This Vietnam vet became a cop and found himself fighting in Vietnam war in San Francisco - kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYqZxZOzl5m2ndI.html

@novkorova2774

Жыл бұрын

No one should fight wars of conquest, and no one should surrender in wars of defense.

@Mk18_40mm

Жыл бұрын

🤡

@ghost707

Жыл бұрын

ok but who authorized this Trauma/PTSD struggling vets don't sound like good candidates for law enforcement let alone any one with severe mental trauma especially that caused by war.

@BeJlumup

5 ай бұрын

​@@novkorova2774imperialism provokes wars, this is the only way it can preserve this vicious system. Period

@FutaCatto2

3 ай бұрын

You all talk about law enforcement but here I am knowing food was much affordable back then.

“You had WW2, you had Korea, and now you’ve got this, and after this you’re gonna go to the east.” Man, that guy knew what’s going on.

@Cam-gk9ms

4 жыл бұрын

No kidding, man. That part blew me away.

@wendyvinshlikapoltz8211

4 жыл бұрын

mike minier after he said that I paused it and immediately went to the comments to see if anyone els caught that

@chanceDdog2009

4 жыл бұрын

2:53

@chanceDdog2009

4 жыл бұрын

It's a new war. Virus is the new nukes

@chapiit08

4 жыл бұрын

That and what's being said by this guy starting @7:20

50 years ago I encountered a very old man reading the news paper. I asked him "what's new", he replied "nothing new just different names" .

@originalpatriot9310

3 жыл бұрын

@MMS Protocol ww1 was Austria-Hungary

@franktranks9445

3 жыл бұрын

@TINTIN GREAT ILLUMENATI SECRETHAND Bhi 247 YEAYEA Must you make this about modern politics?

@dumpygoodness4086

3 жыл бұрын

"THE FUTURE IS IDENTICAL TO THE PAST". Nature is a LOOP. (EX: the earth moves in a loop inside a bigger loop inside a bigger loop!) It does NOT move FORWARD. It fakes the movement forward! WE ALL KNOW IF NEXT DECEMBER WILL BE COLDER THAN NEXT JUNE,.... b/c the future is identical to the past! WE ALL KNOW HOW MANY TOES I HAVE AND HOW MANY TOES BABIES IN 2030 WILL HAVE....b/c the future is identical to the past. SOBERINGLY, ALL NATURE is A ROBOT. Perfectly NOT "natural". EX: no one has ever planted a PINE tree and an ELM grows. no two bears every fucked and gave birth to a giraffe. ALL OF NATURE IS LITERALLY PRE-programmed and "robotic" and utterly predictable. CAN ANY OF YOU PREDICT if my girlfriend nags me more each week? EVERYTHING is predictable and robotic, and only the human brain COULD outsmart this, like we've outsmarted nature before.

@dumpygoodness4086

3 жыл бұрын

@Beef Supreme I'll raise ya: BOYS TODAY see Killer KKKops KILL brown people in the streets EVERY DAY, and in their own homes etc! That's even WORSE than the war crimes the USSA did in Vietnam! THAT EVERYONE ISN'T UNITED AGAINST THE PENTAGON IS SICK!! They ADMIT they sent 58,000 American Boys TO DIE FOR ALL LIES AND FAKERY??? 58,000 families DESTROYED!!! (And those were the LUCKY soldiers!!!) (!!!) EVERYONE forgets that war is a billion times more illegal and sick than anyone thinks. EX: WHEN OUR BOYS WERE FIGHTING THESE FAKE WARS (even WW1 and 2 were FAKED by greedy capitalists and wall st).....THEIR WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS WERE LITERALLY BACK HOME.....fucking another man (out of boredom or loneliness)!!!! "IF YOU DON'T MURDER MURDERERS.....THEN YOU ARE A MURDERER"

@PritchDringle

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumpygoodness4086 Yo G, you onto some next level knowledge sh¡t right there foreal foreal

"A lot those people liked that we were there. A lot of those people hated that we were there. A lot of those people felt that if you were an American you owed them something. We do owe them something, we owe them the right to live." This was the exact same sentiment un Afghanistan.

@Goreuncle

Жыл бұрын

Yup, and still the lesson hasn't been learned.

@tannhauser5399

Жыл бұрын

@Kojo Smith - not just Afganistan... but also all those Coup d'Etat in South America , or Middle East done by US. And way before that as even stated by the Marine Major General Smedley Butler in his book/speech ("War is a Racket"), way, way back or even Eisenhower - when he was talking about military industial comples, in his final speech from 1961. There is completely nothing new here. All about politics, natural resources, geo-politics of a given region, and long term planning. Nothing more. With a lot of propaganda mixed with a basic level of "patriotism" on the top, and even military paying for your education. Amazing setup, and also a very effective, especially considering the education levels going down in the last 20+ years.

@philippusviridi6527

Жыл бұрын

Who sent our solders to die over a BS war you guessed it the DEMONCRATS. LBJ

@wildfire9280

Жыл бұрын

@@Goreuncle Oh it has, it’s just the same people in power who always knew but never cared. Except WW2 vets, they’re the exception.

@sterlingw3611

Жыл бұрын

if communism was really unstable, shouldn't it have collapsed without us starting wars?

The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in just **ONE** year, due in part to the mobility of the helicopter, and also the geographically confined nature of the war in Vietnam. Every year in Vietnam was like fighting 24 years in the Pacific in WWII. In fairness, a lot of WWII veterans had no idea about this massive difference when they chided returning Vietnam Vets for being ‘complainers’ and ‘soft.’ How could they know? This new manner of war would have been unimaginable to them, and would not align with their decades-earlier experience at all.

@armannstraughter3296

Жыл бұрын

Wow.

@VVayVVard

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting. I imagine Imperial Japan fighting against multiple opponents simultaneously would have been one factor for why American soldiers were targeted less often, as opposed to with the Vietnamese forces, which didn't have other opponents.

@remdy3839

Жыл бұрын

But the americans in Germany had alot more combat.

@christopherroberts2183

Жыл бұрын

@@remdy3839 no they didn't.

@christopherroberts2183

Жыл бұрын

This isnt true at all wtd are you on about?

“They say we’re fighting communism, yet Russia hasn’t lost a single man”

@prodbyFderrick

4 жыл бұрын

ANNO DOMINI Afghanistan

@havoc1482

4 жыл бұрын

@@prodbyFderrick This was from 1969 Russia wasn't in Afghanistan until a decade later

@prodbyFderrick

4 жыл бұрын

havoc1482 ur right

@MrTheHillfolk

4 жыл бұрын

And I'm guessing but I bet that fella was a war vet, so that kinda perked my ears.

@waltershumate5777

4 жыл бұрын

Russia lost advisers and Pilots in the war, they just didn't advertise it. At the same time the man's point is valid because they didn't lose 89,000 people either.

"We do owe them something. We owe them the right to live." That one hit me the most. Damn..

@MikeyJMJ

3 жыл бұрын

Overdramatic.

@kvkcoils8011

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@kayem3824

3 жыл бұрын

"Right to live"? By killing so many? Crazy boy.

@haggler

3 жыл бұрын

@@sj6404 dickhead twat conspiracy theorist

@billphil846

2 жыл бұрын

That way of thinking is the problem. You don’t owe anybody anything because you don’t control them in the first place.

My dad is a vietnam vet. Im 32. He is 74. He was 17 when he was drafted. He raised me since i was 1 year old. Best man i know

@davidculhane4388

Ай бұрын

Same I am 31 and my father 76. He enlisted at 17 into the Navy.

@deathbycake7637

8 күн бұрын

My dad was in Vietnam back 66/67 he was one of the soldiers exposed to Agent Orange (he was in the Army). I'm 53 and he'll be 78 in August so, he was 20/21 years old.

"We support the country, and yet, we have the least to say about it." Crazy how true this statement STILL is.

"Every year this country has to have a war." "Politicians get their cut of the defense contracts." "So many things around the war are fixed on the dollar." "Got hit by a piece of General Motors shrapnel. They're supposed to be making cars but they're making mortars." Wow! The more things change the more they remain the same.

@johnedwards4394

Жыл бұрын

Not only do our legislatures get cuts from defense contracts, they also owe favors to wealthy banks that funded their campaign budgets, so that, they declare war that compels us to borrow money from these banks to pay for the war. The longer the war lasts, the greater our debt to these banks. But hey, without the war, no defense contracts. Moreover, they will continue to stay in office.

@geoeconomics5629

Жыл бұрын

Wrong USA became No.1 by fighting other powerful countries empires And winning those battles

@danielbtwd

Жыл бұрын

They also made the .30 and. 50 browning machine gun.

@Water_meter_enthusiast

Жыл бұрын

Today we call it “Aerospace”.

@thomassenbart

Жыл бұрын

No, all of these tropes are idiocy and demonstrate how ignorant these folk were and similar peeps are today.

This footage is insanely important to preserve, my God.

@gregghorner9107

3 жыл бұрын

Biden has promised more military interventions.

@christianb8228

3 жыл бұрын

That guy telling how he had a piece of shrapnel in him and when they took it out it had GM on it...

@spunkyspaz

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregghorner9107 Pretty soon we are going to have a full-on communist movement right here.

@itsjustderik8522

3 жыл бұрын

Repent America the Lord is coming !!! Help them all Lord! We are in perilous times whether you think we are or not the Lord wins in the end and there's nothing you can do to stop him....praise God!!!!! and forgive these United States of America!!!

@crofoegbu6535

3 жыл бұрын

Facts! David Hoffman is a national treasure, for real

My dad was in Vietnam - he came back at 28 years old with a monster heroin addiction. Everyone said what a sweetheart he was before his war experience. It ruined his life.

@dcee6670

Жыл бұрын

Hope you heal…

@marcusjackman1487

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like war shouldn't be condoned or allowed.

@snowfrosty1

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusjackman1487 not condoned, allowed though.......sometimes it's necessary. Might even be good, debteably.

@somkeshav4143

11 ай бұрын

@@snowfrosty1right but the US didn’t go to Vietnam for good reason, the US faked the Gulf of Tonkin incident to have an excuse to go to war, it was just bullshit

@gamadahussein6663

10 ай бұрын

@@snowfrosty1Was Vietnam war necessary?

Having both served in Afghanistan and had honest dialogue about it years later, if I closed my eyes and listened to this audio, I wouldn’t be able to tell you which war it belonged to. Heartbreaking to me. I admire and relate to the Vietnam vets so much because there are so many parallels. They had it far worse, but we both fought in wars that made no sense. In another video I’ve heard it said “I don’t know how to explain the war to myself.” That’s what keeps me up at night. All that I did and gave, both physically and mentally….for what reason? At least my generation was welcomed home with warmth, and that was thanks to the Vietnam vets. I have more to say, but I’m crying over these men and their families, and it’s just a damn shame.

Man, it's the same conversations we've been having since 1969. Shit never changes.

@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother

3 жыл бұрын

And they say know your history or you'll be cursed too repeat it. History still repeats itself regardless.

@dumpygoodness4086

3 жыл бұрын

@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother ALL wars were solely about profit. That's not even a secret. It's vile that everyone plays dumb. You ONLY invade another nation for their land and resources and to steal their shit. Humans CANNOT learn, really.

@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumpygoodness4086 I think its more that we have been taught not too learn, look at our education systems. They arent exactly teaching the youth about the realities of war and the economic benefit of waging war. In a lot of places i see advertisements glorifying the army etc. People out there still think they are fighting for freedom. But i do agree with you overall, it's a pretty sad state of affairs.

@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother

3 жыл бұрын

@Vikarn RAJORA [11M2] lol true

@JG-id5vi

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong. These conversations are extremely civil even though they disagree. We are soarly lacking this kind of conversation. Now if you disagree over chocolate or vanilla cake your a racist,homophobic , misogynist. You need to lose your job your private information needs to be put out so you can get death threats and your property can be vandalized. And all your social media accounts need to be banned. Now bend the knee and apologize.

He was right when he said "The people of this country isn't fighting a Vietnam war. The government is fighting it." TRUE to this day.

@user-dh3fd8iq6m

Жыл бұрын

the people elect the government officials who start these wars... The voters are just as guilty as the politicians.

@bavarois25

Жыл бұрын

No, the majority of the people were in favor of the war. Then, when their country loses, the government is the culprit and they blame everything but themselves. People are a bunch of hypocrites.

@abeldelatorre1382

Жыл бұрын

I say, soldiers vote for which wars they fight, every voter who votes in favour has to serve and fucking take money out of politics, just give the parties a federal budget and forbid sponsors like holy shit is not that hard

@idwtgymn

Жыл бұрын

If that were true the people would elect a different government. You can't have free elections without being responsible for the outcome.

@liquidsnakex

Жыл бұрын

@@abeldelatorre1382 first part makes sense, second part not so much. If the only budget you’re allowed to have is federal, for a small party (or even just the one not in power right now), that means your political enemies directly deciding what your budget will be, and they’ll use that inch to take a mile. All it would achieve is making sure that no other party ever gets elected, other than whoever had legislative power at the time of the change.

My dad said the ride back was the most quiet plane ride in his life. Him and 3 other men in his platoon surrounded by all the others in body bags. God bless Veterans

@UberM3n

11 ай бұрын

Bless what? A war of invasion? Soldiers were either too fool or naive to know what they were getting into but after all these years whats the point of saying "god bless you" or "thank for your service". Only in america murder is glorified.

@dave-kr6sc

9 ай бұрын

Im a vet and I seriously think we're the dumbest people in the world when we go out to war and the smartest when we come back and that's why the government try and make us junkies and criminals before they start next war

@rahabredeemed1690

7 ай бұрын

Much love . My father was in Vietnam too. From NZ.

@nicolelynn8494

7 ай бұрын

@@rahabredeemed1690 My dad was from NZ too!

@Randive

6 ай бұрын

They are useful idiots who fight for bureaucrats.

That lady hit the nail on the head when she said that politicians make money out of war. Now referred to as the military industrial complex, there are plenty of politicians today who are receiving kickbacks from defence contractors.

"You had WWII... You had Korea, now you've got this..." "After this you're gunna go to the East". WOW... He was so right.

@danceswithtraffic8147

5 жыл бұрын

East?... From Vietnam?.. where's that then?...the Philippines?.. new Guinea?.. the US? The middle East is WEST of Vietnam, if that's what you're referring to

@drinkthekoolaidkids

5 жыл бұрын

You dont have to be the weatherman to know when its raining.

@crowharmon

5 жыл бұрын

Zach Derbas how the fuck did he know

@DennisTeti

5 жыл бұрын

Zach Derbas in the late 60s with the Shah and mid 70s the US government picked that up, and, essentially, we’ve never left.

@mickeydrago9401

5 жыл бұрын

496 thumbs up from people bad at geography...

It’s crazy that after all that’s happened, 60 years later, we are all still saying the same exact words and literally nothing has change a bit.

@rubyslippers103

Жыл бұрын

Bless your heart. Just imagine the poor people in the countries you and your solders invaded

@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742

Жыл бұрын

It's gotten worse

@bennyboy2023

Жыл бұрын

@@rubyslippers103 just imagine the people your religion has beheaded and bombed to the death in the name of a fake made up god who was apparently into children…. Pipe down and take a look in the mirror, fool

@cdog4322

Жыл бұрын

@@rubyslippers103 I completely agree with you and as I military member, I can say 90% of all service members are on the same page. The day of 9/11 every American wanted payback. Little did the whole planet know we were all dooped by the military industrial complex. Twenty years later after 9/11 no one in America really wants anything to do with the US military

@brandonthompson4340

Жыл бұрын

@@rubyslippers103 you can’t act like this one person controls all of our soldiers and strategies lmaoooo

The irony of that woman at 1:38 saying "they're ignorant" is astonishing

@cabwaylingo_

Жыл бұрын

yeah i know!! "they're ignorant" she says as she repeats every single lie the american propaganda machine made up for the war

@michaelscofield1970

Жыл бұрын

Epic american propaganda

@laqueenawilliams4762

Жыл бұрын

White woman

@privilegedchromosome

Жыл бұрын

@@laqueenawilliams4762 wow, that’s racist. White, black, Latino, Asian etc… who gives a damn. The woman is ignorant but to mention her race is disgusting.

@laqueenawilliams4762

Жыл бұрын

@@privilegedchromosome how dare you? Back then that was the mindset. White woman

The editing format used here is so different than modern documentaries. There’s no narrative being pushed, no narrator cutting in every 5 seconds.. just actual people sharing their honest thoughts, opinions, and experiences.

@farcherring9715

Ай бұрын

Less manipulation

"Pulled a piece of mortar shrapnel out of myself, and it said General Motors on it. They're supposed to be making cars, not mortars." Goddamn.

@driftcat7076

3 жыл бұрын

Someone should look into this

@Fausto410

3 жыл бұрын

Ive heard stories from Vets saying “ i got hit by a Chevy” 😂🇺🇸 tough bastards

@eelneck

3 жыл бұрын

General Mortars

@incontinentiabuttocks5271

2 жыл бұрын

IED using random shrapnel.

@donkrichie79

2 жыл бұрын

Did you keep it by any chance ?

50 YEARS LATER AND WE'RE STILL HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATIONS.

@treycaldwell4118

5 жыл бұрын

That's what I noticed too. We are still dealing with a lot of the same issues! Kinda discouraging actually...

@britishnationalist5800

5 жыл бұрын

50 year on, we're still in trouble. Put down your gun and hit him with a shovel..!!!

@fuckmondays1885

5 жыл бұрын

War is a business just like college is a business.

@mylife2022

4 жыл бұрын

When governments make so much money from selling weapons, there will never be peace on this earth

@thelast344

4 жыл бұрын

Einstein once said, the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again expecting different results.

The humble guy at 5:13. That's a guy I wouldn't want to let down ever. His opinion makes me think of happier, simpler times.

One thing I can say for sure as a Vietnam veteran is that I went there as an 18 year old serviceman and came out as an old man with no immediate future. Only my self determination pushed me to become a Chemist, a Marine Biologist and a College History Professor; without the needed help of the Veterans Administration. I can tell you now that war is not the answer to any conflict. Lives are priceless no matter from what country.Veterans should be in favor of peace; not conflict.

@lamars2486

5 ай бұрын

👍 I used to hear that from my WWII friends and korean war friends. Hope yer good these days.

@Itchy__

3 ай бұрын

I'm not a veteran, but I agree with you, invasion and conquest is rarely if ever justified. If the southern Vietnamese people really were under immediate threat it would've been better to send huminatarian aid, or hell, have them migrate to the US if you're so adamant about them being "saved".

' why do we have to be the policeman of the world ?" That the entrance to the rabbit hole brother.

@avalonjustin

5 жыл бұрын

So big American business could make money off it!

@mizzury54

5 жыл бұрын

That comment stood out to me also. And what Avalon Justin says, we have to "protect" American private business interests around the world.

@ebinecksdee9872

5 жыл бұрын

You can thank Woodrow Wilson and our entrance into WW1 for our government's need to be the police force of the world.

@blitzedpig1651

5 жыл бұрын

N.W.O.!

@USMCLP

5 жыл бұрын

@Hmm Yeah people fight and die for lies, but your reasonings are complete nonsense. Invading Iraq for oil is completely false. Vietnam wasn’t for anything like that either. Literally no objective evidence to back that up. It’s definitely IS a police thing. U.S. entered Vietnam off of a false perceived threat of communism, which was a huge mistake because they had no clear means of winning and were not prepared for the psychological battle. U.S. entered Iraq off of a lie about WMDs, and stayed there to try turn the country into a democracy; Rid of insurgency and dictatorship, which failed again and is why there’s still a war there. So yes, it’s definitely police and imperialistic ideologies that has made the country have terrible outcomes in regards to foreign policy. Of course money and greed have played parts, but it’s these ideologies that still propel the country’s military policies.

“What good is your vote if there’s going to be a war every ten years”. Wise words spoken with nothing but passion and anger..

@AbuHajarAlBugatti

Жыл бұрын

Every ten years? USA been in armed conflict every Ear from 1776-2022

@olred3870

Жыл бұрын

@@AbuHajarAlBugatti just quoting

@vivaldireal1741

Жыл бұрын

My god yes

@wtfvids3472

Жыл бұрын

its not good for anything of course. unless by some miracle americans choose someone not on T.V. and can get by the diebold machines a programmer has testified in court he was contracted to add backdoors to in order to choose whomever wanted.

27 years on this earth and these videos and interviews are gold. This helps us understand the current world.

56 years later whenever I visit the military cemetery in my wife's north Vietnam hometown I am reminded of the heavy price that young people pay for the unwillingness of powerful people to work hard enough to resolve issues through peaceful means.

What stands out to me is that they're having conversations and quite heated conversations. No one is being shouted down! Some people have an outrageous opinion about their current affairs! I see a difference today.

@quentindaniels7460

4 жыл бұрын

Not a single swear word was used. A different America, no doubt.

@alcinobenfica

4 жыл бұрын

And now you have gen z and some milenials who do nothing but talk over and use violence to get their point across

@TS-ev1bl

4 жыл бұрын

Back then it was common for people to say "I may not agree with what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." That seems to be a foreign concept now. Pre-Internet people weren't as brittle and conditioned by living in echo chambers back then, and there weren't as many outrage addicts as seems to be so common today. People could actually have conversations and listen to opposing POV's. As this and many other videos from those days show, people were also more articulate back then and could express themselves in complete, profanity-free sentences. I grew up in a large Midwestern metro area, not a small town by any means, and the parents of me and my friends were of the Great Depression/WW2 generation. I will second what another commenter here said. I never heard any of my friend's parents, even the WW2 veteran dads, use profanity around us even when we were teens, nor were they drama queens like people, even grown men, tend to be now. I later served in the military in the '70s and 80s, and aside from our drill instructors, causal profanity wasn't as common even in the military back then as is routinely heard in public today. Overall, the adults back then tended to keep calm and downplay things, which is the opposite of the "look at me!" and "we're all gonna die!" theatrics and victimology so common today. "Playing the victim" back then would make you the subject of ridicule. It isn't just my imagination, it's confirmed by this and many other online videos from that era. Just last night I was watching an online compilation of "as it happened" radio news reports of the April 1974 "Super Outbreak" of tornadoes in the Midwest, partly because I remember that day very well. The radio and TV reporters and people interviewed in those videos, in most cases live while a tornado was bearing down on them or soon after their home had been destroyed by a tornado, were amazingly calm, well-spoken, stoic, and underplayed the events, even the reporters. In general, people still had that "pick yourself up and carry on" attitude that had gotten so many through the tough times of the 1900 - 1960s period.

@imgladandrewgillumisnotmyk5787

4 жыл бұрын

@@alcinobenfica lol. So your telling me once you've reached a certain age you arnt capable of committing a felony

@deliveryguyrx

4 жыл бұрын

When people could argue and debate like MEN,and didn't have to resort to violence or pull out a gun or a knife.

The trees voted for the axe because it's handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.

@thelast344

4 жыл бұрын

Lemme guess, the axe's hidden agenda was to chop the trees down so everyone can see that the Earth is flat. I upvoted your comment btw, because it's true. But I had to bust your 🏐🏐 about being a flat earther.

@flatearthwatertownnewyork1141

4 жыл бұрын

We both flat earthers, I've just known for 3 years

@laurenklitsch3600

4 жыл бұрын

@@flatearthwatertownnewyork1141 flat earth lol thats the dumbest shit ever

@enterthedragon9427

4 жыл бұрын

@@flatearthwatertownnewyork1141 why do you throwaway all evidence of round earth just so you can throw this onesided stalemate?

@flatearthwatertownnewyork1141

4 жыл бұрын

Round globe Earth is CGI animation cartoons.

60 years later and still their points ring true today

These people sound much better informed and intelligent than the general public did during the Iraq invasion.

@possiblycrazy442

5 жыл бұрын

I think the intelligent and well-informed have been around since the beginning, and were around during the invasion too. But I'd venture to say the evening news didn't want to hear from them.

@futsk01

5 жыл бұрын

Isn't it spelled "Iran"? /s

@possiblycrazy442

5 жыл бұрын

@@futsk01 Like they said in the video: "Every 10 years." (Elapsed times may vary)

@ItsAllAboutGuitar

5 жыл бұрын

Well, they sound pretty fuckin' stupid.

@kuunami

5 жыл бұрын

0:46 This woman sounds like the average Fox News viewer today.

agree or disagree, they all respectfully heard each other out. nice.

@ron7447

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more friend. 🇺🇸

@jonprue

3 жыл бұрын

I would much rather live back then than now.

@powerbite92

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonprue BUT the people behind this documentary were already inserting their pro-left wing bias. The reason why things are so heated now is that the same people have had decades in the media demonising and subverting America. Now we see the fruit of their subversion. They captured every institution and so they no longer want to encourage civil, respectful conversation.

"Why do we have to be the policeman of the world?" - A lesson we seem to never learn.

@Aufsmaul92

Жыл бұрын

ITS Not wrong to BE worldpolice when Other governments dont know how to behave. But you shouldnt BE corrupt or exploidin. You should do good Things for the whole world.

@artemis3120

Жыл бұрын

We don't do it to be the world police. We do it because it secures our place as the #1 military and economic superpower. What do the top brass and capital owners care about morals or justice or human life, so long as they can keep increasing their bottom line?

@Aufsmaul92

Жыл бұрын

What would have Happend If Nobody played world Police when that Nazi Thing was going on 80 years ago

@artemis3120

Жыл бұрын

@@Aufsmaul92 Do you believe the US decided to participate in the war out of altruistic reasons? We stayed out as long as we possibly could, all the while profiting from selling weapons and materials (with infamous Fred Koch even making his fortune by refining oil for the Nazis and Stalin). It was only after we were attacked and western Europe in ruins that we decided to participate. We can't pretend the US participation in WW2 was done for humanitarian or altruistic purposes, and we shouldn't act as if we're redeemed by that one act in hundreds of atrocities we've committed.

@Aufsmaul92

Жыл бұрын

@@artemis3120 i absolutly agree. So under these circumstances the USA didnt involve as world Police instead IT involved as corrupt force. Still IT stopped the Terror( which IT supported before of course, i know).in that Case IT was wrong Intention but good consequences.so i guess the Term "world Police" for the Role of USA was Always wrong. But the US or every Other country which IS in Charge has every right to Play world Police(as Long IT IS Not corrupt or exploidin and has good intentions-which IT has Not of course-but If IT would have IT would have also the right to act as world police-that was Just what i ment-it IS No wrong beeing world Police then, when you really can call yourself "Police" and BE Role model yourself, then you also have every right to participate in wars to do good)

Now what people need to remember is that line "People have to remember the country isn't the government. The government wants to fight this war, the country doesn't" That rings true with so many things these days.

A professor once told our class, "History may not repeat itself, but it rhymes". Seeing the thoughts shared in this video sure as hell lends weight to that idea.

@trihard7442

5 жыл бұрын

??? How does what you said in quotations rhyme?

@edwardthach1849

5 жыл бұрын

@@trihard7442 Ever heard the phrase "those who don't learn their history are doomed to repeat it"? My professor's quote builds on that by saying it doesn't but repeat exactly but rather, it rhymes. This quote means that history often rhymes with itself because historical trends and movements often follow a pattern. I'm not saying the quote itself is a rhyme. Please read it again.

@mattdg1981

5 жыл бұрын

Proffesor is a smart man. He was quoting mark twain.

@rithvikmuthyalapati9754

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardthach1849 Your professor was quoting Mark Twain

@derekbryant1174

Жыл бұрын

Another good quote I read recently is, "history doesn't repeat itself, people do".

My Grandfather served in ww2 as a gunner on a Canadian battleship. My mom told me that when she asked about the war on only 2 occasions did he ever slightly mention it. She said that both times his eyes glazed over with tears, thousand yard stare and he would only mumble about nothing in particular and he'd snap out of it after 20 seconds. From those stories its obvious that he went through hell, and hell stayed with him in his mind.

@murrijuana2842

Жыл бұрын

All so the money men can make more money. War is a just another scam.

@_byzzer3228

Жыл бұрын

I wasn’t aware that the RCN fielded any battleships.

@yomamasthemailman3146

Жыл бұрын

@@_byzzer3228 Well my information is limited, he was Canadian and he was a gunner on a warship. Either that or he lied about what he really did.

@jamiepierson7772

Жыл бұрын

@@_byzzer3228 I’m sure it wasn’t a “battleship” by classification, but for the average person a large war ship with guns on it would be a battleship, purely because they don’t the different classifications of ships. Such a light cruisers which look like small battleships and they had plenty of guns. It seems the grandfather didn’t talk much about his service so the grandmother must’ve known he was on a ship with guns and called it a battleship. Probably just a case of innocent ignorance to ship classifications.

@_byzzer3228

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiepierson7772 Ah, yes you’re correct, I often forget that.

Watching American at that time talk about what it's like about the war in my country make me feel both of the countries truly lost many things in such brutal way.

@MackNcD

Жыл бұрын

We knew it was wrong and we fought for you. I’m so sorry we couldn’t reign the hawks in, it is not us as a people.

@BlackoutPatriot

10 ай бұрын

If the north stayed in the north it wouldnt have happened Keep the communism to yourself if you want it

@rondodson5736

4 ай бұрын

One of the saddest things for me is not only for fellow soldiers we lost, but for the enemy we killed. I some times think back and wonder what if someone i had killed had lived, then done something great for humanity. We will never know because i ended that chance for them. This is the one thing that makes me most sad.

@baileyayyy5085

3 ай бұрын

Bruh this shit been going on since the inception of the usa and its not headed in what I would call a positive direction. Maybe admitting it is us as a people is the only way we get a chance at changing it...?@@MackNcD

@sassycat6487

Ай бұрын

I can tell you as the child of a veteran it went on for a long time because the soldiers brought the war home.

I am a Russian, and these guys on the video are talking and acting totally similar to nowadays Russians during the war in Ukraine. Such a strange feeling.

Mark Twain said if voting made a difference they wouldn't let you do it.

@adavidbujanda

5 жыл бұрын

It's crazy to listen to this because we're still talking about the same thing it's just a different War. Socrates was right human beings stay the same the only thing that changes is technology.

@drinkthekoolaidkids

5 жыл бұрын

@@adavidbujanda it's not a different war , it's the same war that has always been since the dawn of man , all we do is chase it all over the planet , the best we can try to do is keep it out of our back yard ......... but it never dies

@Loosie_fur

5 жыл бұрын

There's nothing new under the sun. Same shit different day.

@Lanwarder

5 жыл бұрын

Not Available The truth is, when a "regular" person feels motivated enough to vote, and even better if they decide to get involved, they are part of a tendency, by that I mean that a lot of other people will be touched in the same way and get involved and/or vote in the same way. Saying that a vote does not make a difference is reductive to how powerful our collective will can be. I think that, considering how divided the U.S. Currently are, it's easy to see the difference between political parties.n

@NoFaceCobain

5 жыл бұрын

Mark Twain is a dead man

I love this. I am 66 now, and was old enough to remember when these conversations were going on. What is interesting is almost all of them knew it was a profit making scheme for many with no regard for human life, no matter what country they were from!

@tac6044

2 жыл бұрын

My father was a LRP in Veitnam. He once said none of them could really come up with a good reason for why they were there. He began to think of it as a deadly game and nothing more.

@MrAnperm

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how they all knew it was about money, before the internet

@KimberlyBarkdoll

2 жыл бұрын

My family was in Iraq twice, and these are verbatim the conversations we have.

@ThrilloVanHouten

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAnperm Before the internet, people simply communicated in person but it was all the same shit. You had your friends, you had people you didn't meet before, you had trolls, and you had random people spouting crazy crap. It was just all in real-life rather than virtually.

@rosesperfumelace

Жыл бұрын

@@ThrilloVanHouten you forgot one thing. People weren't politically correct back then. They spoke their mind.

“Brought up to never question authority” So sad how this was passed through generations and now look where that got us? Wow. 🤢

The people in this video demonstrate a much better grasp of reality than most of the people I hear today. Maybe they just had common sense, even though they didn’t all agree with each other. It was also refreshing to see that they could speak to one another with civility.

A woman speaks of politicians making money off defense spending... Before her time.

@TheCastedone

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing right

@frank-to7lu

5 жыл бұрын

You mean back in the time when women stayed home and did what they were told? When women obeyed their fathers and tried to marry a doctor instead of becoming one. When women lawyers, soldiers police officers were almost non existant. I remember back in the good ole 60s when lynching was popular in the south where the KKK tried but failed to keep heroic Black Americans from integrating the schools, lunch counters, swimming pools, and even public bathrooms. Back in the 60s when Black Americans were 11% of the population but 23% of the troops in Vietnam. The hate you exhibit was also on display in Charlottesville. America's future depends on continuing the progress it has made for all of its people while brushing the small minded haters like you into the dust bin of oblivian.

@MultiSkyman1

5 жыл бұрын

WOW she was spot on!

@mikedeich719

5 жыл бұрын

Truth is we started making money off of War during WW1 and WW2. And just kept doing it. Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex.

@laramonroe3363

4 жыл бұрын

War has always been good for business.

I just missed the draft. My older brother's best friend in high school was killed a month after his 18th birthday. His mother never got over it. Have a lot of friends who were in the Nam and not one of them is not fucked up from their experiences. God Bless them all.

@twintriode

5 жыл бұрын

...and all for what? Multiple lives ruined.

@andyginterblues2961

5 жыл бұрын

I just missed the draft, too. The last year of the draft lottery, my birthday came up third. I was a year too young to get drafted. By the time I turned eighteen, the war was over. I was born into a military family, dad was a WWII combat vet, (army infantry) wounded in Anzio, my younger brother enlisted, (also army infantry) and went to Egypt. I went to enlist in my twenties, and didn't get in, I have a heart murmur. I know people who lied about their age, enlisted, and went to Nam, some did several tours.

@andyginterblues2961

5 жыл бұрын

My dad had PTSD, back then it was called "shellshock".

@boofert.washington2499

5 жыл бұрын

I know a bunch that are productive members of society with no issues.

@cycologist7069

5 жыл бұрын

My older sister's best friend's uncle served onboard the USS Szlap (DDG-223) and while off the coast of Nam, someone in the the galley farted.

"I didn't get killed in a war" Literally survivors fallacy. Lmao

@robolinoschmidt8676

Жыл бұрын

Alive but traumatised for the rest of his life

The woman at 3:20 blew me away. It hurts that people knew this so clearly then, all it took was wisdom

I am a Vietnam combat veteran with disabilities and am lucky to make it home. This was not a war with goals to win - just prolong the war for companies to make money.

@issstari954

Жыл бұрын

War truly never changes I wish you luck and I hope for peace and the day corrupt polticans become a thing of the past.

@Tomeixx

Жыл бұрын

Glad you make it home. Iam fron Europ and ask me, why did you go? Were u in the Army bevor or do you volunteer? Greetings ✌🏻

@ChristopherGray00

Жыл бұрын

It's a commonly repeated myth that politicians make more money off of war, war ALWAYS costs far more than the money it will ever bring in, and bringing in money from war is just to compensate for the sheer loss of spending on military funds.

@issstari954

Жыл бұрын

@@ChristopherGray00 Wrong the politicians do make money off of war by the fact its expensive. You see politicians need a way to acess the funds of the state or people. So war is a great way to do this its to take the taxpayer dollars and loans and put them into contracts. They get kick backs threw various contracts arms contracts etc. In order for politicians to make money they need to spend money. There is literally no incentive for a politician to cut costs. Thats why consistently domestic debt has gone up. The previous costs to their political carriers for debt is now gone. War can also be a good thing for the state but currently its not since the state dosent reep any benefit but instead globalistic interests do. The current political elite care for neither the peoples intrests or the states but their own.

@ChristopherGray00

Жыл бұрын

@@issstari954 taxpayer money goes to whatever approved avenue it needs to go, it doesn't go to the politician and then to the military, not how it works.

6 years Marine Corps. 18 years US Army. A combat tour in Afghanistan. I watched this video and wept. My dad was a Marine who was spit on when he returned from overseas. I grew up with that anger. I learned nothing.

@colarguns

4 жыл бұрын

That's because you had what they call Patriotism, and were guided by so much (your parent, TV, friends, etc.) that serving your country was a good thing. I served as well, and thank you for your service sir. This is one reason they are (indoctrinating) our youth, and brainwashing them. In my heart, I believe that every student out of High School should at least serve one enlistment, and if they like their fields, and want to make it a career, then by all means they need to do so. It's the best experience they will ever have. However, We The People have failed in taming our government, while uncovering the corruption at the core, and holding those accountable. We have the let the "system" have way too much control over our lives, but that's been going on for many years, way before any of us were born. In the end, which we are on the doorsteps of, God will have the final say. We are the last Generation. God Bless and Semper Fidelis

@carriesee7209

4 жыл бұрын

Dan Marine no sir, thank you for your service, but this crap is ALL wrong. These wars are senseless. They are only about making the rich, richer. There’s zero reason for our boys to go through this horseshit. For our boys to get maimed, get mentally messed up, to die. Simply, we need to mind our own damn business. Our government is corrupt. But I DO NOT blame the boys who were patriotic. I applaud them. I blame the damn government. It truly pisses me off. Those bastards think our fathers, brothers, sons, friends are expendable. Fuck them

@adrianharris9106

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service brother

@offgrid6369

4 жыл бұрын

My dad return from Nam after being shot 3 times,His weight was 90 pounds from not being able to eat, also sick from malaria.out side of base in Georgia they we're throwing,bottles and cursing the returning wounded,This makes my skin crawl to this day.Would like to express my true feelings but wouldn't change anything

@gregc8483

4 жыл бұрын

@@offgrid6369That is horrible! Those kids were forced to go! They should have been welcomed back as survivors and given help! The bottles and rocks, should have been thrown at the politicians!

It's amazing how the sentiment, concerns and suspicions of the people back then almost perfectly mirror those of people today, yet nothing has changed.

Dave, this is incredible footage. We hear and see so many documentaries about the War and the counterculture from the viewpoint of the battles, and the major positions and events. To me, nothing no is more interesting however, than hearing the personal stories and viewpoints from the people themselves; primary source material. I was born in the 1990’s and lived through the time of 9/11 and the post-9/11 wars. Much of the conversations are the same that I hear and see here. Thanks for sharing.

Why does it feel so good to watch these? Maybe its from it being so real and authentic? It's just not like this anymore. Same problems and debates, but different people, different world. It blows my mind.

@OwlKnight32

5 жыл бұрын

Evan Perkoski I blame social media and smart phones

@adessachui7777

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think so. I think the Americans are fed up and ready to fight. Don't underestimate your fellow Americans.

@kennethyoung5155

5 жыл бұрын

@Science not religion yep, Donahue nailed it with what he said about Saddam Hussein: "Saddam IS a bastard, but he IS our bastard." That was a walk-off grand slam home run statement... Hussein was a U.S. puppet and a lot of the so-called WMDs were weapons the U.S. supplied Iraq with in their war against Iran, including biological and chemical. Many of these were rounded up later and were detonated in a sad episode of the Gulf War which happened to expose service members to released toxins, which the government denied for years.

@mikahina3909

5 жыл бұрын

@@adessachui7777 The american culture, media, government, education and other institutions has made most americans unintelligent. more so than other countries. ITs hard to fix something like that in one generation. And even more scary is confident stupid people that are ready to fight.

@sabrawilson9059

5 жыл бұрын

mmm i don’t think do i think it very similar

I miss the civility that used to be present when groups of people with various viewpoints had open discussions and disagreements with out personally attacking each other.

@DannySi

3 жыл бұрын

It's still like that. Reddit and Twitter are nothing like real life

@pottedcactus8924

3 жыл бұрын

@@DannySi no, not really. People today rip shreds off each other if the other person has a different opinion.

@ShlickMick

3 жыл бұрын

@@pottedcactus8924 I'd like to think it's a side effect of too much information and exposure to the internet. People are being brainwashed every day to believe all sorts of shit. Alt-right neo Nazi nationalists and diehard communists and incels and xenophobes. These aren't just political opinions anymore. The kind of people who actually subscribe to these ideas let the ideas become their entire personality. There's so many people battling each other over their opinions and they all want to pretend that they're open to dialectic discussion, but they aren't. Their political beliefs are so important to them that they couldn't possibly just let them be changed. Any attempt to change their opinion is an attack on them.

@pottedcactus8924

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShlickMick very true. Most people aren't very open to the opinions of others.

@JaKommenterar

3 жыл бұрын

Give it a rest. it still happens

Amazing to see this. This is amazing. A moment in time. How lucky are we to view this? ❤

it really isn't that long ago that this was recorded in the grand scheme of things, it always is the film quality that makes it all seem so much older, but seriously hearing what these people are saying now reminds me of how people are conversing about upcoming wars or economic collapse in possible times to come. David you truly are a blessing to the world, learning from the past is something we all need to understand. Its sad every decade that flys by everyone kind resets and have to try and come to a collective as to whats going on. The people here had to figure it all out with just their brains and questioning the media. Nowadays we have so much information at our disposal! USE IT!

My dad was 18 in 1968. He was drafted but severe eczema kept him from going. But even though he didn’t go to war he still can’t talk about that part of history. He can’t even listen to his favorite music of that time. He can’t hear it because it reminds him of his friends who never returned or worse, those who returned mentally and physically altered beyond recognition. Three years ago I interviewed him about his life story. He talked about everything in his youth in the ‘50s early ‘60s. But then there was this large gap until I was born in ‘72. I tried to ask about his teens but he just couldn’t talk. When I asked him about his favorite music all he mentioned was that he used to love The Doors but the music brings up too much pain. I suppose this isn’t the only war that’s impacted people in this way. War sucks.

@patiencecaso

2 жыл бұрын

5:27 that woman was the one that was actually right. "This is an insane thing we are doing" I hope she had a blessed life

@jeepfanatik1304

Жыл бұрын

I have been considering having a sit down with my father who served in Vietnam and wasn't there long before he was injured by a mine and luckilly made it back with just some shrapnel in his leg and torso. I can only imagine the stories he could probably tell me if i just asked. I keep his old dogtags in my office.

@americandiablo

Жыл бұрын

Your Dad jas good taste in music. The Doors are legendaey

@AverageJoeSchmidt

Жыл бұрын

@@jeepfanatik1304 Now's the time to ask. You'll likely learn things you never knew before.

@BonnChnd

Жыл бұрын

Do you think your dad was ashamed because he didn’t go? Kinda like survivors guilt?

1960’s: There’s a war every 10 years. 2020: “Looking around uncomfortably 19 years into our current war” Oh that’s terrible.

@lost4468yt

3 жыл бұрын

Not many deaths on the US side in the middle east. It has a much lower population density, and is generally extremely open. Add onto that how much technology has increased and it's a much more one sided. But it doesn't matter how one sided it is, the US can't win. You can't win a war on an ideology.

@hackusprime

3 жыл бұрын

I laughed too hard at this truth, sad laughed

@mbh4575

3 жыл бұрын

@@lost4468yt You can't win a war on ideology? Of course you can, it's called national resistance against occupying forces. Works almost every time, and is very motivating. The problem with the US's recent wars is that they have no sincere ideology, only profiteering and protecting Israel. If they wanted to spread democracy, they could start with their Gulf Arab allies.

@ac4185

2 жыл бұрын

You can't get new missiles if you don't use the ones you have.

@Irishmule169

2 жыл бұрын

@@slm3913 What do you have to say about Biden finally ending the Afghanistan conflict???

1:45 “Perhaps they would go communistic. Of course that would be their choice, but we’re trying to save them from it.” Some people can’t help but to want to be heroes where they’re not wanted.

@aimeeinkling

Жыл бұрын

Bless that woman's heart. She had no idea what she was really saying. Saving people from free will? From national sovereignty? She had definitely bought into the anti-communist propaganda and had a little dash of racism thrown in there for good measure.

@punitgupta5517

Жыл бұрын

Commie tankie lmao

@tonttu7979

Жыл бұрын

@@punitgupta5517 jingoist lib lmao

@szarvaskoppany

Жыл бұрын

@@tonttu7979 Actually both are right. Those who lived under communist regimes don't want it back ever, however back then it wasn't that clear and communism seemed like the better option than the corrupt, foreign-backed violently pro-Christian regime that was in South Vietnam.

@tonttu7979

Жыл бұрын

@@szarvaskoppany Every Vietnamese person ive come across still has great respect for Ho Chi Minh and the revolution, allthough in the recent decades Vietnam has had some free market reforms with mixed reception, some being for and some against them

This is one of the most interesting artifacts on Vietnam ive seen. Let alone the amazing audio and video quality camera from back in the day, but these folks are interesting to listen to.

Really amazing to see the soldiers, who actually faced this nightmare, have a totally different account from the civilians who casually wanted to just throw troops away for mindless platitudes.

@chickensoup9869

Жыл бұрын

Not mindless. You get profits when nations buy your mass murdering products.

@chickensoup9869

Жыл бұрын

@@bjf9304 which propaganda caused My Lai massacre and Abu Ghraib?

@chickensoup9869

Жыл бұрын

@@bjf9304 same propaganda that got people agreeing to inject their kids with experimental vaccine. I keep track of Henry Kissinger - because I do not blame the US but only specific people from the US - it seems he flew to see his fellow mass murderer Xi Jinping twice when the world was supposed to be in strict lockdown. My nation did our job, we convicted these war criminals of their crimes in our court but clearly in absentia, because we cannot afford to bring them to our trials. The Americans should do it, if they want to stop being tools of these psychopaths. Because it is not just our children they are raping, they prey on American children too.

@LBPFrost

Жыл бұрын

Actually a lot of civilians were anti war, don’t know why you’re just spewing nonsense

@rellik0098

Жыл бұрын

uhhhh what? there were literally thousands, if not millions, of civilians protesting against the war

“After this your gonna go to the East.” .......man this guy knew

@JarrodMannDrums

3 жыл бұрын

He nailed it

@paulbuck7356

2 жыл бұрын

That's what got me

@kimiantumblod7654

2 жыл бұрын

what does he mean "go to the East"?

@dirtearth

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimiantumblod7654 he meant China but people in this comments wanting to write more prophecy into it are probably wanting to think he meant Middle East.

@jamesgraham2192

2 жыл бұрын

@UCULqAbbbuMQtmzCSrtNW_mA china is west of vietnam

OH MY GOD!!!!!!! this is how i found your channel i remember now!!!!!! wow what awesome footage

David, thanks for showing us videos that, among other things, clearly remind us that history repeats itself. I remember these types of debates and they weren't always as calm as in this video. The same discussions could be going on today. We should remember to take a break from the vapid forms of distraction out there and, occasionally, think deeper about what is going on in the world, who our leaders are, what motivates them, and our own personal complicity in both the good and the bad.

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

Жыл бұрын

Phil. I thank you for supporting my efforts. David Hoffman filmmaker

First of all; jack has immaculate hair, second of all, it’s so interesting and heartbreaking to see these stories on yt. My uncle Tim went to nam, my other uncle Vince got lucky and went to Germany… Tim was never the same. Vince came back and became a successful cpa. Tim came back shell shocked, a walking skeleton (pow)…. War is hell. It ain’t glorious. It’s hell on earth

@gavin2715

Жыл бұрын

It's worse than hell. In hell nobody's innocent

@rondodson5736

4 ай бұрын

I had the John Wayne syndrome and enlisted and volunteered. When actually serving in combat i found it was nothing like John Wayne had portrayed in the movies.

one thing i love about this old footage is how vibrant and strong american regional accents still were at the time. because of modern media regional accents in the states are disappearing. i'm 50 and i still remember when people in different parts of the u.s. spoke noticeably different from each other i think it's a real shame that before long americans will all sound more or less the same.

@artshinn9679

5 жыл бұрын

Please go into more detail about your statement I'm intrigued but to stupid to understand.

@artshinn9679

5 жыл бұрын

How does modern Media play into effect?

@NoirL.A.

5 жыл бұрын

@@artshinn9679 the media being so gigantic and ubiquitous has a homogenizing effect on people and as a result regional accents are slowly disppearing from the u.s of a. even alot of people in other english speaking countries are beginning to take on aspects of a really boring generic american accent. not the end of the world but i think kind of sad.

@williamhenderson8371

5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant observation. Thank you for making me think in a way I hadn’t before. 👍🏻

@NoirL.A.

5 жыл бұрын

@@williamhenderson8371 welcome thou art.

Fathers, Do NOT let your sons fight another mans war. You did not bring them into this world for that.

@LittleMachine89

5 жыл бұрын

Well then who will protect us?............what protection will we have?......

@Tropicaya

5 жыл бұрын

This is why fathers are removed from home life. Many women brag about being strong and independent but don't realize that they are, by their absence, turning their children into slaves, their daughters into prostitutes, and so the cycle continues.

@cal2522

5 жыл бұрын

@@LittleMachine89 He said 'another man's war'... WW2=good, Vietnam=bad

@perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738

5 жыл бұрын

LittleMachine89 You mean who will protect YOU and the people YOU love? LOL I see how it is, so long as they’re drafting some man whose well-being you don’t value in the least you’re all in favor of this pointless decimation of life known as war. The absolute hypocrisy of it all is that you complain about fearing for your “safety” when no one’s being sent to die overseas yet you’d be the first one to burn your draft card if you were a young man in the 60’s. The only life you value is your own. Such a selfish and hypocritical attitude. Additionally, your OWN government’s decimation of American safety and freedom during wartime should concern you the most, so if anyone should feel unsafe it should be when there IS war, for whether or not we’re “winning” the government is fully permitted to strip its citizens of any of our so called “unalienable” rights especially if they serve to hinder the war effort. They reserve the right to: restrict our freedom of speech, remove our right to protest, and throw us into prison upon SUSPICION of a crime usually in relation to the war in addition to numerous other examples of the human rights violations the government is allowed to get away with during times of war. In the 50’s suspected communists were jailed despite most being innocent, and all Japanese Americans during WW2 were sent to prison camps in AMERICA, just like Hitler did during the holocaust, not due to any malicious actions or expressions of communist sentiment, but because they were merely suspected of communism or being a spy only due to one sole, unchangeable and uncontrollable aspect of themselves: their race. Have slanted eyes, black hair and yellow skin? Well, now you and your family can rot in America’s death camps just because the government doesn’t like people who share your physical traits! And guess what, not a single spy was found among them. ALL who died the awful deaths in those abominable camps were completely innocent and this was totally permitted and initiated by the U.S. government. Further more, war is in many aspects a poor man’s problem. Rich people initiate the wars but they don’t ever wanna fight them. During many wars including Vietnam, America’s elitist young males could get out of their draft by paying someone off, having connections to government officials, and even hiring someone to die for them (yes that was a thing, maybe just during the civil war and not as late as the 60’s though) etc. And in the unjust, discriminatory nature of war, those who were left to fight were the ones who had nothing to do with it. War is truly an astonishing abomination of human rights. It concerns me how much you’re in favor of innocent people dying in favor of your own self interest.

@dazedoracle9645

5 жыл бұрын

@@perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738 Shut the fuck up. You assume alot with your negative fuckery. You should try war. It might strengthen your weak soul.

2:55 “after that you’re gonna go to the east” man saw the future

It’s moments like these we need to not forget. History will repeat itself, it’s inevitable from a statistical stand point. The best thing we can do is REMEMBER what has happened to prevent what could happen again.

Sounds like they’re talking about modern times. Nothing has changed.

@dumpygoodness4086

3 жыл бұрын

NOTHING changes. Men and women today are STILL fighting over the same fake immature Power Struggles as 100,000 years ago! NATURE SUCKS! COVID SAVE US!!

@destubae3271

3 жыл бұрын

Just substitute some of the words with others and it's the exact same.

@mattwilliams5386

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly but so true

@anticommunistaction880

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumpygoodness4086 what a nihilist go back to your cave then . Fuck you covid savior .

@spunkyspaz

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty soon we are going to have a full-on communist movement here in the west.

My grandfather was a WWII vet who fought in Okinawa. He lost all trust in the government when he found out that Roosevelt let Pearl Harbor happen. He also hated the Red Cross because when he was severely wounded, he wanted to write home but the Red Cross wanted him to pay for the stationary.

@user-ot6kl9oj2g

5 жыл бұрын

missartist123 We are pretty sure that the Red Cross was also getting weapons to the moderate rebels in Syria, truth be told, since they were the only ones let in and out at times when they had cut a city or area of Aleppo off. NBD. somehow their supplies kept refreshing.

@cobraferrariwars

5 жыл бұрын

Read Stinnett's "Day of Deceit" which has the evidence proving U.S. advance knowledge of Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt wanted it to happen.

@BoostedPastime

5 жыл бұрын

My grandpa was at D Day and he hated the red Cross because they would charge for medical supplies

@lubu4u312

5 жыл бұрын

Radar "said so" so obviously rossevelt wanted world war 7 to happen just like the U.S/U.S.S.R computers gave multiple false-positives on in coming nuclear missiles. Technology has never ever once ever been questioned, ever. Never ever. Not once. Clearly an inside job. Also not starting amrageddon was an inside job, and this virus I just got? You better believe its an inside job. Im just your average CNN/Fox viewer. peach trunp

@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127

5 жыл бұрын

Fighting in Okinawa proves that he personally knew that Roosevelt let Pearl Harbour happen? Sorry but you aren't being logical, you also have this American exceptionalism idea in your head that no one can ever hurt you and that it always has to be a secret conspiracy where you let them hurt you. The US didn't let pearl harbour happen, in fact with current technology at the time using torpedo's at pearl harbour was not possible. The USA blatantly said many times that it can't be hit, the US stationed many ships at pearl harbour as the US thought that Japan may move on some of the pacific lands or on the Philippines, so the US wanted to have a force ready. Though what ended up happening is the Japanese simply put temporary wooden fins on the torpedo's, it enabled them to flatten their trajectory and not dive deep at all. The wooden finds broke off when they hit the water and then they simply drove in shallow waters into the US ships and blew them up. Sorry about this, you messed up. The US did ultimately on a realistic level enter WW2 as soon as they put the oil embargo on Japan and froze Japanese assets in the USA. The plan was more likely going to be to just storm the Japanese navy with the US fleet when Japan tried to move in on the Philippines. All in all though the world turned out alright, I feel bad for the 3 million dead Japanese civilians though and I also think a lot of those Germans cities that were burned down was a bit unnecessary. But when one country starts losing then it's enemies really want to seek revenge, even if that means mass killing civilians.

Always interesting to hear the fellowship discuss the truth about their own experience. Valuable footage. Best wishes Cheers

I would love to see these kinds of conversations and interviews of the public today, with everything that has gone on in the past few years. Unfortunately, that seems quite hard to come by.

1969 -intelligent, well reasoned, coherent , cogent arguments for why there is, and shouldn't be, war. 2019 -Nothing changes

@chrisspedling75

Жыл бұрын

Far less intelligent

@doughboyjr9418

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisspedling75 only a bigger sample size people have always been stubid

@kubrikansis7289

Жыл бұрын

The lady at 3:13 explained it perfectly

@chrisspedling75

Жыл бұрын

@@doughboyjr9418 ok... but it would still be worse now

That woman with the puffed hair, my God. The ones who are the most vocal on fighting wars are precisely those who don’t have to go there.

@MarcusKiner

Жыл бұрын

True, but was she wrong?

@calzabbath

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcusKiner yes

@MarcusKiner

Жыл бұрын

@@calzabbath about what?

@calzabbath

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcusKiner about everything

@phoenix21studios

Жыл бұрын

If communism doesn’t work, how does it spread.

I love this.. thank you for sharing this… makes me really feel like I’m not so alone

theres so many bits that just hit hard. but you really have to appreciate that these people are having open and honest conversations. it isnt like now where every issue is a line in the sand and brands you as part of a faction.

Damn man I did 15 yrs in the army and these people are talking just like we talk today .... nothing has changed man ... I'll be honest Iraq and Afghan fucked me up ... and for what ??? Really what was accomplished

@eileensmyth2505

5 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry. I know you felt you were doing the right thing at the time. Even though it didn't work out the way you hoped, I still thank you for your service and let's hope someday people will realize the futility of it all and end these wars.

@peteturner6165

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of people made a lot of money but did not serve in any of these wars. One in particular had a problem with Bone Spurs

@alexarias5717

5 жыл бұрын

We accomplished leaving these countries in shambles, leaving the mess for weak governments and militant groups to pick up the pieces and inadvertently create ISIS. God bless America!

@morry32

5 жыл бұрын

@Michael Shipman Does he have to get old to see it? I am 39 years old and I've seen my high school classmates fight and die in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. This shit never stops with them, its never enough to be rich and powerful when you have a tiny penis

@morry32

5 жыл бұрын

@John Johnson my brother- chill. This discussion isn't about Vietnam. It's about the war in Afghanistan and about 815's comment about his time served.

"Old men declare war but the young must fight and die"- Unknown

Another necessary document of history. God bless you, David.

Rip to all the young and of older age men that fought and never returned home

My dad was a Vietnam veteran and I had asked him about his experiences once. He never said a word about it. Years after I had my own experiences in both Afghanistan and Iraq, I told him I finally understood why he never said anything about his time in 'Nam. After his passing this February, I found his photo album and not only did I find he kept every letter I sent him from my posts both overseas and stateside, but I found photos of himself he took during his time overseas. I got to see a side of my father that I never knew existed that mirrored my own life in service. It haunts me, but I found a deep sense of relief and peace at the same time.

@utubedestroysmytime

Жыл бұрын

You reminded me of the song “the box” by randy Travis.

@youtubeistryingtocensorme

Жыл бұрын

Fake comment you just copied from one the other comments on this video

@JaxFPrime81

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubeistryingtocensorme Show me where else this was said. Asshole.

@hopinondeeznuts350

Жыл бұрын

No offense, your dad sounded like a deadbeat if he wouldn’t talk to you and it took him dying for you to get to know who he really was lol

@xZxOxVx

Жыл бұрын

Family of fascists and invaders

Last generation who thought government wouldn't lie to them .

@shrek19yearsago78

4 жыл бұрын

Abu Bardewa boomer generation

@FenderBenz

4 жыл бұрын

Still going on. Look at this "worlds ending greta thunberg shit".

@matthewronson5218

4 жыл бұрын

@@shrek19yearsago78 You apparently have no clue what the Boomer generation is or was. They were the ones primarily sent to Vietnam.

@shrek19yearsago78

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Ronson i know that

@Jamie-js3qw

4 жыл бұрын

yes

Welcome home Vietnam vets we respect you we love you and we are grateful for what you did. God bless you Vietnam vets

I wanted to join the army in college through ROTC. They would've paid for my education, and my medical school. I came home and told my father and he reamed me out for a week straight. He grew up watching his friends go and not return home, except in bags and coffins. He knew the truth, which was that we haven't fought a legitimate war since WW2. Not Vietnam, not Iraq, not Afghanistan, not any of them. The closest was Korea and even then we let our sense of invincibility get the better of us.

@northernbohemianrealist1412

Жыл бұрын

The fellows who fought in the Great War knew what it was all about. They were noisey in the thirties. Unfortunately, our Vietnam vets weren't so loud in the 2000s. Your father was a rare exception, and a PATRIOT.

@shridharbiju7370

Жыл бұрын

Even Korea wasn't legitimate. It was a war like that of Vietnam to kill the growth of communism and they bombed the infrastructure of Korea killing millions of Korea's. Read up on the Massacre of Juju island.

@rondodson5736

4 ай бұрын

i have said for years we have not had a valid war since WWII. None since WWII have been declared so we have no protection under the Geneva Convention. We could legally be treated as war criminals.

You guys really make me laugh with your comments. Maybe try serving others for a change. Volunteer, help little old ladies, something.

@jrg5315

Жыл бұрын

Damn I was born in March of ‘01

@rickbailey189

Жыл бұрын

@@jrg5315 A 9/11 year baby. Do you realize that many of the young men that went to Vietnam were your age? 21?

@korosuke1788

Жыл бұрын

Oh, so you're a murdered but on a better payrole? Man your dad failed as a father.

@cheoitochagon4798

Жыл бұрын

Honestly man how could you be that stupid

@markolson9913

Жыл бұрын

I'm curious as to what you would tell your son nowadays? Would you tell him the same thing about the marines that your dad told you about the army? Just wondering

5:28 someone shoulda been applauding her action in that situation. She was standing up in intimate situation with confidence. Very admirable.

@WontonDestruction

Жыл бұрын

Watching footage from this era always makes me realise how much more articulate and honest people used to be when talking about their opinion on things, even if it was controversial. Contrasts pretty harshly with our culture today.

@lucamne27

Жыл бұрын

@@WontonDestruction I don’t know if that’s true, but online the most outrageous statements get the most views so it looks that way

@WontonDestruction

Жыл бұрын

@@lucamne27 you must live a very boring life if that qualifies as controversial for you

@lucamne27

Жыл бұрын

@@WontonDestruction what is that personal attack? It doesn’t even make sense. I was trying to politely tell you that the belief that the past was better and that people were fundamentally different is an extremely common cognitive bias. In the present you are exposed to tons of bullshit everyday, shit that does not get remembered 30 years later. To believe that human discourse would fundamentally change in 50 years doesn’t make any sense.

@WontonDestruction

Жыл бұрын

@@lucamne27 mate if you think human discourse hasn't changed at all in the last 10 years post social media, let alone the last 50, then you're not paying attention

Very interesting video. Great post

Love how we have the same complaints today as we did back then. This video is eye opening!

It’s so weird seeing all the older folks agreeing with the youth. You don’t see that a lot today Every time a young guy said something I was waiting for an older one to disagree or try and argue but it was very civilized and everyone seemed to be on the same page regarding Vietnam

@NKdidit.24

Жыл бұрын

Because todays youth is ignorant and doesn't know how to have a conversation. They're all self entitled, "you owe me", "I'm offended" crybabies. Back then, an 18 year old was a grown man or a grown woman. Somewhere along the way, intelligence and common sense has died.

@Superbl0bby

Жыл бұрын

@@NKdidit.24 you just proved my point, all you’re doing is whining like a little bitch about ‘kids these days’

@fastfreeks

Жыл бұрын

People didn't buy into the propaganda like they do today.

@Superbl0bby

Жыл бұрын

@@fastfreeks they were probably saying that in the 60’s too

@fastfreeks

Жыл бұрын

@@Superbl0bby For sure. Probably goes back thousands of years. That's why the founders wanted a small gov and no standing army as well as the 2nd although the 2nd came later 1791 after people in government tried to disarm the newly formed American citizens. They knew the dangers of democracy, oligarchy, dictatorship or any form of government for that matter. They knew it's only a matter of time before the government is filled with corruption and tries to control every aspect of our lives, as government is just words on paper enforced by flawed people. That's why we have a constitution to put limits on government but that's just paper as some have said recently "it isn't absolute". They are right it's only as strong as the people are willing to uphold it.

I love debates; and the especially great ones are ALWAYS about hot topics with serious people. You can't get personally upset, you can't tear down the other's character, you can only say what you think, and at best, why you think it.

It’s interesting hearing these opinions especially “every ten years this country has to have a war” so true.

It took me YEARS to come to terms with the 3 killed and 4 wounded from my deployment to Afghanistan from 2012 to 2013. I have no idea how this dude is able to coherently speak about 57 killed and 140 wounded.

@Halesnaxlors

Жыл бұрын

Trauma and PTS is complicated. Some people can speak about it, but get sent into a vivid flashback panic attack when hearing fireworks, for example. They say everyone who is in combat will eventually get PTS. It's not a matter of resilience, or strength of character. Special forces have a higher percentage of PTS victims. If I recall correctly, the only group with higher percentage of PTS than special forces is victims of rape. Am important thing is that PTS can be helped by therapy, with a very very high success rate. Now, you as a veteran probably knows this, but I think it's important that people know this. If you suffer from PTS/PTSD there is help to be found. Stay safe and healthy!

@harry356

Жыл бұрын

Dissociation probably makes it "easy" for him. It was not accepted back in the day.

@AbuHajarAlBugatti

Жыл бұрын

10 upwards and it just becomes a number

@KittSpiken

Жыл бұрын

@@AbuHajarAlBugatti maybe if you don't know the people

@ba.chin.em.ba.tam.

Жыл бұрын

@@KittSpiken I don't see American care much about people surrounding them their whole life, left alone people they'd just met in War. Com' on, this is not novel or romance, dont have to lie, any honest person would know which type of personality individualism taught in this country has formed: NAR CISSISM, PSY CHO PATHY!!

"....your politicians get their cut too you know..." Great, timeless line! Thank you 💕

@MackNcD

Жыл бұрын

I like they guy that said they had a reason for WW2 and wars before that. Korea was the first war we fought interfering in other people’s affairs. We got lucky with that one, but it really had the same immoral ground that Vietnam, and every war after it had. We haven’t fought a moral war for 75 years now.

this medley of conversation is as essential to my understanding of the time as Ohio by CSNY, the plight of the Black Panthers, and the duality of X/King.

2:59. Every 10 years we have a war. That’s what I was told in basic training 1983

"The only ones that gain anything from our tax laws are the very wealthy or the very poor... we support the country, yet we have the least to say about it." Fascinating to see an old guy from the 60s utter the same words I have been saying my whole life. Nothing ever changes.

@pascualsmithvaldes9038

Жыл бұрын

underrated comment

@hereiam1041

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. It's so interesting and sad how we are still having these same conversations.

This hits hard as someone that deployed to Afghanistan. Makes me wonder about my grandkids fighting another conflict because of the government.

@benjaminfranklyn9292

Жыл бұрын

@Meta Ouroboros somehow and some way it is acceptable that Americans will be fighting wars and dying overseas, in the future. In Afghanistan they still have to ability to wage war. Then we take Afghans in as refugees just like Vietnam. This is going to backfire one day when we take in Russian refugees.

@bavarois25

Жыл бұрын

Nonsense. People in the US were vastly in favor of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then years later they complain about it because the US got nothing out of it. Before you blame the government, blame yourself and your own stupidity

@bennyboy2023

Жыл бұрын

Mhmm, with China or Russia no doubt

@captainchadapparelaccessor6556

Жыл бұрын

Vietnam and Afghanistan were not the same at all. Not even close.

@SPUTNIK6996

Жыл бұрын

You chose to go and fight in a shit war. Those who served in Vietnam didn’t have that luxury of choice.

"they are supposed to make cars" thanks David for sharing these perspectives with us.

“ WAR IS A RACKET !” Smedley D Butler, Maj.Gen USMC two time recipient of the CMH !