Women as a protected group in Viking society makes sense from a inheritance perspective. One woman bears a child (usually) one at a time. Men can father numerous children within the span of one woman’s pregnancy. This may imply that men are more dispensable in terms of procreation. Since women are, arguably, of greater value, protecting them is equivalent to protecting the future of the group, tribe, or nation.

@borgyoh

Жыл бұрын

And now feminism has weakened these great cultures, only one has to do is look at the news...high divorce rates, crime, invaders...

@manohman8587

Жыл бұрын

Well true but without men there is no Viking so no future too

@LiamMacD

Жыл бұрын

@@manohman8587 The same argument could be made for women. So I don’t really see your point…

@manohman8587

Жыл бұрын

@@LiamMacD yeah that's the thing but it won't be Instant death and they could raid and take woman from other clans villages and in all honesty we both need each other

@LiamMacD

Жыл бұрын

@@manohman8587 I absolutely agree that we both need each other, the way our minds work are specifically designed to make up for each other’s downfalls. But You did a bit of a bait and switch here; While viking men could’ve absolutely just raided and taken women, If the Women of the Viking culture were all that was left you seem to have implied that they’d just abandon their entire culture for whatever culture they ended up a part of…. That’s not really how Humans as a whole have ever worked, So I still don’t see how you think the Culture would’ve died without men but not without women…

Could you do a video on historically-accurate Viking hairstyles? There seems to be a lot of confusion as to what is authentic and what just looks cool on TV. Thanks!

I remember seeing something about a woman buried in a warrior grave in Birka Sweden. She must have impressed someone in some way. Dunno if you have heard about it.

Excellent and well made video as always. Thanks for all your hard work 😊

Man this is such a cool channel! Hilsener fra Danmark :)

@SupremePumper

Жыл бұрын

Ja han laver rigtig, RIGTIG mange spændende videoer!

@Wiwaz

Жыл бұрын

Han er en af drengene

You do a great job at being entertaining and educating. Keep it up man it must be hard work putting this together with such little information! I received my norse calendar the other day too; thank you so much!

More than likely women fighting were involved in incidental occurrences where they were swept up in the action.

@Lukeandrewscarnivore

Жыл бұрын

Most probably. Good observation.

@hgriff14

Ай бұрын

they probably trained to help protect the settlements when the men were out raiding but were most likely a last resort. there could have been a few women that could fight and raid just looking at some of the crossfitters now from iceland, but someone has to take care of the farm and kids.

Great talk! Time well spent!

Like Eowyn, Shield Maiden of Rohan! 🤔😁👍🏻

There was a dig a little while ago that was recently found that found a woman buried with a full compliment of battle gear, an ax, sword, and remains of a shield. The archeologists believe that she was a Sheild Maiden but can't verify it. And they do not know who she was. I'm not sure where the grave was found, I want to say Denmark but like I said, I am not sure. Good video Ťhor! And thanks for citing all of these sources. I'll have to read them when the sun actually shows up & it becomes scalding hot! 😁😂😁

Interesting you mentioned sagas or legends of women east of Scandinavia. Last year I did a research project on the Artemis of Ephesus goddess/cult, which I'm still working part-time. Like you mentioned plenty of times, sources for ancient events are frustratingly rare and fragmented. With many many hours spent I got a rough outline of the history behind Artemis of Ephesus. The cult of Artemis was a female superiority cult, today we call that "radical feminism" as they have so much in common. Artemis cult is radical feminism on double steroids though. The problem is myth mixed with historical "facts" and the story gets very blended as you go back in time. This story is unique as it starts out with fairly historical type information, THEN mythology gets mixed with historical events, and then its off to the races. The Amazons appear to a real group of women horse warriors who originated in the steppe region north of the Black Sea. They may have been a branch of or had some affiliation with the Scythians who also were horse warriors. Recent archeology has uncovered at least one female grave with weapons and showing muscle strain on joints. She was bigger than average compared to Med Sea region. Very noticeable was how bow-legged she was, indicating lots of time riding horse from an early age. The Amazons would mate with a man in a nearby tribe. It appears this was done on an individual basis, the Amazon going over and picking her mate. If the baby was a girl and healthy they'd keep it. If it was a boy they'd offer back to the father's tribe and if they refused it then it'd be abandoned to die. Somewhere in time the myths of the pagan gods get intertwined with probably real people in their group or close to them. However, when and how the female-only tribe got its start and what caused it seem lost to history. As time goes on the myth part grows more and more prominent until it ends up in Ephesus as a very complex goddess cult, having taken on parts from many belief systems. The cult was extremely anti-male in every way they could be. Men were subservient while the women were loud and in charge. It just occurred to me that one thing the women did not do was going to war or any military type activity. That seems odd given how radical they were about usurping the traditional roles of men. The only "violence" I found was a requirement for males if they wanted to work in the temple. They had to castrate themselves and offer their testicles as a burnt offering to Artemis. Just thought I'd drop a note on info I found that seems match with some of your comments. Plus I share the frustration of not having much source material and what is available is often fragmentary at best. One other note.... it was not unusual for women and wives to follow armies. A few notable examples are the Romans, Napoleon and the US Civil War. I get a general feeling that women came along or not, all depended on the circumstances of where the army was going, etc.

@ChristianCatboy

Жыл бұрын

Interesting... I've been trying to study Greco-Roman paganism, to help me deconstruct my understanding of Christianity. I didn't know the cult of Artemis was so radically feminist! One thing I have been learning is that a lot of the New Testament isn't being interpreted very intelligently, because the context behind a lot of it has been lost. For instance, some of the Pauline passages that sound horribly misogynistic to modern ears (and continue to be used as such by conservatives) may actually have been directed at some of these really aggressive goddess religions.

Thank you for your insight, it's great to distinguish fiction from reality or from percieved truths. 👍

What do you make of the "Birka woman " ?

I love your humour!

First big fan of the channel and thank you for give honest and real information on the religion and how to practice historical as possible. This has definitely help me and my path of practicing the germanic/norse religion. I do have question , I have lightly looked into the story of Erik the Red and the story that his daughter had her own ship and crew. How true is do you think the source are? I genuinely would like to hear your opinion

Love your videos

@SulphurBorne

Жыл бұрын

Same brother

Also worth noting that the motif of the "Shield maiden/virgin" motif appears in many mythologies, including the Greek/Roman stories in the form of Athena and Artemis, et. al. The idea of the "Sacred Feminine" wielding both the weapons of masculine/linear/yang in the form of the Spear, whilst also protecting from violence with the implement of feminine/circular/yin in the form of the Shield (offense & defense in one) and hence being the holders of deepest wisdom with regards to matters of War, is very common. After all, it is their sons who will be sent off to die (see also the female Oracle at Delphi, Volvua, etc...). This was so well known that even Tacitus remarks, rather perplexedly, that the Germans would not go to war without consulting women (imagine that?!?!?), and there are accounts of "War Witches", if you like, doing their work from a safe distance, while still being present at the battle. Virtually all Indo-European legends use the esoteric, literary imagery of the paradoxical "Warrior Woman" to represent the joining of opposites in harmony, rather than as a literal depiction of history. As you so rightly mentioned at the start, the idea of sending women off to die in battle would have been abhorrent and shameful beyond measure, and rightly so in an age where physical strength mattered most in warfare. You would be sending your most valuable people to their death. Nothing could be more disrespectful. This basic concept of "leave the women and children out of it" is simply the indigenous, ancient form of "chivalry" that has always existed in Northern Europe. Note, Caesar refused to allow the women and children go at Elysium, but instead chose to let them starve to death in No Man's Land, rather telling of the two cultures, I'd say. Keep up the great work!

@thegreenmage6956

Жыл бұрын

That’s Alesia, siege at the last stand of Vercingetorix. Not Elysium, Greek heaven paradise.

Good video ⚔️

You are not bias by speaking truth. Throughout history including Norse ...women were not the Hollywood version kick butt super women of fantasy. But they probably did keep their men in line😎

I am so glad have discovered your channel...most likely due to Heilung some how. 😀 Thank you for the history!

If you havent yet can you make a video about Skol and Hati or nidhoggr

Makes me think about a Frisian (Frya's children) story about their Maidens that played a main role in their/my ancestors culture. Nothing was done without their (the Maidens) advice on the subject and everybody had to practice fighting skills once a week. So that's why the women could fight also and were very well capable of defending themselves and their community if needed. These women were very special and were stolen by other tribes like the Huns/Hungarians, which they called the Magyards if i remember correctly, and the Finns. Their offspring was used to infiltrate the Fryan community because it was the only way to overthrow the Fryans and their slave free existence. Yes, they were hated by the priests and kings for this, but loved by the people world wide because they had a very high developed society and culture in which every human is equal....well we know who won eventually, now don't we? 😂 I don't know if I'm entirely correct on the details but in one of the stories they came to the main Maiden burcht on Texel Island where the eternal flame was kept burning ever since they received the power of fire from the beginning of time. In one of the raids the Finns managed to extinguish the flame and kill the Maiden, but not after she first put up a fight with her large sword that she swung 3 times above her head.....and most likely wounded or killed/decapitated a few of these basterds (nothing against the Finnish people btw, really like my northern brothers and sisters) So it's very possible that that's where the stories of fighting maidens comes from. They also used a yule (six spoke wheel/flower of life) writing system which is the predecessor of our writing and numbers today. They look like runes, but they're not. This stuff is hardly ignored and denied by the establishment and considered the be a hoax and racist. I and many others think it is our true history, and there are many other incredible stories where this one came from. In my opinion it resembles a lot like the Bock saga and is very interesting to say at least. Just wanted to share this with you. Keep up the great work, and good luck with the channel and all the other stuff you do. If you ever get bored of that girlfriend of yours, just hit me up and we'll fix a Frisian girl for you 😂 You really make her sound terrible when you mention her 😂.....i bet she kicked your ass for that 😂 Men and their humor....🤣

@Grainne007

Жыл бұрын

Check out Kat The Fryan on here. Her channel is a hidden gem of knowledge on what you mentioned. ✨️

@StedeGrooves

Жыл бұрын

@@Grainne007 thanks, i follow her already and her channel is a gem indeed, but i really question her motives because it seems to be a "white" thing with her when she mentions Adolf & Co and the Fryans ways in one breath......they have nothing in common and the Fryans are turning in their graves for that. So i suggest to be careful and not fall for the sweet little lies here and there and that they are her interpretations of it all. She seems very knowledgeable about many things and she has an interesting perspective on many things, so that's why i follow her. So thanks for your reply

@anoordman1028

Жыл бұрын

Frisian pride 👍

I come from Albania and not so long ago there was, and still rarely, the practice of blood revenge in disputes. The entire male line can be wiped out, but it is completely forbidden to kill women and children

I heard too about female warrior burial. Could you make a video about it?

Could you do a video on heathen marriage

"Many of THE GERMANS, too, from across the Rhine, advanced as far as Italy and inflicted many injuries upon the Romans. They were in turn attacked by Marcus, who sent to them his lieutenants Pompeianus and Pertinax; and Pertinax, who later became emperor, greatly distinguished himself. AMONG THE CORPSES OF THE BARBARIANS THERE WERE FOUND WOMEN'S BODIES IN ARMOUR.” - Cassius Dio

I'd love to know your opinion on that Manga/Anime Vinland saga. I think you may like it. seeing a comparison between Vinland saga and the actual sagas.

@kev1734

Жыл бұрын

It's over the top and outrageous but I enjoyed it lol I lost it when he pulls out that giant oar!

hey man id like to hear your thoughts on the Lords of Chaos film, and the types of black metal u listen to.

Interesting video, could it be we have a lack of historical sources regarding strong women due to the influx of Christianity during this time which was a purely monastic view of society? If we look back further then we have Boudica who destroyed 3 major British city's way before Viking times, so is it not possible for women to have lead but just not reported? Just my thoughts brother. Skal

@thegreenmage6956

Жыл бұрын

Boadicca, pronounced Boadega, or Boadika (not BOOdica as is often heard today) was the wife of a powerful chieftain who rose to avenge the dishonour brought upon her family and her daughters during an inheritance crisis of sorts after the death of her husband. She specifically is described wearing MENS clothing, standing on the back of a chariot, and it was her position and status which afforded her the ability to rouse her husband’s banner men and form a rough militia of neighbouring sub-tribes, perhaps clans. She was practically a Romanised woman by the time this happened, a good few decades into the Roman rule of Britain. She led her people in revenge against Rome when she came to realise it had not enriched them but profited and abused Britannia at their expense. She led a people’s army which burned down three important Roman towns, including the then capital, Colchester, which might have been her home too. They even defeated one Legion. All this, prior to her ill-fated clash with another, very well-trained, battle-hardened Legion fresh off the First Siege of the Holy Isle of Anglesey, the last seat of the Druids, which had become a haven for refugees fleeing Roman aggression. We must consider her story an individual case, motivated by a personal vendetta, and bare in mind there are no accounts of her doing any actual fighting. She took on a leadership role, but even this was shared with her second in command, who may have been her new lover, a man (it was possibly not uncustomary in Celtic societies for high status women and men both to take lovers beside their spouses, and openly so). Even her true name may be lost to us. Boa Dega only means “battle leader” and it may have been a title.

@dingolightfoot8823

Жыл бұрын

He destroyed more than just three and she also murdered at least 80 million people in one city...

@user-io6pj8bz8h

Жыл бұрын

Learn about boudica, she attacked three undefended towns then was slaughtered in her first military engagement.

@randomusername5242

Жыл бұрын

Ah the old, blame the missing evidence on Christianity defense.

@RedemptionDenied666

Жыл бұрын

@@randomusername5242 major copium

I think I’ve heard of archeological finds that female skeletons have been found buried with swords and shields and that it was previously though that all that got weapons in their grave must have been men but then they did dna test and I think it was 50/50 after that. Do you know any more about that?

@emmargaret

Жыл бұрын

There’s a book I read called “The Real Valkyrie” by nancy marie brown, have you read it? It’s interesting & goes over that very thing.

@Das_Pepe

Жыл бұрын

@@emmargaret no I didn’t. What does it say?

@emmargaret

Жыл бұрын

@@Das_Pepe it says there’s many more skeletal remains of women buried with weapons and other things that suggest they fought in battle. The book specifically discusses what life might have been like for a woman whose remains were found in a Birka gravesite. She was buried with two horses, game pieces, and every Viking weapon there was.

@Das_Pepe

Жыл бұрын

@@emmargaret very interesting thanks

Thank you for the closing validation of bad ass women. Lol

How does one drop an idea to you? Regarding your shop Thanks

WHAAAAT... you mean that Hollywood (and other streaming service production companies) aren't the definitive source for such things 🤔

Hi there! Behave! I'm Lagertha watching over you

Women not participating in the battles and fighting make sense to me and our culture through the centuries, it's evident in the practice of saving women and children first in a disaster. But is there historical evidence of women going with men to battle, but being more for medical aid, sympathetic magic practice and to watch stores/supplies etc while the fighting is taking place. These women would need to know how to defend themselves and protect the ships or supplies for when the warriors return. It seems throughout history women have always been "camp followers" and not just to provide "comfort" (wink wink), to the soldiers.

@pauladee6937

Жыл бұрын

Yes thank you of course women fought. Michael was more bias in this video than before.. . seems people here have been scared to speak up til now!'

What are your thoughts of the birka female viking grave found in sweden?

Let me just point out that your work with these videos is very impressive. The fact that you dive in to the hard questions that has almost no source material at all is admirable. I can't think of anyone else that contributes more to popularization of nordic history and heritage. As a scholar it is easy to identify when your presentation slips somewhat. My best suggestion would be to ease up on the use of words like "reality", "how it really was" and such. As you have already stated in earlier videos we simply don't know how it was and yes we are all biased by our modern experience with at least a 1000 years of Christianity. There is no escaping that. If I were to guess Id say that your own viewpoint is largely based on Greek/roman//christian and nordic cultural traditions. These are the traditions that works in the background when we make sense of things, like reaching a sound conclusion. One fact: If you haven't run into them before please check out the research made in old Scythia on female warrior graves. These warriors are probably the origin of the greek concept of Amazon. One hypothesis: The greeks treated women as crap so they were chocked by encountering female warriors. In order to preserve their thinking order (with men on top) at home they hade no choice but to describe them as mythology. Could it be that we see something similar in the sagas? Best of luck with your coming videos.

@pauladee6937

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Finally!!! Someone speaking the truth. The "Being on Top" literally from the reason we have Eve in the Bible and Lilith was demonised. All the way down to modern day. Missing the facts- not myths of Plato and Tacitus writings of Warrior ( Amazon) Women. Also, as mentioned above the Scythians 300 graves of Warrior Women., Huns and yes Scandinavian. The Scholarly/ cultural/ religious viewpoints have corrupted the truth. Micheal, you're knowledgeable teaching to the younger generation not to be Chringe pagans comes with great responsibility to our ancestors. . You stated you weren't going to be bias, yet this had more bias thrown in than ever before. Even re-stating the notion that Shieldmaidens deliver Shields to the Warriors on the field. No that's not logical. You finished off with what you deamed a well deserved and justified joke??? It's wasn't funny. Nor was the other day when you said, "your girlfriend would get mad if she see it. Because you would take a Dutch girl over Scandinavian, because their BETTER. " Wow.

@manohman8587

Жыл бұрын

That is actually not true , the Greeks treated woman fairly well though because only the top class in Greek empire truly had all the luxury and the bottom were treated badly kinda like every our own civilisation with the poor people though so yeah

How about the Bataven?

Wasn't there the real Lagertha Lohbrok, who according to legend, was a Viking ruler and shield-maiden from what is now Norway, and the onetime wife of the famous Viking Ragnar Lodbrok. Her tale was recorded by the chronicler Saxo in the 12th century. One thing that is for sure there may have been women warriors. Never say never LOL.

Perhaps Einarr was called Shield Maiden because he never bore arms and sang of Heroic deeds?

I just want to say that, personally, I consider myself to be a shieldmaiden -- but this is just symbolically, and not meant to signify that I go around wielding the sword and board and that I'm ready to go off to the battlefield. Instead for me it is metaphorical; I'm a fighter, I'm a survivor, my battlefield was not a physical field where blades and axes clash against each other and shields... my battlefield is much more internal -- I was sexually abused at the age of 14, by someone outside of my family, someone I trusted at that time. I've been bullied all of my formative years growing up. And I've been ganged up on and beaten up as an adult. And yet, I still live on. Those past events in my life, still at times traumatize me, but I don't let them define who I am today in a negative way. That's why I'm a shieldmaiden, because I fought to live through the dark and difficult times and I can still walk with my head held high with a genuine smile on my face.

@theripper1705

4 күн бұрын

Moi aussi, tu n'est pas seul. C'est la bataille de la vie qui fait de nous des guerriers. 💪

Can you make a video on women in relation to Norse Paganism? Like what it was like to be a Norse Pagan as a woman?

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Freya goddes of💗💗💗

Through DNA I am technically related to the Female warrior of Birka. Was this person truly Signe?

I wish we still lived by these rules and beliefs. All I’ve ever wanted to be is a wife and mother in a more traditional sense but it’s just no longer possible for the majority of middle class people.

Yeah the “Amazon Women” in Greek Myth were the Scythian Women. They were known as being mainly horse warriors equip with bows, as were the Scythian men. They raided and took over territory by blitzkrieging with short and long range bow shots, and the men specifically would do close range combat on and off horse back. The women were specifically just archers. Yes, their were probably exceptions.

@pauladee6937

Жыл бұрын

Yes thought History there are Shield MAIDS. Amazon's etc.. Plato and Tactidus. Told of Warrior Women. And 300 graves of Scythian Warrior Women.. Michael at this point is being.. Well not Authentic.. Saying again. The whole maids brought the shields to Battlefield?? He Did critique with bias through video and justified lame joke at end..

@threeofeight197

Жыл бұрын

@@pauladee6937 Yeah, I was disappointed because I already knew women weren't typically warriors in the Viking world. I would like to hear about what they DID do. When all the dudes went off to battle I'm sure a few of the most athletic women geared up to protect the women and children that were left behind just in case. There are so many possibilities for what the reality could have been.

Oh no you have brust my bubble no shield maidens 😥😥😥😥

Woman were trained in cambat just men or boys when they were girls .I would say the protected the back area overseas.

Valkyries where always a Force of mother Nature

So basically this thing about shield maiden = women warrior is a myth like amazon in ancient Greece? They didn't exist.

@pauladee6937

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, like Plato and Tacitus are liars spreading storie/ MYTHS of Warrior Women.?? The actual 300 Scythian Warrior Women graves. As well as all the other cultures that denoting Warrior Women are ALL JUST MYTHS.

This is why I dislike a lot of Norse inspired stuff today because while Lagertha was cool to watch in Vikings, she took away from the stories of the other interesting women (like Aslaug) and her large bands of shield maidens were unrealistic. Now, I’ve said that I do believe shield maidens existed many times over and still do, but I do think they were quite rare. Now, I would assume there were a good number of women who at least knew how to defend themselves for when the men went off for months to years at a time but women’s best weapon in Norse society was sorcery from what I’ve read. And I wish that was represented in more of a better light. It’s always a character they want you to despise

You say you like the Bronze Age right did you know Cornwall was in the bronze age

There are many sagas that mention shield maiden, and yes sagas debated on beeing mythical or not. I just read one where there is 300 shield maiden on one side of the field. But Female warrior was always a real thing. Even down to the lombards its stories of female warrior and its hard to argue they pure mythical.

@AirshipNorway

Жыл бұрын

But Great channel

@pauladee6937

Жыл бұрын

You're correct 300 women... The Scholars are debating ??? " " Shield Maids" Are Not Mythological. . At this point im really pissed at Micheal.( saying 100 thousands of examples .. Sending Women back and the ridiculous thing said before, That Women brought the Shields to the battlefield?? Lol.. put) . History for a tell about warrior women.. Many accounts of women leading the battle.. Plato and Tactius talked about AMAZONS as Scythians have 300 archeological women warriors graves.. So Everyone else in the world had warrior women, but not Scandinavian????

The apes 😅

Men & Women determined to try comparing women to men, as equals, in an ability to physically fight,...should probably watch the videos U.S. MARINES put out, over the last few years. There's countless videos of MEN vs WOMEN, on KZread,..showing U.S. Marines, and Army,..as well as MMA fighters. 9 out of 10 times, no matter how skilled the girl is,..the guy's physical differences, makes his strength...laughably greater.

Mær!?

They were small. Skeletal remains show the viking women to average 4'11" and the men at 5'5". Probably due to limited diet.

Could they have been a form of support units, attack the enemy from the back lines. Well protected by the shields of the men in the front lines. A maiden protected by her man's shield, if you will. The idea of a women helping her man by carrying his shield and other gear while he makes ready for battle does sound more reasonable.

@blanketparty5259

Жыл бұрын

no , as I understood, they simply were there yo provide extra shields to men when they needed them

@robertsimpson7424

Жыл бұрын

@@blanketparty5259 It does make more sense doesn't it.

@pauladee6937

Жыл бұрын

Michael is being more biased than ever and said that before.. Did you hear yourselves agreeing that a Defenseless women is carring and protecting her man's shield on the Battlefield.. It not myth

@blanketparty5259

Жыл бұрын

@@pauladee6937 Its not hard for women to stay far beyond the front lines with shields and extra spears or weapons waiting for their men to come back if needed. We all know what roman spears do to shields so it makes sense.

Maybe the women were responsible for taking care of the wounded. You know kind of like a field nurse.

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It makes no sense on it's face. A female MMA fighter might be impressive but pit her against an equivalent male MMA fighter and she'd wind up in the hospital, or worse. The Irish used slave women as "cannon fodder" in front of their armies until the Christian monk Adomnan and his laws stopped the practice. Their wolf hounds were more effective in battle than these women. I agree with Eomer: "War is the province of men, Eowyn." In reality, Eowyn wouldn't have lasted long in battle. Among the Britons, Boudioca, queen of the Iceni, led her tribe in sacking cities and slaughtering thousands. She nearly ended the Roman occupation, but I doubt that she engaged in battle herself. Even so, the Sovereignty aspect of Celtic tribal goddesses, like Macha, Agrona or Brigantia, were all powerful symbols of war and carnage who urged on the men of their tribe to fight for their land.

Woman can be cringe pagans too.- 2022

Greek men did not give their female counterparts many rights at all, see I thought the Romans we're bad, till I learned what the Greeks were like with them, so there is no way they’d of fought on the battlefield with them.

What? Shield Maidens were mythical? Well, Fooey I say!

Though a few of our female relatives would be more than capable......

@threeofeight197

Жыл бұрын

I think an ancient Viking woman could probably beat the average modern man at sword fighting. The average American man that is. ;)

You have made a logical, detailed, and well cited argument that debunks the modern notion of what shield maidens were and how rare warrior women were. I still look forward to the triggered feminazis who will likely sling insults your way while accusing you of misogyny, lol.

Alexander the Great was Macedonian.

I like the fact that there is evidence of there not being shieldmaidens. Women who LARP need the reality.

I don't care as I like in this video .

What about In 1878, archaeologists excavating the Viking town of Birka, Sweden who found a warriors grave and found to be female. Yeah not like there were very many of them but I am sure there were a few. Another thing to keep in mind, those who wrote these sagas were christian men, primarily sexist in their ways will always down play everything women did. Why when the pagan practices were outlawed it was primarily aimed at the practices of women but not men. The mentality of these same men who would like all women to be handmaids will never give credit where it is due. They altered the truth to fit their narrative and christian agenda of subservient pious women.All throughout history, it has always been recorded by men and is his-story. Much of what women did was not recorded.

@blanketparty5259

Жыл бұрын

easy to debunk. she was just powerful.

@pauladee6937

Жыл бұрын

Rhiannon the Goddess!! There's a bot in here with a blanket Its name.. We know His- story is being perpetuated by insecure men

@blanketparty5259

Жыл бұрын

@@pauladee6937 no. The most likely warrior women were the Amazon's. A woman if absolutely needed on the battlefield would not be in hand to hand combat. They'd likely be highly mobile, on horseback, and very good with bows. This would make sense and there's is more evidence for this than so calle shield maidens. Woman are just not physically capable to oppose men on the battlefield. It just makes no sense.

@rhiannonfugatt3269

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@@blanketparty5259 This is actually not true. Looking back on what Caesar wrote about the Celtic warriors and how the women were even more fierce and scarier than the men as an example. It happened in other Pagan cultures so I don't see any reason why that is limited. Christian men wrote most the history, eddas, sagas and downplayed everything about anything women did, or they twisted the truth depicting them of being evil.

@blanketparty5259

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@@rhiannonfugatt3269 You're living in a paranoid fantasy land. Both the archeological and wrttien evidence we have shows everyting counter to your "belief". Also Please quote anywhere that julius ceasar says women were on the front lines fighting. If it did ever happen it was incredibly rare and this makes sense. The average woman doesnt stand a chance in hell against men on the battlefield. Look at any modern sport today. Thats also why we dont let men and women fight in combat sports, its just silly. This is whats happening in your brain. Its not the christisans that are out to get women. its that modernism has completely removed you from biological realities. Youve watched too many movies, and consumed too much media that tells you that women are just as good as men on average at fighting. This just simply isnt true. Can women be ferocious ? yes , can they fight ? sure. But make an army of woman fight an army of men and I know where to place my bet.

No shield maidens, but without the women you'd likely be naked and hungry more often. We all serve a purpose.

So, you are saying that Viking women were basically worthless as far as protecting themselves and depended on men to protect them. So, they were nothing special. They popped out kids, took care of the kids they popped out and stayed in the kitchen cooking. The basic keep 'em barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen where they belong. So, the examples you gave where the women were sent away to protect them when men were fighting, I presume the women who lost husbands looked around and grabbed the first guy who looked like he was strong enough to protect her. So, there was no rape since the women would willingly give themselves to whatever man would protect her. No need to rape them when they are lined up willing.

What are you talking about Thor??? We have the "historical documentation" of the Wonder Woman TV show, and the 2 movies about her! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now for the serious part. And please don't ask where they were found as I can't remember. There are actual grave excavations in which women were found with all their regalia and treasures from their years & battles. Those have to account for some. As far as the women going to battle with the men, it has been documented at the Battle of Stamford Bridge how only a certain amount, half I think, of Norse warriors went to battle. The remaining soldiers remained in camp with their women who came with them to tend to them while in camp. When they Norse retreated from the bridge, it is written that the surviving men and the women loaded up on the long ships, left England, and never came back again.

@pauladee6937

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Thank you.. Yes there are graves of Warrior Women.. Amazons around the World... SCHOLORS. AND Religion men with fragile egos hiding the facts.. The Scythians 300 Warrior Women's Graves.. The Women at. Birka Ship Who they found in like 1898 wouldn't admit until 2017 DNA..

An issue we've encountered when interpreting historical sources - such as graves - is that we often project existing cultural presets onto it. Graves that were once believed to have belonged to men have turned out to belong to women, but we believed they belonged to men simply for the reason that the body was buried with weapons. Cultural bias is definitely something that affects our understanding of finds, and that is something to be aware of regardless of what the final interpretation ends up being. I just think it's really hard for people to let go of stereotypes and assumptions of gender, because in our part of the world, gender and gender roles are extremely noticable.

This might be really obscure, but I'm wondering if you've come across anything about "trans-women" in the sources. (I've been trying to connect with my pre-Christian cultural and genetic roots on this topic, so far mostly by studying Greek and Semitic paganism.) I know a couple of Norse myths mention gender-bending antics among the gods (eg. Loki getting pregnant in the form of a mare, or Thor disguising himself as a bride), so the gender binary wasn't entirely rigid in their worldview, despite the common depiction of Norsemen as hyper-patriarchal. I came across the Old English word wǣpnwīfestre, glossed as "hermaphrodite" in the sources, but the word appears to be very neutrally descriptive to me. The components of the compound word simply signify a male (wǣpned = male, ie. "armed" with male genitals) person who makes her living (-estre, eg. bæcestre = "baker-woman") as a woman/wife (wīf). Would it be assuming too much to suppose that this word may have had an actual use in Anglo-Saxon culture, or could it simply have been some ecclesiastic inventing calques for obscure Latin words, to pass time in a monastary? I suppose it's impossible to know, if nothing more was recorded...

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Please tell me Viking women were tall, strong, beautiful and didn't take shit from anyone, even if we weren't being slaughtered in battle!

@threeofeight197

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Awe you already did this video... What DID they do. lol. I think maybe they were healers (battlefield medics) and would have been equipped with Armour and shields.

@blanketparty5259

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​@@threeofeight197 you can think what you want. doesnt make it true.

@blanketparty5259

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Of course they were, this can all be true without the fantasy that there were more than five women shoulder to shoulder in a shield wall. this is just utter nonsesnse.

@threeofeight197

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@@blanketparty5259 I know that they weren't fighting in battles. I want to know what they DID do. I know of some Roman accounts on what they thought of Viking women but I'd like to know more about what they were doing day to day, for battles, etc.

@threeofeight197

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@@blanketparty5259 I prefer to think true things that you very much. I also think its possible "shield maidens" were a group of women who would be in charge of protecting their town (along with older men etc} when the warriors were out raiding or in battle.

Get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich... And bring my shield when you bring it

My 2 favourite parts of Vikings are Valkyries and Skjaldmær

Second!!!

Shield maidens didn't exist.

Comparing any and all female combatants in history to monkeys with weapons. Wow. If that’s a joke, you’re the punchline, man. Be better.

Fact is these ancient civilizations don’t exist for a reason. Bad ideology? Acts of God, assimilation? We would do well to figure this out or we could find ourselves in another 100 years being but someone’s oral saga😂😂

Third, great video as usual brother, I wish that women were like that today. Now after they turn 30 they think it’s alright to get fat dumpy and lazy. Oh and give orders. Guess one thing hasn’t changed.

@zackistheman1155

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Not really relevant at all mate. Seems to be a you issue.

@malumusera

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What a stupid comment, talking based only from your bad experience.

@KelliePixieAshton

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Oh sucks to be them because you seem like a real catch 😅