Not a fan of the recipe personally think that it uses the wrong ingredients for a real vienna lager.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

That’s fine, but since you decided to comment that my recipe isn’t a “real” Vienna lager, would you mind sharing your recipe interpretation for a real Vienna lager?

@pilsplease7561

Жыл бұрын

@@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Sure I will give you what I consider to be a real vienna lager recipe, 2 row is not really something that in my mind should be in the beer. Heres my recipe which I developed 5-6 years ago and has won several competitions and awards. Recipe (5 gallon batch) 6 Pounds Vienna Malt 1 Pound 8 Ounces Pilsner Malt 12 Ounces Munich Malt 4 Ounces Melanoiden Malt 2.5 Ounces Acid malt 2.0 Ounces Carafa 3 Target abv is 4.5% Note I use a decoction mash and typically do it over an extended period but this is not necessary just a preference. Can just do a regular mash. 1 ounce of tettnang or similar german hop 60 minute boil 1 ounce of tettnang or similar hop 5 minute boil Target IBU of about 20-25 Use any german lager yeast, I like to use W34/70 Yeast. Ironically several years back I gave it to another youtuber, Tubedinoz Homebrew and he has a video doing the recipe on his channel if you wanted to have a look at it. I would appreciate receiving feedback from anyone who brews it, I like sharing my recipes this is my grandfather's favorite beer recipe.

@PetraKann

Жыл бұрын

@@pilsplease7561 So no caramel malt in the grain bill Some brewers argue that Vienna Malt is the only grain you need in the mash tun

@pilsplease7561

Жыл бұрын

@@PetraKann It is not needed nor does it give a desirable flavor to the beer. Caramel notes or candy notes are a flaw in vienna lagers.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

After drinking a keg and a half, I’ve come to the conclusion that the caramel notes are too much for this style. Detracts from the rest of the beer. I might revert to my original recipe next time.

Hello Larry from Southern Victoria, the bottom of mainland Australia, Autumn here and it is turning cold but I'm still brewing lagers under pressure like you do, Kegland here in Australia sell beer filters like that one you have and I filter all my lagers now, but I still sometimes get chill haze and I was using gelatin but I found something much better than gelatin and that's biofine, I put 30ml in the keg of cold beer, i like to mix it evenly into the top 4 inch of the beer so it then drops evenly to the bottom and biofine is much better and faster than gelatin, I'm also now using Lallemand NovaLager yeast, you can treat this yeast as a ale yeast and even in a fermenter without pressure it will come out clean, it is a medium flocculating yeast though so a beer filter comes in really handy for this yeast where as the Saflager W 34/70 tends to drop clear faster, as for flavor I'm finding it identical to W34/70 and Diamond, very clean and with summer coming up in the northern hemisphere you should have a crack at Novalager yeast. cheers 🍺🍺

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Good to know. Never used biofine or Novalager. What I like about filtering over fining agents is that I don't have to open my fermenter to the air. It's all closed system all the way to the keg. Novalager yeast is hard to find here. I can't find it in my area yet.

That looks like a damn good beer! Cheers Larry 🍻

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Very nice showing the evolution of the recipe design, that's quite valuable! I am a big fan of diamond lager. Cheers!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Steve.

Excellent

Looks wonderful Larry!

Great video

Looks great Larry!

I made a lot of Vienna beers over the years and I love the beer style

Love the channel!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video. I must brew this recipe. Looks delicious. Looking forward to watch your new fermenter review.

Good stuff Larry. Well done as we have come to expect from you brother. Cheers.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Harold!

Morebeer is awesome. Thats a great setup you have.

Sehr Klar !

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

lol!

Right on, Larry, looks killer!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It does look very tasty.

I love Vienna Lagers!!! I’ll check this recipe out for my next one, cheers Larry 🍻

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

It’d likely need the one beer style I’d choose to drink the rest of my life if I was only allowed one type of beer to drink.

I have never made a vienna lager, your video will help me a lot. cheers 🍻🍻🍻

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! If I had to choose only one beer style to drink, this would be it.

Sweet I can see Mt. Hood from my house. :-) True story. Great Video. Cheers !

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

That’s cool!

Awesome video Larry. Really really nicely produced 🍻 also, looks like you've created a beautiful beer 🤤🤤

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Bradley! I just may pour me one this afternoon. It’s a beautiful day for a lager.

@BlichmannEngineering

Жыл бұрын

I second that emotion! Looks amazing!

Tasted my own ale today. Pail 1, Viena 0.6, Carared 0.3. Helertau + Mandarina, M42 yeast. This is the best beer I have ever tasted.

Beautiful, Larry! I am brewing a hazy IPA / NEIPA, trying out Mash hopping and sous vide magnets in my pressure fermenter for delayed charge, also doing 1 oz citra at pitch as usual, trying to ramp up the nose, using yakima Valley Lupomax for a real nose bender!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Sounds great!

Brand new to brewing, in fact my first batch is on its diacetyl rest as I type this. My recipe is very similar to this but I will be brewing this lager. You make it look sooo good.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic! Welcome to the hobby. There are many ways to make this beer style. That is part of the fun.

@dasme8673

Жыл бұрын

@@BEERNBBQBYLARRY I watched lots of your videos before I dove in. Thanks for what you do.

Cool video! I gotta tell ya, 4 years ago I brewed your Belgian Wit recipe and altered it just a bit, and got 5th place in the Maine state homebrew competition. Love that beer! Cheers 🍻

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Very cool! Just imagine what could have happened if you didn’t change the recipe. LOL! JK That’s awesome!

@jaymckay4086

Жыл бұрын

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY I know right! 😆 the following year I barrel aged a stout and got 2nd, it all worked out. Great channel though and YES gotta love a Vienna lager. I make one with lighter malts and use cornmeal, makes a nice corona style beer. Cheers 🍻 👏

Enjoyed the Video.. it's making me thirsty..Hope your doing well..Cheers! 🍻

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too, Robert!

Great video. I add about 4% melanoidin because I love the malt flavor. Mash out helps head retention too! Omega OYL-107 Oktoberfest was a solid yeast option but I’ll try the Lallemand. Can’t wait for the X2 review.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Good idea on the melanoidin. I've always enjoyed beers with that malt in it. Perhaps next time I'll add in some melanoidin.

@pilsplease7561

Жыл бұрын

I do the same lol been doing it for years with my award winning vienna recipe

Great video as always Larry. You're the king. Wondering if your mashout helped you efficiency since you said you don't usually do it. Also very curious about hitting both enzyme Temps for my own brewing. Was afraid beta temp would cancel out alpha progress. Probably just me. Keep it up man!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Mashing out actually ensures all enzymes are deactivated so that would not be it. As for betas and alphas, it is the other way around. Mashing too hot will deactivate the beta amylase, but starting low and then ending higher will allow both types of enzymes to be maximized.

Wait - how many coolers, chillers, and buckets does 1 person need? 😄Just kidding of course. Excellent video! 👏Been watching you for many years (at least 6 years), and you just get better and better. 👍Cheers! 🍻

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

22+ years of brewing with 11 on KZread tends to accrue a bit of gear.

Larry! Love the videos. What are you using to print your homebrew labels? Thanks for your time!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

My color laser printer

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Another option would be to do what Short Circuited Brewer does: use a thermo shipping label printer. Only downside is that they are only black and white.

Looks great! Maybe I'll try that one day. I've had huge problems with Wyeast though, I've ordered 2308 3 times and all 3 times the yeast was dead! I've ordered White Labs many times before and they always work great but Wyeast never do. However I read that 2308 is the same strain as Diamond Lager so that's an easy sub to do. Dry yeast for the win!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

I’m done with Wyeast. All my local homebrew stores quit stocking it due to their price and drastic shipping increases. They’ve all switched to Omega Yeast being a local company and much cheaper.

I know that you and Clay from JaDeD are good friends. I just heard earlier today about his horrible case of pneumonia. I watch all of your videos and love it when you and Clay get together on camera. You two are a blast to watch together. Just wanted to reach out and let you know he's in a tremendous amount of prayers all over the global brewing community today. Everyone ❤'s Clay.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. That means a lot. I should probably post an other update about him soon. He’s slowly improving at least.

Thanks Larry. Great content as always! What is the purpose of the 2-row in the recipe? Vienna has enough diastatic power to convert itself (and then some) and going with that extra % of vienna would likely give a slightly richer flavor?

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

It's to reduce the Vienna malt flavor. 100% Vienna malt is too much Vienna malt IMO.

Looks delicious! No pressure ferment?

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

I pressure fermented only under slight pressure to test the X2 for pressure leaks (there were) as there was no need for it given that I was fermenting in the yeast’s optimal temperature range.

That beer looked really good...

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

8 ай бұрын

It was. Definitely a keeper recipe.

@ForgetU

8 ай бұрын

​@@BEERNBBQBYLARRY With all your new equipment, you're going to have to build a brew shed like those mostly in the UK.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

8 ай бұрын

@@ForgetU I may need to have a garage sale soon.

@ForgetU

8 ай бұрын

@@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Well at least a giveaway. haha

Awesome beer Larry!!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Northern Brewer Grain Scale. Only down side is that it turns off after a few minutes, so I have to turn it back on and either record the empty weight or re-tare every few minutes.

@johno8418

Жыл бұрын

@@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Hi Larry, This scale looks like a carbon copy of the Anvil scale I use. On the Anvil scale, you can turn off the "auto off" function. I won't go into the details here but if you go to the Anvil site they have the manual on the scale page . Check out page 3. Maybe this will work with your scale. Cheers.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

@@johno8418 thanks!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

@@johno8418 That worked! Thanks again.

Larry, at what pressure did you push the beer through the filter and how long did it take?

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have been more than 15 psi since that is the limit of the PRV on the fermenter. Probably less than a half hour for all ten gallons. It took more time to set up and tear down.

I want that grain mill!!! Did u install “ludacris” speed?

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Spaceballs. Love it.

Larry, did you pressure ferment this at all? Nice looking beer - Nothing like a malty lovely Vienna Lager. +1 vote for melanoiden additions - they are nice in this style, especially if you don't step mash. Cheers!

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

Only a few psi to keep positive pressure due to a slow leak.

Vienna lager is my favorite. I can’t do IPAs and hate that they are so prevalent. The only big brands I can find that resemble a Vienna lager are Shiner Bock and Victoria.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

11 ай бұрын

Modela Negra is a good variant of the style too. I’ve tired of IPAs as well.

Morebeer has 3 different 1 micron filters 90% 98% and 99.98% Which did you use? Great Videos. Thanks

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

98%

My favorite beers are fest beersI Not to steal from Vienna Lagers thunder by any means but have you tried brewing a Dunkel yet? You said you like Dunkel IIRC. thanks.

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

11 ай бұрын

Yes. A number of times by now. Another great style I love to drink in the Fall/winter. Got a video on that somewhere in my channel.

can you re use the cans?

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

No. They are disposable/recyclable.

Great video Larry - my only concern with the filter is the amount of O2 going into the keg; are you not worried about oxidisation mate?

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

There was no oxygen involved at all. Was all done in a closed system transfer.

@DrunkDelilahBrewery

Жыл бұрын

@@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Then the bubbles in the lines from the filter to the keg, where they CO2 then?

@BEERNBBQBYLARRY

Жыл бұрын

@@DrunkDelilahBrewery yes. I had already purged the filter of air before kegging and pushing it through with CO2.

@DrunkDelilahBrewery

Жыл бұрын

@@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Gotcha. Cheers.