes but maybe he will weigh in on that with something different. Hard to believe the new baby turbo is as good as the Hondas. I am favoring the 150hp thus far. It was great and super encouraging to see you back in the air so quickly, at a likely very reasonable cost impact and it is a part of why some of us like this honda Viking deal to start with. I would be on board even if the TBO was planned at 1000 hours.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

BABY TURBO ... watching for test results myself. I always wanted a turbo. Pros and cons to be seen.

Cool video. Thanks for making it.

Sure is a lot easier to swap that motor out than was my 2004 F-150. I wish I had that much space to work on ny block!! Great job guys. I am glad you didnt go with the wobbly plate! 97% if people could not do what you did. And how cool is Bob to let you use his hangar!!!

@Texxas750Cruzer

3 ай бұрын

Thanks. It was Very nice to be able to do this inside. Great people made a bad time , much easier.

Hey, Thanks for the Ride Along Experience! Defect Confirmed! Have Fun, maybe 5500Max?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Yes , dropped max to 5800 currently for take off.

I would have put a catch can on the breather (the breather pointing at the manifold wasn't a great idea) and an eatension tubw past the cabin door, then put some 15w40 oil in it with some STP/motor honey/Nulon or similar in the oil ... then done a couple of hours flying around that airport to check for problems and oil usage and flown home planning multiple stops on the way home to be near airports and keep checking. I did similar many years ago with a gyrocopter (direct drive/Subaru EA81) with success. Greetings from Down Under

EGT or wideband O2 sensor will give you insight into AFR. Running rich is a bigger problem for aircraft than running lean. More than likely the issue was timing vs load. If Jan isn't using them, adding knock sensors would create a layer of safety around conditions that are difficult to recreate during a dyno tune.

@thomaswilga735

7 ай бұрын

Running too lean will certainly damage your engine

@AnonyMous-jf4lc

7 ай бұрын

@@thomaswilga735 if it was really lean he’d have trouble keeping it cool. It’s also direct injected, which is much more tolerant of lean conditions should they be present.

I'll be very interested in the teardown results. Borescope pictures shown didnt quite cover the periphery of the piston, the (my conjecture) likely propogation point for the crack. I'm interested to know if there were any chunks missing. For -detonation- failures, I expect more instantaneous damage than a (progressing) crack. Such as: broken top ring land, torched edges of the exposed aluminum, hole burnt through the crown. Good on you for immediately landing, checking the engine, and changing it. The failed engine may yet be a good base for a rebuild. Cheers!

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Hoping to open it up this month. Waiting on a free moment. Retirement is exhausting 😉

Danger Will Robinson! The Viking engine turns it around 4900 RPM in cruise, roughly twice, the RPM you’ll see in a Lycoming or Continental certified engine. These engines are derived from automobile engines which were not originally designed to output high levels of power full-time. In a car you might push the engine to max RPM, what, a few times a day for 10- 15 sec per application? On takeoff you are at full power for a much longer time. In your typical Honda, you’ll be turning 2000 RPM put-puting around behind your 1.5 L engine. At highway speeds your 1.5L Honda requires about 50 hp, whereas at cruise speeds in your aircraft it is putting out perhaps twice that. You’re asking an itty bitty car engine to perform at a level far in excess of the automobiles for which it was originally designed. I’m sure Viking beefs up some of the internal parts to address this, but you’re still asking a lot from a small engine. If you have 1,100 hours on your Viking engine, and it turns twice the RPM of a certified engine, then it has seen about the same number of revolutions that a certified engine will see in 2,200 hours - which is near to or beyond certified TBO. 2,000 hours on a Viking is more like 4,000 hours on a certified engine. Why is Rotax different? Because the engines are designed from the outset for this type of service. Remember the Pond racer that tried to get crazy horsepower out of twin modified Nissan auto engines? They blew up all the time. You could no more expect long duration 800 HP out of a Chrysler Hellcat Hemi engine than a man in the moon. It is designed to accelerate and rest, not hump it full time. Very impressed with the turnaround. Would have taken months on a certified engine! And you saved a ton by doing it yourself!

@percussion44

3 ай бұрын

You make some good points but I'll add that Honda I believe bases it's outboard boat engines off their car designs. And an outboard can be expected to run full power for hours at a time.

@ronsflightsimlab9512

3 ай бұрын

So... Been flying stuff a while. I've got a ton of friends who have ended up gliding Continental and Lycoming engines to a landing. Things fail. And in this case, it's an Auto engine that costs a fraction of the others, and has a HEAP of other benefits. Personal choice... I'm going to give the 130 a try in a couple years.

King Air 350's 200's & 90's are a very fun to fly

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I dream of flying those 😎✈️👍

That flex plate is bent. I hope you replaced it before it cracks. Ooops, guess I should have waited. LOL

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Yes, the vibration was very noticable . Fortunately I had my existing plate to swap.

I had to change one cylinder on a Cessna 152 with travel to and from Ft Lauderdzle to lake Ocachobee, Fl to get a new jug,it took 2 days

Very rarely, high time engines just gradually failed or failed a cylinder blow down test, it does not strand the people at remote airports. 2000 hours equal around 120,000 miles in a car and that is low milage. But this make started life as a used engine and who knows how much is already on the clock. Most people, if they did a precaution landing and found lots of oil on the dipstick and just some smoke in the cabin, would have just top up the oil and flew back to home base to work on the plane.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I has done a blowdown and compression test just prior to this trip. All was great. I equate the mileage different . I think my mileage at 1200hrs is close to 120000 miles in a car . The loss of compression was the grounding reason. If I was remote in the brush, I may have attempted flying to an airport. The purchase papers showed the engine below 100 miles, but who knows for sure .

@redlywaxer

7 ай бұрын

Going forward, I like the 0W-30 you got way better than the fuel conserving 0W-20 in an overworked, high-revving commuter car engine. In fact, if no catalyst like in your set up, I would boost the antiwear too. Hotshot secret sells a good additive or just use a higher performance synthetic oil. You really want something better than M1, which is just fine in a commuter car, non-critical application.

At 26:13, you have the wiring passing behind a motor mount bracket. It comes out from behind in a tight spot on the top of the bracket. It appears to break over the sharp edge of the bracket on the top side. If its making contact, eventually the wiring will wear through from chafing. Id suggest either re routing the wire so it is outside the engine mount bracket, or attaching a softener to the sharp edge. The former would be the best option IMO.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

If you are referring to this loom wiring ,it is just two thin wires protected in a loom and zip tied to prevent movement. If it is something else , please show a pic 😎👍 thanks for looking .

@harescrambled

7 ай бұрын

​@@Texxas750Cruzer drive.google.com/file/d/1-p8ocAHOVciulVu2QU56eJ5ru6hHshA4/view?usp=drivesdk

If you could custom order/rebuild an engine that issue may be solved with a piston meant for a turbo application, they are more resistant to detonation and splitting due to detonation in an automotive style engine.

I'd suggest pointing the crankcase breather out the bottom of the cowling instead of directly onto the hottest part of the exhaust. Burp enough oil out that breather and you will have a fire for sure with the current setup. I've honestly never seen a setup on any engine where the crankcase breather is sprayed onto the exhaust.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I now use a catch can , and hose is vented out bottom of cowling . 😎👍

Glad you both are safe and recovered from this situation. How are you going to limit your max rpm on the replacement engine?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I adjust blade pitch limit, via the rod in the hub.

Dave... Excellent video report. Please tell us how many miles your new engine had on it from its auto days. That would be good to have on record here. Thanks.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

No idea. Viking only stocks low mileage though.

@rmm9676

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Hi Dave... I believe the VIN # can give you this information. Just ask Alissa to assist. The "junkyard engine" comment below is a common snipe at Viking. Good to dispel that here.

Wonderful documenting all you've done and your findings. Very nice workmanship, and she looks great. I thought max rpm for Viking 130 is around 5400, but it sounded to me like you said you occasionally run up to 6,000 RPM? If so, why? Also, wonder if the rubbing of the engine cowl may have been caused by a slight engine offset?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I run to higher to Test limits outside of standard. So the normal user should have no worries 😎👍

I was like what is a high speed taxi test?

If the exhaust was quieter you could mabey hear the detonation (known as pinging) and reduce the throttle before damage.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Too subtle to notice. The engine adjusts mostly very well , but testing isnt always easy on parts.

I would not recommend attaching to the engine mount unless you use adell clips. The hoses you have rubbing on the frame will eventually will rub through frame with vibration.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

1200 hrs and all looks just fine. Areas that rub or could rub , have standoffs or are secured as to no movement . Adel clamps are fine too. Zip ties are doing very well and prefer those iver adels for loose hoses and wiring .

Whether the ECU will accept it or not. A stand alone Knock Indicator could easily be added...

@chippyjohn1

7 ай бұрын

It has a knock sensor, so if tuned properly it should detect knock and adjust tune or notify pilot.

I’ve watched your video twice because it’s so entertaining, particularly with all the plot twists. Locking the keys in the truck probably topped them all after what you just accomplished. I swear that same kind of stuff happens to me all the time; in fact, my daughter is always laughing about. It’s comforting to know that I’m not the only one. Loved your perseverance! I have a certified aircraft and I’ve been envious of the experimental world. I am fascinated with Viking and Aeromomentum engines (It seems like Jan and Alissa does a great job at customer service). I have one question: Are there two ECU’s? If one goes out, you switch to the other - how does that work? Thank you for your time and the great video!

@Texxas750Cruzer

4 ай бұрын

Good morning 🤠☕️ I'm happy to hear ya enjoyed the video. We tried to make the experience educational,👍 vs frustrating .👎 The locked keys, made the day much longer, as we were exhausted and were ready to relax . Overall , it showed us how difficult breaking down could be. We were fortunate to land where we did, vs out in a pasture. Hopefully this wont occur again . As far as ECU. It is a single unit. I am not personally aware of any customer units going bad. I have tested several , with different tuning . I did have one beta test unit tuned for low octane , it shut off at low altitude. At the time , there wasn't a planned emergency procedure for that situation . It would not restart. Ended up doing a dead stick onto a main city road . No damage. Since I was testing , I had the main ECU on board too. I swapped and restarted. Took off. Now, if anything happens , the procedure is to turn off all power ( reboots ecu ) and power back on, restart. Overall a very reliable system. 1200 hrs going strong.

@jeffreyhughes7107

4 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Wow, thank you for taking the time “Texx” for the thorough response! Good morning! I had seen a video with a kit P51 using a Chevy LS3 and the ECU failed which ended in a crash (no time to manually drop the gear), no injuries thankfully. That made me think about having two ECU’s controlled by one switch (up is ecu 1 and down is ecu 2). Treat them like mags; so during the run up, you would switch between ECU’s to test them. As you said, they’re very reliable… that’s me thinking again without car conversion experience. One observation I’ve made: Zenith owners tend to be more open minded towards car conversion (Viking) and a lot more laid back in general while owners of another brand, whose initials rhymes with RV, not so much. I’m not saying they’re mean just not so open to “non traditional” engines. I prefer low wing XC so my mind is there but I am drawn to Zenith due to the culture and that the nose wheels are steerable (I currently own a Cherokee). Thank you again from NC.

That engine has 1200 hrs. Equivalent of going uphill at 70 mph. You have gotten your money worth

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

It is torn apart. Everything specs to within limits. I've replaced the cracked piston and i'm going to replace the other 3 as well. Give it a fresh start. Valve guide seals also refreshed, because it was cheap . This engine will return to service. 🤓👍

Glad you are both safe. I dont know if you remember but we met a few weeks ago at El Dirado texas fueling up. We discussed me maybe moving over to a viking. we both were headed out west. Curious did you lose your engine on that trip or at some other point? Robert

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Yes, i recall 😎 It was that trip , on the day of returning .

I've been a journeyman mechanic all of my life since the early 1960's. I've worked on every kind of engine you can think ofl. Eventually ended up on Honda motorcycles/atv's etc. Honda makes some of the best engines on the planet (and is the largest engine manufacturer in the world (all types). In my early years I worked on a lot of air cooled, individual cylinder engines (like Wisconsins). Mostly in trenchers, wood chippers etc. The current "state of the art" air-cooled aircraft engines are dinosaurs of the past. Push rods, huge tolerances, uneven cooling, carburetors etc etc. Air cooled engines of that type are ok for wood chippers but the fact that they are still used in aviation is mind numbing! Look at the advances is auto engines during the same time frame! Lycoming and Continental and the rest should be ashamed! Like Harley Davidson selling 1930's vintage engines, they continue to sell that junk because there are people out there willing to BUY IT! Time to bring the general aviation market into the new century (which is 24 yrs old already). With the state of technology available today, it seems like a "no brainer" that SOMEONE would bring a modern, liquid cooled state of the art engine into general aviation! Stay with it!!

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

AMEN !!😎👍

@xpsmango4146

7 ай бұрын

Very well said, Continental, Lycoming & Rotaxes are dinosaurs of aviation ! It is not only mind-bogling but also so tragic tthat they are still stuck with old technology while liquid cooled engines hv advanced to high level.

@harescrambled

7 ай бұрын

The engines you refer to are both simple and rugged. As an example...new tech engines use oil pressure driven cam chain tensioners. If your oil pressure gets low, your cam chain loosens up, starts slapping around, and you find this out when it jumps time and quits. Now you're in a glider with stubby wings. With one of the dinosaur engines if your oil pressure gets a bit low you see it on the gauge or get an alarm and hopefully limp it in to a safe landing

@xpsmango4146

7 ай бұрын

@@harescrambled I agree there may be a few advantages to these air cooled. IC Engines hv advanced tremendously in these last 2 decades, while these areo engines stagnate. To me it is shocking that used Yamaha engines are being installed in LSAs, surely cost is not the deciding factor here.

@Cr480mx

7 ай бұрын

100% agree. It's time. Unfortunately, there's zero desire and effort to truely innovate in GA. There's no money in it. Why? Because everything is outrageously expensive. Why is it expensive? Certifications and insurance. It also doesn't help the FAA is still a beurocratic dinosaur that continues to live in the 1960s.

Why would anyone ever aim the end of the vent tube at the exhaust header?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Any liquid comes out , gets burned off instantly . Under normal use , I dont see anything . Engine runs clean , not like a Corvair ,that needs a catch can .

In the hood I’ve seen Hondas smoke for years lol she had another 1000 hours😂

If u do fresh up old motor you can by lots of race parts for honda id go with stronger piston and rings and bearing it would take 6 grand all day for and cam shaft of course few hundred extra bucks go a long way but thought I'd throw that out there

Yo texxas! (First time watcher, enjoyed your adventure!) Question. And probably a hot debate. Cost difference between regular and premium say $.50? Say 8 gal an hour? X 1200 hours = $4800 savings in fuel... vs premium im not sure thats worth the savings? Just food for thought.. but im a premium snob in my daily driver so im not the right person to ask... but my thoughts are premium burns better, cleaner, more power, more efficiency, longer engine life... these are NOT facts these are my opinions. Curious your thoughts

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

I detonated prior to 87 oct tuning. So will have to retest. The engine is built for 87. So...lets find out :)

OnStar

Ya for a little car motor to run full out then 5 6 grand on cruise speed no wonder rings are done at 1200 hrs

Is that engine injected? I'm planning a Subi conversion with light turbo boost for launch if needed. Are you planning a catch can? And is your crankcase atmo or vacuum? What time limit do you give your plugs, COPs, and controller? Do you have a way to temp sense each cylinder? Maybe a T-couple to each plug? There is a lot of data one can glean from experimental pilots who build their own. Glad you are one of the surviving types! Fair skies and tailwinds for your travels amigo!

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Yes , guel injected. Catch can added. Atmospheric. Plugs last forever. No limit yet . No temp setup per cylinder. Had that on previous corvair. Going to add an O2 sensor soon.

Id pull the original engine apart and see why it failed.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Plan is pull apart this week. Borescope showed crack piston. ( likely from detonation while Tuning the ECU to run 87 octane.) This truly was a Test engine to push limits. Thus making the engine safer for others. 😎👍

@wb6anp

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer I saw the crack later in the video had to do something so didnt watch in one sitting.

@kenfawcett4006

7 ай бұрын

Bummer. The best news is you didn't ignore the smoke and keep flying. I like to think of getting 2k with engine still running and then the MOH per the book. Good luck with the new block and thanks for sharing your adventure. I'm really interested in the 3 cylinder Chevy. Has Jan done anything more with that if you know?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

@@kenfawcett4006 yes, Viking (Jan) has been flight testing it. Should be out soon I suspect .

@markhuguet

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Please make a video of that, I would like to see how it failed.

1:30 and 25:50 Why on Earth is your crankcase breather aimed directly at your hot exhaust instead of going out the bottom of the cowling by the firewall?! Smoke from burning oil? No surprise there. In my 40th year as an A&P.

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

As per Viking. I have Moved it to a catch can , that goes out bottom. Now the other side of that sword. If the slight smoke had not entered the cabin, I likely would have vented all oil without knowing, much further from airport and landed in the desert or mountains. So, still on the fence. It was a nice early alert.

Thanks for sharing. Glad everything could be sorted out on the ground safely. Just curious, what is the actual Honda engine code for that engine? What car is it from?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

It is from the Honda Fit, which is now discontinued in USA.

@markthibault8579

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Great car. Too bad they don't sell them here anymore.

@aeth450

7 ай бұрын

Also known as Honda Jazz in some countries

That is seriously impressive. Over 1,000 hours on an unmodified junkyard auto engine, revving its head off the whole time, I never would have guessed that they could last as long as that... absolutely amazing. With a decent ECU and tuning, I can't imagine why this engine wouldn't have made it to 2,000 hours. I guess a lean cylinder is one downside of having the exhaust collector integrated into the head, you can't really have EGT probes for each cylinder to monitor them individually. This engine should definitely be making use of a knock sensor, if it's not already. I always thought the flex plate was an odd choice, why not a lightweight flywheel?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

In fairness, this engine was testing outside of the ECU limits occasiinally , to find new limits to optimize. For instance , it has a 87 octane tune. Not premium. To save $$ . It was hard tested in sustained high rpm climbs , steep descents , etc. Im surprised it lasted this long. Lol. Great engine . Next one , i will baby 🤠

@PistonAvatarGuy

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Even more impressive, then!

@keithmurphy9404

7 ай бұрын

Interesting choice of words “ junk yard engine”. These engines have never seen a junk yard. The wrecked cars are purchased at auction by corporations that make up a billion dollar industry. Cars are reduced to their parts and they are sold to the secondary market.

@PistonAvatarGuy

7 ай бұрын

@@keithmurphy9404 As far as the engine is concerned, there's no real difference there. I'm sure that there's some additional control over the quality of the engines that you get that way, but they're still used engines that could have been mistreated and/or poorly maintained by their previous owners. I'd never trust an engine like that in an aircraft, I'd want it rebuilt and I'd want stronger, race spec components installed.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

@@PistonAvatarGuy Takes alot to get ya to trust...lol ... 4 years , 1200 hours , flew all lower 48 states in a record 10.5 days , never added engine oil 😎👍. 50 hrs in one month challenge completed. Not sure of ANY other flying engine that could match that. Or has tried. All this time, only engine maint needed was oil changes . Pretty trustworthy i'd say 🥰

That's such a small load area for such a large truck.

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

Avalanche. Great truck

Perhaps torque spec marks for future quick inspection reference?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I think about the torque paint stuff and then forget. Lol. Going to amazon now ...and ordered. Orange 😉👍

28:27 not a good idea to have broken pieces in the air! Think if it can block movement of that arm or lever going through it. This bracket has a bad design, to start with. Way too thin, considering alloy, vibrations & forces acting on it. The only reliable long lasting way of going low octane is reducing compression (like for ex., double head gaskets) but with reduced power output. Quick & well done swap overall, considering situation. Just an afterthought, are these pistons forged or cast from the factory? Very beautiful landscape & picture! Wish you all the best!

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, bracket design needs refined. It flew 100's of hours without the bracket upgrade part. So not concerned going back to previous no bracket setup. This Honda runs 87 in a auto . Viking tunes their own ECU and prefers Mid to Premium. I wanted 87 , so we tried it. It works fine. Somewhere along the line , prior to the low octane tuning , it detonated on 87 . Oops

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Cast on pistons

@slopetechno

5 ай бұрын

Isn't this an L15B @@Texxas750Cruzer ? If so it looks to me like Honda wants 91 for its 11.5:1 compression. I'm sure you've done your homework, but 87 seems to me to be pushing it with compression that high.

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

@@slopetechno the stock honda fit engines are designed to run regular grade. Viking recommends Mid or premium . The tuning is good for regular , so why not save a bit of $ if possible. 🤓

What was involved in your choice of airplane ? No offense, just wondering ? Thanks for the video !

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Cost, reliability, two passenger, descent cross- country capable , yet able to land short and slow when needed ( Safe) and Easy to build quickly 😎✈️

@juliojames5986

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Thanks…I did not know it was a kit plane. Great views too I would think…Thanks

a scavenger bottle would be really handy as well so you know how much you are losing.

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

added thank you

So what happens with the prior engine, is it a core charge or rebuild and put it on the shelf for future use?

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Gonna open it up, see how she is. Go from there 👀🍿

@kmg501

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Okay, hopefully you at least get a rebuilt motor to put on the shelf.

Do you need drysump oil system for car engine use in airplane?

Have you seen Taurus mufflers? A cyclonic type that works well.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

No I havnt . Got a link to share ?

What do you think about the hoses/conduits laying directly on top of the alternator??

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

ALL hoses and wiring are secured , either ziptied or with rubber standoffs. Nothing is rubbing. There is slack where needed , to allow for engine vibration to engine mount. If ya see something that looks like it is not good , point it out specifically please. More eyes the better. This securing method has worked fine for last four years and 1200 hrs. See no reason to change it. 🤓👍

Hay Sr. I'd like to hear back from ya when ya have a minute , Thank you! Do you use Marvel Mystery oil in your fuel?

@Texxas750Cruzer

6 ай бұрын

Negative. No additives.

@justinparker7795

6 ай бұрын

I have a 1958 172 with an O-300 and it runs so much smuther! its been around for years, ask Jon about . I'm working on putting the 195 Turbo hp Honda in this plane. thats why I'm intrested in all ya do. Thanks man! @@Texxas750Cruzer

That seems really sensible running your breater onto the engine pipes... thats smoke and fire country \

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it is also a very early warning indicator. In this scenario, I likely would have had to land in the desert or mountains , if I hadn't smelled smoke.

Are you going to rebuild the engine? Maybe experiment with different style of pistons?

@Texxas750Cruzer

6 ай бұрын

Still undecided. But if I rebuild ,it will be stock. $$

Why not rent a trailer and trailer the plane to Houston? I'm not saying one is better or worse, just wondering if you considered it and what the difference in labor and cost would be.

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

In this situation...The time to get a trailer , remove wings , load plane, trailer it 1000 miles without damage , then reinstall wings ... It was much faster to swap engines. Now , if the new engine had issues... then yes, I would have likely removed wings and trailered.

Disadvantage of an automotive engine normal aircraft repair shop at most airports can't overhaul it, but advantage is lot less costly repair replacing with another Honda engine. Does it have logging show knock sensor indicating knocking? I would be surprised if that engine had pre-detonation because they are designed for 87 octane although I suppose computer is not the same as the Honda OEM.

@Texxas750Cruzer

3 ай бұрын

No logging. Car engine is faster and cheaper by far to repair . It is good to have mechanic skills too. I simply could not afford to fly , if I had to use a certified plane.

@Mike-01234

3 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer I agree I'm in the same boat wanted to buy last year prices got so high I'm stuck on the ground. I have lot of skills with all kinds of non aviation engines. I like Honda engines can't beat Japanese engineering. Reason Honda and Toyota are some of the most reliable cars made.

I am waiting on the autopsy

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Delayed .. but on my list to do asap

Whats the biggest viking engine that will fit on a kitfox? Hp wise and weight? I always wondered why you would spend $45k on a rotax 915 to get 141 hp.

@Texxas750Cruzer

4 ай бұрын

Sorry, Not familiar with the Kitfox limits .

Didn't the knock sensor/ECU/display give you warning that detonation was occurring? I don't think this particular engine design is the best choice for aircraft, the design as a whole is not great. That intake manifold looks as though its designed for 12k rpm. How did the flexplate bend, quality viking.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I use a MGL screen , no knock display. My testing put it out of Viking limits , prior to getting readjusted. I feel this is the BEST aircraft engine for 130hp. Hard to go ~1200 hrs only changing oil . 😎👍 48 states without having engine issues or adding oil is not doable with Any other engine i'm aware of. Certainly not certified. I now have a fresh 130 and would challenge any engine to a endurance flight test 🤠🏆

@chippyjohn1

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer I use motec display/ecu for solely engine parameters with a Suzuki M series engine. The Suzuki is much better by design in my opinion, even routing the coolant hoses is easier, you can have them come from the front or rear of the engine. Simpler valvetrain, no vvt, great engine. Certified engines are far behind, wouldn't choose any of them. Safe flying.

Whats the price difference between a Rotax 914 and a Viking. My 912ULS went s 2200 before the previous owner replaced and I got the plane with 150 hours on the reman

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Google. I do not work for any company , im a customer 🤠✈️

@EricHaskins71

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer ok I was asking for a base price to compare.... as I am debating building one of these currently I fly a Remos G3 and the the nose wheel doesnt seem too stout so I want an additional airplane for Off Airport / Backcountry

how did you resolve the belt out of track?

@charosenz

7 ай бұрын

Disregard, I see you added washers.

How much $$ did this set you back?

@Texxas750Cruzer

4 ай бұрын

It actually only needed 1 piston and a set of rings , tube of permatex, and a head gasket. 🤓👍 , but since I was torn down , I replaced all pistons & rings and valve guide seals. Total needed $125 ish. Total spent, ~$500.🤓

What does the actuator rod that goes through the broken bracket actuate plz?

@PistonAvatarGuy

7 ай бұрын

I was wondering that as well. I think that it controls the propeller pitch.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Yes, it controls the Prop pitch. The bracket isn't needed, but I haven't removed it yet.

Rather have a 2000 hour motor,that's what jabiru is offering in there new motor

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

Two points... if not abused , the Honda 130 is capable of going past 2000. Second... I've never seen, or heard of a Jabiru make it even close to 2000 without issues . Can you send me a link to it ?

@kevinswanson3910

5 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer they have vids showing a breakdown of the new generation 4 engine on you tube,they put hallow push rods for oiling cast the block ,cylinder bolts changed and they used it to a 2000 hour motor according to them

@Texxas750Cruzer

5 ай бұрын

Pushrods are old school , so is air cooled and having to adjust the mixture . I do not miss that type of engine. Not fun flying. To each their own . I will stick with a liquid cooled , fuel injected .

@kevinswanson3910

5 ай бұрын

Yes that's bin a true fact ,but I would think of getting fuel injection. saw a ch 701 new with a new jabiru 2200,also found one at a good price without an engine,was lo0king at options.

What honda engine was used? Usually honda engines are very reliable and stout.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Honda 130 , out of a Honda fit 2019 in my case

okay, i give. Car engine or bust, despite exhaust valve carbon of direct injection. Because the cost of Aviation motors that only run on dumb Av gas is sensless.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

ACTUALLY, the carbon is vented overboard , not back onto valves . One of the perks of being in an airplane. So I get the benifits and not the negatives . 😎👍

@jayterrill3252

4 ай бұрын

Intake valve carbon

That exhaust manifold setup looks bad for the engine

Should have shipped it to where your airplane is.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Time and cost. I had to go home to get my truck ( to bring broke engine back , and have wheels while we stayed) and engine lift, tools etc . Faster and cheaper this way vs buying tools and shipping engine back , ect...

Missing nut on lower alternator attachment bracket.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Good eye , It is threaded 😉. But Ty for looking closely 😎👍🏆

@waynetokarz174

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer thanks but treaded should have lock wire. Some would agree to just a lock washer.

@harescrambled

7 ай бұрын

A jam nut would work as well

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

@@waynetokarz174 Not true on lock wiring . It is a auto engine. Never see safety wired anything on normal cars. A nut on backside of the threaded bolt is fine for peace of mind . 👍

How the heck does a oven break...

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

I don't follow 🤔

@kmg501

7 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer I think you mentioned that when you were at the Holiday Inn that they couldn't serve you a hot breakfast because the oven was broken.

I would never use Mobil 1 i blew a engine in my car using it years ago. I used Royal Purple in my race car for 5 season's and after totaling that car i pulled that engine and removing the heads that engine showed very little wear.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Honda likes M1. Viking recommended M1at the time. Now just a 0W-20 . I did a bit of gearbox testing of every oil I could find . Royal purple foamed/Airated , more than M1 90w .and gearbox ran warmer as well. I had expected the opposite . Project farm tested oils . Maybe watch that again for engine. 👍

I thought this engine was direct injection? Detonation should be a thing.

@Texxas750Cruzer

6 ай бұрын

The tuning is Not a Honda ECU. It is re-tuned for max HP at a lower RPM. But it was tuned for premium. It didnt enjoy 87 oct power climbs I guess. 😉

Took me 30 minutes to remember the dang question I was gonna ask lol. Did you have any problems getting insurance for your aircraft since it was a non certified engine ? And who did you use ? Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions

@Texxas750Cruzer

4 ай бұрын

www.acrisure.com/aerospace

@Texxas750Cruzer

4 ай бұрын

I did chose to get some transition training . 5 hrs I think at the time.

What’s the gph

@Texxas750Cruzer

6 ай бұрын

22-23 avg

Unreal complexity vs conventional aircraft engine.

Get a magnetic key box.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

?

@Tryagain205

6 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750CruzerI think he’s referring to your locking your keys in your truck. You can purchase a small key box with a magnet on it to attach to the underside of your vehicle housing a spare key inside.

try cbr1000 engine

Probably better off with a super expensive mazda rotary wanky.

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Lol

When this car ebgine was being made, honda struggled with its f1engine... think about it...

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

Im still happy with it. Most private pilots fly less than 50 hrs a year . So this engine would have lasted close to 24 years , without issue 😎👍

@PistonAvatarGuy

7 ай бұрын

Honda engines have been dominating F1 for three years now.

@Tryagain205

6 ай бұрын

@@Texxas750Cruzer Wow! Great information.

Get a real engine (MWFly;)

@Texxas750Cruzer

7 ай бұрын

MW?