Viewer Request - Reman Scimitar VS Jem'Hadar Battleship - Both Ways - Star Trek Starship Battles

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Today we have a request and it is to put the Reman Scimitar against the Colossal Prototype Jem'Hadar Battleship.
Will this be one ship too far for Shinzon?
In terms of Armaments the Jem'Hadar Battleship has far more weapon placments than even the Scimitar.
Played from both sides in Star Trek Bridge Commander Remastered.
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  • @s.patrickmarino7289
    @s.patrickmarino7289Ай бұрын

    "Several bad puns later." I loved that line.

  • @TrentonBennett
    @TrentonBennettАй бұрын

    Also the Scimitar has primary AND secondary shields....not to forget it can fire WHILE cloaked. I believe the Scimitar wiped the floor with Jem'Hadar battleships and cruisers. If the Scimitar in this game was EXACTLY how she was in Star Trek Nemesis there'd be no chance for any ship... That would have been a major plot twist if a Jem'Hadar Battleship showed up to help the Enterprise. I bet between the two and possible with Commander Denotra's two warbirds they would have destroyed the Scimitar. That was AWESOME seeing you blind firing and hitting the Scimitar. Never really seen you do that very much. This was a fun matchup.

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks Trent! Yes, if she was cloaked, it would have been a lot trickier. Amazing how it has shields whilst cloaked. 🖖

  • @Katvanished

    @Katvanished

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@RetroBadgerGaming if my memory serves me right, the game shuts down your shields anyway, and you have to restore power to them right? also probably the most frustrating thing about the scimitar is the fact that she's only mounting pulse disruptors, which are touchy in BC. and RE: hitting them while cloaked, that's exactly why KM has blindfire. have you ever tried KM multiplayer? it's quite fun, although the people I introduced to it weren't that interested

  • @retluoc
    @retluocАй бұрын

    Oh yes! This is why I requested this. Both ships are evenly matched (more or less). The Scimitar has such amazing regenerative shields... that's what gives it the edge. The Dominion ship has the firepower edge, but its maneuverability sucks 😆. That was so close when you were in the Dominion ship. The Founders would have been ashamed 🤣. If it didn't take about 10 minutes to prime, Shinzon should have used the Thaleron emitters. I suppose it would work on Jem'Hadar. They are organic. 😀

  • @tigerlilly4712

    @tigerlilly4712

    Ай бұрын

    Was my request too :)

  • @retluoc

    @retluoc

    Ай бұрын

    @@tigerlilly4712 Cool! Great minds think alike 😀

  • @MAZE4
    @MAZE4Ай бұрын

    The Jem Hadar battleship is huge, but not one single chair on it!

  • @sharonec5419

    @sharonec5419

    8 күн бұрын

    Or replicator lol.

  • @MAZE4

    @MAZE4

    7 күн бұрын

    @@sharonec5419 thank god, there peskey little buggers.

  • @kellyevans3254
    @kellyevans3254Ай бұрын

    If your mod allowed the scimitar to fire whole cloaked and gave you the secondary shields you could probably take on 3-5 jem-hadar battleships at once while sustaining minimal damage.

  • @stevelapierre4776
    @stevelapierre4776Ай бұрын

    😲Nice job with the Scimitar Admiral.. and hmm well forgot to cloak lol. Just the size of the Jem'Hadar ship in insane. gosh.. all those windows.. ouff. Well, the said in the Dominion war, the Remans were wicked warriors.. hmm. In this case, too bad could not open the wings of the Scimitar lol. just saying.. that would take out the Jem'Hadar... eeh.. Gosh that was a battle for sure.. jeepers.. Yes, I would say.. need a ship with teeth and stealth.. the Scimitar.. and it as all those Scorpions fighters too.. hmm both can launch. wow. nice battle Admiral!!!😊🖖

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Oooh, totally forgot about the Scorpion Fighters. Imagine if it could launch them. The Scimitar is an absolute Machine! If the Jem'Hadar battleship had the giant torpedo weapons though, it may have been a different matter 🖖

  • @stevelapierre4776

    @stevelapierre4776

    Ай бұрын

    @@RetroBadgerGaming Yes while you were playing I had a flash.. with the Scorpion fighters.. if other ships can launch , this would be amazing.. I forgot the Battleship giant torpedo.. hmm gosh.. !🖖

  • @jonbonda1917
    @jonbonda1917Ай бұрын

    When the ST: TNG Nemesis movie was released, it was rumored that the Scimitar is actually a Dominion Battleship that was captured by the Remans. It was then rebuilt to look like a Reman ship.

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I really like that theory. There are some serious similarities between the two! 🖖

  • @MRFESTA1991
    @MRFESTA1991Ай бұрын

    You have to remember he could fire when cloaked 😂

  • @UncommonKnowledge587
    @UncommonKnowledge587Ай бұрын

    Computer has the RBG cloaking technique, pretty spot on 🖖

  • @rarevhsuploads4995
    @rarevhsuploads4995Ай бұрын

    I’ve wanted to see this match up for ages. I always thought the Scimitar would have the edge but it would take some serious damage before taking down the Jem’Hadar battleship.

  • @user-eu8ki5is3r
    @user-eu8ki5is3rАй бұрын

    RB there is another factor you are missing about the weapons. Jem'Hadar like many species use beam weapons. A single short focused beam. The Scimitar uses cannon type weapons. Yes short single shot but rapid fire, if you look at the rate of fire, for every one shot of a beam weapon the Scimitar fires 4-6 shots from a single cannon, multiply that by say 5-7 cannons in a single volley. The effect may come down to roughly the same damage but it's down to durability, think of the old saying "a thousand stings can kill " I believe that this was Shinzons idea from the start. Shields are good but how long can they last before the short out from such a barage?

  • @davidprinzing8059

    @davidprinzing8059

    Ай бұрын

    In my mind, firing lots of individual burst shots probably does more cumulative damage to shields over time, similar to how pulse phasors work. Polaron beams were essentially leveraged because they can penetrate most conventional shields. Once the Federation (and other species) adapted their shields to block them, they probably aren't much more effective than your regular phasors.

  • @ShamelessMcBundy
    @ShamelessMcBundyАй бұрын

    The Scimitar just does not stop firing. That's amazing.

  • @michaeleaton222
    @michaeleaton222Ай бұрын

    Great matchup. Grudge match! I was thinking at the start the Dominion ship would be the overall contender. It does pretty much show how Shinzon, as he asserted to Picard, could have obliterated the Enterprise E if he had gone full force.

  • @argonunya1543
    @argonunya1543Ай бұрын

    Aww thanks so much RetroBadger!❤️👊🏻

  • @enterprise-h312
    @enterprise-h312Ай бұрын

    I was watching an older video of yours featuring the Scimitar where you asked whether it was the only ship of its class. In a novel the Scimitar was created by the Romulans to fight the Dominion and Shinzon destroyed all of the other, unfinished, ships. It certainly makes more sense to me than the Remans building it.

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    That's cool! Never knew this. Thanks for the info 🖖

  • @Forge17
    @Forge17Ай бұрын

    The battleship design really is gorgeous at that scale. The smaller variants don’t work as well

  • @deaks25
    @deaks2519 күн бұрын

    It's rare for the Scimitar to look small. Puts the scale of the Dominion Battleship into perspective!

  • @Skirne
    @SkirneАй бұрын

    That was a GREAT match-up,

  • @PREPFORIT
    @PREPFORITАй бұрын

    I luv these what-if battle scenarios.

  • @patryn36
    @patryn3629 күн бұрын

    The thing that made the scimitar so deadly was the battle cloak, it allowed for full weapon useage so the scimitar to play with immunity.

  • @tisFrancesfault
    @tisFrancesfaultАй бұрын

    The Scimitar, is peak balls to the wall, Praetor/Consul ordering (possibly while drunk) "I wanna a ship that can kick the sh*t out of 3-4 1st rate ships alone, with enhanced cloaking and a super weapon!" Engineer "but sir, it be massive and only a few could be built; they'd cost fortune an..." Praetor/Consul: "...Did I stutter?"

  • @tisFrancesfault

    @tisFrancesfault

    Ай бұрын

    Seriously though... Some dont like the Scimitar, but imo, its fantastic; and within the setting. Yes its very powerful, But its very big! first, the Fed have ran into a fair few were their ships are smaller and or less powerful (even the Galaxy classes). But its not a OP ship, a ship that's really more than a match for a galaxy class or 4 happens to be like, three - Four times the size of a Galaxy. And we didn't even see the fighters deployed!

  • @StephenPitter
    @StephenPitterАй бұрын

    This the fight I’ve always wanted to see

  • @Bu2Spike

    @Bu2Spike

    Ай бұрын

    Same here

  • @scottpasike
    @scottpasikeАй бұрын

    Not bad battle. Would love to see the Simitar vs Dominion fleet and Dominion Battleship vs Star Destroyer

  • @hunter7
    @hunter7Ай бұрын

    Nice battle for 2nd place behind the GRAND NAGUS!!!

  • @ThatMetalheadMan
    @ThatMetalheadManАй бұрын

    Nice,this is something I needed to see lol.

  • @sharonec5419
    @sharonec54198 күн бұрын

    That was a good battle that. The Schimitar defintely the better ship.

  • @jcrichichi
    @jcrichichiАй бұрын

    Considering you won each round with each ship, it does mean the CO makes all the difference when the ships are evenly matched. Personally I would give the edge to the scimitar due to her firepower and maneuverability.

  • @XHunter442
    @XHunter442Ай бұрын

    Ty for the video and LLAP Great video on both ends.. alot of weapons and shield! >.< Turn so slow lol

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks Mate 🖖

  • @brucebrannon7251
    @brucebrannon725128 күн бұрын

    I would also love to see the USS Vengeance against the scimitar

  • @77zarick
    @77zarickАй бұрын

    Shinzons ship i think has 27 torpedo bays if i remember the movie

  • @jirkasirka3949

    @jirkasirka3949

    Ай бұрын

    Yep. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGV20NuOcbHVeNI.html (tactical analysis)

  • @ts757arse
    @ts757arseАй бұрын

    Please modify an Enterprise E to fire androids. Every shot sounds like a different Picard impression. After a few of those, Shinzon the silly name will have no chance.

  • @deepdivedylan
    @deepdivedylanАй бұрын

    4:38 this version was supposed to launch Jem Hadar fighters, but it doesn't work. Must be a bug! 😾

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 The Jem'Hadar have a lot of bugs!

  • @dekorexpert
    @dekorexpertАй бұрын

    I was hoping for that battle

  • @scott3002
    @scott3002Ай бұрын

    It all went well on the Dominion ship until the critical power drain from the shields of the washing machine and microwave combination.

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tundatime
    @tundatime16 күн бұрын

    I think the scimitar is a lot more nimble than the Jem hadar. That is a definite edge, allowing you to dictate where you hit and get hit.

  • @JoseMoreira-vo8cu
    @JoseMoreira-vo8cuАй бұрын

    The HUMAN factor WINS!

  • @johngalt4657
    @johngalt4657Ай бұрын

    I want to see Borg cube vs. Doomsday machine.

  • @darrensmith6999
    @darrensmith6999Ай бұрын

    Fire up the Thaleron Radiation emitters !

  • @johngalt4657
    @johngalt4657Ай бұрын

    Great Matchup!!!😃👍💛

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks 🖖

  • @johngalt4657

    @johngalt4657

    Ай бұрын

    @@RetroBadgerGaming You should do Dominion Battlecruiser vs. Borg Cube. Or Doomsday Machine vs. Borg Cube. You should create Nomad!!! And put him up against different ships!😃👍💛

  • @johngalt4657

    @johngalt4657

    Ай бұрын

    @@RetroBadgerGaming Yup!🖖

  • @reubenmorris487
    @reubenmorris487Ай бұрын

    All these big ships have the same problem; their turn rate is too slow and their size makes it easy to focus on one shield facing. I know this isn't about the D'Deridex but same problem.

  • @scpguy1381
    @scpguy1381Ай бұрын

    put 2-3 Romulan Warbirds against a Dominion battleship

  • @forMacguyver
    @forMacguyverАй бұрын

    Like the bad guy vs bad guy vids.

  • @DojhromTRW
    @DojhromTRWАй бұрын

    OK, you boosted the weapons power on the Scimitar during the battle but not the Battleship. I think it can be extremely even. The true Scimitar can fire while cloaked, so without escorts the Dominion is toast.

  • @adcraziness1501
    @adcraziness150128 күн бұрын

    @6:50 Seems this would be the time to bring that "repair" subsystem online. Was that available to the player?

  • @dougsmith6262
    @dougsmith6262Ай бұрын

    The Scimitar is certainly no joke, but it made quicker work of the Dominion ship than I expected it to.

  • @PKPhoenix83

    @PKPhoenix83

    Ай бұрын

    The BC Dominion Battleship is way too weak.

  • @dougsmith6262

    @dougsmith6262

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@PKPhoenix83Yeah, I got the sense that it went down easier than it should have.

  • @Nicolas_Cage_Bees

    @Nicolas_Cage_Bees

    Ай бұрын

    @@PKPhoenix83 Yeah but this isn't just a vanilla one, it's from the Bridge Commander Remastered mod I think, which would have been rebalanced.

  • @PKPhoenix83

    @PKPhoenix83

    Ай бұрын

    @@Nicolas_Cage_Bees Just because someone says it's rebalanced doesn't make it so.

  • @Nicolas_Cage_Bees

    @Nicolas_Cage_Bees

    Ай бұрын

    @@PKPhoenix83 the point is that it's not just a base BC ship.

  • @MisterMarin
    @MisterMarinАй бұрын

    I want to hear those bad puns you skipped out. Thank you. 🙂

  • @Alyeska23
    @Alyeska23Ай бұрын

    Battleship fire rate seems too low. It should be able to fire multiple beams simultaneously. That thing is gigantic.

  • @ralfhtg1056
    @ralfhtg1056Ай бұрын

    The Scimitar has 27 torpedo launchers, not 21.

  • @SlabBulkhead166
    @SlabBulkhead166Ай бұрын

    Can you see how many Scimitars the Enterprise-F (the real one) can take on at once?

  • @dinodesantis2976
    @dinodesantis2976Ай бұрын

    what about the Star Trek version of BSG and the Reman Scimitar or Jem'Hadar battle ship or all three at once ??

  • @tonyhall555
    @tonyhall555Ай бұрын

    Should do x2 shinzon vs ds9 :) both versions of ds9

  • @sqequTheHunter
    @sqequTheHunterАй бұрын

    Chciałbym obejrzeć bitwe Voth vs federacja/dominium, może kiedyś nagrasz :)

  • @mogs23
    @mogs2328 күн бұрын

    Try them both ships against the borg and ori battel cruiser

  • @stever3832
    @stever3832Ай бұрын

    I think my request got lost :D

  • @martinjaser2725
    @martinjaser2725Ай бұрын

    Is there a reason why you haven't mentioned the Apollo class again?

  • @Boseeinsteinshake
    @BoseeinsteinshakeАй бұрын

    I noticed, the siege cannons of this Dominion Battleship never fired. Does this mod not have them? They might have been quite the asset!

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Sadly not 🖖

  • @Bu2Spike
    @Bu2SpikeАй бұрын

    I saw a video earlier that showed that the Jem-Hedar Battleship was bigger than the Enterprise 1701J. Does it look bigger on to you? Also have you tried putting the Enterprise 1701J against the Jem-Hedar Battleship? I'm pretty sure who will win but I'd still like to see it

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    WOW! Really? I think in Canon the J will definitely be bigger, I'll have to see if there is a version of the J in Remastered, if there is I'll definitely do the battle. The Jemhadar Battleship in Kobayshimaru is very underpowered.

  • @Bu2Spike

    @Bu2Spike

    Ай бұрын

    Awesome i can not wait to see it, i would think the J is alot bigger. ​@RetroBadgerGaming

  • @trazyntheinfinite9895
    @trazyntheinfinite9895Ай бұрын

    Bolt weapons do fixed damage. Beam weapons lose potency at range. Get closer.

  • @Jarsia
    @JarsiaАй бұрын

    I thought the battleship had these big siege cannons, or is that only in KM. Those were what I was betting would make the difference.

  • @DerDrecksack87

    @DerDrecksack87

    Ай бұрын

    Nah i dont think the mod version has the two polaron pulse canons, it seems to only have the beams & torps.

  • @Jarsia

    @Jarsia

    Ай бұрын

    @@DerDrecksack87 Yeah, I've seen them before, just don't know which version.

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I think the Kobayhasimaru version has them in. Unfortunately the Scimitar in Kobayashimaru can be defeated with a shuttle craft...

  • @davidread83
    @davidread83Ай бұрын

    They missed?! It’s broader than a barn! Is it a die roll?

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣 That's the last time I buy torpedoes from Quark 🖖

  • @robertbeidler3765
    @robertbeidler3765Ай бұрын

    Hey it was 52 disruptors 27 photon torpedoes not 21 torpedoes lol

  • @dwreckd1836
    @dwreckd1836Ай бұрын

    Where were the dominions large siege weapon cannons

  • @scpguy1381
    @scpguy1381Ай бұрын

    Haven’t you done this video before?

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Not with these versions of the ships. This is the latest currently under development Remastered Unofficial Expansion 🖖

  • @scpguy1381

    @scpguy1381

    Ай бұрын

    @@RetroBadgerGaming cool

  • @2000toinfinity
    @2000toinfinityАй бұрын

    Is there a graphics upgrade patch for this game?

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, bridge commander remastered vastly improves the graphics 🖖

  • @2000toinfinity

    @2000toinfinity

    Ай бұрын

    @@RetroBadgerGaming is what is shown in the video the remastered version or the regular version?

  • @cosmeticscameo8277
    @cosmeticscameo8277Ай бұрын

    so the scimitar is more superior both are superior to any starfleet ship. it's kind of scary that even during the DW era starfleet had no ship in their catalog to actually go toe to toe with these ships... even by picard era IM not sure the Enterprise_F (odyssey class) could take on these ship 1 v 1

  • @RetroBadgerGaming

    @RetroBadgerGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Indeed! The Enterprise F is no match for these ships. The Federation lost a lot of ships during the Dominion War. I suppose starfleet focus was mainly on exploration. Of course the Borg changed things, but the other races put all their development into warships. 🖖

  • @chromemox3319
    @chromemox3319Ай бұрын

    The scimitar is post Dominion war right? Scimitar should be more advanced

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