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Vietnam MiG Killer Reconciles with Former Enemy (ep. 175)

Robert Dosé was a #ww2 fighter #pilot who downed an Imperial Japanese #aircraft. Thirty years later, his son Curtis downed a Vietnamese #mig21, making them the only father-son duo to each achieve aerial victories in #combat.
"Dozo," as Curt is known, joins us this week to describe the May 10, 1972 engagement and reconciliation with his former enemy 40+ years later. A #topgun graduate and #testpilot, Dozo also performed much of the #aircraftcarrier suitability testing on the #f14tomcat.
00:00:50 Who is Robert Dosé?
00:13:06 Heading to Vietnam
00:23:05 Selected for TOPGUN
00:39:24 Blue Bandits
00:54:30 Test Pilot School
00:58:32 The F-14 Tomcat
01:12:09 Joining the Reserves
01:15:07 Reconciling with the Past
01:26:48 Listener Questions
01:32:03 Quickly Deployed
01:34:26 TOPGUN Curriculum
01:42:11 Callsign Story
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  • @GRiMFoX11
    @GRiMFoX1111 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love how you add accurate pictures and videos to the stories of your guest.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @danielcamacho4166

    @danielcamacho4166

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@FighterPilotPodcast me too don't stop

  • @stevenhill1287

    @stevenhill1287

    Ай бұрын

    Um, talking Navy Phantoms and showing an Air Force Phantom? That I'd like to see get cleaned up. Also, the Fleet Air Arm Torpedo bomber, there's plenty of relevant images of USN types accurate to the time period. However, your interviews are OUTSTANDING! I'm hanging on every word! 😎👍

  • @dutchbrotherfan1284
    @dutchbrotherfan128411 ай бұрын

    I was wanting to do a diorama of a NVA MIG-21 in close proximity to a navy F-4 Phantom in 1/72 scale.. this just may be the jump off point for that build

  • @c1ph3rpunk

    @c1ph3rpunk

    11 ай бұрын

    Except it wasn’t NVA.

  • @RCAvhstape

    @RCAvhstape

    11 ай бұрын

    Don't forget the Soviet markings.

  • @brianford8493
    @brianford849311 ай бұрын

    what a dude.....the meeting of the family of the chap he took down was deeply moving,

  • @bearowen5480
    @bearowen548011 ай бұрын

    Jello, another great biographical piece on an amazing Naval Aviator career and life. As a Marine aviator of similar vintage to Dozo, one thing that really stood out to me was how little time he had in the RAG before he was injected unceremoniously into a deployed squadron in the middle of very hot combat off Yankee Station with no air wing workups to get him better prepared. That is stunning to say the least! I can't even imagine such a bewildering baptism by fire. Bravo Zulu, Dozo! There was some confusion about shipboard landing aids and Dozo's dad's feat of making the first US (the Brits were first) carrier landing with the mirror glideslope system. To clarify and set the record straight: the mirror was curved horizontally and concentrated the orangish amber light of a row of lights into a single reflection of an orange dot known as the "meatball" due to its color. The reflected meatball was projected out to the pilot's eyes at a 3° angle to the flight deck. A row of green datum lights on each side of the meatball gave the pilot a reference to the perfect glide path for an engagement of the 3 wire if flown accurately by the pilot. It was not a Fresnel lens. The drawback of the system was that the mirror was hard mounted to the ship, so the pitching of the deck caused the visual glideslope to fluctuate up and down from the pilot's perspective, forcing him to mentally "average out" the ups and downs to fly a smooth and accurate pass. The Fresnel lens was develooed to eliminate this problem. The meatball projected by the lens was a directional beam that could be gyro-stabilized to eliminate the glideslope fluctuations created by a pitching deck. It had limits as to how much deck pitch it could compensate for, but it was a helluva lot better than the mirror. The key variable as always to safe landings aboard ship was and continues to be the LSO. Hopefully when you do a segment with an LSO on the podcast you will get a clearer explanation of these details than I as a humble Jarhead aviator just did!

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Bear. In fact i have an interview planned with a couple LSOs later this month.

  • @pendulum1997
    @pendulum199711 ай бұрын

    Incredible episode with an incredible guest. What a life! The story about the reconciliation was jaw dropping. Thank you Jello you make walking the dog that bit more interesting

  • @grrfy
    @grrfy11 ай бұрын

    A very moving story of reconcilliation.Thank You both,from the UK.

  • @joemd7775
    @joemd777511 ай бұрын

    This episode is one of the best! Thank you Jello and team. Also nice to hear about the Phantom/Crusader against the Convair Deltas.

  • @spencerb311
    @spencerb31111 ай бұрын

    Curt Dosé is a legend. I was first introduced to him when I was younger on one of my favorite episodes of history channels dogfights. If you search Dogfights Bloodiest Day you can find the story he tells.

  • @dks13827
    @dks138276 күн бұрын

    One of your best shows !! thank you. AZ

  • @dmutant2635
    @dmutant263511 ай бұрын

    Used to read about this father and son act in Tailhook. Looking forward to the interview.

  • @DarkOmenX
    @DarkOmenX11 ай бұрын

    Amazing , everything, specialy the reconciliation part . unbelivable .

  • @RCFlyBoy314
    @RCFlyBoy31411 ай бұрын

    FPP live! Finally got to catch one on release! Been listening for years and am finally caught up to all the episodes

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Enjoy!

  • @RCFlyBoy314

    @RCFlyBoy314

    11 ай бұрын

    Always do, Captain! Thank you! - SKW Mx

  • @rostamr4096
    @rostamr409611 ай бұрын

    What a gentle man and amazing story. Thanks for sharing. He looks like Clint Eastwood kinda

  • @TorToroPorco
    @TorToroPorco11 ай бұрын

    I let out a loud laugh when Robert made the turkey sounds, one of the funniest stories I’ve heard from an ex Tomcat pilot.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    😅

  • @BasedF-15Pilot
    @BasedF-15Pilot11 ай бұрын

    The rear facing F-4 RIO was hilarious. Imagine Soviet intel combing over all that film and trying to decide if this was American warmachine innovation or just trolling. Also the reconciliation story was interesting, and touching.

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin065411 ай бұрын

    Great piece. Thanks Jell-O and Dozo. I'm guessing Curt got his call sign from his "what missiles?" sortie on his nugget cruise.

  • @Whitesp44
    @Whitesp4410 ай бұрын

    One of my favorites. Wow. Just incredible

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    10 ай бұрын

    Agreed. hope for humanity.

  • @HabitualButtonPusher
    @HabitualButtonPusher11 ай бұрын

    So glad we are getting a record of all this. Sounds like you had a fabulous RIO with the eyes and SA of a hawk

  • @robmiles233
    @robmiles23311 ай бұрын

    Another outstanding episode.THANK YOU Jello and the whole BVR team. 10/10!

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    🙏🎉

  • @arnie24070127
    @arnie2407012711 ай бұрын

    What a legend

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks, and how about my guest?! 🤣

  • @arnie24070127

    @arnie24070127

    11 ай бұрын

    @@FighterPilotPodcast here's a questio/idea for you Jell-O who was the Pat McAfee ready room clown that was also superb at their craft. It's not Sunshine I know that. Every organization has those big personality dudes.

  • @wesleyjamison4442
    @wesleyjamison444211 ай бұрын

    First time here. What an interesting podcast. You seem to have the ability to bring out the best in the individual being interviewed. Growing up during the Vietnam war added a lot of interest. Thank you both for your service.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you 🙏

  • @troyledbetter6597
    @troyledbetter659710 ай бұрын

    Exceptional interview and such humble person.

  • @mikewysko2268
    @mikewysko226811 ай бұрын

    Fascinating interview. Thanks guys! 😎 😎

  • @singhson1061
    @singhson106111 ай бұрын

    Great guest and great episode Jell-O!

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @pinchus34
    @pinchus3411 ай бұрын

    This is exactly what we've come to expect from you...great add to a great podcast/vid-cast. Thanks!

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    🤩

  • @taproom113
    @taproom11311 ай бұрын

    Awesome show, Jell-O! BZ to you and Dozo. Thank you both for your service and sacrifices. PS - If he'd been flyin' a Crusader, he'da been an Ace! ;-) F-8's Forever ... Skal! ^v^

  • @Mtlmshr
    @Mtlmshr5 ай бұрын

    A4 is one of my all time favorite Aircraft!

  • @bbsot1
    @bbsot111 ай бұрын

    That was amazing. I remember him from the History Chanel's Dogfights series.What a badass and a great guy.

  • @stijnvandamme76
    @stijnvandamme7611 ай бұрын

    You gotta find Hawk Monroe for this podcast.. he was same era, also worked on the Tomcat program LSO boss on the first Tomcat cruise, Topgun CO, fought Hoser at AceAimval.. And CJ Heater Heatley,F4's, 4477th at Tonopah, Tomcats

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    10 ай бұрын

    Been working on Heater for awhile now. Elusive bugger...

  • @cmdrpepelluce5375
    @cmdrpepelluce53756 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this episode ❤

  • @ulvar51
    @ulvar5111 ай бұрын

    Thx for the great patreon-patch i got in my mail, love it!!! ... and thank you for a fantastic episode.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    You’re welcome x2! 😎

  • @Pwj579
    @Pwj57911 ай бұрын

    @26:50 F-4 vs F-8s furballs sounds awesome.

  • @johnferguson1455
    @johnferguson145510 ай бұрын

    Great interview, always enjoy you and your guests.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    10 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @steveyoung7669
    @steveyoung76692 ай бұрын

    Imagine those grandkids at 'show & tell'; My Grandfather AND Great Grandfather are MIG Killer fighter pilots...WOW.

  • @vspecnurr34
    @vspecnurr3410 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic episode

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I was blown away during the reconciliation story.

  • @spookbok
    @spookbok11 ай бұрын

    Top class. Thanks FPP!

  • @osmoregulatoryorgan
    @osmoregulatoryorgan9 ай бұрын

    I listen to these at 1.25 or 1.5 speed while I work so I can fit more episodes in during the day. Almost due for a re-listen of the F-4 Phantom episodes actually.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    9 ай бұрын

    Me too!

  • @steveyoung7669
    @steveyoung76692 ай бұрын

    I was at PAX at the same time Sir. NAS Weapons 72'-74'.

  • @mikegage4933
    @mikegage493311 ай бұрын

    Sorry I missed seeing you at RARA but was privileged to sit in the seat of the jet sporting the podcasts name!

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    10 ай бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @mohammadalzahrani7788
    @mohammadalzahrani77889 ай бұрын

    the best Podcast channel on youtube ty for ur efforts , i have an issue with auto transltion in this vieo since im not english speaker it help me to understand some words , thank you big love .

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    9 ай бұрын

    You’re welcome

  • @1jbunceiii
    @1jbunceiii11 ай бұрын

    I watched this guy on the history channel....he's awesome

  • @tonymanero5544
    @tonymanero554411 ай бұрын

    Jello, as a taxpayer, modern aircraft today cost $200 million; the B-1 is $1 billion each, the B-21 will cost $2 billion. The Ford cost $12 billion to bill. The Bonn Homme Richard will cost $2 billion to replace due to fire loss. These numbers require risk free management.

  • @tomwilson1006

    @tomwilson1006

    11 ай бұрын

    $2 billion to replace LHD 6 (BR)? You’re a little low there, they’d have to replace it with an LHA-class costing at least $4.1 billion according to the Navy in 2020.

  • @dogsbd

    @dogsbd

    7 ай бұрын

    I am much more concerned about where the vast majority of my tax dollars are spent with little or no oversight... and it's certainly not the defense department.

  • @christopherskuster6029
    @christopherskuster60299 ай бұрын

    Great one here Jell-O!

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    9 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @indy500tabasco8
    @indy500tabasco810 ай бұрын

    ❤❤great stories, great podcast❤❤

  • @Dra741
    @Dra74111 ай бұрын

    I love The Sidewinder missile because it is a gift from God,, it really paid off

  • @fredsalfa
    @fredsalfa9 ай бұрын

    Incredible story and an incredible life

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    9 ай бұрын

    #hopeforhumanity

  • @anthonymiller7992
    @anthonymiller799211 ай бұрын

    Awe! Getting ready to launch, can't wait to see it wiz by, 0 to 60 in 1 second Doing 5mph as he passes the crowd Sweet, awesome! Thanks for the upload! Great video man LMFAO

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you're laughing, I have no clue what's going on.

  • @anthonymiller7992

    @anthonymiller7992

    11 ай бұрын

    @@FighterPilotPodcast I was poking fun at the jet truck Lol

  • @wiesenbefeuchter
    @wiesenbefeuchter11 ай бұрын

    Were throttle slams possible with the F-4B/J ?

  • @bearowen5480

    @bearowen5480

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, there were some flameouts or rollbacks that resulted from rapid or jam reductions in throttle from mil/max power to idle. The problem lay in the fuel control unit. This was corrected by a design change to the unit, and in the F-4s I flew, there were no limitations on throttle inputs.

  • @bsc9399
    @bsc939911 ай бұрын

    Nice video and flying wish I would have made it

  • @Dra741
    @Dra74111 ай бұрын

    Wow Top Gun, you have to be for real to get in there

  • @maynardholmes8870
    @maynardholmes88706 ай бұрын

    Separated at birth, the guest and the late great Bobby Beathard those that are San Diego’s know what I’m talking about

  • @susanjones2701
    @susanjones270110 ай бұрын

    Avery good videoSir.

  • @raggen5039
    @raggen503911 ай бұрын

    He said he had no sidewinders left, but he still had four sparrows. Why couldn't he use the sparrows to engage them? Thanks for all the entertaining and informative content.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Sparrows require a radar lock and have a longer minimum range, making them less effective in a dogfight.

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal57089 ай бұрын

    1:05:00 onwards is a funny story about the F-14

  • @algeils9789
    @algeils978911 ай бұрын

    The history and stories were awesome 🫡🇺🇸

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Tekkx_Avery
    @Tekkx_Avery6 ай бұрын

    MIG-Killer? ILMAO! The "Phantom" wasn't intended for dogfight. It had not even a Gun.

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    6 ай бұрын

    True, and yet, many Phantoms achieved aerial victories.

  • @rostamr4096
    @rostamr409611 ай бұрын

    hit a savage? what does that mean?

  • @franzkoviakalak6981
    @franzkoviakalak698111 ай бұрын

    Cool now maybe we can take a page from this book and avoid the proxy war from turning to a very brief but apocalyptic WW3.

  • @genghisgalahad8465

    @genghisgalahad8465

    11 ай бұрын

    Not the same thing.

  • @Truth_Hurts528

    @Truth_Hurts528

    11 ай бұрын

    Never! To the last Ukrainian.....

  • @etma01
    @etma0111 ай бұрын

    legend

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks, and how 'bout that guest?! 🤣

  • @etma01

    @etma01

    11 ай бұрын

    @@FighterPilotPodcast Lols! You qualify...just! Thanks for another epic episode

  • @user-gf2co9tw1v
    @user-gf2co9tw1v11 ай бұрын

    It is incredible for me (former combat pilot) to see here in the USA how the Vietnamese pilots scored down MIGs, without any objective control, did you know what the MIG production was at that time in the 1970s in the URS, did you know that there were 16 socialist and other non-socialist countries that operated MIG, how are you going to say that they demolished so many migs, migs that did not exist,????

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    10 ай бұрын

    Are you suggesting our guest is lying?

  • @Dra741
    @Dra74111 ай бұрын

    There must be a bit of a fright when you first see your enemy combatants, shiny mig's

  • @decler-gt7nu
    @decler-gt7nu5 ай бұрын

    Bozo" is the pilot that actually took Tom Cruise up in a fighter jet for Top Gun ,,fun fact 😁

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    5 ай бұрын

    Ok, but why mention that here?

  • @MrLeewsee
    @MrLeewsee11 ай бұрын

    I am encouraged to see that Honor still trump politics.

  • @markcorrigan3930
    @markcorrigan39308 ай бұрын

    1:18:00

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    8 ай бұрын

    Hope for humanity.

  • @markcorrigan3930

    @markcorrigan3930

    8 ай бұрын

    @@FighterPilotPodcast Indeed.

  • @dutchholland6928
    @dutchholland692810 ай бұрын

    Wow, this one was one of the best interviews you’ve done Jell-O. Intense, gripping…. The reality of it all. Wow. I’m speechless. Great job Jell-O. -Harbs

  • @FighterPilotPodcast

    @FighterPilotPodcast

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Harbs! 🙏